#11 Asian Girls
January 20, 2008 by mylosh
Please note that this is one area where white women are exempt from, but they should be exempt from other things such as voting and participation in Division 1 sports.
95% of white males have at one point in their lives, experienced yellow fever. Many factors have contributed to this phenomenon such as guilt from head taxes, internment camps, dropping the Nuclear bomb and the Viet Nam War . This exchange works both ways as asian girls have a tendency to go for white guys. (White girls never go for asian guys. Bruce Lee and Paul Kariya’s dad are the only recorded instances in modern history). Asian girls often to do this to get back at their strict traditional fathers. There is also the option of dating black guys, but they know deep down that this would give their non-english speaking grandmother(s) a heart attack.
White men love asian women so much that they will go to extremes such as stating that Sandra Oh is sexy, teaching English in Asia, playing in a coed volleyball league, or attending institutions such as UBC or UCLA (please note that both schools’ colors of “blue” and “yellow” are intentional also the “A” in “UCLA” stand for “Asian” while the “B” in “UBC” stands for “Billion” try and figure out what the rest of the letters stand for). Another factor that draws white guys to asian women is that white women are jealous of them.
Take for instance the fact that asian women well into their 30s and 40s retain teen / college girl looks without the help of botox, yoga or a trendy diet (future posts). Asian women also avoid key white women characteristics such as having a mid life crisis, divorce, and hobbies that don’t involve taking care of the children (also future posts). Should white guy / asian girl marry, they produce hybrids that are atheistically pleasing, but are very annoying. This practice is also a means by which white people can catch up to the asian peoples in the population race, as most of the hybrids often act white rather than asian.
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I once put the pictures of 12 beautiful White European women on a Nazi web site and asked the Nazis to identify the national origin of these beautiful ladies. Not one “SUPERIOR” Nazi got them right. Not one Nazi could tell if they were German, Irish, Swedish, French, English, Italian etc. They were blondes, brunettes, redhead heads, blue eyes, green eyes, brown eyes. They were ALL Russian women. ALL GORGEOUS AND BEAUTIFUL….SO FUCK you Nazis and your racial purity bullshit. I’m even of German stock so fuck you again and AGAIN!!!. There are many beautiful women of ALL races and I love ALL women and my sex life is wonderful. Go ahead and fuck your miserable lives up even more. I’m going to taste the delicious, young pussy of a young, slender, beautiful Asain girl tonight.mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
While you go stroke your limp, beer intoxicated pecker to your Heil Hitler anthems. AHHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA!
AHAHAHAHAHHA EVEN MORE!
HAHAHAHAHA, hey Americanmark, you just got BITCHSLAPPED by an international blowhard. LOL You make America look bad dumbass. Shut the fuck up and take your slap like the bitch that you are.
Yucka yucka yucka
Sir, if you do not mind, I would like to hold you up as an example of the phenomenon of which I have spoken.
1. It is not impossible that at least a few of the girls in your experiment were not of genuine Slavic origin. To the uninitiated, individuals of – for example – mixed tatar/russian origin, may pass for fully ethnically Russian.
2. Your attitude toward sexual relations, in my opinion only, show clear signs of non-white cultural influence. It is a decadent morality, that which places sexual pleasure and conquest above dignified behaviour and an the ability to control ones urges. However, the celebration of unfettered and animalistic male sexuality is a prominent component in the masculine identity of marginalized black males.
In other words: Lay of the whiggering and start acting your race. Cretin.
i’ve just been reading through this whole blog that started as nothing.
i’m wondering why everyone is judging each other? why is everyone basing their opinions on race? race has nothing to do with the person who you are inside. yet all anyone sees is that everyone will judge and put each other down.
everyone wonders why there is war. everyone wonders why no one can live in peace. if there were no race to begin with, or if everyone could just get over themselves and not be racists or racialists or whatever, the world would be closer to peace.
thank you
@othercommenters
Way to spoil a funny post.
Ah, guys, if I wanted this level of racism I’d be reading H.P. Lovecraft.
Bobeira!! ser branco o mundo é igual, as pessoas são iguas.
Say White,
I notice you did not mention your ethnicity, ashamed?
I would be too.
You could only wish it to be on par with the Italian race.
From the Roman Empire to the Renaissance to the present, no other European country has contributed more to Civilization than Italy.
Disagree? Come on back and we will debate it.
