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de_la_soul_1All music genres go through a very similar life cycle: birth, growth, mainstream acceptance, decline, and finally obscurity.  With black music, however, the final stage is never reached because white people are work tirelessly to keep it alive.  Apparently, once a music has lost its relevance with its intended audience, it becomes MORE relevant to white people.

Historically speaking, the music that white people have kept on life support for the longest period of time is Jazz.  Thanks largely to public radio, bookstores, and coffee shops, Jazz has carved out a niche in white culture that is not yet ready to be replaced by Indie Rock.  But the biggest role that Jazz plays in white culture is in the white fantasy of leisure. All white people believe that they prefer listening to jazz over watching television.  This is not true.

Every few a months, a white person will put on some Jazz and pour themselves a glass of wine or scotch and tell themselves how nice it is.  Then they will get bored and watch television or write emails to other white people about how nice it was to listen to Jazz at home.  “Last night, I poured myself a glass of Shiraz and put Charlie Parker on the Bose.  It was so relaxing, I wish I had a fireplace.”  Listing this activity as one of your favorites is a sure fire way to make progress towards a romantic relationship with a white person.

Along with Jazz, white people have also taken quite a shine to The Blues, an art form that captured the pain of the black experience in America.  Then, in the 1960s, a bunch of British bands started to play their own version of the music and white people have been loving it ever since.  It makes sense considering that the British were the ones who created The Blues in the 17th Century.

Today, white people keep The Blues going strong by taking vacations to Memphis, forming awkward bands, making documentaries, and organizing folk festivals.  Blue and Jazz music appeal mostly to older white people and select few young ones who probably wear fedoras.  But that doesn’t mean that young white people aren’t working hard to preserve music that has lost relevance.  No, there are literally thousands of white people who are giving their all to keep old school Hip Hop alive.

Even as you read this, white people are telling other white people about the golden age of Hip Hop that they experienced in a suburban high school or through a viewing of The Wackness.

If you are good at concealing laughter and contempt, you should ask a white person about “Real Hip Hop.”  They will quickly tell you about how they don’t listen to “Commercial Hip Hop” (aka music that black people actually enjoy), and that they much prefer “Classic Hip Hop.”

“I don’t listen to that commercial stuff. I’m more into the Real Hip Hop, you know?  KRS One, Del Tha Funkee Homosapien, De La Soul, Wu Tang, you know, The Old School.”

Calling this style of music ‘old school’ is considered an especially apt name since the majority of people who listen to it did so while attending old schools such as Dartmouth, Bard, and Williams College.

What it all comes down to is that white people are convinced that if they were alive when this music was relevant that they would have been into it.  They would have been Alan Lomax or Rick Rubin.  Now the best they can hope for is to impress an older black person with their knowledge.


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I’m white and I like 70′s funk, like Parliament.

It’s catchy and easy to dance to, while also goofy and non-threatening.


I suspect that’s how you like your black people too, goofy and non-threatening.


 
 

My joke has always been, “you get older, you get into jazz”, which does apply to urban white people fairly accurately. Basically you will go to a club with mostly white people (except the bass player) and you will eat an expensive dinner, “listening” to perhaps the first 2 songs before you get all wine-buzzed and talk about finance to your bored date.

BTW “jazz” is now officially a meaningless term which encompasses everything from squeaking dissonant noise to John Tesh/Kenny G.


So you have achieved a socially secure status, presumably from years of work and application, and you can now enjoy good food and wine and pleasant conversation, but you feel the need to apologise because you tend to enjoy an inoffensive musical genre as a pleasant backdrop to your evening? I’d suggest you stop groveling before sneering pseuds and maybe grow a pair?


James is my biznitch!


 
 
 

So true. so so true. I’m actually pretentious enough to enjoy listening to Christmas Jazz while drinking brandy. My cover is blown.


I hope that you now realise that any activity undertaken by Whites is an attempt to establish a status that they don’t deserve and perpetuate a superior position in society that is no no way shape or form attributable to ambition, work and perseverance, and has its basis in “the exploitation mannnn!”, and that no one actually likes Jazz unless they are Black.


James is a biznitch!


 

I’m depressed that you’re drivel is on every other comment now. Won’t you go away and annoy a different blog?


er…”YOUR” rather…and that shows how blue I am that you are a posting on this site!


 
 
 
 

I do it with 70s soul music; especially soundtracks:

Superfly, Shaft, Black Caesar, Shaft…


 

“They will quickly tell you about how they don’t listen to “Commercial Hip Hop” (aka music that black people actually enjoy), and that they much prefer “Classic Hip Hop.””

I just had this argument the other day with a blond girl. She says American clubs don’t play good hip hop. I said what, like Snoop, Dr. Dre, Biggie, Tupac? Her response: OMG, you call that hip hop? Me: Ohh so you listen to hip hop that only white people listen to!

I like Southern hip hop! Give me some Luda, Lil Jon, T.I so I can actually dance and not stand and sway!


