#8 Barack Obama
January 19, 2008 by clander
Because white people are afraid that if they don’t like him that they will be called racist.
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January 19, 2008 by clander
Because white people are afraid that if they don’t like him that they will be called racist.
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There is a giant ant at the door!
Where I live there are some T.V. ads running for a pest extermination service. The announcer in the add warns that bugs are trying to get into your house. The next scene pictures the inside of a nice home when a knock comes on the door. The home owner opens the door to find a giant ant, legs moving about, standing there with a pizza box. The ant says something like, “Here’s your pizza ma’am, can I put it inside?”
I thought about the add yesterday as I watched the spectacle of the health care bill make its way out of the Finance Committee, “Government control, er, I mean health care ma’am …can I put it in the Senate?”
The giant ant in the commercial doesn’t say, “Can I come in and infest your entire house?” He says, “Can I put the pizza inside?” Like our Democrats, the giant ant has a very public objective and a much more closely held privet objective.
No matter what bill ultimately passes and becomes law the government will have succeeded in getting their foot in the door. They will be free to infest the entire house. Years from now it will be a simple matter to quietly expand on whatever bill has passed and to add the items that the Democrats had to expel to get the original bill though.
The health care bill is not about heath care, it’s about power. Power is the reason that for the last nine months our Democrats have been in a frenzy to sell a product that the public does not want. If the Democrats really wanted to help the uninsured they would have adopted any one of a long list of common sense reforms …allow people to shop for health care across state lines ….do something about tort reform …allow people to carry their insurance from company to company, etc, etc.
The secret of Democratic control, in a word, is, “Dependency.” When people feel dependant upon government they vote for people who promise more government. “Dependency” is in the best interest of the Democratic Party.
I’m very, very proud of our Republicans who are standing strong against this government expansion into our lives. Our Republicans see the bigger picture and they are standing for American freedom. Our country was founded upon the idea of limited government and our Republicans recognize that when the government controls the population’s health care than the relationship between citizen and government has been perverted. God bless em!
Mr. paulie4 continues flapping off at the lips with blah blah blah blah blah. Then he has an epiphany!!
“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Dr. Elmer Fudd as quoted by paulie4, the quasi-intellectual
Paulie4 discovers that he can talk without flapping his lips! It is his legacy….“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
yucka yucka yucka
I’m still finding myself amused by B.O. and his capture of the Nobel Peace Prize! A workmate just came over to say that his father is going to receive the Heisman Trophy because he watched a football game! Now that was uncalled for!
Rich Lowry from National Review wrote a good bit today about the award called, “Obama Deserves the Nobel Prize.
The next two paragraphs are taken from Lowry’s piece and I’ll past in a link to the story below.
“Commentators have noted the “aspirational” nature of Obama’s prize. What, at bottom, is the aspiration? The same as with the Annan, Carter, and ElBaradei prizes: to tame America, to encourage it to accommodate its enemies, to make it a “normal” nation occupying a humble place in the multilateral tapestry of the world.”
“Given this context, Obama should be insulted, not “humbled,” by the prize. He has managed to convince the Nobel Committee that he shares its post-American view of the world. The apologies for his country, the embrace of the U.N., the ridiculous talk of global disarmament, the distance from Israel and kid gloves for Iran, the slaps at American hegemony — all are the stuff of shame-faced American weakness and retrenchment, uttered by the most powerful American on the planet.”
Full Story: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MzEzNmMyYmM2N2VmZjdjNjExZDViYjlmOTQ4MzRhZjk=
I agree. I couldn’t be more embarrassed. The majority of the media, not just the news, even sit coms and prime time drama’s are all extolling the virtues of ‘liberalism’. How did hillary put it, “it calls for a willing suspension of disbelief”.
Every tenet of their ideological religion flies in the face of common sense. Every single thing nobama stands for is like don’t believe your own eyes, believe in me.
You prove with each entry that you are indeed un-american, paulie4. You cannot support one of your own fellow americans because his political views clash with your pro-business, anti-middle class beliefs?