But I would not bother, a scumbag such as you must not have surpassed..ah..junior high?
STFU ya dago!
um, Italians are white. Not a race unto themselves, but part of the typically referred to Caucasian race. There are, of course, Italians that have emmigrated from other parts of the world, who could be Negros, or Orientals.
negros or orientals??….yea….right….
It’s say what. Not Say White.
My dislike isn’t for Italians from Italy, but Italian-Americans.
makka da pizza, makka da pizza! you like da juice, mama mia makka da pizza.
Ben needa ta shutah da fucka uppah.
LOL!
howah cannah yu laffah wit a beegah dicka in yo mouf, bada briteesha bitchah?
Yu too just shutah da fucka uppah along wit yo Ben boy luvah.
What’s wrong with the Irish? Why are other whites always beating on them? How are they not white? What did they ever do to everyone else? Even when emigrating to the US they faced a lot of discrimination.
These are questions I would like answered.
What’s wrong with the Mics? Nothing apart from the fact that they’re always drunk.
Many irish live in that craphole state of Masstaxitchusetts where the people are miserable looking, weather is horrible, govt. corrupt, people are rude/abrasive. They live in southie, and enjoy drinking, fighting, drinking, fighting, Kennedys, and drinking/fighting/fornicating/, and the miserable weather/ and white trash people of Taxachusetts
I shall provide an example:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509662,00.html
DUBLIN — Cars torched, firefighters attacked, police bombarded and neighbors terrified: It was another fine St. Patrick’s Day in Ireland, where inebriated mobs annually turn districts of Dublin and Belfast into a nightmare.
Perhaps it answers your questions?
Think of it as Devil’s Night – just with privileged, educated and light skinned people.
And I now encourage you to meditate upon the SOUL of a people whose young elites celebrate their national festivities by rioting and torching things. Maybe it’s just me, but I do try to schedule my participation in violent mobs to days without major cultural significance.
Some of the most stunning mixed (women) . . .I think is from Sweden . . .Asia . . .
Great Discussion! lol.
Allow me to clarify a few things, the way I see them, from my East Euro perspective:
1. Genuine white americans are either anglo-saxon or germanic. If you are neither of these then you aren’t “quality” white. You can still be white, naturally, but many americans are quite race-mixed and therefore low on the white scale.
2. Jews, slavs (of all types), irish and the like are not white. They just aren’t. They can best be labeled “semi-white”.
3. One should distinguish between germanic, latin (including the latin-american whites) and eastern european whites. We are very different. And quite often we do not like each other. American whites (outside the germanic/anglo-saxon categories) are really an exception – a kind of “bastard whites”.
4. Non-whites seek white partners because its the only way for them to become white themselves. The only exception are high-caste east-asians, who often (and rightly so) consider themselves above whites.
5. Personally, I would not date anglo-saxons or semi-whites because of the differences. No insult intended, but I don’t think the mix would turn out well. I would consider all latin types and a select few germanic whites as partners, but preferring of course one of my own type.
In the non-white department high-caste persians (and white afghans) are of course compatible. And, perhaps surprisingly, I do feel sympathy for black women. They are often hard-working, dedicated, honest and dependable women. Very much underappreciated. I think a lot of white men feel threatened by their strong character. Its easier for them to go with a low-class asian. So guys going the asian route often pick the less desirable material from these races. Which of course degenerates the white american race.
These are my cents.
STFU kraut!
Actually, the only thing that you clarified is how selective you are in using definitions. “White” is an innacurate and idiomatic term that grandfathers in all Caucasions. If you are going to define race based on colour, then there are three: Negro, Oriental & Caucasian. As such, eastern European (Slavs) Celts, Franks, Anglo-saxons and other Germanic, Greeks, Arabs & Isrealis (Semitic peoples) Hispanics, Spanish, Indo-Aryans (Northern Indian, Persians) are all white. There is no such thing as a “quality” white verses a semi white.
You are just employing your personal bigotry to label folks that do not fit your narrow interpretation. You like to think that there is a more pure form of being white, based upon appearance.
I respectfully disagree.
1. First of all, I do not claim profess the ultimate truth, only my personal views. And the purpose is merely to nuance the discussion. No one needs to feel offended.
2. White skin does not a white man make. Were this to be the case, we would perceive africans afflicted with albinism as white, to take an obvious example.
Neither is “white” the same as caucasian. That may be true in terms of physical anthropology, but people as well as cultural institutions and even nation-states clearly do not act according to this definition.
