#8 Barack Obama
January 19, 2008 by clander
Because white people are afraid that if they don’t like him that they will be called racist.
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Lol i just knew this thread would have a couple hundred comments. Obama is like moses, parting white people sea right down the middle.
Nahh, I’m white & I HATE hoebama.
But over all your list is really great and funny haha:)
White people also like Socialism and the Big Brother State.
it amazes ME that there are so many responses to this.
really, who cares?
When you write about B.O. you’re really writing about America. Some people feel passionate about the subject. Of Course, when you start talking about America lots of varied discussions open up. Why did you come to this site?
He’s still in his first year. I won’t lie; I voted for him. He has done some things I myself do not like, but at the same time, WE as a country voted him in. I told myself I wouldn’t join the military until we got rid of Bush. We got rid of Bush, and I am now in the military. At least Obama is trying to pull our troops out of IRAQ(notice IRAQ) like he said her would do(OUT OF IRAQ!). It can’t be done overnight though. We settled there 8 years ago, and it will take time to pull everyone out without a complete crisis.
Court,
Thank you for your service! You’re doing a fine thing.
You’ll find that life in the military under strong decisive commanders is much, much better than life under weak indecisive ones. That being said, I think you still have to support your Commander in Chief 100% no matter who he is.
I don’t know where you are stationed but perhaps at some point you will be able to talk with some of the people who had to live under Saddam. When I was in the military I got to meet some of the defectors from the U.S.S.R. and it was impactful. I leaned that Reagan was right, it was an evil empire, and that gave my service much more meaning. You may find that speaking with Iraqis about Saddam gives your service new meaning.
The Democrats hated Reagan in the 80’s and some of the speeches they gave about having to live with Communism and accepting a world divided between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. are almost humorous in retrospect. The Democrats were so intensely wrong. Reagan held strong and today we have a free Eastern Europe. All of this is being repeated, this time in Iraq. W, held strong and now we are seeing the U.S. leave Iraq just as W had planned years ago. We are leaving when the Iraqis are able to take over their own security. All Americans should be very proud.
Good luck and thank you again!
it really amuses me to see just how many people put so much blind faith into this do-nothing president of ours. especially mr. lil love in the heart. all you, and the rest of the Obama fanbase (because he’s more of a hollywood celebrity than a president), do is spew bullshit about the economy, thinking you’re making Obama look good. what is he DOING to fix the economy? raising taxes for health care, which seems like a fairytale it’s so farfetched. and I still have yet to meet anyone that’s been helped by the stimulus package we’ll all have to make up through taxes anyway (not that many narrow minded Obama lovers would realize this because they don’t bother to pay taxes) but the fact is, Obama is an empty suit that is too left wing to do anything about anything, like problems in the middle east and not even Iraq. when he starts to take some action, the proper action you’ll all turn on him because you’ll realize his “change” was just a bunch of bullshit. what so many of you fail to realize is that Obama wants to make change fueled by dreams and magical wishing dust. we need a president that isn’t all about talk, because that’s all we get from him : charisma.
What really amuses me is that people like you did not say nary a word for eight years with Bush in the white house, and now that Obama is dismantling that Bush mess, you are crying like a bitch over it.
Well cry us a river because it is not going to change a thing. Obama is in the white house and you will have to deal with it.
I can give you pointers on how to deal with it (I had 8 years of practice from the Bush years):
#1: leave the country often and for long periods.
#2: don’t watch the TV whenever he comes on
#3: don’t listen to the radio whenever he comes on
#4: if you still cannot get away, then just ‘give in’…..and join the ‘dark side’ Luke….
hahahahaha….
undo exactly what that Bush did?
hmmm….andrew, you must be a very wealthy person to ask what did Bush do…..only the wealthy would be so insulated from what is happening now to the middle and lower classes right now to ask this question…
I have to echo Andrew’s request, “Undue exactly what that Bush did?”
I understand the conditioned class warfare response, “The rich are against the poor and only the government can help us,” but do provide some details!