You’re the worst kind of anti-american. The american who would criticize another american for winning a PEACE prize while at the same time support the political beliefs of a former president who put us into TWO WARS and putting our country into enormous debt over it.
You are pitiful paulie4.
What a strange barrage of posts, Farkie! I am going to assume that you’re drunk.
If tomorrow comes and it turns out that you weren’t drunk than why don’t you pick a single subject from tonight’s onslaught and we’ll debate the little fellow. I’m sticking with the idea that you’re drunk though because I find it hard to believe that anyone could grow to adulthood (Perhaps fatal assumption) and be so completely factually vacant.
Typical sidestepping, eh paulie4? It is expected from people like you who have no answer to facts.
What do you do when you are left speechless and feeling ignorant in a debate? You accuse the other person of something that has no bearing on the debate; something like calling the other person drunk. If you can’t beat them with facts, do what Bush and his people practiced doing: start using negative name calling.
You are indeed pitiful paulie4. You’ve finally fallen from your ‘high road’ and landed into the cesspool of name calling.
It is time you take your third rate, rehashed opinions to another site, like say, Rush Limbaugh, or at least start doing the name calling with that ‘paulie4′s better half’ person. Now you two really have a lot in common.
Farkie, You’re going around in circles. You’re assertions are so numerous and unhinged that they are impossible to respond to.
In many of your posts you refer to the past eight years as blight on humanity that B.O. must now overcome. I’ve asked you before and I’ll ask you again to define yourself …what was it about the last eight years that you consider a failure? What is it that B.O. must now overcome with more government control?
Stick to a single subject, be specific and we’ll debate.
P.S. So your weren’t drunk?
“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Dr. Elmer Fudd as quoted by paulie4, the quasi-intellectual
the question should be asked: Are you still high on crack?
yucka yucka yucka
Blaming Obama for the economy is like blaming the new head coach of the Detroit Lions for the fact that the team sucks even though they didn’t win a game last year under their previous coach.
double digit unemployment, massive foreclosures, corrupt state/federal governments, depression looming come 2010—where are all the real jobs maubama has stated? please, anyone, has anyone got a real job from maubama?
I sincerely hope you are not blaming Obama for the economic crisis we are currently facing? Any one whois marginally intelligent is aware that the storms were already rising over the oceans when Bush was in office.
Your comments are welcomed, however, as it validifies your ignorance. How do you expect Obama, or anyone, for that matter to resolve a national economic calamity in just 9 short months; a calamity that took years to be forged?
It is frustrating when I come across people such yourself; people who have not practiced due diligence in their research before asserting their claims. A blatant disregard of truths and facts is irresponsible and harmful.
Before someone can offer a creditable opinion, one should familiarize themselves with current events (there are many sources in which a person can receive their news besides Fox!), exercise open-mindedness to all points of view, and possess basic knowledge of history and the events leading up to a situation. Of course most of us (present company included) are guilty of gravitating towards media sources that tend to share our point of view.
There are different hypothesis on what caused the economic oppression. While I do partly agree with those who have named unrestrained capitalism and the lack of government regulation as causes, I cannot help but wonder why those directly involved have not been held publically responsible?
Greedy and shortsighted financial groups sold mortgages along with delusions of granduer to consumers with unfavorable credit scores; consumers who, at the time, probably did not even qualify for an unsecured credit card. Jump to present day and you will find these are the people whose homes are foreclosing at an alarming rate.
But what about those who were in the center of the crises? Why haven’t the mortgage lenders, financial institutions, brokers, agents and the like being held accountable? Why is it I never read comments which give blame to its rightful owner?
I have to reflect on the notion that that those same people, at the heart of the financial meltdown are ourselves: the american people. We in some ways caused our own catastrophe by instituting reckless business practices but refuse to take any ownership for the problem. I believe a good parent would teach their child to observe their own behaviors and contemplate how personal actions could affect the outcome of certain situations. So why is it, as adults, whenever our lives become unmanageable or uncontrollable we digress into bewildered children again?
