White people have always been renowned for having ridiculously large music collections. So when file sharing gave white people a chance to acquire all the music they ever wanted, it felt as though it was an earned right and not a privilege.
When (not if) you see a white male with a full iPod, ask him if all of his music is legal. If he does not immediately launch into a diatribe about his right to pirate music, you might have to nudge him a bit by saying “do you think that’s right?” The response will be immediate and uniform.
He will likely rattle off statistics about how most musicians don’t make any money from albums, it all comes from touring and merchandise. So by attending shows, he is able to support the musicians while simultaneously striking a blow against multinational corporations. He will proceed to walk you through the process of how record labels are set up to reward the corporation and fundamentally rob the artist of their rights, royalties and creativity. Prepare to hear the name Steve Albini a lot.
Advanced white people will also talk about how their constant downloading of music makes them an expert who can properly recommend bands to friends and co-workers, thus increasing revenues and exposure. So in fact, their “illegal” activities are the new lifeblood of the industry.
When they have finished talking, you must choose your next words wisely. It is considered rude to point out the simple fact that they are still getting music for free. Instead you should say: “Wow, I never thought of it like that. You know a lot about the music industry. What bands are you listening to right now? Who is good?”
This sentence serves two functions: it helps to reassure the white person that they are your local “music expert,” something they prize. Also, it lets them feel as though they have convinced you that their activities are part of a greater social cause and not simple piracy.
If you bring up this issue with white person who says “nah bro, I don’t give a shit, Dave Matthews has enough money as it is.” You are likely dealing with wrong kind of white person.
In the even more rare situation where someone says “it’s all paid for, and it’s all transferred from vinyl.” You have found an expert level white person and must treat the situation carefully. 
Because of the availability of music online, a very strict social hierarchy has been created within white culture whereby someone with a large MP3 collection is considered “normal,” a large CD collection is considered to be “better,” and a person with a large vinyl collection is recognized as “elite.”
These elite white people abhor the fact that music piracy has made their B-sides, live performances, and bootlegs available to the masses. Their entire life’s work has been stripped of its rarity in terms of both object and sound on the record. The best thing you can say to them is: “vinyl still sounds better.”
However, it is recommended that you do not let this conversation drag much longer. If you let them continue talking to you they are likely to spend hours talking to you about bands you’ve never heard of and providing you with a weekly mix CD of rarities that you do not want.
Stuff White People Like 
genius
This is so true!!!
Hey! #3
Great blog, but Mexicans made music piracy socially acceptable long before the Internet could only support MIDI. Indeed, lore has it that copies of Edison’s “Mary Has a Little Lamb” were on the streets of Mexico City before his tinfoil could cool.
i’m glad to see that you haven’t started slacking on the blog because of the book deal. well done!
fifth
Well, well, where are we going to end, boy?
Well, it is true that Mexicans are more likely to be into piracy (also Chinese, Russians and all non-white people). What makes illegal downloading of mp3s unique is that it has crossed over to what white people like. White people are known for their respect of property rights. The fact that they are willing to forgo this in the name of music is remarkable.
Mix CD’s are sooooo 1998.
umm…. where does one find this so called “free” music?
(For research sake of course……..)
true get some records and your set
– http://www.anythingblack.wordpress.com
White people respect property rights, lguerrrr? You obviously never heard of Manifest Destiny.
good one!
vinyl sounds better 🙂
Does checking out the CD’s for free from a library count? Of course, I also download off the internet, but not very often.
http://mantivity.blogspot.com
so true LOL people bragging abou their record and CD collection gets annoying
THE ONLY NOT TRUE PART IS,
a lot of the white people i know actually buy music off iTunes – EW
– http://www.anythingblack.wordpress.com
but it’s true..vinyl DOES sound better.
http://stuffcollegepeoplelike.wordpress.com
>>These elite white people abhor the fact that music piracy has made their B-sides, live performances, and bootlegs available to the masses. Their entire life’s work has been stripped of it’s rarity in terms of both object and sound on the record. The best thing you can say to them is: “vinyl still sounds better.”
#94: Obsession with established punctuation conventions? The second sentence should use “its” in place of “it’s”.
I want to meet an elite music white person… I need those mixes
“You are a connaisseur, elite white person, for vinyl is warmer.”
John Cusack is “elite”…
Once again, I’ve been cut to the core.
At least I’m an expert white person. Thanks for another great update.
I feel like this blog is becoming less and less about “stuff white people like” and more about popular societal trends in general.
Earlier posts were more spot-on at exposing white culture. Lately, however, I have just seen posts about “stuff people like” of any race.
hey, gustavo arellano! good to see you aren’t threatened by the competition. Where’s your book deal??
p.s. for those that don’t know, gustavo arellano writes a syndicated alt-weekly column called “ask a mexican” – kind of a “stuff mexican people like” in paper form.
Is it just me or is this site less about white people and more about “stuff liberal college educated people like”, as snarked about by clever self white dude. A lot of bay area people could be described by this blog, white or otherwise.
Rock on! I never realized I could be considered elite, but the thousands of CDs and hundreds of vintage vinyl attest otherwise. (I always thought I was just a music nerd.)
This blog is the bomb.
White people also tend to be pretty critical about when one uses “it’s” instead of “its”.
I’m just saying…
I listen to NPR.
@ Mike:
That’s the joke. They are the “right” kind of white people.
Here’s another thing they say: “I payed full price when I downloaded Radiohead’s new album.”
http://stuffwhiteparentslike.com
i like classical music 😦
What’s vinyl?
i am also glad you didnt slack off after the book deal! :O
McCain hates geniuses.
he’s right. we’re so lame.
McCain hates music vinyl.
You know what this white person likes? Correcting punctuation. (I know, I know… but I’m going to do it anyway.)
A phrase or sentence in quotes (even if it’s a complete sentence) should end with a comma rather than a period if the sentence continues afterward. There should also be a comma before the first quotation mark.
For example:
If you bring up this issue with white person who says, “nah bro, I don’t give a shit, Dave Matthews has enough money as it is,” you are likely dealing with wrong kind of white person.
Love,
The wrong kind of white person.
PS: I’m excited to hear about the book, but disappointed that the site hasn’t been updating as regularly.
McCain hates music piracy.
Oh God, Christian, just stop it, okay? You’re too good at this and it makes me want to vomit.
Here’s a nugget I heard which may please you on a number of levels:
INT. MUSIC STORE – DAY
The local independently-owned record store. TOM browses the dance music section for new DJ Shadow discs, pleased to see his joint with Mos Def is finally available on disc.
He overhears a tall WHITE in a hoody, extolling knowledgeably to a YOUNG ASIAN GIRL who listens raptly/attentively/uncomprehendingly.
WHITE
Yeah, see, records are always better than cds if you can get them. Vinyl is a million bits, whereas CDs are only a thousand, so…
INT. WHITE MAN’S HEAD – DAY
The YOUNG ASIAN GIRL flees in embarrassment, unable to contain the moist patch on her trouser front any longer. In her wake she leaves a small piece of paper with her phone number on it.
INT. RECORD STORE – DAY
YOUNG ASIAN GIRL
(bored)
Uh huh…?
After spending my younger white person days pirating around stealing music I have since taken the higher rout becoming an elite white person with a large digital music collection of all legal music. Good live touring bands today such as Umphrey’s McGee, Moe., and Sound Tribe Sector 9 put out soundboard recordings of their live shows (much better than vinyl crappy sound quality) and charge a fee of 9.99 or so for over 3 hours of live music – not too shabby of a deal. With Itunes making it easier than ever to obtain digital music legally I think its about time we all stopped stealing music.
First, it probably took you years of watching white people in their natural enviroment to come up with your first 40-50 posts. That means that trying to come up with ‘another one a day’ is simply not going to happen. You can’t do it. Accept this. You can’t fly by flapping your arms real fast, and you accept that, right? Can’t lift your car with one hand by ‘really wanting to’, and you can’t come up with a quality article every day.
Two, everyone ‘steals’ music, and that includes non-whites. If the actual creators of the music recieved the money, perhaps we would have some incentive to avoid ‘stealing’ music. However, most everybody recognizes that the organized monopoly that runs music as the pack of thieves they are. And we do not care that they ‘deserve’ money for, what really? Any idiot can burn CDs… as the piracy industry has shown. And the bands played the music, so I’m really at loss to what these special, wonderfull music companies actually DO, besides jack-up the cost of music more than 10 times.
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2165403/music-downloads-bpi-mobile
Haha, is that High Fidelity?
Yes! I love it! My ipod is almost 85% full!! Take that fellow whiteys!!
Go McBush 08!!!
also you can establish much more abstract theoretical conceptions then that: free as in freedom, copyleft is right, whilst innovation should be encouraged, freedom of expression and thought find themselves in frequent clash with intellectual property.
Don’t forget that everyone’s taste in music is proudly self-considered to be “eclectic”, even if it merely includes both country AND western.
I’m a white person who hasn’t ever downloaded an mp3 for free or otherwise. I don’t own a single vinyl record. I have lots of CD’s. They sound better and I’m not out $400.00 when my ipod drops out of my top pocket and into the toilet. Then I’d be stuck with an ipod swimming in pee and still attached to my head by 2 little white wires. What do you do? Pull out the earplugs and flush the whole thing or do you stand up and have the pee-glazed ipod slap you in the groin?
http://11yeargazette.wordpress.com/
Awwww… this is the first lame one I’ve read. Get back to being funny!
Lame.
I agree with this.
http://www.IGotUGGs.com
These guys at
http://www.jtcinc.blogspot.com
are getting great reviews. In particular, check out this hilarious post:
http://jtcinc.blogspot.com/2006/03/my-evening-with-anna.html
The Albini reference was genius.
you dumb hippy. analog vinyl sounds better than digital quality. this is not debatable. (i believe) it has something to do with the extreme highs and lows that are lost in the digital compression. if your gear sucks than thats a different story…
These guys at
http://www.jtcinc.blogspot.com
are getting great reviews. In particular, check out this hilarious post:
http://jtcinc.blogspot.com/2006/03/my-evening-with-anna.html
One thing white people certainly like is themselves. Very much. White people would like another few hundred years of the best affirmative action program in history. White white white.
http://www.jtcinc.blogspot.com
Check it out!
getting great reviews. In particular, check out this hilarious post:
http://jtcinc.blogspot.com/2006/03/my-evening-with-anna.html
Hilarious and quite true.
same here man, how big is your cd collection?
I could not disagree more. White people enjoy spending money and telling people how they appreciate spending money on the albums.
http://makingitrain.blogspot.com
That guy already has a book out. His column may seem anti-Mexican but it’s really anti-European American.
You’re close, but not quite there….
It’s not just
“vinyl still sounds better”
it’s
“analog recording with tube amplifiers/preamps gives you the most accurate recreation of the natural sound”
— this brings you into the rarefied world of not just vinyl, but direct to disc vinyl recordings and the serious audiophile world of finding (and often rebuilding) tube (as opposed to transistor) amplifiers. That’s elite!