I take the view that the best way to help the poor IS to help the rich! Cut taxes on the rich and they will invest into the economy, which helps the poor. What seems to upset the modern Democrats is the gap between the rich and poor. If a poor man increases his annual income by 10k but a rich man increases his income by 20k, that’s a bad thing in the minds of B.O. supporters. A B.O. supporter would rather see both men increase their incomes by say 7k (3K to the government of course) …that way it’s, “Fair.”
Right now the U.S. has the second highest corporate tax rate of any nation. This tax makes all goods and services originating in the U.S. less competitive on the world market. Why not cut this tax? Doesn’t that sound like a simple thing to do? Make American companies more competitive and they will sell more, “Stuff” and employ more people to make the “Stuff” etc. B.O. and the Democrats are planning on spending trillions to “Stimulate” the economy, surly cutting the corporate tax makes sense in any cost/benefit analysis. Not to mention that cutting taxes is the only proven way of getting out of a ression. (Disclosure: I really don’t know what a trillion is …since normally “Trillion” is a number that is only used in astronomy)
From our elected Democrat’s point of view there is an important difference between spending money and cutting taxes. The difference is power. You see, when congress spends money IT gets to direct the money, when congress cuts taxes THE PEOPLE direct the money. Cutting taxes, from a congressional point of view, is passive, spending is active. You can’t direct money to vital projects like turtle crossings, ACORN, The Unions, etc, etc by cutting taxes. If you cut taxes then people …business people, individuals, families, decide on the best way to spend their money, not the government.
A wise man once said that when it comes to improving our lives, a thousand government bureaucrats don’t stand a chance against millions and millions of Americans waking up every morning intent on improving their own lives. Modern Democrats take just the opposite view, people don’t stand a chance improving their own lives, they need the government to do that for them.
The great excuse for not cutting taxes that our Democrats give is, “It would help the rich.” Cutting taxes would help all Americans but if people help themselves, what use would they have for a socialist government?
Think about who’s really helping and who’s really hurting the poor.
Eight years of the Bush Administration and Republican Congress legislation has left the legacy that we americans are struggling to get out from under at this time….
Obama inherited this mess. The American people BLAMED the Bush administration and Republicans…and before you say that it was not their fault totally, I will repeat myself more clearly so you will understand…
The american people BLAMED the Bush admin. and Republicans. I did not say that it was all their FAULT.
This is why republicans and conservatives are now on the fringes of the political conversation, and why you, paulie4, and others who think like you are not really being paid attention to.
You are still talking the same agenda that did not work in the past 8 years. What makes you think it will work now?
Hey Haha, suck a dick. Sincerely, Mr Put alil love in your heart.
Well, first off, whether Obama is a good President or not (a bit too early to tell), he looks great compared to George W. Bush. Torture has ceased. The Iraq War is being (slowly) withdrawn from. Guantanamo is being shut down (in a year). Diplomatic outreaches are being made. Greed is no longer completely running the country. Proposed tax increases (for the rich) would still be less than under Reagan (reviled by Republicans then, idealized as some sort of god-thing now, odd, I know). The economy is (slowly) on the rise. Health care is being extended (the over 100 million who would lose their current plans – which the Republicans scream about – are only those estimated to leave it for the new plan, as NO ONE will be forced out of their current coverage). These are things that are being properly handled, not perfectly (I would prefer slightly different action), but pretty well. There are things that I think he’s doing wrong, like the backing of baby-slaughter, the increase in the war in Afghanistan, the continuation of internment, and his lack of condemnation of Britain, China, Israel, et cetera, for human rights violation. He’s hardly just a celebrity, and is quite intelligent (something Bush/McCain lacked). He isn’t great, but he’s an improvement, what with an at least tangible respect for the Constitution, and a lack of corporate (Enron, Halliburton) and foreign (Saudi Arabia) interests.
I should do a study and try to determine if posts like yours occur more during a full moon. Your post is unique in that virtually every written thought does not correspond to the truth. Allow me to comment briefly on a few of your comments.