Im sorry how much money did Obama give out in the “Economic Stimulus” Come on lets call that what it really was, pay back for geting him elected. A stimulus that was supposed to stop unemployment, last i checked it was the highest it has been since the great depression. Not saying it is all his fault, but he hasn’t done a single thing to help, and has made his fair share of dumb mistakes
Well obviously you did not check the appropriate sources because the unemployment rates were higher in the 1980′s than they are currently. Most economist believe the stimulus money will not take effect until sometime in 2010. It’s mind boggling to me how people expect to see change in such a short time but the problem, itself, took years to formulate. And there have been improvements! Consumer spending is up and the nations largest banks posted higher than expected profits.
The Iraq war has cost us 1 trillion and they predict the long term health care cost for wounded vets will range between 350 to 700 billion. Last I checked, American support for the war was extremely low.
I’m sorry but who created this economic mess in the first place? The former administration if my memory serves me. Obama INHERITED this sorry state of affairs and you have the nerve to judge him on 9 months in office?
Try yapping about 8 YEARS of previous dumb mistakes before you yell about Obama’s.
The secret to extracting the country from the current economic mess is no secret at all, but it runs counter to B.O.’s ideological bent. The way to rapidly move the country forward is to cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes!
There are millions and millions of people who wake up every morning intent on EMPROVING THEIR OWN LIVES, taxation restricts their ability to do what they think will create the most personal benefit.
Government spending targets certain groups and areas in a very ham-handed, central government way. Cutting taxes lets every American immediately go to work. Government spending puts power in the hands of government, cutting taxes puts power in the hands of the people. The economic explosion that Reagan created and which lasted long after he left office was ignited by cutting taxes.
B.O. and many Democrats believe that cutting taxes, “Helps the rich” and so they won’t do it.
Republicans believe that the purpose of government is to provide an environment where people can help themselves. B.O. is resisting cutting taxes to push a left leaning agenda, bigger government, and more government control. I and my conservative brethren believe in cutting taxes, less government, more personal freedom and history has shown, explosive economic growth.
paulie4 says that the way to get us out of this economic mess is the following: “The way to rapidly move the country forward is to cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes!”
Hmmm…wasn’t this done in the Bush Administration for eight years? And what did it lead us to? Oh, paulie4 lives in part of the country that is not in recession.
Hmmmm….didn’t the Reagan AND Bush Sr. administration do the same thing for 12 years and where did it lead us in the early 1990s before Clinton was elected? Oh, paulie4 lived in part of the country that was not in a recession back then either.
Sorry paulie4, but neverneverland was foreclosed on when MJ passed away. Looks like your dream land of no taxes has been put up for auction.
I appreciate your well thought out comments.
I haven’t heard anyone blaming B.O. for the current economic problems in the U.S. but I will be the first in line to accuse B.O. of taking full advantage of the crises to push a left leaning agenda, i.e., more government is the solution to all our problems. I will also accuse B.O. of not moving to aggessivly lower tax rates, which would end this economic mess quickly, because of the same left leaning agenda.
The current mess goes back to at least the Carter Administration and at the heart of the matter is the idea of, “Transfer of risk.” Specifically, over the years THE RISK OF MAKING A LOAN WAS TRANSFERRED FROM THE LENDER TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
Over the past few decades banks have been accused of not lending money to minorities or inner city people. This was of course somewhat true, banks thought that lending to people who were unlikely to pay back the loan was bad business. Over the years banks came under increasing pressure to make sub-prime loans by many groups interested in “helping” inner city populations. The banks, fearing bad publicity, began making more sub-prime loans but banking regulations limited how many of these loans could be made.
Pressure then began to be applied directly to the Federal Government to lower the standards for banks so that, for example, a person who had only held a job for six months could still get a prime loan. The main thing that happened was that the government agencies, Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae began buying loans from the banks that had previously been deemed sub-prime.
Once the Federal Government started buying bad loans the banks were free to make them since they, the banks, would not be left holding the bag should the barrower default on his loan. I like to say, “The government put out the slop, and the pigs showed up. If you didn’t want the pigs to show up, the government shouldn’t have put out the slop.”