An eclectic and catholic taste in music is essential for elite status… ideally, one selects one’s CDs so that you don’t duplicate your vinyl (and it’s a sad day when the number of CDs exceeds the number of vinyl lps in your collection), and, of course, your mp3s become a combination of (1) transferred vinyl (real prizes), (2) transferred CDs, and (3) things “otherwise acquired” (i.e. downloaded) that represent things you don’t have or can’t find on CD or vinyl.
The serious white music person will have many obscure items and alternate performances and – if they’re into classical music – at least 3-4 different performances of key works like Beethoven and Mozart symphonies, string quartets, and piano works. And Jazz — lots of jazz, ranging from early obscure dixieland transferred from wax cylinders to cool jazz and modern stuff.
More, more, it’s an insatiable lust!
No, they are the “Wrong kind of White people” and comprised of 50% non-Whites anway.
find out why your gay friends are cooler than you.
Stuff Queer People Like
http://stuffqueerpeoplelike.wordpress.com
Russian Jews and Chinese are huge into piracy.
Israel was recently placed on the US trade representative’s priority watch list for violations of intellectual property rights. Israel’s official inclusion on the list will not entail any penalty, sanctions or restrictions (of course) but calls on Israel to improve.
Eep! John Cusack! I love John Cusack.
(sorry – it was a surprise to see his picture here! Tho it would be interesting to find out if he’s among stuff we like. I know I do, and I’m white… but I’m probably the wrong kind of white)
Vinyl is timeless.
Israel’s domestic markets continue to be overwhelmed by piracy. Israel continues to be a key locus of optical media piracy, producing, importing and transshipping pirate product in quantities that dwarf its modest legitimate domestic demand.
Fellow whiteys….
Stop getting your panties in a bunch.
Your taking yourselves way too seriously with the whole “I’m white and I don’t do that” crap. Get a chuckle or mark the spot labeled “x” on your browser.
The wrong type of White person uses the term, “nah bro”…that’s for sure.
Hey, Gustavo, I bought your book, ¡Ask a Mexican!, and I lend it out to everyone I know so that they don’t have to buy it! 🙂 But that’s not bootlegging, right?
http://davidrodriguez.us
It’s titled ¡Ask a Mexican! Very funny book!
http://davidrodriguez.us
direct disc vinyl. tube amplifiers. word.
There’s a weekly tiangi mercado in Oaxaca city that’s unreal. In addition to the expected collections of narcocorridos, Juan Gabriel, Led Zeppelin, and Jean Claude Van Damme, some stands have selections of CDs and DVDs that would rival any white person’s favorite college town record store or art house cinema. Another one would qualify as the best classical music store I’ve ever seen.
For whatever reason I rarely saw American expats shopping there, but most are older than the white people this blog is about. They buy all their food at the Soriana, Gigante is just a little too Mexican.
I hate urban vinyl snobs…
brilliant.
most forms of elite status involve being a nerd at something…
except of course for exceptionally pretty women, their elite status is the result of the genetic lottery, well, perhaps they’re beauty nerds in taking care of their looks and fashion nerds in dressing well….
I have a huge collection of vinyl. Mostly classic country (stuff that is still not available on mp3), with a lot of big band, Eastern European, and classical music.
My university’s paper even did a story on my collection….does that qualify me as ultra-elite?
Hilarious, specially the part of MP3s, CDs and Vinyls being the elite. And the “Hi Fidelity” picture of John Cusack, priceless.
http://www.poeticmotherlover.com
Vinyl is cool if you like snap, crackle, pop with your tunes. Many’s the time I’d break out a bowl of the old Rice Krispies and munch while jamming on my MP3 player just for old time’s sake.
But anyone that says the sound quality of vinyl, the virtues of analog notwithstanding, is superior to CD is just nuts.
I’m talking about mass produced LPs & 45s. It was not uncommon to see bits of lint or paper embedded in the record. Surface blemishes that were visual to the naked eye were very common and blemishes that manifest themselves to your ear on the very first needle drop were par for the course.
Most true audiophiles I know got the record onto tape– preferably reel-to-reel– first time out of the album sleeve.
Steve Albini’s famous essay articulates why certain white people won’t ‘sell out,’ even if they’ve never read the damned essay.
When I was in Mexico last December, I wanted to buy some Mexican t-shirts for my sons. I couldn’t find them at the mercados or tianguis because they were all selling bootleg NFL, Abercromie & Fitch, Hilfiger, or rock band t-shirts. I wanted some t-shirts that had a Mexican theme, but everyone wants American stuff white people like. 🙂 I finally found some Mexican t-shirts in Coyoacán.
🙂
McCain hates Ferraro, Wright, Obama and smiley faces.
“providing you with a weekly mix CD of rarities that you do not want.”
Oh, but who doesn’t want that?
Clander,
Perhaps imminent news of your book deals has sapped your creative energies. Hire freelancers now to keep your blog going …
However, mixtapes never go out of style.
White people like moby
It’s like the VHS of music technology, I can’t say I blame him.
Music wants to be free 😉
“He will proceed to walk you through the process of how record labels are set up to reward the corporation and fundamentally rob the artist of their rights, royalties and creativity.”
I guess it never occurs to most White People to BUY the vinyl or CD directly from the artist at his website or performance, cutting out the robber middleman. I may have become some sort of White Music Ninja by scoring two autographed Diane Reeves CDs after her concert last night. Ninjas hate pirates (and love autographs).
You seemed to have learned from the entry on white people and travel by attempting to drop a local phrase, but to better impress white people with the depth of your familiarity with local culture next time, just say ‘tianguis’ which actually is a market (so it’s redundant to say tianuis mercado), and Tianguis are found in various other cities as well.
thanks for bringing up Oaxaca – an entry should be made for Oaxaca – white people love Oaxaca, but the wrong kind of white people, of course, love Cancun.
But the American Indians never considered themselves as “owning” the land…
And everyone else is right about Geraldine being an opportunistic bitch.
Just one more reason for me to hate McCain.
Por supuesto!
i use i-tunes – i pay for it 🙂
stuffcollegestudentslike.blogspot.com
i fear for the day when they start asking what’s a cd!
god, i’m getting old!
A true elite doesn’t listen to MP3’s, they listen to FLAC and other lossless formats. However, that’s got nothing to do with white people, just us music quality snobs.
This blog could describe most urban whites under the age of 45. And a lot of urban whites over the age of 45. The white people it doesn’t apply to–well, they’re not reading it.
See #50 (Irony.)
iPods suck, anyhow. I prefer the authentic, real, warm, rich sound of a tube amplifier — made by an obscure, independently owned manufacturer in the United States, the UK or Japan — over the cold, plastic sound of Chinese solid state electronics.
advanced white people
that’s a hell of a goal
Holy Crap, I’m soo brutally white… 60 GB’s on my portable HD, haven’t a clue how much is actually legal. I’d be surprised if half is.
And yes, I’ve embraced the conundrum, justifying my theft with comments like “Man, its Asia’s Astra album, would I ever conceivably buy such a CD?”… or… “I hate Ted Nugent’s politics, but I love Wang-bang-sweet-pun-tang!!!”
I know, intimately, a vinyl record enthusiast with over five thousand vinyl records, he’s just made the leap to digital music (for his car) and his busy recording vinyl to .wav and then to 320 kpbs. It consumes all his time. He said he can actually tell the difference between 192 kbps and 320 kbps in his car… He wonders how anyone can listen to digital music with anything less than that compression rate. (and yes, he’s fish-belly white as well).
Therefore, I feel even better knowing the music I’m pirating is sub-par and probably should be free anyway. Although, my whiteness guilts me into paying for World music artists, its a monetary confessional, additionally Senegalese guitar players need all the financial support they can get.. and I really owe them for my colonial white-man guilt.
Does that mean a “Stuff Mexicans Like” is in the works…?
this is a funny one!
although that person commenting about Dave Matthews probably wouldn’t have used such nice proper grammar.
Expert level ghostface^
Here’s another think white people like: pretending our nation (and australia) weren’t based on genocide.
Which is it Clander? Do you want me to be able to afford a Prius, take my Asian girlfriend out to trendy lunch spots and buy my music too?
aren’t tubes all made in the former USSR now?
wrong, you are not white, your name is Esteban. Die.
That figures a non-White is sharing an anti-White book around. That thing was actually my library’s collection. It doesn’t take long to see the clever anti-White racism it contains.
Wrong, you are either not white or you are the wrong kind of white, your name is Esteban. Die.
Nope. Beta.
and what’s the deal with airline food
amirite?
There are some White people that like visiting the primitive amerindian culture in Oaxaca, but they are mostly baby-boomer old farts.
Actually, the right kind of White people bypass primitives and head straight for the Riviera Maya and all the awesome resorts.
Mexican “culture” and poverty-ridden villages can be found in the USA today, there’s no mystery to it.
Isn’t “oaxaca” a hotbed of corruption and violence lately?
Only the wrong kinds of Whites think ‘oaxaca’ is “neat” or “cultural”.
Look you little Spic-cocksucker, why are you even on a White blog?
Just because Cortez conquered the entire Aztec nation with 500 Whites, doesn’t mean you have to cry about “indians”. Why don’t you mestizos just move to Peru and set up shop? Nobody is stopping you. Oh, I forgot…..you want to be around Whites, follow Whites. Your mere presence in the USA proves that you gave no problem with Manifest Destiny. Go to Peru and live your anti-White dream. Plenty of open land!!!
It’s not funny to a White person. It’s just brown propaganda.
He could be a Spaniard, and therefore White, but I doubt it. More than likely a Mestizo.
Important history for Whites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casta
Music and TV should be free!
http://www.jonesview.wordpress.com
yes. i have actually convinced myself that since the way i steal music is inconvenient (via mp3 blog) that i am not hurting anyone.
on an unrelated note, last week i had the flu and watched a lot of t.v. (congratulating myself for acting like a “normal” person only when i was miserable) and there was this show about beach resorts.
resorts are both white and totally about not having to truly endure the horrors of another culture. it would be a good topic, i think.
I was thinking the same thing — that white people like the proper use of “its” and “you’re.” That’s just between you and me — not between you and I.
The North American continent was vastly uninhabited. The Indians were defeated by superior invaders. It wasn’t a ‘genocide’ as much as a serious ass-whooping
Once the Indians started raping White women and stealing White pioneer kids, there was no treating them with kid gloves.
I love how some of these revisionist historians try to make it seem as if all the brave Indians were all sitting around sharing a peace pipe or something!!! Um, what is scalping?
You are RASICST!!!
If somebody is, say 12.5% non white (black maybe) are they black? If so, if you’re 12.5% white, would that make you white? Why are Obama and Tiger woods black? Are they black to black people or just to white people? My wife is 25% Chinese, 3.125% black, and 71.875% white. Is she black, white, or Chinese? If I typed in the Spanish version of my middle name so that I wouldn’t be named anonymous, foes that make me non-white?
Damn, everything about this was true. Damn.
This is stuff White people like knowing.
Important history for Whites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casta
If someone has “one drop” of black blood then they are black It’s called the one-drop rule.