I would argue that whiteness is also a moral disposition, an ontology and many other things as well, that I can’t think of right now.
To exemplify: I would argue that empathy and compassion are some of the defining traits of whiteness. East asians, for example, are often highly intelligent (more so than whites) but also – often – cruel and sadistic. Japanese gameshows, anyone? And semites, to make a sweeping generalization, show empathy and solidarity only within the group. Compare this with the foreign aid – institutions and volunteer and charity organizations existing in white countries or among white peoples.
Look then at universalism. In anglo-saxon countries the belief that anyone should have the opportunity to material success, regardless of background.
Let us now suppose that white men were to go to Asia and demand not only equal opportunity – but also proportional access to desirable asian women. Suppose that one was to complain about the “media image” of white men in asian countries not being sufficiently positive. What are the odds they would tell you to “take a hike”? Or suppose I went to the Middle East (maybe Saudi…) and demanded the right to build churches. The sabres would come out pretty fast.
From these examples I argue that empathy and universalism are distinctly white characteristics. Not to say they do not exist in other races, but not to so high a degree.
My final example is quite obvious: Whiteness is also determined by its opposite. And so, historical enemies of European nations cannot be white/European. See Turkey, Mahgreb countries and Russia as examples of this.
Conclusion: Whiteness is not only skin-color but also morality, history and perception. And in this perspective whiteness is a rather exclusive club.
3. Whites, as a category in different aspects, have in modern times been defined first in Europe and then in the US.
3.1 Let us therefore briefly look at the development of different European races/ethnicities. In northern Europe the cold climate and relative isolation created the Germanic peoples, who developed a civilization built around thrift, industriousness and craftiness. Not surprisingly this is also the birthplace of the industrial revolution. In southern Europe, the warmer climate, better access to trade routes and greater contact with other peoples created a civilization excelling in culture and refinement. Southern European countries gave us art and literature, the legal system and opened the way to the American continent. In the east, wars and asiatic invasions prevented industrial and civic development, so instead religion was developed as the mode for understanding the world and acting within it. You will see byzantine aesthetics and architecture, the history of religions and fatalistic philosophy.
As a consequence, people in the north are crafty, in the south cultured and in the east religious. Similarly the official and public taboos against racial mixing seem stronger in northern European countries – but so is the inclination to mixing. They are lower in southern countries, but pairings with other races being determined by class more than race. And in the east almost non-existing since, I believe, a history of conflict has left people inherently hostile to asians and semites.
I argue that this is the reason why so many northern European-type men are attracted to asian women, whereas the phenomenon is less common in southern Europe and practically non-existent in the east. Latin-American women seem here to be the preference in racially mixed couples.
3.2 I now turn my attention to the perception of whiteness in the US. I am certain that you, better than I, are aware of that US immigration-policy for a long time (up 1965, I believe) was geared towards preserving the northern European character of the country. And thus restricting immigration from southern and eastern Europe as well as from Asia.
This in my opinion indicates that it was only recently that your perception of whiteness was changed on the national level. The involvement in this process of the big-nosed people that like the money cannot be underestimated. And if we look at the result of this (for Germanic peoples unnatural) belief we can see that the US is quickly losing it’s northern European character, it’s WASP elite long since removed from power and rapidly declining. It is my belief that genuine white people (European descent + a few other) are already a minority within the country. It is to me obvious that the usage of the term caucasian as interchangeable with white, together with the superficial acceptance of semites and other races as white has greatly contributed to the civilizational decline of the US.
4. Semi-whites and racial quality.
4.1 Slavs, finno-ugrics and the like.
Slavs do not, in my humble opinion, possess the traits, qualities and narrative to be counted as white. Exception being the southern slavs (serbs and croats) who can be said to be narrowly accepted.
Western slavs (notably poles and czechs) do try to pass themselves of as both white and European, which is a ruse only the uninformed (notably americans) ever fall for. The case is the same for the finno-ugrics (mainly finns, baltics and hungarians). The irish have already been discussed.
For an individual from a highly multi-racial society like the US the differences may seem negligible or even irrelevant, but it is the failure to recognize such differences that has led the white americans to the status of minority in their own land.
4.2 Racial quality
Yes, one can often determine the quality of the individual by the level of racial distinctiveness present. It is not an absolute measure by any means, but good enough for the regular person. This is, in my opinion, the reason why many white americans look disproportioned or otherwise “wrong”. To much mixing between incompatible ethnicities.