When bad loans entered Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae they were seen as “Government loans” by the public. These loans were bundled together and sold as investments (CMO’s) to the public. They had the AAA rating of all government debt …but, as we know, the loans were not AAA quality. Just about every institution bought CMO’s and they often used them as collateral for other loans.
The Federal Government not only fueled the current crises by allowing for the transfer of risk from the privet sector to the public sector but they also fueled a run away housing market by assuring that the banks always had money to lend.
The above has been quick and dirty but this is what happened. The Federal Government is at the heart of the problem … If the risk/reward nature of capitalism had not been violated than banks would not have made the bad loans and the crises would have never happened.
“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Dr. Elmer Fudd as quoted by paulie4, the quasi-intellectual
yucka yucka yucka.
To pualie4,
While i agree with you most recent post, a genuine shame, i think you are framing your discourse in a limiting fashion. The type of black and white thinking you seem to be pushing leaves very little room for a genuine conversation about important issues. To universally rule out socialism is a tremendously precarious position, just as ruling out capitalism leaves one open to various routes of attack. Try to entertain the idea that the dividing lines that you seem to grasp so smugly don’t even exist. Politics, society and culture are fluid and ever changing. Or keep looking through your narrow-minded lens. It’s incredible to me that the framework of discourse in america has become so incredibly incoherent. As an aside, i think B.O. deserved the prize. Not for his tangible achievements, but for the hope he has instilled in the world. It’s hard to feel in america, i know, but things are changing globally. Maybe, just maybe, america isn’t so important as she still thinks she is.
Well, I do universally rule out socialism! I believe that it is the duty of every person who truly loves the idea of freedom to wake up every morning resolved to do what they can to end socialism!
I wrote the above because I didn’t want you to think that I am in the least persuaded to adopt a gray area attitude towards the disease. A little socialism is like a little cancer. You may be able to live with a little, some people live with a lot …but it limits you and it will eventually turn into something intolerable.
Socialism breads corruption in government and dependency among the people. A socialist state is always one step away from being a police state. Every American has an amazing and unique heritage which is centered around the idea of limited government. Limited government puts both responsibility and freedom in the hands of the people.
It’s been said that in America today, “It’s okay to be a seeker, but anyone who has found is narrow minded!” The mood in America is that if you are open to all ideas than you are very enlightened. But the ideas we are seeing B.O. and the Democrats in Congress put on the table are not “New” ideas, they are very old ideas! Greater government power to “Help” the people is an idea that is as old as the hills! A government that provides an environment where people can meet their own needs, that’s the NEW idea! That’s the idea that allowed America to become a supper power like none that ever existed on earth. That’s the idea that B.O. is seeking to do away with.
It’s also been said that, “Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it” and I’m afraid that, that is exactly what is happening now. Most Americans have no idea that truck loads of politicians, gifted speakers most, have risen up promising that government will do all sorts of wonderful things if only the people would give the government more power. This is an old story that always ends in the same way …misery for the people.
hey paulie4, you forgot to end each of your blah blah blah lip exercises with your legacy statement: “Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Dr. Elmer Fudd as quoted by paulie4, the quasi-intellectual
yucka yucka yucka
Ahh my mistake, i actually meant for this to be a response to Paulie4′s comment on the B.O. health care press conference.
2009 Nobel Peace Prize Recipient:
Barak Obama.
Congratulations.
Some things in life are just classic! The President with no unique accomplishments of any kind is given an award for …. wait for it …. wanting to do something!
As long as the nominee seeks to limit U.S. power, the five members of the Nobel Prize Committee will always hold the nominee in high regard.
Hey Paulie4, stick to topics you are an authority on like……
“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Elmer Fudd
That is more on your level.
yucka yucka yucka
The world sees something in Obama that the small minds of some americans cannot seem to see;
Would you be surprised to lean that people from Dallas who will denounce the Dallas Cowboys will find raving fans in Washington D.C.? Not so many in Dallas though.