The fact that the name Lars Ulrich hasn’t come up proves this site is really not “White” per se.
This is the first one I think you’ve gotten wrong. White yuppies like buying individual tracks off of ITunes for use on their IPod, thus establishing 1) their trendiness (from using two Apple products), 2) their moral superiority over those who steal tracks off of Shareaza and Gnutella, and 3) their willingness to spend money to support artists they like, making them full-fledged patrons of the arts.
MUSIC PIRACY is more NON-WHITE than it is White.
Duh!!
“we don’t have this problem (i.e. gays, HIV) in our country”
LOL!!!
He said it at a press conference.
You are my hero.
134th. from oakland
SUGGESTION FOR SOMETHING WHITE PEOPLE LIKE:
BLOGS!
SUGGESTION FOR STUFF WHITE PEOPLE LIKE: BLOGS!!!
I bought a few Pet Shop Boys songs that way. Domino Dancing is worth paying $0.99 for.
What’s an Ipod? The old buckaroo doesn’t want it if it has that there comptuer stuff in it.
OMG How do you know me? Who’s been telling you about me? It was my foster son, wasn’t it? The little sneak…
Yes, I have a large mp3 collection, a giant CD collection, and a humongous vinyl collection. I still buy stuff on vinyl today. And every single note and lyric is paid for. I would rather eat ground glass than steal music.
And if you don’t watch out I’ll be talking to you for hours about Sky Cries Mary, Okkervil River, Camper Van Beethoven and Soul Whirling Somewhere…
And I’ve really wondered if people actually listen to the CDs I make for them… And don’t get me started on how great satellit radio is!
It is generally true that vinyl sounds better, but it has to be an analog recording. If it’s a digital recording it’s just an mp3 wax pancake that scratches and warps and takes up room on the shelf. To transfer analog vinyl to the iPod is almost a travesty, but I have had my eye on a turntable out that will do just that right on my Mac.
I’ve never heard of this blog before, I found it by accident googling some lyrics to an old Monroes song but I think I’m gonna take a look around…
peace
Does anyone regardless of ethnicity buy music and if so who makes music worth buying and why buy other peoples music its so easy to create your own.
Really advanced white people like Gov Spitzer abandon music piracy and make the move to white slavery.
My god, are you real? There really is one of you out there.
Im going to start calling opportunistic men “bitches”, because its not fair that only women can get the privilage of being “bitches” when they are ambitious, so im assuming men are bitches too because they do the same thing. Am I right?
While its true us whites murdered tons of indians, of all kinds, aztecs and native americans alike, it wasnt really the bullet that took them down, it was actually are terrible diseases that took them out. They did not have immunities because their society as a whole was fairly clean and sanitary. It is actually the white europeans, who would crowd into cities (of about 10 square miles) of hundreds of thousands of people, and their fecal matter, everyday, with terrible drainage, and littered with homeless people, who had to live on the streets next to the fecal matter and would thus become sick, those european people who considered themselves modern, were really more primative then the natives of the new world. Blaming the indian massacres on whites is fine, but the complete “genocide” of the indians were at the hands of the indians themselves, because they had never become industrialized and would thus not have terrible living conditions that would repress their own citizens to such terrible lives that diseases would develop. Its all evolution, and who got what when. Im sure the indians were much more healthy people then europeans, But europeans were much more technilogically advanced, so which would you rather be? living in a hut for 75 years, or living in a large city for 50?
This entire music piracy problem is all Bush’s fault! He’s the worst President ever! Impeach Bush!
So I’m a ‘better’-going-on-to ‘elite’ white person.
Pretty good for someone who isn’t even white.
Too bad my last purchase wasn’t in vinyl form. Must be detrimental to gaining that elite white status.
http://g-spot-tornado.blogspot.com/2008/03/buy-bye.html
Unfortunately, Portnoy is correct, the traditional white view is expressed in the “one drop” rule: any amount of black ancestry whatsoever makes one “black.”
There is, however, an important corollary, which doesn’t have a name, but might be called the “if you can pass, you’re white” rule. That is, once black ancestry is sufficiently attenuated that no one would suspect to look at you that you are not white, you have implicit permission to move somewhere no one knows you have any black ancestry and pass for white, if you so choose.
This happened all the time, especially with the off-spring of white fathers and octoroon mistresses (who pretty much looked white anyway). Some moved to Europe (France was popular for the French speakers from New Orleans), others went North or West.
Within a few generations after the first passer, as long as all the spouses the descendants married were fully white, and no distinctively negroid features showed up, the family really is white, usually with no memory of any “black” ancestry.
When discovered (there was a film about this not long ago) it can be quite a shock to some people who have thought themselves very respectably white!
Reel to reel take has advantages and disadvantages. Direct to disc vinyl is better, imho. DAT is a travesty.
To really get the difference between analog and digital recording, tube amplifiers are key.
Another spot-on entry. Good work.
Funny!
A good friend a number of years ago figured out a way through his computer, and genuis how to transfer his large vinyl collection over to his ipod. He wanted to do it w/o the help of expensive software and what not.
Clander, you’re still right on.
Suggestion for stuff white people like: Stuff White People Like
Brilliant! Dave Matthews fans really are the wrong kind of white people. Quite possibly the lowest rung on the white ladder.
Dave Matthews fans also tend to wear a lot of faux vintage shirts. Man, this blog is spot on!
Direct disc vinyl. Tubes.
Problem with most of the transfer to iPod turntables is the cartridges are FAR below your standards… even bad enough to damage delicate recordings… and will not take really top quality cartridges.
Enjoyment of high quality vinyl does require an excellent turntable/cartridge combination as well as tube amplification.
For those of us who grew up in the high fidelity/stereo high fidelity era, this is all pretty much obvious, but the difference can be astonishing to those who grew up with digital recording, digital amplifiers, etc.
Most people today, even white people, never experience real audiophile quality sound reproduction.
Forget the book deal… I wanna know when they license the the SWPL brand to a soundtrack CD.
The funny part being that Steve Albini would probably hate most of the people who drop his name if he ever met them.
Tell me about it. Nothing offends my white sensibilities more than when I read a post by some Wal-Mart-shopping, Republican-voting Christian, who couldn’t tell you the differences among cabernet, pinot noir, and merlot, that goes something like this:
“Jethro and Cletus are taking there trucks to the mountains to go huntin’. Their going to be gone all day. Tomorrow, though, your going to have to listen to them talk about them queers they shot. Oh, and bring some beer from you fridge.”
If these idiots would stop wasting their time by praying to Jay-Zuss! and maybe take a course at the local arts college maybe the rest of the white race would catch up.
Oh, and stop homeschooling your kids! Unless you are a qualified teacher, you are only imparting your ignorance onto the next generation.
How Insane Is John McCain loves music piracy.
geez, it’s like shooting fish in a barrel ain’t it?
speared, again, and pls get your motherf***ing blog out of my motherf***ing iPod.
White guy true story: I was paid MORE THAN THE FACE VALUE OF THE TICKETS for my collection of about 30 TICKET STUBS to “vintage” 70s arena prog rock shows. I threw in an Asia t-shirt (xxl) ’cause he seemed like a nice guy…
but don’t we all love pirating music?
-non white guy
and musicians want to get paid!
I think we do;.
http://r.yuwie.com/sxipper
Wait just a damn minute here. We know from previous posts that White People love indie rock, short for independent rock, or free from the constraints of the evil multi-national major labels that hoard profits, stifle creativity and suck souls. Therefore, White People who illegally pirate their tunes are not striking a blow against the corporations, but are in fact ripping off the obscure artists that they claim to love, even if the only love them to get the upper hand over their friends who like indie rockers with i-Tunes commercials. Justify that you Honky Mo-Fos.
Hell, yeah, it’s “High Fidelity.” And I’d appreciate it if Mr. Lander would give me just a little shout-out – I brought up that movie and Mr. Cusack as treasures of supreme whiteness back in my comment on dinner parties. Can I get a little love here?
That is mostly so but white peoples act like they’re doing humanity a favor when the rest of know we’re all just being thiefs.
Music should be free. Period.
America and the rest of the world puts too much into entertainment. Stars have more power than politicians, and the general populous could give a shit less what happens in governmental decisions.
In the end, I think it’s safe to say that simply throwing a single race out there is a sad continuance of the past.
Race has nothing to do with it.
Music is music.
Humans are humans.
And if we can get something for free, regardless of if it had a price to begin with, it’s FREE. There for…
GANK.
Hardly clean or sanitary (Montezuma’s Revenge is evidence of that), but they had immunities to their diseases just as we had immunities to ours. Our diseases were just meaner and nastier.
And you forgot to put cheese on the ‘stuff white people like’ pics. XD
I still play records but I don’t call them “vinyl”. Actually the old shellac 78s sound better yet and are the only hep way to listen to Louis Armstrong and Count Basie.
Yup, I have quite a “shellac” collection.
wtf?
I like the political discussion above – there should be a “stuff white people like political blog”
this entry had a lot of what “long island guidos” like – pretty hilarious if you’re familiar with the type
http://gentlesouls.wordpress.com/2008/03/18/the-long-island-guido/
THIS BLOG HAS OFFICIALLY “JUMPED THE SHARK”THERE IS NO GENIUS HERE ANYMORE
The human ear can only hear sound frequencies from 20-20,000 Hz…which a CD captures. People who claim vinyl is better is just an old white person who invested a lot of money into their record collection and don’t want to see it become obsolete. Well I got bad news for ya! It’s obsolete…stop holding on to the past and get with the 21st Century. Only DJ’s have use for vinyl.
“Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.”
“The Netherlands and Belgium are more crowded than Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.”
“Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.”
“What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?”
“How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?”
“And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?”
“But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.”
“They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.”
“Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.”
I would have said so too with San Francisco, but this post was hilarious, true and “insightful” (ok, not really insightful, but well…you know).
Keep writing guys. They can’t all be winners 😉
STUFF QUEER PEOPLE LIKE
http://stuffqueerpeoplelike.wordpress.com
Saying the word “piracy” is using weasel words and confuses the issue: it presuposses something is wrong with it, and it influences you to charge the issue with negative connotations.
I personally prefer the terms “unauthorized copying” or “copyright infrigment”. I don’t think downloading music can be compared with attacking ships and pillaging. It’s ridiculous.
You could even go further and look at it from a positive point of view: call it “Sharing with your neighbour”.
Many schools are banning electronics and music players from even entering the front doors. Find out more crazy stories in public education at http://detentionslip.org.
“advanced white people”????
LOL!!!
How ’bout: “Fuck it, I already PAID for this music”, sometimes two or three times depending on the age of the white person in question… 8-track, vinyl, cassette, and CD. 4 TIMES. HA!!!!
By the way, it is impossible to “steal” music. That’s another weasel word. You can’t steal something abstract. You could go and still a car, for example. A car is a physical thing, you buy it and it is your property. If I go and steal it from you, it will cease being your property. So there.