Just look at dogs as a comparison: All races have been bred for different purposes and deviation from the standard is not desirable. One can of course cross a shepherd with a shepherd, and so forth. But crossing completely different breeds is rarely a good idea. And if done on a large scale, is highly detrimental to the race.
Make of it what you want.
“I would argue that empathy and compassion are some of the defining traits of whiteness.”
Sorry, but I disagree. Whites, especially Northern European whites have always struck me as being very chilly, very cold people. They also have a history of exploiting and manipulating other groups of people. I also disagree with this:
“East asians, for example, are often highly intelligent (more so than whites) but also – often – cruel and sadistic.”
I’ve traveled the world and have been to Korea and Japan and couldn’t disagree more. How many East Asians do you know?
Whites (Anglo-saxons especially) are the worst thing to have ever existed in this world. They’ve created more pain and suffering than anyone else. They are cold, insensitive, and inhumane. You are an example of this. You strike me as being somewhat cold and, yes, inhumane yourself. Reading this page makes my stomach churn.
$20 says you’re a sociopath.
Joe, please, surely we can do better than that?
1. Northern Europeans may be reserved, but they are hardly inhospitable. Or perhaps you would like to mention a few asian countries that have opened up for massive immigration from the third world and allowed their taxpayers to pay for the upkeep of those immigrants?
You mean to say asian people don’t do exploitation of other groups? I assume you are joking?
Also, perhaps the japanese would be most receptive to my complaints of “discrimination” in the dating scene when it comes to good looking japanese women? Considering how they even let their own starve to death (http://www.archpundit.com/wurfwhile/?p=1398) there is no doubt in my mind that they would surely accommodate me. And if I ever felt discriminated they would surely compensate me.
2. That is a completely irrelevant issue. By western/european standards many of their customs are crazy and sadistic. Check out the gameshows. The treatment of animals. Check out how they treat each other! Things that would be completely intolerable among white people.
3. How then do you want to explain that white people feel guilt over their wrongdoings and try to make them right? Hardly the actions of sociopaths. Maybe one should try to pull that stuff in Asia and see how it works out? lol.
1. Is their “hospitality” really genuine hospitality, or is it a hospitality coming from guilt? After all, when you enslave a race (blacks), bring some in to do your physical labor (chinese), stick your fingers in other country’s businesses and start wars and create refugees (southeast asia, middle east), the least they could do is allow them to come in.
What’s this talk about discrimination in the dating scene in Japan? When I was in the Navy in Japan almost all of the punk 19 year old kids had a Japanese girlfriend. A lot of them were quite good looking. I’m sure you could do better than scrawny 19 year old kids.
If anything, there’s more discrimination in America. There’s still a stigma of non-whites getting with their “white women”. Asians in particular have been brought down through subtle conditioning through the media.
2. This is all a matter of perspective. I’m sure through Eastern eyes, some of the practices in the West are equally strange.
3. “How then do you want to explain that white people feel guilt over their wrongdoings and try to make them right?”
You mean how they felt guilt over Vietnam and tried to make it right again with Iraq and Afghanistan?
1. I am certain that quilt plays a substantial part. And there is nothing wrong with that. The concept of “making right” what one has done wrong seems to be prominent among white Americans.
Does this exist among the other races?
Do Asians express guilt and attempt to right their wrongs? Are the Japanese acknowledging and righting the atrocities (Nanking, cannibalism and comfort women) they committed in Asia? The Chinese enslaving their own, even children, in the thousands even today?
How about the Semites? Do they not have a history of enslaving both black and white people in the millions? More so, slavery is to this day present in the Arab and Jewish world without any apparent criticism. Where are the reparations? The affirmative action?
Blacks I will not even mention.
The engagement in slavery of Northern Europeans (latins and easterners didn’t really do this) is minuscule compared to the other races. Who continue such practices even after Northern Europeans outlawed them more than a century ago.
Is there no sense of guilt or shame among Asians, Blacks and Semites? Why do they not attempt to right their wrongs, only exploiting the guilty consciences of white westerners to gain material advantages?
2. But I don’t want low-class women or confused teenagers. I want the NICE Japanese women. The ones with educations and good social standing. And I don’t want the carnal stuff. Ain’t no maniac. I want the marriage and the social acceptance and for them to portray me as a cool guy on TV. Isn’t that what our rice-growing friends are asking of Northern Europeans?