Obama is pure joy to everyone in the world who, for whatever reason, would like to see an end to American excellence and dominance. Al Gore was (Is) such a person, Jimmy Carter is such a person and so was Yasser Arafat, all of these people and many more of similar scholarly standing have been recipients of the Nobel Peace Prize. If you’ve got any power at all and you’d like to see America taken down a peg, you’ll find raving fans in Norway.
B.O.’s great achievement in bring lasting peace to the world was to give a few speeches. Fortunately for the B.O. the speeches were all about less American power and influence, hence like many before him, he became a nominee.
It’s been said that if you really …..Really …wanted to give the Nobel Peace Prize to a group of people who “Actually do something” about creating lasting peace, then give it to the U.S. military.
B.O., a man singularly lacking in any sort of unique accomplishments has now been given an award by five men in Norway for doing absolutely nothing … In less you call giving a speech a noteworthy event.
paulie4, you obviously do not know what is the the criteria for the Nobel Peace Prize. One can win it for potential accomplishments (like changing the attitudes of fellow world leaders towards the United States, as Obama did).
Also, you are one UNAMERICAN fellow. Anyone in the world could be awarded the Peace Prize and a fellow American (our leader no less) won the award.
You are a hypocrite in the worst way. Always talking about capitalism and American freedom of choice, while in the next breath, criticize a fellow American for winning what americans should be proud of: Winning the Nobel PEACE Prize.
It seems that freedom of making money in peace is your only agenda.
I know quite a bit about the Nobel Peace Prize, I’ve followed its devolution for some time. The five member committee which chooses the winner is elected by the Norwegian parliament which is of course socialist leaning.
These days the prize is basically given to anyone interested in ending American dominance. B.O’s speeches in Europe have been called the first, “Post American” speeches by an American President. While most U.S. presidents try to lead the world to greater democracy and freedom B.O.’s message is quite different and this is what has caught the attention of Europeans especially.
I understand very well the criteria for the award and yes a person can win the award for doing or not doing anything at all … all that is really necessary is that five key Norwegians like the candidate. This award is perfect for B.O. since B.O. doesn’t actually do anything. I’m sure that if B.O. continues to travel the world speaking passionately about ending American excellence and influence he’ll gane quite a little following who will no doubt shower him with gifts.
In my mind … a vary un-Norwegian mind …. A person should win an award for peace if they have DONE something to bring peace to the world. B.O. was nominated some 15 days after being elected so really this award is not about doing or not doing it is about “Being.” It’s about being B.O. who is not W. Bush. The Nobel committee has a message, renounce America and good things will happen to you. This has been their message for some time now.
the message is: renounce W. Bush and his policies and good things (or rather, better things) will happen to and for the US. The Nobel committee has sent a legitimate message. For 8 years the Bush admin. has made the world our enemies, with the notable exception of our lap dogs, Great Britain.
To change the attitude of the world towards the US within 9 months with our First World Allies is a very notable accomplishment. Win-Win situation.
What are you, a war-monger Paulie4?
“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Elmer Fudd
This is definitely more to your level of thinking paulie4. Stick with this and you will be alright.
yucka yucka yucka
Bravo! Well said Farkie Bollo!!!
Paulie – I think you are a hypocrite. In one breath you say Obama hasn’t done anything but make a few speeches and then in the next breath you are condemning Obama for his stance on healthcare reform, foreign affairs, etc. So which is it, Paulie? Has Obama done anything but make a few speeches or has he done a lot more?
Why are you using a web site, which is meant to provide a little humor in people’s lives, as your political blog? I would think there are better web sites that you could waste your day writing long-winded, unsubstantiated comments.
You know, you’ve made a good point,bravo. How can I say that B.O. hasn’t done anything and then condemn B.O. for his stances on health care, etc? Perhaps I should have written that B.O. hasn’t “Accomplished anything?” He’s certainly “Done” something in that he has been “trying” with all his might to move America in the direction of being a European style socialist state … and “Trying” is doing …I suppose. So good point!
Concerning your second paragraph … Unsubstantiated comments, you say! As far as I can tell I’m the only one here who does, at least sometimes, give links to source material. If you read something that I write and you’d like some substantiation, just ask!