You could download all the music you want, and make a copy of it to everyone you know, and set up a server and encourage every person on the Internet to download it. But no matter what you do, the artist (or the record label) still holds the copyright.
You do have a reference to a Pixies song as your name though, which should be worth a few points.
This may just be the first time that I have been absolutely nailed by this blog. I feel strangely OK by it.
I’m not an elite, however.
Great blog.
I suggest we also look at what black people like:
1) Crack
2) Hennessey- although they hate the taste, they still drink it because all the rappers do it
3) rap music
4) Chicken wangs
5) Social programs paid for by the working white people. The welfare check is then used to purchase items #1-4.
6) Being loud in public.
7) Complaining about white people, except on the 1st and 15th, because that’s when the welfare check comes.
8) Writing/singing about their African roots, using terms such as “black prince”. I would like to see how long your black prince lasts in the jungles of the congo. Give me a break
9) Hating on the police, pigs, popo, the 5-0, but then calling on them as soon as Jerome starts shooting up the place.
10) Dreadlocks
11) Long jean shorts- Are they shorts or capris buddy?
12) Yelling “excuse me” at the top of thier lungs when they want something. Although they think they are being polite, they are just asking for someone to spit in their food/drink.
13) Menthol cigarettes
14) Blunts
15) Thousand dollar rims on their hundred dollar car.
16) Letting their baby starve, using the food money for #15
17) Bluetooth ear pieces
18) Trying to get ANYTHING for free
19) Attemtping to rationalize every crime committed by a black person. If their is no rationalization, then blame it on the white man
20) Education- attempting to further their education by completing high school and moving on to a four year college – Haha, just kidding.
I am going to get back to work. I gotta work hard, pay my taxes and see it go right into the welfare pool.
Another great excuse to steal this shit. Amen.
the blog is funny but the comments are idiotic esp. the spammers e.g. check out my blog! stuffselfpromotingdouchebagslike.wordpress.com
Very true!
But McCain hates How Insane Is John McCain?
thanks amh
– http://www.anythingblack.wordpress.com
i already had some of those stacked up tho
On the contrary. We’re dicks. When was the last time you heard a woman called a dick?
But my pirated music IS my right! The white race deserves free music! Down with record labels, etc.
Most white people don’t know of Steve anyways, but us elitist underground music snobs do. He and I would probably smash most other white people’s iPods if we saw what lame “Dave Matthews-ish” music was on them.
“Expert level ghostface^”
Oh, hell no – that’s not right at all. LoL!
No, we just chose not to address the screaming crybaby who hasn’t put out “buyable” music in decades.
That is exactly what my white friend told me last friday when I dissed about his ipod collection. Right on the money bro.
well piracy is piracy.. i say it’s still illegal, i large percent of money is always lost due to free downloading sites which makes the entertainment industry die.. err… what the heck.. good music for free? everyone loves it. xD
What up with the commenters today? Did Rush Limbaugh cover SWPL recently or something?
BTW “and providing you with a weekly mix CD of rarities that you do not want.” is a gem – there’s one of these guys in every crowd: the emancipator!
kill yourself. please.
Right on! You TOTALLY know white people!
But, black people love bootleg DVDs.
wtf does ‘european american’ refer to? You mean white people? Here in europe you’re not considered european unless you or your parents were born in europe, and even one generation of being stateside makes you an american.
just like blacks. I’m not african-american, but the guy who drives my cab is.
i would love to hear some White propaganda. Why did you capitalize ‘white’ anyway?
there is nothing wrong with brown propaganda, good lord knows the entire world has had enough white propaganda to last us until the rapture.
Wrong. Asian people enjoy piracy more.
yawn
I’m sorry, this post only applies to white SWEDISH
Ooops. Hit “reply” too soon.
As I was saying, “This post only applies to white SWEDISH people.”
Meant as a joke. Totally killed now that there’s a fragment of this post above.
I am a white person, but I pay for all my music. PLEASE will someone help a white girl out and tell her where to go to get free stuff???
Hilarious! This is what I way to people when they start citing hip indie bands at me in dive bars:
Yeah, I got this awesome vintage vacuum tube amplifier from the ’60’s — it’s a Scott 299C — you’ve heard of them right? It’s all vacuum tubes like in a good guitar amp — it sounds so much richer. Anyway, you hook that up to a good turntable with a proper moving magnet cartridge and it’s just great man — it’s like Hank Mobley and Charles Mingus are there in the room with you. Don’t you just love early Hank Mobley? I spend hours sitting at my Steinway D transcribing that stuff.
I just feel like I’ve outgrown rock, you know? I mean, after my jazz-funk band opened for the Black Eyed Peas in college (I was the guitarist) — before they sold out by hiring Fergie — I figured there was nothing left for me in pop music or rock. It just sounds so . . . uneducated. And Indie is just the same thing with scruffier haircuts, whinier vocals, and poorer production values. I mean, Stravinsky, Villa-Lobos and Ornette Coleman are real indie if you ask me — you’ve heard of them right? I also have these great vinyl recordings of Charlie Christian jamming at Minton’s playhouse back in the early ’40’s when the musicians union banned recording — it’s so great. Thelonius Monk was there too — you can totally tell it’s him, even at that early date. I always said that Christian would have been right up there playing bebop with Charlie Parker if he hadn’t died of TB. And I think Sonny Rollins was every bit as good at thematic development as Beethoven was, at least in his smaller-scale works. And Sonny was improvising! I also think his use of counterpoint is vastly underappreciated — especially with Jim Hall in “The Bridge.” Call me weird, but it remings me so much of Orlando Gibbons’ chamber works. I transcribed a bunch of that for music theory class back in college . . .
. . . I also have an original pressing of “Hot Rats.” As much as I love the man, I think Zappa fucked it up when he remastered it for CD release in the ’90’s — there’s too much compression for my ears, and a weird upper-midrange emphasis. The cool thing with an original pressing through a tube amp is — the signal has never touched a transistor, let alone a microchip! I fucking hate iPods. 198 kilobytes a second? Maybe if you’re a 13-year-old downloading Limp Bizkit who doesn’t even know what a passing sixth chord is.
You can come over some time to check it out if you want . . .
Oh — you downloaded some Arcade Fire bootlegs? That’s cool — my little sister was really into them right after her Green Day phase.
I’ve been told the new Elvis Costello release will be available only in vinyl or by download.
Most of the musicians I know need all the help they can get to keep their art alive.
Dr. B
There’s plenty of day jobs out there for people who want them.
i didnt poop my pants
WTF is right. Not sure this guy realized he was commenting on a site. Looks more like a personal email.
I disagree
Wow. This comment section is really starting to attract the weirdos.
I noticed Christian even wears rectangular glasses like Seth Rogen does and I thought white people were original.
Haha, this is classic and awesome
Looks like someone’s been reading Lonesome Dove!
No it doesn’t. Idiot.
“…the wrong kind of white person.” Sounds like me. Cause I don’t give a shit about Dave Matthews.
I’m thinking YOU might be the Wrong Kind of White.
Wha…?
Go McBush? WRONG KIND OF WHITE.
I am mortified. I grew up thinking I was a unique white kid, turns out this site really has my number. It is simultaneously crushing to my self image and hilariously humbling to know that these are, in fact, the things that white people like. Kudos. (Half of my music is burned from vinyl, the other half…I decline to comment)
you failed to mention christian’s wife had her picture taken with ryan seacrest who appeared in knocked-up. it’s still up on her flickr page.
Corby…I hope that’s just a made up handle, because if it’s your real name, well, that’s just stupid.
http://www.johnmccainisyournewbicycle.com
“He and I”? Come on. Steve Albini would never want to know you, dude. Nor would he ever visit your dork site. You are so sad. I hate that you are even alive.
Are you fucking kidding me with this? OMG. Die.
as a white person, i approve of this blog
Obviously I’m the wrong kind of white person. I don’t give a rats-ass about stealing music.
Fuck the record companies, whiney artists can get bent. They should be greatful I’m even willing to steal their shit, let alone pay for it. Same goes for movies.
Life is short, get it while you can!
Then get a job.
hahahahahahaha you are clearly retarted!
Love this site, it’s so true! I’m a white guy I should know
Part of this posting goes to show that white people like to be first, and as someone else mentioned, gain status through knowledge — first adopters of technology for example (iPhone anyone?) Ironically someone posted that come this posting, this site had “jumped the shark”. This demonstrates that white people like the be the first ones to point out a perceived sudden decline in the quality of a program, or a musicians output — white people like the be the first ones to point out that a musician has “sold out” too.
What’s really interesting is the timetable for when certain ethnic/cultural groups started downloading free music off the internet and how each group’s respective cd sales started taking a hit. It’s pretty evident that the young hip college-age white audience was the first to really get into downloading bigtime at the beginning of the decade with rock/indie act sales taking a nosedive. Interestingly enough hip-hop sales remained as strong as ever back then. Then by the mid decade point, blacks apparently discovered free downloading and hip-hop sales plummeted as well… Now we’re into 2008 and the biggest selling artists are (1) country acts like Toby Keith, Garth Brooks, Carrie Underwood (2) rock legends like the Eagles whose over 50yo audience has pushed their Wal-Mart only release to over 7 million copies sold (3) pre-teen sensation Miley Cyrus / Hannah Montana/ High School Musical spin offs…
…..so in other words, the people actually buying music these days are the people least likely to ever go on the internet, if they even know such a thing exists
That made me laugh. Thanks.
Analog and digital are different. Each has strengths and weaknesses. “Better” is a matter of taste. Extreme highs and lows are not inherently lost in digital bandwidth reduction. Analog does have the benefit of maturity… we’ve had a lot longer to get it right. Digital is *relatively* new and we’re still working through many of the issues.
Too true.
jump the shark.
or perhaps you’ve just run into a white person with a firm grasp of economics… in particular, someone who knows of topics like “scarcity” and “marginal cost.” i’m fond of corporations, but i’m not fond of paying for something that is infinitely abundant. where’s that type of white person fit in?
Estebanned.
Yeah, fuck those artists who provide me with a service I enjoy. What have they ever done for me?
They’re all like, “UUUHHHGGGG, REIMBURSE ME WHEN YOU ACQUIRE THE GOOD THAT I SUPPORT MYSELF WITH!”
If music really mattered to musicians, they would understand that I shouldn’t have to dip into my beer budget so that they can support themselves without taking second jobs. How selfish.
Suggestion for a post: Disney songs and/or movies. Most white Americans grew up on these staples, and bringing up the subject garners an almost immediate response.
Inevitably, the right kind of white person’s MP3 collection will contain songs from The Shins. There is no whiter group on earth. To gain instant credibilty with this white person, talk about how you prefer their “old stuff” from Oh, Inverted World.
LOL! I love it; so true!
Wow, you’re obviously super ignorant! Way to go. Looking for a prize or something?
http://mantivities.wordpress.com
Its not only about white people when it comes to piracy..its a disease with no cure..and its universal.
LOL, “brown propaganda”? Seriously? lmfao.
I’m taking this blog to be facetious, but I still feel compelled to re-iterate what said earlier (with whom I am in complete agreement):
If you have a car, and I like your car, so I take your car, and you now have no car — THAT is stealing.