You wrote: “Torture has ceased”
Comment: How do you know? What you mean is B.O. “says” Torture has ceased. Wire taping has been increased under B.O., Prisoners at Gitmo can still be held without trials, etc. My guess is that you don’t know what torture really is but think the word sounds terrible and would like to attach it to someone.
You wrote: The Iraq War is being (slowly) withdrawn from.
Comment: Yes, exactly according to W’s plans. What is happening now has been in the works for years. W, not the Democrats in Congress, ensured our victory in Iraq. We now leave a constitutional democracy where people are free. B.O. resisted this every step of the way.
You wrote: Guantanamo is being shut down (in a year).
Comment: Why a year? If it’s such blight to humanity, why not right away? Turns out that people who have been released from Gitmo have already been recaptured on the battlefield trying to kill Americans. B.O. is running smack into the reality that W had to deal with. Gitmo is filled with some of the most evil people on earth. B.O.’s solution? Pay other countries to take Gitmo prisoners! That’s called rendition and B.O. railed against it when he was running for election.
You wrote: Greed is no longer completely running the country.
Comment: Oh yes it is, more then ever! Greed (Whatever that means) has simply moved from the privet sector to the public sector. Capitalism channels greed to benefit us all. Greed without capitalism is channeled into corruption.
You wrote: Proposed tax increases (for the rich)…
Comment: there is no such thing as “taxes for the rich.” Taxes on the rich are ALWAYS a tax on the poor. The rich employ people, the rich pay for goods and services, the rich make things happen. When the rich get taxed they stop employing, stop buying, stop making things happen. When the rich are taxed they go to Cape Cod instead of The Swiss Alps … the poor loose their jobs.
You wrote: The economy is (slowly) on the rise.
Comment: I wonder what numbers you are looking at? The average reason lasts nine months. The great depression was “great” because of government spending (The practice of Keynesian economics) exactly what B.O. is doing. Spending into the economy, does not work for a number of reasons and never has. Looks good on paper, moves power to the government, but doesn’t help the economy. Cutting taxes works but B.O. thinks that would be helping the rich.
You wrote: Health care is being extended
Comment: An understatement! Every business in the U.S. that is given an option of covering its people with a cheep gov plan or a more expensive privet plan will choose the gov plan. The Democrats know this and yet continue to say, “No one will loose their current plan.” The basic premise, that the way to decrease health care costs is to get the federal government involved, could only make since to a B.O. supporter, certainly not with anyone who knows anything about the federal government. Government health care will be just like government housing. Extraordinary expensive and something that no one really wants.
You wrote: he’s an improvement, what with an at least tangible respect for the Constitution.
Comment: Ah no. Much of what B.O. is doing..The taking over of privet business, forcing federal regulations on states and much more are almost certainly unconstitutional. FDR tried many of the same things; it took years for the Supreme Court to rule against FDR’s actions. It will be the same for B.O.
You wrote: He’s hardly just a celebrity, and is quite intelligent
Comment: I hear this a lot. So what? Millions of Americans are, “quite intelligent.” W, graduated from Yale and Harvard and was elected Governor twice, can’t we say that he was, “quite intelligent”? Does quite intelligent mean he’ll make a good President? What about character? What about believing in the specialness of America? What about having had accomplishments? What about having run a business or at least having worked in the privet sector? What about the relationships you’ve formed over the years?
B.O. is a socialist pure and simple. He believes that government, not the people, holds the best solutions to our problems and that an elite few should run the government. Every crisis is an opportunity to move power from the people and to the government so that the select few can, “Help” the people.
Limited space here you know. Pick any subject and we’ll continue.
I think the similarity you draw between B.O. and a celebrity is accurate. The answers I used to get concerning B.O.’s qualifications for President from his supporters were exactly like what you would expect from a horde of tennyboppers waiting for a rock concert to begin;
Why do you like XYX?
“He’s so cool!”
“He’s just so …like ….cool!”
“I really like him cus, um, he’s, um cool!”