3. What is this discrimination you speak of? Attraction is not a meritocratic institution. You don’t have a “right” to a woman just because you’re nice guy. The lady has to like you too. And it seems many white ladies do not like non-white men. What is the problem?
There’s no one stopping white women from choosing freely in this day and age. But the smart ones know that they are hard currency, because they are the only women able to give birth to white children. Why should they give that up?
Why not have Asian ladies racemix with sub-saharan blacks? And then maybe China or Japan or Korea can have a half-black president/premier?
It is said that the pursuit of equality is the destruction of excellence. Hence, attempting sexual equality between the races is, in my opinion, to the detriment of all parties.
2. Perhaps you mean the lack of institutionalized racism, slavery, animal cruelty, pre-mediated starvation and stuff like that? I can see why the lack of these phenomena must seem abhorrent to you.
3. To be fair, the muslims did strike first. But in the greater perspective they are merely acts of stupidity and not of calculated evil as in the case of Semites and Asians.
I want to thank you for posting. Its extremely rare to get any mental food out of a blog.
You mentioned in a previouse post, that dogs have been bred for desireble traits and cross breeding ruined what they had been bred for. Many of those dogs were cross bred to get those traits.
I’m just throwing this out there for feedback, lets suppose cultural and societal conditions reach a level of intolerable circumstances. While finding an appropriate colored mate is still easy, finding one you want to be with for the duration, is extremely difficult. If we didn’t have divorce as an opt out option, most marriages wouldn’t ever even be entered into in the first place.
The resulting consequences of broken families leads to even more cultural erosion and depravity.
Everyone I know that married an Asian woman, is still married, is still happy, and is very stable with decent kids. I suggest that only to illustrate that as the “norm” with these couplings. The cultural and societal benefits are obviouse. Now check me if I’m wrong, just as people breed and cross breed dogs for desired traits, why can’t people crossbreed for a better contiuantion of the species? Granted rampant crossbreeding like happens when you put a lot of different kinds of dogs together wouldn’t achieve that. Ah forget it…….. mankind is doomed. Since white poeple will never allow the ones that can’t function to starve to death, natural selection is eliminated. While the “undesirables” procreate like bunnies eventually that will overwhelm the “desirables” ability to feed them. Chaos will ensue, as is already evidenced in America.
You need to get laid man
Desteptul, you are a true racialist (not racist), but racialist.
Racialism
Racialism is an emphasis on race or racial considerations.[1]
Racialism entails a belief in the existence and significance of racial categories, but not necessarily in a hierarchy between the races, or in any political or ideological position of racial supremacy.
An interesting perspective (you are one of the very few white people on this blog to at least THINK before you write your opinions).
STFU beaner!
oh badbritishteef, you are such a real man. Can I come over and fuck you in the ass again tonight? It seems that before our love sessions, you sound like a screaming bitchy-man, like right now.
A dick in your ass a day
keeps your rage away!
I can only humbly bow my head and concede that I stand on the shoulders of great thinkers. I believe the repression of racialist thinking among whites have put us in the less-than-flattering position of denying our racial interests as well as hypocriting about our remaining privileges.
But while the access to women (both white and non-white) is indeed an inherited privilege from the time when Northern European whites ruled the world, this is no longer the case. And therefore I see little decorum in continuing the aforementioned attitude. If women feel that we are worthy of favorable treatment we should – in my personal opinion – openly accept it, as long as it is handled in a dignified manner. However I would enjoy hearing the opinion of others.
irish are not white??? WTF?? LOL! You are a certified nutcase!
Irish not White? Holy fucking shit. I’m a 5th generation American of German, Dutch, and Russian stock and if the Irish are not White I most certainly must be of the Blackest of African Man. For this I hate the Germanic side of my ancestry. What fucking arrogance. FUCK NAZIS. I love the Irish. God bless the Irish and the GREATNESS of these wonderful people!
The “Crying Game II”, I am working on your theme song John. How did it feel to sweet talk a he-she.
Funny you should post this, Desteptul, because I consider Eastern Europeans on the lowest part of the totem pole of the white race. Even lower than Italian-Americans, whom I generally don’t like. But I cannot stand Eastern Euros, be they Russian, Ukrainian, Polish, whatever. Most of the ones that I’ve met are hygienically challenged, disrespectful towards women and virulently anti-Semitic. And I certainly consider them less white than Irish or even Italians. So what do you do about that.