If you have a car, and I like your car, so I make an exact replica of your car, so that we may now both enjoy the same car whenever we wish — That is NOT stealing!
It IS copyright infringment, but it is my opinion that artists, musicians, and writers accept the imminent risk involved in their profession, that their work may be copied. If they do not want it to be copied, they should pursue impervious copy-protection technology, or simply don’t record/write/draw/paint it.
What I still do agreee that fraud is unethical and deserving of punishment: when one person copies another person’s work and claims it as their own.
Wow, it seems the comments for your post have been overrun with people’s politics. I can’t say I didn’t expect it, however, but I think I agree with some people in that this particular post is a tad astray from “Stuff White People Like”. I think piracy is a universal thing anyway. What are you going to write next? “White people like buying fake handbags off the streets in Chinatown to impress their upper-middle-class friends”?
You are clearly insane.
I know its been said before but it bears repeating.
You are nuts!
err– maybe you just need optical help….
Oaxaca has a weekly organic farmers market. White people LOVE it.
I agree with all of the superficial cultural sensitivity that seems to plague these comments. I think everyone should be offended by anything that even remotely suggests that equivalence is not the same as equality.
In fact you should be ashamed of yourself. It’s almost as if you used socially relevant topics to illustrate the flawed and tragically humorous semantic obsession and stupidity of an entire species. What do you think this is, satire??
I’m sorry, I seem to have spilled some sarcasm on your comments section.
Again, kudos.
I have only one stolen song in my iTunes, from a library CD, and as soon as I figure out the iTunes store, I’ll go pay the $.99 so Sergio Mendes can get his nickel.
On a subject I know something about in a tangential sort of way, this entry came across more as redundantly informational than satirical. Clearly Clander believes that music piracy is a form of intellectual property theft. Anyone who works as a copywriter and soon to be published author would be inclined to such convictions. Clander sticks his hand up the ass of a couple of white hipster hand puppets to ventriloquize their feeble objections to his grievances and thereby tries to dramatize the controversy through a weak self-serving contrivance. We are finally left with an informed opinion awkwardly repeated for emphasis. Fair enough but it just isn’t funny.
I have mixed feelings about downloading music without paying from. While I do have a lot of downloaded music, most of it is obscure, out of print, psychedelia, folk and hard rock from the 60’s and 70’s.
With current bands, particularly the ones I really love like The Magnetic Fields, Palomar and Aimee Mann, I buy their cds.
I must not travel in the right circles of whiteness. I rate this entry: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
John Philip Sousa, who opposed recorded music altogether, is finally getting his revenge!
It disturbs me less that people are stealing from the likes of Sheryl Crow than that they are listening to her in the first place. When someone infinitely more tasteful, like Robert Everest (Google him), isn’t even available on Amazon.
Heh indeed. Especially music blogs like Discobelle and BoomKat
I miss the original Napster!
I gots to have my SoulSeek!
I recently dated a white guy who has a large vinyl music collection and is pretty much an indie music snob obsessed with bit torrent. I think it ended because I wasn’t white or asian, and was bored by all these conversations.
wow you are so ignorant, indiscriminately angry (i hate old baby boomers, i hate spics) and inarticulate I strongly suspect that perhaps you are one of the wrong white people just trying to pass – oh sad
http://hypem.com
or my blog(s)
http://colortronic.blogspot.com
http://selektor1.blogspot.com
shameless :p
Try living in Austin as a musician without two jobs. Musicians have never been able to make a living on a gig or two a week.
How many actually break through and make a career out of it? It’s like the dream of becoming an NBA or NFL player.
I’ll keep blowing a quarter of my paycheck on concert tickets and $5 -$10 dollar cover shows several nights a week..but I won’t stop downloading free shit until the RIAA comes knocking at my door.
I already subsidize the music industry enough. Fuck the major record companies, they can rot in hell.
SXSW just came through town, I’ve got a stack of 20 new cds that I bought for either a few bucks each or had them given to me for free. I have way more respect for those artists than the whiney greedy bitches crying about pirated music.
-wrong kind of whitey
White people also love the piracy of other cultures music. Check out this ridiculous “rap” some school district put together — the story is over @ http://detentionslip.org
the post is entitled: With a sign ’round your neck that says “Wack MC”
WWWSD?
What Would Wil Shipley Do?
Absolutely priceless!
did you see this shit on http://detentionslip.org today about some white vegas school district using “rap” to get kids to take tests? so terribly bad.
http://detentionslip.org/2008/03/with-sign-round-your-neck-that-says.html
You need to direct your anger at your parents (and corporations) instead.
Oxy10, I’m sorry to say that it seems you must miss most of the humor of this blog. Riviera Maya (which is inseperable from Cancun, by the way) will never be for the white people concerning this blog – at best they may go once in their lifetime, and then lose much time and standing among other whites trying to explain the trip away, perhaps with a visit to some ruins (unless their peers aren’t aware that Riviera is the same as Cancun, which is possible), and they will be tormented with guilt for years. Cancun is THE working-class/low middle-class tourist destination for whites – there is nothing ‘bourgeois’ about it.
???
Tubes in amps are overrated, it’s basically a novelty item that turns on White People (like “Wong”).
Opening day– boo yah
http://www.PeeYourPantsForTheBrewers.com is back up
White folks love baseball as a past time.
http://www.PeeYourPantsForTheBrewers.com is back up- yes
Actually, he’s right about Iran not having a problem with AIDS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_HIV/AIDS_adult_prevalence_rate
No, ultra-hick. Any genre other than country and you would have been a shoo-in, too bad.
White people like myspace music!
http://www.myspace.com/drrosenrosenmusic
West Texas cowboys are the lowest form of white man.
Does anyone notice how many if not most of the comments have nothing to say about the entry? Boredom. Perhaps.
So true… it’s like I KNOW I’M GONNA GO TO JAIL and yet, I just don’t care!!!
Kay
http://www.100daysinbed.blogspot.com
LOL! Vinyl elitist here…. you are so right on as usual!
HUH?
SAYS WHO?
AND DO NOT CITE THAT FIRST YR PROPERTY LAW CASE EITHER.
you’re a disgusting racist pig to dis these people. just because you’re jealous doesn’t give you yhe right to be hateful.
Dude? Have you been following me around? LOL
Seriously, nice little diatribe. 🙂 Welcome to my Blogroll.
Oxy10, stop while you’re ahead, you’ve already exposed yourself as the ‘wrong’ kind of white person (re: low-income white/popular class). If one were to adopt your social perspective, one could successfully make the case that internet had been much better when only affluent white people were participating (to the exclusion of individuals/white trash like you). And don’t bother writing about much money you make selling pharmaceuticals or funds, you are still trash – income is not the *only* determinant of trashiness – just ask your Mexican acquaintances about the meaning of the word “naco.”
Story of my life. Hahah.
My husband has over 500 gigs of music on our computer. I always thought he was ridiculous. Now, I know he’s just a white person. Thanks for saving my marriage!
~Katie
http://www.marriageconfessions.wordpress.com
I am white and i buy all my music, i have no right to any one elses property.
I can’t understand the people who actually try to question the accuracy of these assertions about white people or bring up racism. From what I can tell, this blog is crass humor, not an airtight sociological analysis of whites. I think it’s funny, man.
That’s pretty funny.
80% of the hits on this site are from people coming here to either post racist comments, or argue with people posting racist comments. This of course works just fine for clander. Move on, folks.
You can say that again. Those were the days.
i’m a white person and i make my living off of royalty income. i don’t live in a giant mansion on the hill. i’m a songwriter, not a singer-songwriter.
i’m the white person that this pirating white person doesn’t know about or believes exists.
while i don’t condone intellectual property piracy, i do like swashbuckling.
I think I would rather direct it at YOUR parents. For having YOU, you jerk.
Best of Craigslist
Subj. – Thanks, Mr.Hipster Record Store Clerk.
White people like to be hipster records store clerks.
black people like to steal things
if people didnt move on, there would be no blog
if someone has 3 black grandparents and 1 white grandparent, are they white, black, or 3/4 black, or 1/4 white?
are people from Spain white?
if a descendants of Dutch settlers in S.Africa moved to the US and had a daughter, would she be African-American?
what color are Mexican people?
according to this white people like to steal music.
did i really just read that mess?
white people don’t have to steal anymore…
AMEN!
classic.
Yes ma’am. None of us 80 per centers really knew what to do with ourselves. Thanks for setting us straight. I’ll move along now. Really, if you hadn’t set me straight I was going to go off on some serious rant about race and what not. Now, I ‘m going to jump over to my ann coulter chat room and do that. Wow, thank God for you telling me how it is.
BTW: white people are better at living in white households than blacks! HA! Take that, brownie!
then why did whites have to kill them virtually all off? how indians perceived their rights is irrelevant here, specifically when considering their genocide by whites.
IRRELEVANT JENNIE!
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2165403/music-downloads-bpi-mobile
As this link shows, +90% of the money for CDs in England goes to special Record Company Executives, the Mistress secretaries, their idiot son/cousin/brother also on payroll, and other ‘essentials’. Less than 10% goes to the actual artists. Most of the self-righteous hypocrits understand that the hypocrisy is at such an insane level that they won’t defend it….. though they would like to.
You are simply showing yourself to be an idiot by trying to defend the record companies.
there are a lot more like this idiot than we dare imagine.
Hmm, I don’t know about this one. Whites aren’t the only the ones. Of course they do brag about it a lot.
racist, honey. r-a-c-i-s-t….
i feel ya tho…church.
white people stole my country.
Trust me…this is something brown people (or shall I say brown men) like doing just as much! 😀
your logic is way fucked up.
i’m too tired to get into why, but
if your whites were so technologically advanced,
then why weren’t there ways in place to prevent
the immunological genocide of indians…
passive genocide? is that what you’re saying…
lawad jaysuz help a ninja ta hold out before i lose my mind..
that’s the worst of the wrong too. wut…
I think music piracy is an abomination. I pay for all the crud I have on my ipod. If musicians aren’t smart enough to bargain their way into better agreements with record companies then too bad for them. I am not gong to invite the record police into to my home to get free music. It’s very simple: it’s not yours, taking it without permission is theft, EOD.
Scumbags. Why don’t you white folk who steal music also go and rob a bank? It’s just money, they’ll make more. Or, hey, go and eat a whole half gallon of ice cream while wandering the supermarket–the supermarkets are rich, they don’t give a crap. How about standing outside the porno theatre and masturbating–hey why pay full price for something you’ll only need for five minutes, damnit?!
That is kind of a mean, nasty and unwarranted attack.
I’m sure that regardless of your superficial judgment of what makes a person have value (their looks according to your preferences) that this woman must have value to someone who would want to have a relationship (of whatever nature) with her.
Not only have you stolen all value from your own present opinion, but you have also devalued your future and past opinions.
I believe that comments such as yours should be deleted from public forums.
What does anyone’s “looks” or ethnic heritage (according to your standard) have to do with piracy anyway?