I like this site a lot because the people here have almost no experience with socialism, and I have a lot. I’m kind of an evangelist for democracy and capitalism! Yes, I could go to web sites where all people write about it politics but I’d rather communicate with “Real” people who may not realize that America is right now in a fight for survival and that the next few years will determine the shape of America to come.
You are an evangelist for democracy (for people who can afford democracy that excludes all but the very rich), and capitalism (for the top tiered rich who can exploit the rest).
Your evangelism has been tried and repudiated. Preach something else instead of trying to raise a dead horse from the grave.
OOh Paulie4?? Looking at you trying to be an intellectual is like watching a baby puppy trying to hump a football. Pathetic.
Stick with what you know best, and I quote:
“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Dr. Elmer Fudd
yucka yucka yucka
There is a seven year old boy who lives across the street from me. The other day I got to watch a public display of parenting in action that reminded me of our collective roles in governing our country.
Marcus, the seven year old, decided that he wanted to ride his bike backwards. Marcus was surrounded by four foot onlookers and I watched as he swung his little leg over the middle bar and then experiment with griping the handle bars behind his back. He got one foot on one peddle and was about take off when from out of nowhere the kid’s dad appeared and snatched him off his bike. While Marcus had visions of neighborhood glory his dad had visions of yet another trip to the emergency room. Marcus had audacious hope …his dad had experience and wisdom.
It occurred to me that Marcus and Obama have a lot in common. B.O. is trying to ride the nation’s bike backwards. All us kids were excited at the spectacle thinking, “and just why not break with the old ways of bike riding?” Well, the reason of course is pain, expense and possibly extinction. We all need to stand ready to play the part of Marcus’s dad and straighten young B.O. out when necessary.
When the government attempts to improve our economy by massive spending (Keynesian economics) it’s trying to ride its bike backwards. Keynesian economics is like trying to improve a ship by shoveling money into building ever increasingly large anchors. Keynesian economics does not work, never has. When a President becomes an indecisive Commander in Chief he’s riding his bike backwards, he’ll demoralize our troops and encourage our enemies. When a government pushes socialism it’s riding its bike backwards, innovation and excellence will be taxed while laziness and dependency will be subsidized.
I’m glad that Marcus has a father. I’m glad too that there are wise voices in Congress ….most of them Republican. I hope that both Marcus and Obama personally survive, I think Obama could do very well doing info commercials in the future and I have great plans for hiring teenager Marcus to mow my yard and kill moles. I hope that both Marcus and Obama learn that their actions can bring pain, expense and possibly extinction to themselves and their loved ones. I hope that they resolve to benefit those around them by listening to the wisdom of the founders of our country.
Great argument, except it overlooks the fact that most left-leaning, ‘socialist’ first world countries (Australia, Finland, Norway, Canada, even the UK – all backward bike riders by your maths) are doing a great deal better than the USA on all OECD indicators (liveability, health, education standards etc) and leaving you social Darwinists in the dust.
Another country heard from! OECD indicators you say! Well, I stand ready to discuss any indicator you wish. Why don’t you pick one and show how socialism has soundly trounced capitalism?
Having seen socialism close up and personal I can say that I know what it looks like, I know how it starts, and I know how it ends up. Socialism starts with a lie, “You have less because others have more.” Then it becomes more specific, “The government will solve social ills.” Socialism ends up like a marriage where the couple has lost their love for each other. These countries go though the motions but excellence, passion and self determination are gone. Socialism is slavery to the government. Your master may be kind or cruel but you are a slave none the less.
For Americans, what B.O. and the new Democrats are proposing is intolerable and should be flatly rejected. Americans, I believe, should be people who above all else value freedom. Yes, American’s may fail but they are happy to do it as free men and woman. No American should willingly give up freedom for the promise of “A better life” made by a government.
Capitalism offers the most people the most freedom and in the end benefits all of society the most. Will all people be great successes? No. But the next time you find yourself in a socialist leaning country get off the tourist trails and look around, misery is everywhere. In socialist leaning countries there is an edge to the social misery you find that you will not see in the U.S. Their misery is wrapped up in hopelessness. Americans, regardless of how poor they are, seem to carry around in them a hope … more than a hope …a resolve that if they really wanted to make life better it could be. American’s have something that few in the world have, we take it for granted and it something that B.O. and the new Democrats could very will destroy.