Everything you said was based on your personal opinion, and you presented them as fact. Or rather you attempted to present them as fact, and exposed yourself as someone pretty pathetic. Black women don’t need approval from the low-class likes of you. And they certainly don’t need your pity – you should be busy feeling sorry for yourself.
Right on, man! There’s nothing like a opening your mouth and showcasing your lack of knowledge on the subject.
1. Under point two (2) in my previous comment I specifically excluded slavs from the “white european” category. And as you may or may not know – Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Czechs and the like – are all slavic peoples. And hence excluded from my argument.
2. Eastern slavs are most certainly NOT disrespectful towards women. Theirs, and I’m now primarily referring to russians, are on the contrary on of the societies where women have the most power and influence; to the extent that the opinion of the women carries far more weight (and all decision-making power) than that of the men. Someone not familiar with the cultures in question has no way of knowing this. And for that reason I shall not speak about western and southern slavs, since my knowledge is far to limited in that area.
3. Yes, I do not like the italians either. They dress well. Make nice cars and watches. Famous food and good wines. And are successful with women. I wish they would just go away so I wouldn’t have to look bad next to them. And if they make me look bad, then I can really understand why americans don’t like’em.
4. Anti-semitism is a very substantial part of european history and narrative. Almost all great european leaders have been antisemites. And of course europeans still are, even though the folks in the western part like to keep quiet about it.
In closing, perhaps we shall read a book or two before we open our mouths the next time?
I can only summarise from memory, as I do not wish to find references. Also there are very few facts on early European waves of migration.
The Celts who lived in England, were conquered by the Romans, the rate of intemarriage was small and less than in other conquered territories probably because the duration of the conquest was limited.
We therefore have a mainly celtic population in England by 500 AD. Invited Angles then arrived thereafter. After the usurpation of the Celts the population was Anglo Saxon celt. There is no record of widespread slaughter of the celts, we have an integrated population by the Norman conquest. The Norman conquest did not change much of the population make up and even then we must remember that the Normans or Norsemen were related to the Germanic scandinavians.
We can of course also mention that Celts were a large and continued population within the Germanic territories in mainland europe.
The British including the Irish are a mixture of Germanic tribes.
I suggest that you are wrong.
Once again, whiteness is more than skin-color or genetic markers.
Example: It is my understanding that if an african-american adopts white behavior he (or she) is ostracized from the black community as an Uncle Tom, but accepted in the white community in return.
A white american that adopts black cultural and social markers is referred to as a whigger and expelled from the white community.
What shall we then say about an entire group that is light skinned but collectively adopts the behavior of the african-american underclass?
I believe you get my point.
Can you give, the criminal statistics for this light skinned group you mention.
Perhaps their record of involvement in the Police and the military.
The rate of drug abuse and vagrancy.
Unemployment and assitance
Here are a few starters though in case your not familiar with old cliched arguments in racial circles.
Circa 1950
pope.drunk.conquered.violent.
It is irrelevant because perception, symbolism and adherence to norms is more important than statistics, at least when constructing race.
However you touch on an important point: The Irish weren’t white when they came to America. Neither were the majority of eastern and southern Europeans. Over time, norms and perceptions changed, and they became white. As did Semites and Jews and lots of other folks. Probably because American modernity (with its large Jewish component) changed the social norms. And then even people that acted non-white could be considered to have white behavior. I also argue that this is a degenerated racial standard.
And if you want to talk social assistance: The whole country has been on social assistance for like 30 years.
It is difficult to discuss if your are unable or unwilling to adopt the terms accepted by your peers. This is the basis of debate.
Your view of history is very personalised. It is hard to fathom where you get your influences. You seem to neither accept nor deney the work of others.
It can only then be said that your thoughts are well outside the range of modern racial politics. Your exclusion of white groups leaves you with the most marginalised niches.
As a fascist your should understand the concept of We Rule By Will and as such you can have no sizeable demographic support.
You should also understand the right of any race to assert its will.
It would appear that though this is an intellectual exercise your positon does not seem tenable and in fact is a liability to any consensus building amongst interested parties.
I can imagine only two places where you would survive making your opinions know and those places are shrinking.
We all change in time, or by force.
Edward, I do agree with you. Truth is different depending on which set of underlying assumptions one accepts as valid.