Well, I’m exaggerating …but I’m not far off. I NEVER received a list of qualifications supporting B.O.’s unique qualifications to be President as I did when I had asked people why they were going to vote for Kerry, or Clinton or anyone else. I had a couple of people who said, “He’s 35!” And they were serious, I think.
While you portray B.O. as an empty suit, I like the analogy of B.O. being a blank canvas. It became clear to me early on that people were painting the picture of the man that they wanted to see. Although diminished somewhat, the phenomena continues today. I have a Liberal friend who voted for B.O. and one of the things that he used to go on about before the election was the fact that “W” was keeping people in Gitmo without trials. I mean he really used to get upset about this,
Well, of course recently B.O. stated that some prisoners at Gitmo would be held without trials. Not long ago I was with my Liberal friend (Most of my friends are Liberals by the way …I don’t know why …punishment for misdeeds in a past life?) I asked my friend how he felt about B.O.’s decision to keep prisoners without trials just like “W” had done? The response I got was amazing …you see, B.O. is so intelligent and so removed from ideology and so free to choose the best course of action no matter what that might be that keeping prisoners without trials was the correct thing to do! Things that make you go, “Huh?” squared. Pretty picture though.
Well, this illustrates the fun of having conversations with Liberals; you never know what is going to happen. It’s like watching the Three Stooges, just when you think you’re following the storyline Moe takes out a pipe wrench and hits curly over the head for no apparent reason … it’s strange and somehow amusing.
paulie4, your people had their chance for eight years, and look where it got us?
Stop re-hashing old, tried and failed policies. If they did not work when Bush was in office, why do you think they will work now?
Let it go and enjoy the ride. Your time is past and gone…..amen to that…
I’m not sure who you mean by, “My people”? Republicans? Conservatives? Extraordinarily handsome people? Who are my people?
If you mean, “Republicans,” well, we have had a Republican President but the congress has been controlled by Democrats. Congress, as you know, is tasked constitutionally with controlling the nation’s finances. I just mention that in passing.
If you mean, “Conservatives,” I’d have to say I disagree. W, was not a Conservative, he only looks like a Conservative if you place him next to a Socialist. Had he been a Conservative his approval numbers would have been much higher.
If you mean extraordinarily handsome people …well, I mean.
Next, what are these, “Failed policies” you refer to? Do tell. Under W we had the longest period of economic expansion since the 50’s. We had the lowest unemployment since the 50’s. W kept our country 100% safe after 9/11, hard to beat 100%. Because of W some 40 million people are now living in freedom out from under the thumb of brutal tyranny. He picked great Supreme Court Justices too … So let us know what the failed policies were if you don’t mind.
I have to tell you, I get very excited when people say things like, “God doesn’t exist” or “Those people can never be free” or “The politics of Conservatism are done with” In my life I’ve found that former atheists have the most amazing stories about God coming into there lives, people who seemed distend for tyranny rise up all the time and “The politics of Conservatism are done with” is exactly what they said when Ronald Reagan decided to run for president!
To believe in the politics of the left requires one to believe lies. The truth has a weight to it and eventually always makes a rather abrupt appearance.
Actually, God does not exist. Secularism is on the rise. Xtianity is slowly withering. It’s a sociallist religion anyway.
I almost always enjoy your comments because they are so conversational, they seem call out for additional discussion. I like that.
Being a Christian like I am, I appreciate your use of the more respectful and religious, “Xtianity” where the “X” stands for the cross …as you know.
“God does not exist” is quite a statement and one that is not often used. In science, God can neither be a question or an answer since science deals with the physical universe and God by definition is not bound by the physical universe. The correct scientific response to “Does God exist” might be something like; we have no empirical data to support the conclusion. Most scientists are officially agnostic, unless of course the have a relationship with God as about half say they do.
Secularism is on the rise in some areas of the world but in others, Africa and Asia for example, there is such an explosion of people becoming Christians that the churches (Some of the biggest in the world) can not hold the people. People are being asked to attend church every other Sunday so that others will be able to go. Of course the rise of anything …popular beliefs I mean, have nothing to do with the truth. The truth is not a matter of how popular something is or is not.