As a member of a so-called ‘socialist’ country (Australia) we have the second highest standard of living in the world, free medical services, have just raised our interest rates (first in the world to do so) as our economy has not been as adversely affected by the GFC as the rest of the world………and we also highly prize our freedom “paulie4″……..you dont have to be a capitalist to experience freedom.
Where was your freedom of speech when Bush was president……if you spoke against him you were labelled terrorists…….you call that freedom?
Well, “Socialism” is an economic system, not a political system, as I’m sure you are aware. I’m not at all sure just how socialist Australia is? Australia spends about 8.8% of her GDP on health care of which some 67% is government expenditure. But, individuals are encouraged to have their own privet health care too.
“Standard of living” is a nebulous term to me. Is a man who lives at home with his mother enjoying a high standard of living? He eats well, all his laundry is done and folded nicely, he has free housing, etc, etc. So by most standards a person is best off if they just live at home with mom. I think that there is more to living than eating and health care and how expensive it is to live.
Capitalism holds an unmatched power to drive individuals and nations to greater wealth and excellence while at the same time giving each person the greatest amount of personal freedom, but even if it didn’t I would still preach Capitalism simply because to live with the potential to make ones dreams a reality is a magic that none should have to do without.
To your point concerning freedom …No, you have less freedom than you would have if the government would just stay out of the health care business. Government provided health care is not free. The people of Australia are taxed for it and thus their economic freedom is diminished. Now, you may well say, “I’m perfectly willing to sacrifice some economic freedom for “free” health care, but don’t make the mistake of thinking that the government is providing “free” of charge. Also, don’t make the mistake that the history of the American people is to trade freedom for trinkets.
I’m afraid your last paragraph is just foolish. It would be much more accurate to say that if you were to speak out against the policies of B.O. you would be labeled a racist. Everyone was speaking out against President W. Bush’s policies and the man remained calm and a class act always respecting those with differing opinions. There were many on the left, in government too, which helped the enemies of the U.S. (and Australia) regularly but even these people were treated with respect by President W. Bush. …against many of our wishes!
Capitalism in it’s purest form: Look up the Industrial Age of England in the 19th century, followed by the Industrial Age in the US in the early 20th century.
I’m not sure that I understand this post. Surly you’re not saying that the governments of England and the U.S. had no affect on their economies during the Industrial revolutions of their respective countries, are you? I ask this question because, “Pure” capitalism would only exist where a government had no affect on the economy and only free market principles applied, as far as I know this has never happened at a national level.
More to the point, where I can point to the industrial revolution as leading to greater wealth and well being for all people in Britton and the U.S. I can not say the same for many of the socialist revolutions around the world, Cuba for example. Even where socialist revolutions have raised the populations from surf status to comrade status they have done so at a tremendous cost both in terms of human life and human dignity. The rapid growth of China is because they have adopted many of the free market characteristics common in capitalistic countries. In fact, socialism around the world has been a colossal failure and has only succeeded when their socialist polices are amended to allow a given amount of Capitalism.
Socialism looks great on paper and sounds great in a speach but the reality is always misery. Individuals know what they most need in life and they themselves are the most motivated to meet their own needs, not government bureaucrats. To believe that a government is going to be able to meet the needs of the individual is madness; it’s like believing that your mommy will always take care of you and that you would personally benefit the most from being taken care of by said mommy.
I love my mother but I left home for a reason … to meet my own needs and to be a free man.
Capitalism, left unchecked by the government, ALWAYS leads to a society of super rich, and a huge underclass which is used to make the rich richer.
Did you ever think why World War 1 occurred?
First, Capitalism is not left unchecked. Government has a proper role and puts limits, taxation, working standards etc, etc. on Capitalism. In other words, there is no such thing as unchecked Capitalism.
Second, there is nothing wrong with the, “Super rich” although jealousy is kind of ugly.