1. A practical perspective:
Lets look at the words of Dr.Pierce:
[Quote]Who can say that he has no non-Aryan ancestry at all in his family tree? Not I. Most people can say who their parents and grandparents are. Only a few Americans can go back as far as four generations, however. I doubt that as many as one percent of Americans can go back six generations with any degree of certainty. Jews and liberals seize this fact to confuse people with the claim that we’re all mongrels, that there is no such thing as a “pure” race, etc. — therefore, it doesn’t do any good to try to preserve the White race, because it really doesn’t exist.
I’m sure that you are not fooled by that sophistry. We must be practical. We know that there is a White race, and that it is easy to select individuals from that race who constitute a relatively “pure” sub-group. I’m not an expert on Amerindian ethnology, but I do know that the Indians consisted of many tribes which were racially distinct, ranging from essentially Caucasoid to essentially Mongoloid. So if one has Indian admixture, it depends a lot on what tribe. As a very rough rule, if a person looks White and thinks of himself as White and is the kind of person our other members wouldn’t mind their sisters marrying-and if we know that he’s no more than one-sixteenth non-White, we consider him White.[/End Quote]
We can perhaps call this a principle of practicality: If one looks white and it is not impractical – then one is white.
And logically we can have several outcomes, what happens when it is practically untenable to consider someone white?
I refer to behaviours such as drunkenness, violence, family abandonment and welfare-clientelism. If we accept these behaviours as white – on a collective level – how then are we different from blacks?
Do you know what the family abandonment rates are in Russia? Because I don’t. But statistics I have seen as well as personal experience, points to a rate of at least 40%.
Or how about the Irish giving an almost 70% backing to selling out the rest of Europe (Lisbon treaty) in exchange for more welfare money?
It is the defining characteristic of the higher races (whites and asians) that one does have ones affairs in order. Social problems are one thing, but the national institutionalization of degenerate behaviour is quite another.
2. A theoretical perspective:
I don’t claim to present the ultimate truth. And yes, my arguments are highly personalized. Nevertheless I believe the discussion to have merit.
To be concise:
Slavs are socially communist and uncivilized. (I’m not counting Serbs and Croats here)
Finno-Ugrics are Asian in character and social organization.
Irish are just untermenschen in general.
These peoples are not white.
Among European whites we should distinguish between:
Germanic (of which anglo-saxons are an extension)
Latin (including the Latin-American whites)
Eastern/Byzantine (where I would include Armenians)
I don’t have any authority to judge people. But I do encourage others to prove me wrong.
3. Modern racial politics have (in the post-war era) been developed mainly in the US and thus naturally shaped by the American experience. Just as the pre-war perspectives were shaped by different European experiences.
The American experience has given us a “pan-white” ideology. And in this context I ask you to ponder upon the pan-Slavic, pan-Arab, pan-Scandinavian, and pan-Asian ideas. Maybe the Asians can make it work. But the rest are sadly lacking in tangible success.
I would argue that this inclusive perspective is a distinctly Anglo-Saxon concept. It may work in the US, UK and Australia. But it is not self evident that it can be generalized beyond that.
Also, I do believe that a recognition of differences is vital to building the consensus you speak of, and that I believe we would all benefit from.
Perhaps it all boils down to the merits of a unified versus a differentiated understanding of the white race.
4. And so I ask you: Has the unified perspective really secured independence and development for whites in the anglo-saxon sphere?
Or are you, on the verge of being overrun, desperately trying to boost your numbers with inferior manpower?
You speak to me of Will; look yourself in the mirror. Do you, on a collective level, have what it takes to reclaim the continent your ancestors conquered?
*I believe the repression of racialist thinking among whites have put us in the less-than-flattering position of denying our racial interests as well as hypocriting about our remaining privileges. *
It is, I suggest illogical to maintain a racialist position as the premise for a discussion, then move onto a contraditory position of culture.
*Once again, whiteness is more than skin-color or genetic markers.*
If one has a hypothesis i.e racialism it should be investigated in a cogent manner.
Example, Germans in Slav countries, they are considered German, regardless of adopting local customs. This is racialism. Your switch to culture then begs the question of when Germans become slavs by culture. It lacks application.
Though I can see that one can dislike a given people and invent a premise for that emotion.
I apologize for being unclear.
1. It’s not illogical because race is defined slightly differently depending on which European “civilizational zone” one speaks of. That is: Germanic countries rely on blood, Latin countries on class and Eastern countries on faith. Very broad statement, but it think it reflects reality in the most general terms.