The salient point of this conversation is really the contempt expressed for the authors musical preferences. This indicates that the young woman was engaged in an act of “negative affirmation”. NA is about enhancing your self-esteem by denigrating others. This being the case we are really dealing with social snobbery and this is not a phenomenon that can in any way by deemed to be racially exclusive to Whites, or, indeed exclusively expressed in the patronage of Blacks by Whites. As an example we have only to look at the late Joe Strummer, a Jewish member of the social elite who spent his entire career masquerading as a member of the White English underclass. Indeed, prior to the nineteen eighties far from having any interest in Black culture (unlike the White working-class who embraced Ska), the White middle-class intelligentsia were engaged in intense competition to appear as proletarian as possible. Obscurantist elitism is not a White phenomenon: why is it being discussed on a blog about White people?


“this is not a phenomenon that can in any way by deemed to be racially exclusive to Whites”

It is not written anywhere on this site that these habits and customs are exclusive to whites.


“It is not written anywhere on this site that these habits and customs are exclusive to whites”

Okay! Let me rephrase, “This is not a phenomenon that can in any way be deemed to be significantly more evident among Whites thahn it is among any other groups”

If we now apply your degree of semantic rigidity to this blog title, we will find that “Stuff White People Like” now encompasses anything ever done by any White person at any time. Things like, eating chicken, wearing shoes and taking a shit on a full bowel for example.


OMG!!! You like, Totally sound like Ignatius Reilly…

Live with your mom, too?


OMFG Siofra! You are an elite white person because you mentioned Ignatius Reilly. Bonus points for not mentioning the book he appears in!

(Yes, yes. I am an even more elite white person for called her / him on it.)


Elite?

“for called her” is a grammar error.

I’m more elite than you.


Oh oh, and the proper form should be “for having called her”…yes?


Would it be more elite or more SWPL to admit that it’s one of the books I have in my bookcase and simply haven’t gotten round to finish reading yet? Even if it has now moved to my bedstand?


Nondescript Person on December 6, 2008 at 4:48 am

I think a simple ‘Yes’ will do.


 
 
 
 

I’m trying to figure out if that book (I guess it would be capitulation to mention it now) is SWPL for Dummies, or maybe SWPL a reissued classic with a book jacket designed by Shepard Fairey…


 
 
 
 
 
 
 

“All white people believe that they prefer listening to jazz over watching television”

You have an exceptional ability to make sweepingly inaccurate and patently absurd generalisations Christian. Very few Black, White, or Asian people like Jazz. It’s a niche market. Jazz is not a “Black” musical phenomenon. Some people really do like Jazz and some of these people happen to be White. These people include the unashamedly racist poet Philip Larkin. Your unconvincing attempts to shoehorn this into the one-trick pony which is your comedic oeuvre is laughable.

To conclude from the observation that the majority of people who follow Hip-Hop, in whichever of its nauseating guises it presents itself, means that Black people do not like this genre, might have a fig-leaf of credibility if it were not for the fact that in a country with an overwhelming White majority, I think you will find that every musical genre is disproportionally subscribed to by the majority ethnic group…duhhh! My limited college retail experience in music stores does point out one racial preference that seems quite clear. Black people have virtually no interest in the more demanding, and ultimately more rewarding, musical forms.


Humor is not to be scrutinized, it’s to be laughed at.


 

Are you aware of that you start by writing “You have an exceptional ability to make sweepingly inaccurate and patently absurd generalisations Christian” and then you end with “Black people have virtually no interest in the more demanding, and ultimately more rewarding, musical forms”?


That’s a sweepingly accurate statement Olle. Is English your first language?


Olle’s right: you’re sound like a hypocrite.


and Ollie said it kinda funny


 

I’m not a hypocrite because my opinion is based on credible evidence. Christian’s opinion is based on the slanted analysis of a biased sample. I probably do sound like a hypocrite to people who are of above average stupidity.


You’re a douche and you’re also not the smartest person here. But congrats on your vocab! GUFFAW!


 

Christian…………..the new klan……lol

for a religion spanned from inclusion its amazing how incredibly exclusive many people make it. The Christian religion I know rarely has a big church and a denomination, and usually serves the public with no other intention than to serve others

No need for international trips abroad or political endorsement. I suppose they just think we should love god first ourselves second and our fellow man

go figure…….lol


 

You can justify it by comparing yourself to Christian Lander all you want. And defending your actions, while insulting those who call you on your mistakes (questioning our English, our “level of stupidity”), doesn’t change the fact that we know you’re a smart but confused individual screaming for an identity of an intellectual on Stuff White People Like. Funny but sad. :)


“You can justify it by comparing yourself to Christian Lander all you want”

I can and I do. Whatever makes you think that low-brow disputations are symptomatic of a desire for intellectual kudos sonny?


 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Correct again, however I am not really into any of these genres.. well I do like to listen to Jazz every now and then with a glass of red wine =P

But commercial rap is really really really shit.


 

What can I say, it’s true about hip-hop. There was some cool stuff back then, but this mainstream shit is just that: absolute shit, and I am dumbfounded to this day as to how it has become so popular.


 

christian, have you addressed white people’s love for their large, catalogued collections of bootlegged live performances? in the jazz realm, you’re not a real white person unless you can name that tune, every performer on each instrument, the year and venue. and preferably hum a few choicer licks.


 

Ahhhhh get out of my head!!! Or stop reading my diary, whichever you’re doing. CUT IT OUT


 

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