Third, If you’d like to see a disparity between classes you should take a look at a socialist country.
Oh, so you are saying that the Industrial Revolutions of the US and England were not unchecked? You, paulie4, are woefully ignorant of the history of capitalism.
At the turn of the 20th century, there was NO taxation or working standards imposed on the Industrialists. Secondly, the industrialists, because of lack of working standards and lack of taxation, became super rich due to no government intervention.
Third, why do you think the late 19th century to the 20th century was called the GILDED AGE? Uh, can you say “huge disparity between the classes of rich and non rich”?
You are arguing that eating more cheeseburgers is the key to superior physical fitness …or something like that ….I mean, let me get this straight … there I just had a drink …you are arguing that people today should embrace socialism because in the 19th century capitalism was unchecked?
Let’s just make sure I understand what the argument is before I go to the trouble of whacking off another one of the Black Knights (Ka-neg-ets) legs.
I see that you did not address the historical aspects of my statement. Ahhh, the true paulie4 has risen out of the cesspool of verbal drivel!
I did not mention anything about socialism. I criticized unimpeded Capitalism and used historical facts to back up my argument. You, on the other hand, conveniently jumped on the ‘socialism’ argument to avoid the obvious: That you have no repudiation of the fact that Capitalism, when left to its own devices which you support, eventually divides a country into the privileged few ‘haves’ and the vast majority of ‘have-nots’.
It is also ironic that you use the analogy of the black knights—an era of unimpeded capitalism where there were the small group of extremely rich, defended by a larger group of mercenaries (the knights), who had the whole population working for both–those working poor were called: Serfs.
Can you say ‘The Medieval Age’?
These are the words coming from a person who quotes Elmer Fudd as a intellectual authority; and I quote from paulie4′s recent statement:
“Wisten to the whythmic whythm of the woodwinds as it wowws awound and awound…and it comes out here!”
Dr. Elmer Fudd
yucka yucka yucka
Obama seems like a nice guy. did i vote for him? No. I’m glad he won though cause McCain straight dicked me when i was at sky harbor airport.
Have you ever met a doctor out socially? Question: Was he wearing a white lab coat?
Well strangely, when specially invited doctors showed up to hear a B.O. speech in the Rose Garden yesterday they all showed up wearing their white lab coats Oh wait …no, they were told by B.O. staff to wear their white lab coats! Some of the Docs must have thought that it was stupid to be out of the office wearing the coats and they showed up wearing what doctors really wear when they are out of the office, sooooo, the B.O. staff had them dress up …coats were available and handed out!
I don’t know what to write about this except, “WHAT THE HECK?” What are we doing now, North Korean propaganda films to be released to the people to insure the people think a certain way? Doctors do not support the government messing with their business any more than anyone else wants the government messing with their business BUT B.O. wants us to believe that doctors do support government intervention. Yesterday’s speech to a select group of invited doctors was a show for the press. Nothing new in the speech at all. B.O. wanted you and me to see a bunch of doctors all smilingly supporting big government in the examining room with you and your doctor …the problem was that doctors look like everyone else …so, the solution was to dress them up!
I’ve seen examples of ham-handed manipulation before, but this takes the cake. This is B.O.’s new age of government transparency?
If you’d like to read the full story and see some photos of kim Jong ….I mean B.O.’s staff, handing out the props, go here:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/tricky_doctored_photo_kTVWHZ3vEeRQbxCC0TNZHN
ha! And can you refresh our memories as to what the previous administration did with kim jong during their 8 years in office?
Silence?
I thought so.
I love your scathing ‘big government’ reference – as if big business is somehow going to provide solutions to the USA’s social ills – Bernie Madoff as a great resource for social capital?! When will you see that your nation needs to care for and about all its peoples, call it social capital, socialism, whatever – your survival of the fittest thinking has given you social decay , the politics of fear and dissolution. You needed the courage to back Obama, not fall back into division and greed.
I saw this site on http://www.DanielDickey.com(the MTV VJ) and must say it is just as funny!!
Did this guy make StuffJewishPeopleLike.com too?
Get AIDS and die!
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