I’ve found that, “God does not exist” is more of an emotional response than anything else. So the question is; why do you feel that way? Why do you feel that God does not exist?
I have not had any experience to believe that there is a giant invisible guy who loves me. I have read much of the Bible and found it to depict a petty, jealous (actually that is his name), vengeful, bloodthirsty tyrant that goes against the morality that my loving, secular parents taught me. I am more attracted to Buddhism/Daoism (Taoism) because of the actual practice of compassion. I do not believe in the supernatural aspects of either religion. So I would describe myself as leaning that way.
Please do not lecture me about eternal damnation. If a God’s ego is so fragile that he needs to punish non-believers forever, then I have a hard time accepting that he is all that good to begin with. Also I will not make the 144,000 man cut because I have known the flesh of woman (Rev. 14:4).
Since this is a humor blog and not a political forum, I have decided to lighten up and revert to flippancy and irreverence.
G’day Luv
Dredd,
Well, what you’ve done is that you’ve decided on the attributes that your God should have and you’ve gone shopping for Him. You’ve read that God can be jealous and you think that jealousy is not a proper attribute for God so you reject Him and move on.
If God exists (And He does) than He exists with given attributes. Our Job would be to accept Him as He is. You’re asking God to form to your idea about what He should be.
When it comes to God I think the matter is very simple; if you want God in your life then He will show up, if not, then He won’t. I think it’s about that simple and I think that most other factors are trivial.
Wrong. But thanks for playing! Actually, I have no need for a god and therefore have not put much thought into my ideal god. We have invented so many over our existence as h. sapians that I do not need to take a “cafeteria” approach. I’m sure that there is one that would be a good match. Ooooo an epiphany! I think I will start a matchmaking site to match up people with their ideal deity.
I ,personally, have no fear of death so not going on forever is okay with me. Too much downtime anyway.
Everyone has a God, as a minimum they themselves become their own God (The most powerful force in their lives). The question is, are you a very good one?
If you say you have no need for God than I’m sure that’s true. I have no need of a cheeseburger …right now …but things change!
hmmm…..your logic seems to be lacking something paulie4….I’d say it is lacking….
lacking any semblance of reality..
Lowest unemployment in 50 years? Not. It was under Clinton, not Bush, that the unemployment rate was lowest in 50 years (but nice try with the revisionist view).
You may give credit to Bush for keeping the country safe since 9/11, but from who??……the terrorists were Saudi Arabians yet they are our allies? (what happened to “those who are not with us, stand against us” speech of Bush….were we not supposed to attack our enemies?….oh, i forgot, if you have oil, we americans tend to overlook the small issues like…..16 out of the 19 who attacked us on 9/11 were saudis……NONE of them were from Afghanistan or Iraq or Iran or Pakistan….ironic isn’t it?
Supreme court justices….great picks? The jury is still out on that one…
As for your original statement, I was referring to Republicans, conservatives, and general all round supporters of Bush Jr….your people….
You seem rather idiotic, judging a President by your friends that support him. Just because they’re not intelligent, doesn’t mean he isn’t. He vastly decreased unconstitutional activity, and that’s good, but he didn’t immediately completely stop it, and that’s not. Let us not forget the tyranny of the past administration. I consider Obama the 43rd President. Bush doesn’t count. He wasn’t elected. He took power as a dictator, violated the constitution as a dictator, abused human rights as a dictator, and ought to be tried and convicted as a dictator. I am not a liberal. I find the two party system despicable, disagree fundamentally with both, and honestly believe that the US is wrong, and, even, evil. But, with options so few, it’s the best shot we’ve got, so we always ought to improve it.
People like you are the reason idiots like Obama get elected.
Let’s briefly discuss your allegations.