2. I argue that there is always a cultural component whether it is recognized or not. The Irish are the example for this. If you look white but act black – you’re not white.
Similarly for your German example: What do we say about a person of German race that self-identifies as Slavic, and has he loyalties with the slavs? Does that make the individual a German in the full meaning of the term? I do not know the answer to this question since I’m not German. Perhaps someone will enlighten me.
3. I am merely trying to be objective. I assure you that I do not harbor any animosity towards the ethnicities in question. Is it better to not speak ones views in order not to offend someone? I don’t think so.
I think that you need to become better educated. Most of your statements are incorrect.
Cheers.
Would you do me the honor of specifically pointing out these incorrect statements?
I my opinion there is very little absolute truth in these matters. Only different viewpoints that each are correct if one accepts the underlying assumptions. Therefore I do not claim that you are wrong in any way, but that I disagree on the perspective to be applied.
It is definitely not wrong to determine race from the purely scientific perspective of physical anthropology. It is in a sense the most correct approach.
The problem is that most people do not keep measuring tools at hand to determine the cephalic index of the people they encounter. They determine race by other means. So perhaps a sociological perspective is often more fruitful.
On the contrary, JeDi. Desteptul’s comments are more based on facts than your weak, disreputed racial facts (this is not the early-mid 20th century when so-called racial science was based on racist falsehoods.
Using terms as ‘negro’ and ‘oriental’ to categorize four fifths of the world (because four fifths of the world is NON-WHITE), while in the next breath, talk about Caucasians and their sub-catagories (eastern European (Slavs) Celts, Franks, Anglo-saxons and other Germanic, Greeks, Arabs & Isrealis (Semitic peoples) Hispanics, Spanish, Indo-Aryans (Northern Indian, Persians), is the height of racial arrogance.
You are the one who needs to become better educated. At least Desteptul states that these are his opinions, whereas you, on the other hand, make false statements and present them as truths.
Who is the better educated one in this picture?
Bitch you didn’t open up a book, so STFU. Your people are gross.
Look, ladyboy, I’m about a million (1 000 000) times smarter than you. And my internet-penis is also larger. So you would do well to remember that – sometimes – discretion is the better part of valour.
Now run tell that.
Desteptul, the fact that you place any weight on “race” really makes you look like a Nazi. Race is nothing other than superficiality, the only differences between human beings are cultural.
Excellent point! If racial differences are mainly cultural, does that not mean that race in itself is a concept that is primarily a cultural construct? Because this is what I argue! While I do believe that there is also a substantial genetic basis, it is the social and cultural aspects that interest me.
But does that mean that race does not exist? Because clearly people do act according to their perception of this concept. Perhaps one could even argue that it is a kind of imagined community?
And do communities not affect human behaviour?
Why should we then pretend not to see this? Or is there something wrong with acting in accordance with the interest of such a community?
Unfortunately this seems to only be the case for white people. Why is it not “nazi” to have black/asian/hispanic/jewish/whatever institutions acting in the self-interest of their respective communities?
That which we know as national socialism (I am a christian orthodox fascist, it is not the same thing!!!) is merely the white Germanic counterpart to primarily jewish group evolutionary strategies. Do NOT take my word for it. Instead I suggest you take a look at the writings of Kevin MacDonald. You might just learn something.
“Why is it not “nazi” to have black/asian/hispanic/jewish/whatever institutions acting in the self-interest of their respective communities?”
Because when whites do it, bad things happen. Black people start getting lynched, Jews tossed in a stove, stuff like that…
Really? Do you mean to imply that whites are inherently (perhaps genetically?) worse than other peoples?
How does that go together with the notion that race is irrelevant and superficial?
Do you perhaps state that blacks and jews do not collectively commit those kinds of acts? Because you would be correct.
They do other, and perhaps more interesting things instead. But it is not the topic of this discussion. Just google “muti killing” or “bank bailout”.
so many comments from angry virgin asian men.
If you had a penis the size of a grain of rice, you’d be an angry virgin also.
hi spanky, wut are u doing on teh internetz. shouldn’t u be in thailand, cambodia, phillipines, korea, japan wit ur bitter, pussywhipped white brothers? and stay away from the kidz u babboon.
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agree with girl below
all asian countries genetics are different especially among chinese and others
pls dont put us together
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