I think you likely have low self esteem issues and should sell your computer and use the money to buy some therapy.
interesting question on racial identity – as a mixed race person myself, i know the answer varies from place to place, race to race.
Obama is black to white people, though his lineage is 1/2 white, he is black. white folks follow the 1 drop rule for black folks, so 3/4 black is black. hell, even 1/4 black is black.
spaniards are white. that’s europe. you’re pure castillian, you’re most likely white, though there’s a heavy admixture of “moorish” blood particularly in the south of spain. still, though, you’ve got more modern-day spaniards who are products of post-colonial race mixing who are not purely white, but for the most part…white white white.
hispanic…that’s a whole ‘nother deal. multiple hues. more cultural/ethnic than racial and loaded with different hues.
1/2 asian/1/2 white…that’s me…we’re exotic to white folks, (especially white-guilt laden women) white to black folks, sometimes hispanic to hispanic folks (until you have to ask white pico de gallo is), and despised by a lot of asian folks because we’re generally better looking and have more access to whiteness than them…
Whiteness is definitely a frame of mind. I’m 100% white, and as such, I take special pride in having a 100% Indian friend. However, I do veer off into behaviors of “the wrong kind of white people”. She, however, despite being bi-lingual in English and Malayalam, is the most lily-white soul you’ve ever encountered.
oh and the white-south african question. got an x-friend who actually has this precise background. it’s STUPID for us to categorize him or his kind as African-American. Yeah the categories are always debatable – they’re NOT fixed, rigid entities, so we “could” call him African-American – he himself jokes that he is just that, but really with the multitude of connotations and assoications that go along with the term, seriously…honky PLEASE! That white boy is gonna have no trouble getting a cab at night
Vinyl sounds great, judge for yourself:
ctrl + f
Kit Carson on March 30, 2008 at 8:49 pm
A PERFECT example of the Wrong Kind Of White Person lol
vinyl IS better.
he doesn’t know about top of the line industry standard
technics…nor has he heard vinyl on an old skool thorens..
his ears would just fold up and go away if he did though.
white people sure seem to like Dave Matthews. Ever checked out the sea of white that is his audience?
like, what is up with that.
awesome… people mad all over the place about this one!!!! ITS OUR RIGHT TO DOWNLOAD FREE MUSIC LOL… uh, no its not 😛
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You’re super fucked up about this one. Everyone that has the knowledge about music online is a pirate.
In Philly I know more Black people that sell burnt cd’s and mp3’s.
I’m not denying not being a music Pirate, but everyone is quilty of this crime.
everyone will get caught at some point!
other questions:
are people from Egypt (or Libya, or Morocco, etc) ‘African’ ?
if the US ever paid slavery reparations, would they go to ‘black’ people who are African immigrants who came here in the 60’s and 70’s? BTW, Houston, LA , NY, Detroit and other cities have lots of folks from Nigeria, Ethiopia, Somalia etc living in them.
if a black African-American married your x-friend from S. African, and they had a kid, would the kid be Afrikaan African-American?
This post reminds me of the following blog:
http://www.neuropathologyblog.blogspot.com
LAME!!! One more lame post like this and I’m abandoning SWPL. Did the original creator of the site die or something?
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dude…what are you, like 9 years old? you can make up your own answers to these questions. what matters is that not a racist dipshit when you put the answers together.
reparations will NEVER happen. there’s a lot of white guilt around, but nowhere near enough to make even the most progressive white people actually want to forego their perceived entitlements.
even if there were reparations, africans whose descendants never went through the US slavery “system” would not be entitled to them…
kind of seems like you want broad and fixed categories of “blackness…” haven’t you figured yet that everything is contingent and flexible and relative? work on that
Hey, I hate smiley faces. Does that mean I am an ancient republican?
huh?
the warmth is totally lost during compression.
you can hear the differnce in WAV and MP3 which wav is
a much less compressed form…but once you’re
at MP3…well,the love is gone…
fuck you, scott
you should submit it as a “white spot”
uhm,
my mp3 player IS full (notice i did not say ipod),
but that’s only because 50% of the music on there
is uncompressed…so i’ve not got as many songs on there as
the next human.
his skin is white. uh oh.
Hats off to you for your racist post.
Well done.
Your parents must be very proud.
(Note the sarcasm, you’re reading it)
This website is about highlighting “stuff” that (white) people do in order to feel better about themselves in the eyes of their peers.
goes right to the core: Self Confidence.
boring
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i agree with you boring
Hahaha..Lol 😀
You know… I Actually highlighted all the text in your post to see if there was stuff i couldn’t see because the text was white.
now i’m confused.
I have to remember that one
1) ” it felt as though it was an earned right and not a privilege.”
I hate to be a quibbler but it should be something like:
it felt as though it was a right and not a privilege earned (for example by working at Starbucks and spending the money on downloads.)
Privileges are earned, rights you get for doing nothing but being vigilent about restraining the power of government; Which I have not been doing much of.
2) I only downloaded that stuff from that Russian site because it was legal in Russia, and I felt that Russsia should be admitted into the WTO. Once Russia was admitted into the WTO I stopped the downloads. Yes I agree the site was closed down once Russia was part of the WTO, but that does not detract from the principled nature of my illegal downloads. And why should I have to pay for Sid Vicious downloads anyway. I don’t even like that stuff. As to ABBA gold, I already bought the CD, why should I have to pay for the spanish version.
3) These days I buy Punjabi Bangra CDs for $3 each from the place the cab drivers get them. Basicially just make sure you are not getting a remix, unless that is what you want. Otherwise just tell them how many you want. Lucky Johal is da best. I really feel unique and multicultural when I listen to a Lucky Johal CD or any Bangra. I really feel fulfilled when another white person asks where they can get bangra CDs too.
4) I think the blog is getting kind of trivial but I do agree that for some white people the illegal downloading and hoarding was to impress people with the impossible to listen to size of their collection which might differentiate them from other societal groups that just download illegally to avoid paying.
I should have said the people I knew that ‘thought of themselfs as true audiophiles’…
Most of them were pretty geeked when CD first came out then slowing drifted back to digging analog.
Looking back I’m sure they weren’t as expert in audio quality as they thought they were.
Ummm…white people like nun’s who blog. Sister Mary at celebrityprayerlist is probably the funniest thing I have read…well, ever.
YOU people are all like that.
He’d turn the other cheek.
In England white people call it Cricket. I shoulda been born British.
LIME WIRE IS PIRACY IM A KID ANY WAYS 🙂
Another thing White People like is reading Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky and bellyaching about imperialism and colonialism as if history isn’t full of invasions, conquest, and migrations. Cleverly leftist motherfuckers draw the line at some vague point past the 16th century (all depending on which European power you want to bash). Then they pat themselves on the back for writing a one line comment on a satire blog and stading with The Native Peoples(tm) of the globe, somehow making a difference with their shocking affront to the mainstream.
You’re a tedious windbag.
THE RIGHT KIND OF WHITE PEOPLE COME IN ALL COLORS.
This comment section has become a wonderful cluster fuck.
I read that people on Stormfront are mad about it.
If they play their cards right, this site will be all out of fun and people will go about their business.
He’s a fucking actor, and that was a shittily written character, from an author of pulp trash (that hipsters love).
Most of the people who drop his name should at least know that he’s a boring motherfucker.
If you make your living off of royalty income, shouldn’t you live up at the palace?
Clearly you’re right. Of tens of millions of Russians it’s only The Jews who pirate. Plus, they drop some Christian baby blood onto each CD tray.
Do you wake up everyday and face the fact that you’re an antisemitic motherfucker or was this day special?
Have you ever talked to your therapist about your compulsion to mention Israel over and over in some vague conspiratorial way?
Have you taken your meds yet, son?
it is white people who have brought us things like napster and other things of the sorts. thanks white people!
come visit
http://www.stuffmenlike.wordpress.com (just started)
http://www.stuffasianslike.blogspot.com (started in Feb.2008)
Officially.
Whites invented the Internet.
Why don’t you read your yourself what they think. It’s clear to most real Whites that this blog satires the liberal, single clueless “10-inch bicep” specimen of white!!
10-inch biceps! LOL!!!!!!!
“reparations will never happen”???
You obviously don’t know any “Jews”. They’re still finding things and people to sue.
It’s always whitey’s fault.
good
The lowest form of a White man is one with 10- inch biceps that eats “dim sum” like a total douche bag.
White people don’t like HIV.
OK?
“hike up your skirt a little more…….”
that’s the only DM Band song I know. LOL!!!
Damn. Does anyone want to buy some vintage vinyl?
If you are colored, you ain’t White.
Btw, what is the problem calling them ‘colored people’? But ‘people of color’ is OK?
Why don’t any blacks like U2? They are one of the world’s most famous bands.
I thought blacks weren’t ‘racist’. LOL!!!! They refuse to like U2 based on race.
I agree. I (a black chick) always download illegally. The only difference is I don’t try to justify it with talking about other ways I support the bands.
Hmm….I have a slightly different wrinkle. I’ve never downloaded pirated music from the net. Instead, I’ve gone to the local public library, which has a terrific CD collection. Over the past few years I’ve checked out and ripped several days worth of CDs. I now have a most righteous jazz collection befitting my irremediable whiteness.
I have three justifications/excuses. 1) Since the music is freely available anyway, all I’m doing is getting a benefit I’m allowed while also letting the library continue to circulate the CD to the rest of the public 2) Most of the jazz guys whose music I’m ripping are dead, and 3) no one’s actually out any money they would’ve had anyway, because I was too cheap to spend much money on recorded music before I got a CD burner. In fact, I probably spend more on the guys I rip when I come across something at the record store (used and hip, of course) because I’m familiar with them.
Do I feel good about this? Not really. But, I definitely feel white.
Yay! Racism!!
“Payed” LMFAO
Did you really spell paid P-A-Y-E-D? Please let this just be a troll trying to capture on the whole grammar police discusion from above.
Sticking with the theme of the post…
So if I have a couple thousand CD’s, trashed my couple hundred cassettes because my last tape player broke, about 100 records, and access to about 4 or 5 reel to reels, does that make me super elite?
Also, I am one of the few that downloads illegal mp3’s to get more than 30 seconds of a song before I buy the record. If the album sucks, generally the songs I downloaded get trashed too. Not because I’m worried about the RIAA, but because it sucked!
the whole line of reasoning is ridiculous, which goes for most ‘cultural’ thinking when one takes the line and applies it to laws – like who is white, black etc. and what they deserve because of it.
one could reasonably argue that present-day black people in the US are econmically better off than current citizens of africa, thus their economic status was improved because their ancestors were shipped here.
truly those victims of the crimes of a repressive and immoral slavery regime perpetrated by the US governement and US corporations would have significant damages owed to them, present day people are too far removed to deserve a direct payment.
most white people (and asians and mexicans) in the US oppose a direct payment reparations scheme, but many would have supported a scheme like the GI bill to give loans and grants to go to college for free for a couple of generations.