You accused Bush of seizing power as a dictator. I’m assuming that you’re referring to the “hanging chads” incident in Florida? Winning by a narrow margin does not constitute “taking power as a dictator”. Winning because ballots that weren’t punched correctly, but fully communicated the voter’s intent, weren’t thrown out doesn’t count as taking power. What might constitute seizing power would be throwing out perfectly valid ballots because someone didn’t punch them just right. Being elected by people who had illegally registered to vote multiple times might be construed as taking power as a dictator. Winning by a narrow margin, by ballots that were counted because the voter’s intent was clear, does not constitute “taking power”.
In his eight years as President, Bush did not violate the Constitution to nearly the extent to which Barack Obama has violated it in his first six months in office. What happened to the right to keep and bear arms? According to the Constitution, “the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”. Period. End of story. But Barack Obama supports stringent gun control legislation, and he appoints Supreme Court justices who do so as well.
Drug violence in Mexico is not a good reason to start taking away my right to own a gun. People who use guns for violence haven’t acquired that gun legally anyway. Taking away the guns of law-abiding citizens emboldens criminals, who will get guns whether it’s legal or illegal. Last time I checked, they didn’t care that meth was illegal. Do you think they’re going to feel any differently about owning handguns? At least let me protect myself.
Bush did not abuse human rights as a dictator. You don’t even know what human rights abuse really are. If you lived in a country where your human rights were violated by a dictator, you would have been arrested for even writing something like that while Bush was in office. Keeping terrorists incarcerated does not count as abuse of human rights any more than keeping serial killers in prison violates human rights. Did you know that the United States spent more feeding one inmate at Guantanamo than it spent feeding one prison guard there? No joke.
What might be construed as a violation of human rights would be the government seizing control of independent corporations. Forcing CEOs to step down and banks to keep unused and unwanted TARP funds might count as a violation of my rights. Letting terrorists out of Guantanamo, free to plot more attacks against the US, definitely violates my rights.
Move to Canada. Please. Just leave. You can have free healthcare. You can have a government that protects the environment. You can have a prime minister who respects human rights and who was elected legitimately.
Just don’t come back when you need an MRI and have to wait with a herniated disc for nine months to get in. Don’t come back when you realize that all of the environmental protection legislation has resulted in food prices and housing prices double those in the US, and that between those and the high taxes you can only afford a tiny apartment and a ten-year-old car. Which, by the way, is probably rusting through because of the weather, and is taxed heavily because of the high emissions. You’re not allowed to move back when you realize that you can’t go to college because there are no government-sponsored scholarships. No, the government spent all that money saving the environment. You might be living in abject poverty, struggling to buy food and pay your taxes, but thank God, the penguins are still alive.
Well written! I hope you’ll write more.
The right to bare arms issue is a great one to illustrate how the policies of the modern Democrat’s restrict personal freedom by removing responsibility from the individual and resting it with government.
Once you tell a person that they can not own a gun what you are really saying is that responsibility for their personal safety is being transferred from them and given to the government. The individual looses the freedom to choose to defend themselves in the manner they see fit.
The next question is, “Can the government live up to the responsibility of defending each individual?” The obvious answer is, “Of course not.” “When seconds count the police will be there in minutes!” So modern Democrats advocate giving up responsibility for personal protection and resting that responsibility with the government … which can not possibly succeed in meeting the responsibility.
We are seeing this same push to relinquish freedom and responsibility to the government now in the health care debate. … To name just one area.
As a side note; it surprises me that women especially are not upset about the push of modern Democrats to disarm the population. since women are normally more fragile then men … especially in fist fights, knife fights and situations where one individual is attempting to strangle the life out of another individual …removing a woman’s option of owning a gun effectively regulates her to being at the mercy of men or anyone physically stronger than she is. Liberal policy while sold as helping the weak and poor almost always end up hurting them in the long run.
If the U.S. is evil, why don’t you go to a friendly, safe, free country.
Why don’t you wankers take your political views to a serious blog site? I come here to have a laugh not read your spew. I miss Katie’s crazed rants, they’re so much funnier than your tired, mostly uninformed dross. Thank you and fuck off in advance.
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