Seriously? Five whole minutes? White males can easily do it in under sixty seconds…
Respect of property rights? HA! Have you picked up a history textbook lately?
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Its a sad day when you realize you are the wrong kind of white person!!
The pupil has surpassed the Master.
they also like going to places like amoeba in sf to get CDs for bottom of the barrel prices like $1… in order to make themselves seem “Better” or dare to be “elite” and get some vinyls. anyway, i LOVE going there for bargains… and i think white people like bargains, too.
Hey! Thanks for the heads up on a great record shop! The smallest white thing you’ll ever do.
hahaha! I am white, and you are right.
Also, fuck Dave Matthews.
I think pirating music is something that white college kids and 20-something whites do. White people who have graduated and working professionally, most likely in their 30s and with more disposable income, buy from iTunes because it’s more proper, less heathen and is easier than figuring out how to get music for free.
The bit about whites and their vinyl collections are good, but I know quite a few black dudes who have substantial record collections. A couple are/were DJs but not all of them. Black people like vinyl just as much as white people.
btw, white people are now also listening to internet radio (some of whom tried satellite radio previously but discovered it was a waste of money.)
If you’re going to follow the herd, you have to stay awake. You might get left behind in some god forsaken place where you find your sanity.
Has anyone mentioned VH-1? White people like VH-1. White people (the younger ones) also like MTV because from watching certain programs they can more readily pick up black urban culture that they can repeat to their white friends to appear hip. Where do you think white people got “yo, dawg, wassup? you rockin’ a latte?”? Or “Don’t bug me, I’m pimpin’ my MacBook right now”? Definitely not from their (non-existent) black friends, but from MTV.
It’s amusing to watch MTV spring break, where there are tons of (the wrong kind of) white people in Cancun and they’re all “dancing” to music being performed by black rappers. The shirtless guys with the backwards baseball caps make me laugh the most. And what’s more, young white people, mostly women, like showing their breasts during spring break. Oh, pardon me, again, that’s the wrong kind of white people. Wrong blog.
This is too funny! Can’t wait for the book to come out . . .
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Yes, of course, downloading is bank robbery, and ever song you download robs artists of 99 cents. If you’re thinking, hey, I’m a college student, and I make 600 dollars an hour, I buy all the music I can afford, and download the rest, how does that hurt anybody, NO YOUR WRONG! You’re a robber and your worse than a pedophile!
It’s like God killing kittens when you masturbate!
I desire to see the era of the middle class celebrity. That’s why I support music theft.
The concept of economic, or any kind, of aristocrat in the US is unAmerican.
Back in 2005 I became so disgusted with the music industry that my New Year’s resolution for 2007 was not to purchase any corporate music. Furthermore, I would not illegally download music.
Why?
First off, the music industry has been overcharging their consumers for decades and for all that overcharging very few of the artists can making a living making music. Their tax write-offs. I could be a white guy about this (although I am) and throw in a few quote from Albini but you’re all smart people, you Google his article yourself. Besides, I’m a lazy white guy.
Secondly, back in 2005 the industry started placing ridiculous DRM in CDs. Remember that Coldplay CD that hav everyone outraged? I don’t. Coldplay’s not a bad band but not my cup of chai (see, I’m white) but my point is that their label placed all these digital restrictions on the CD on where and how you could play it. For example, some car stereos could not play the CD. Fuck that. That’s like purchasing a sweater but only being allowed to wear it in certain locations and not being allowed to let you friend wear you sweater.
Then, of course, we had the industry come down on a lot of people who had never illegally downloaded MP3 off the net. We’re talking about your average citizen who simply who even if they win their court case is sure to become bankrupt from the experience.
So I gave the finger to the music industry for 365 days. In my own way I wanted to be one of the nails in their coffin. I wasn’t going to give them one dime (or 99 cents on iTunes). I was tired of getting ripped off by the music industry, tired of music industry ripping off the majority of their talent and then fucking everyone over a barrel. I was only going to buy music from indie labels or indie bands. And I mean indie, not major labels who own smaller labels to get street cred.
Well, 2006 came and went and last February I realized that my resolution was up and I was free to buy corporate music. I purchased two CDs. One I can’t even remember and the other was Lily Allen’s debut CD which only had two decent songs on it. I was so disgusted that I’m back to supporting the indies with the rare, and I mean rare, exception.
I suggest everyone follow my example. Besides, there’s just way too much great indie music out there to ever want, or need, to buy another U2 album ever again.
No, no he wouldn’t, but we’d still both smash your fuckin’ iPod and Dave Matthews, regardless of whether you really know Dave Matthews or not.
Clander another classic!
http://www.michaelmorgan.co.uk
Ok, ok, you found me. Though I’m pretty sure that quote about Dave Matthews has literally come out of my mouth exactly. Maybe without the ‘bro’.
First of all great blogs, but let me put this way MUSIC IS ORIGINALLY FREE from the Egyptian ERA till MILLENIUM era.
Label records distributed many major artist and cut big chunk of their income to make the records get more coins in the Bank.
Thats why I always support Indie Labels, but some how many Indie labels when they found great new artist and their slightly transform like their counterparts , the big major labels in ways of distributing and artist management.
In my country I’m gratefull to know when I bought my original CD from the local music store I can play it and transfer it to which ever media I want. Listen it by PC, OK !!!. Transfer to my MP3 player, GREAT !!!. Cause in my country law you own the media you buy and can enjoy it in anyway that you like without have to worry that the songs I bought will sued by big companies like APPLE or many big labels there in the USA.
THATS WHY EVERY TIME I READ ANY BLOGS FROM YOUR COUNTRY, I TAKE A PITY FOR YOU WHITE PEOPLE, BEING NOT BE ABLE TO ENJOY EVEN THE ENTERTAINMENT YOU ALREADY LEGALLY BUY !!!!
well set, Really a good blog ,i also have a good collection of music with me but i am not white, am black from India, BUT I HAVE ALL THE MUSIC OF
50cents,Akon,Ricky martin , Justin timberlake, Jennifer lopez and Will smith.
If you bring up this issue with white person who says “nah bro, I don’t give a shit, Dave Matthews has enough money as it is.” You are likely dealing with wrong kind of white person.
This topic also brings up a tangental but no less insightful observation, white people love pirates.
you have a point of view. well done.
LOL, too freakin funny & true. I’ve actually downloaded music and then mailed checks straight to the band, usually tucked into a handmade greeting card. But I only do that for bands I really love. I’m a total pirate. And not just music; it’s software, TV shows, movies, audio books. Mine. All mine.
Yeah! I used to put up free film soundtracks for download, then I had surgery nd I am a darker, I want to be black, so I took the free songs down
Nothing about the music industry’s planned obsolescence of format after format and the poor schlubs who have purchased THE SAME ALBUM on 1) vinyl; 2) 8-track; 3) cassette; 4) CD and 5) remastered CD reissue with two bonus tracks? —
Nothing about the industry’s admitted and repeated bouts of price fixing? —
The way I figure it, the industry is still way ahead of the game . . .
Save that $18.99 you were going to spend on a CD from Amazon. Instead, put that money in the tip jar of your favorite local band and don’t forget to support the music venues that give the music artists a place to display their talents.
The best way to buy music, if you choose to pay for it at all, is directly from the artist via a myspace music site & paypal, or in person.
I can get behind the new model that T.Reznor and Radiohead have recently experimented with. I prefer to cut out the middle man completly. Record companies are useless bastards that cram shitty music down our throats just because they think it can ‘sell’.
EMI Sony BMG Music Entertainment Universal Music Group Warner Music Group = rob these worthless fucks! they need to go the way of the dinosaur as fast as possible.
Ha ha ha. Apparently I have this “wrong kind of white person” trait. I don’t care if its right or wrong. I’ll takes what I can gets when I can gets it.
You know, vinyl people, its better for the environment to download music.
BAM! I’m the right kind of white person again!
Ha ha ha. I do like VH1. Sometimes. If I love the 80’s or 90’s is on. I don’t remember much of the 80’s, but its still pretty funny.
I don’t like MTV. Ever. Maybe I’m not young enough. I heard MTV was once good, but they stopped doing music videos back when I was in middle school.
Yeah! Fuck Dave Matthews!
No one speaks of the invasion of this peaceful continent by the Pan-asiatics who lumbered over the Bering Strait land bridge. The inter- and intra-tribal warfare bloodied this land for centuries before the appearance of the white man’s overbite.
Where else on an mp3 player are you going to find Mos Def, Dean Martin, and Metallica all sharing the same space??
And speaking of Metallica, we downloaded St. Anger just to see if it was worth buying. It sucked major ass. We not only didn’t buy the cd, we deleted the music after it was decided the whole disc was crap. This is why music companies don’t like illegal downloading. They want you to spend your money on a cd. By the time you discover the music is horrible, the company has your money, and you can’t ever get it back.
i was going to respond but then i realized how pointless (not to mention boring) it would be. you see, i don’t shop at walmart or pray to jesus or vote republican for any other reason than because i want to. i do these things when and if i want. you take arts classes because you think that will make you look and sound interesting. this is precisely why you are so boring.
fuck em. think how much money we’ve dribbled into the music industry that for the most part churns out crap after crap. i’ve invested enough money as it is into the industry. You invest money into the industry and they turn around and invest it into MTV, all the wash ups on VH1, or more BS from the usual suspects.
All of my MP3’s come straight off my 8track tapes and cassettes! No piracy here! LOL
Anything posted on the internet is fair game, as far as I’m concerned.
I think I’ve seen comments on all of these posts that say something like “this only describes liberal white people ” or “this only describes white people between 18-40”.
Stop posting those comments every freakin’ time. Everyone knows this is only for a certain type of white person.
this is bs. only one post a week? what the fuck. fuck target. no one wants to read about their products. people want to know more stuff that white ppl like.
I think I get it. Are the “wrong kind of white people” non-jews?
The pic of Rob Gordon surrounded by vinyl is a perfect summation of this story…
http://jamsbio.com
I hate you Christian Lander. This blog sucks. Your writing sucks, Your photography sucks. I hate you and want you dead.
white people are obsessed with buying things off of iTunes.
So not that white.
There are also the white people who play music, put there songs on Myspace, eventually release a record that sells 3 copies and love to take the “understanding musician” stance and get righteous about people infringing your copyrights, even though theyre far from a victim of it.
am i on the wrong comment board? New here so just to clarify, I’m commenting on the mp3s with white guys, not the race rants. I like to keep it simple.
Anyhoo, this is sooo on the money. I have a short white guy friend with a 200 or 300 gb hard drive packed with music. Makes me think the writer was listening to the conversation I had when i asked him about it. He went through the exact thing about the music industry with me. Too funny.
What would the writers suggest to whether or not I should I send this to him. Could it be dangerous? Would his head suddenly implode?
Oh, and yes I copied his hard drive. Pirated the whole thing. but I think I fall into to wrong white guy column as i don’t really give a toss.
Actually, the white people this blog is about like to talk about how their nation was based on genocide, while quoting Zinn’s People’s History of the United States.
I’ve got stuff white people would like,like using the N-word amongst friends.
http://tonalddrump.wordpress.com/
don’t forget to add pitchfork media to the list then
i love how if someone was playing a CD on one player and an MP3 on another and then…vinyl? and it was in the middle of a song? I WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO TELL THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE
i think those elitiest ppl are just making it up…
ridiculous v.v()
if i have the ability to get free music then I will, I don’t care about the music industry and how they make money, if they’re not making enough money from music then they can get a second job like the rest of us. shit
Hey douchebag! I have been given thousands of songs over my few years in high school by chicks that made me something called a mix-tape or mix-cd. Hmmm? I realize none of your little nubchubbers made you one, but for the rest of the world this was always viewed as fair use. As a matter of fact laws in many white places and non-white places vary greatly. So go ahead and define “steal” before you keep making yourself sound like the retard that you are.
No if you are are really of the white elite – you use sites like mp3sparks.us and other equivalents.
Another method that may or may not equate as fair use is making copies of all your family’s household music. If one household member has a vinyl collection copied on to one mp3 player, and another member has his separate collection, and they swap hard drives – is that not fair use?
Seriously you little bitch, there are so many ways of acquiring music legally and cheap or without having to fork of $1 per song..you really should start to wipe the shit off your face so you can see.
Speaking of white people…
Have you done one on bootlegs? I’m not sure there is a black person alive with a bootleg recording of a Dr. Dre concert.
Oh, I mean bootleg recordings of live shows, particularly by the Grateful Dead, Bruce Springsteen, Pearl Jam, or Elvis Costello.
Even better is finding bootlegs by less well-known groups such as Vampire Weekend, Vertical Horizon, or Gov’t Mule.
Right on target. My local college paper featured an article by a white guy making these very same defenses for his piracy. He added one that some bands let people download there music for free. Next week there was a letter to the editor asking, “So that means that because some people give free food to the homeless, that means I can steal from Kroger?”
Amazingly, the editor allowed the pirate more ink space in the next issue to write a rebuttal repeating the same damn rationalizations.
oops, gotta go. I just sharted!
Hey I resemble that remark!
This blog makes me realise what a stereotype I am.
Top five musical crimes perpetuated by Stevie Wonder in the ’80s and ’90s. Go.
Sub-question: is it in fact unfair to criticize a formerly great artist for his latter day sins; is it better to burn out or fade away?
This means your ready for your new big boy underpants, damn!
took you long enough, Mister! Us Jews in 6 NYC area codes, that’s who read this site…and merrily self-flagellate.
Laughter!I just happen to be black but I’m guilty of endorsing the ‘craft’of music piracy myself.But hell, it’s just ’cause I’m being cheap!
This blog is *hilarous*…I’m only jealous that I didn’t think of this first.
The next two posts need to be:
94. Bon Jovi
95. Playing “bags”
I never, in my entire life, feel less white than I do when I’m in a crowded bar and “Shot Through the Heart” (is that the name of the Bon Jovi song?) plays. All the white people go nuts and I sit there with a look of befuddlement on my face.
Brilliant!! Hilarious!! You continue to out do yourself with each post.
I feel the need to mention that white people tend to like our music. We are an acoustic duo featuring a cello and guitar. We busk regularly at Third Street Promenade in Santa Monica and we seem to be a magnet for white people. Perhaps you can investigate this phenomenon…
myspace.com/kenoakband
i understood
right — especially blogs on WordPress since it’s got the “new web” vibe that only people with money and education would pick up on.
basically this site is talking about bourgeois people, and of course most of them are white, but it’s really anybody who grew up in mainstream US, and has access to money and a college education.
i’ve always said the real social function of bourgeois whiteness is to oppress the white working classes. you’ll notice that’s really the only group it’s OK for them(us) to dislike.
i’d like to see a posting about the “authentic” sort of hip-hop that white people like: def jux et al.
$0.02,
rs
is it too late to get stuffthebourgeousielike.wordpress.com?
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white people like em dashes.
Well very true, I won’t launch into diatribe, but I will say this…
1. It’s pure revenge for my teen years…Greatest hits that weren’t, and the smarmy biz ethic of putting one good song on a tape or CD full of crap.
2. Nobody got rich from spending it honey bunny! 😉
I do think it’s a ‘bit’ trite to suggest that white people are responsible for music piracy…then again I don’t care that much.
With all the evil going on in the world, and nobody lifting a finger to stop it…might as well join in.
hoping somebody would catch that 😉
rs
that reminds me of ways black people tend to operate on the internet:
* they use extra, unnecessary modifiers (instead of “i like hamburgers”, it could be “i like me some hamburgers”.)
* they use less punctuation and caps (“HEY DOES ANYBODY KNOW THE BEST NEEDLE FOR SCRATCHIN HOLLA BACK”).
* they have less “cutting edge” mail addresses and blog spaces (stuff like “nateballa_2007@yahoo.com” instead of “nathan.jones@gmail.com”)
a lot of this is synonymous with a certain level of formal education — presumably the connections between ethnicity, income, and education have already been well-covered here.
rs
I think white people would love this new blog I just saw.
http://undecidedbuckets.wordpress.com
i for one am hoping this guy keeps blogging
Artists get $.99 a download? What if I, the college student, just says – fine I won’t ‘download’…I’ll just stream – off Pandora or other internet radio..is that ok? How much do artists make off that – you stupid dick?!!! And then what if I set up my computer to record all the songs playing all day – kind of like a tivo? Oh that’s illegal – so Tivo is illegal? You know what…screw it, if you’re not being ironic then I’d like to personally thank you for your comment. It has made me see the error of my ways. Especially when you use all caps – I’m so angry at myself because of your extremely logical and well reasoned comment. I will now no longer listen to music again because I clearly don’t deserve it – I’m going to hell for all the kittens I’ve killed.
This blog is about what white people like. If a bunch of hot white girls wanted to go to Africa, i don’t any black men would mind. I have friends that are black so i know 😉
WTF…when is the blog for Tibet coming out?
Duh…White people love Tibet. They prefer a theocracy where 99% faced an annual starvation. They like it because the 1% that had all resources wore cute robes and prayed to a god that was strange and not like their parents’ god. The god in the robe ran like a scared chicken to India to make wise, thoughtful statements about inner peace. It requires nothing but lip service and a Free Tibet bumpersticker to care about Tibet. That is what makes it so rad for whitey.
Thank you for making me more “socially-aware”.
WTF…when is the blog for Tibet coming out?
Duh…White people love Tibet. They prefer a theocracy where 99% faced an annual starvation. They like it because the 1% that had all resources wore cute robes and prayed to a god that was strange and not like their parents’ god. The god in the robe ran like a scared chicken to India to make wise, thoughtful statements about inner peace. It requires nothing but lip service and a Free Tibet bumpersticker to care about Tibet. That is what makes it so rad for whitey.
Best and most widespread post yet. Love it.
thepiratebay.org or limewire pro
Cancun is wholly unacceptable. Ruins no longer suffice to explain this trip away – too common. The only acceptable story:
1) Started my day at the resort (add: I was only there b/c my parents had a free timeshare exchange that needed to be used. add further: I HATE timeshares).
2) I had to get away from the tourists so I spent my day at an out of the way cenote I discovered. It was incredible and the little town nearby was amazing/so authentic.
3) Yeah, I did go out in Cancun one night. I figured it be be hilarious to check out the clubs. Boy was I right. I can’t believe people go there and think they’ve “been to Mexico.” (white people love insulting other people’s statements by throwing quotes around them mockingly).
4) I’m planning a trip to Guadalajara for next year.
My friend has a music company for underground indie artists called MINI LIFE.
check it out: http://www.minilife.biz
“The advent of the internet and digital media wields an amazing potential to connect people with stuff they love, and more importantly..stuff they ‘didn’t know they loved’. Once people love stuff, they tend to support it.
“In the end, we are super excited to support a site that truly cares about having creation meet the fans and to develop a true cycle that allows for those who create to keep creating.”
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He equates the idea that music file sharing is a similar controversary to print media….like when was the last time you checked a phone book for a number versus going online or called 411 or do you read blogs / online news more than opening up a paper?
With all due respect= You are so way off base you make my head want to explode with how dumb you are.
Wow. With all due Respect =
You are so way off base my head is about to explode!
yall should watch STEAL THIS FILM. look it up on youTube. It has some very interesting points.
and my friend who started MINI LIFE is Native American.
http://www.minilife.biz
When counting your number of CDs, there are a few types that should not count towards your total. They are:
“Now that’s what I call Music”
Soundtracks
Greatest Hits
This is incorrect. White people pay for more music. Evidence to support this would be record sales, verses ring tone sales.
Artists “white people like” sell more albums and more mp3 files than “stuff white people don’t like”, which sell more ring tones, but less albums.
Rap, pop, and R&B, are hurt the most by music piracy. They make more on ring tones, probably because they are easily recognized in lo-fidelity phone sound, and because people can’t as many ways to pirate ring tones as regular albums.
Its truly un-white lol, to pirate music at all, as you have said before, white people tend to love anything the more authentic it seems. Pirated items are not considered “authentic”, and if it is found out by other white people that a white person gets pirated music either on the streets, or off the internet, they would be considered a phony.
For me, I buy authentic albums or mp3s of the artists I like. Gotta support the artists to encourage more.
I used to download from Napster while it was still a foggy legal issue. Including stuff I was unfamiliar with, just to check it out. I have to say when I found that liked an ablum that I downloaded I would go out a buy other album by that band.
white people like men without hats. No-one else does.
well…when my roommate has such great music. why would i just buy it again? right?
dash right – we do
Second that- Kit scalp yourself, please!
Right on Julia! I agree! I am definitely a white guy that is a music executive and the guy that feels my b-sides and bootlegs have been compromised.
I agree with “almost” everything posted.
Just for fun, I am a Music Executive with a well known company. Read my take and lam-baste me if you feel the need.
Audio Sponge
how about, swearing for stuff white people like? i’m non-white, and i find it peculiar that swearing is part of the white person’s everyday language. at school, in movies, at home. what the hell?
hahahah, best one yet.
Coming from a very “White Guy,” I would just walk away after you asked me the question simply because I would be afraid you were trying to steal my Ipod. If you got in my way…I’d probably just sue you.
um… I’m only commenting to say “kick ass photo of my boo John Cusack in High Fidelity”
*swoon*
great site, btw!!
🙂
Love this blog.
I looked through the list and realized that I’m not that white. Until now. This post could easily be written about me. I feel such shame. Shame that I fit (nearly) every description in this post. Also shame that I will probably never change. After all, I am still a music fan first and foremost.
Just call me “whitey”.
“i like me some hamburgers” – guffaw-guffaw!! who says that? ghettoMcUrkel? if you are gonna try and imitate a black person in order to make some kind of point, please try and make your imitation more accurate and up to date. know what
i´m sayin`?
Your blog is sensational, though the last few entries have seem strained and lack that ring of truth that makes things like “The idea of Soccer” and “bottled water” such brilliant pieces.
Pirated music, San Francisco just don’t have that same feel….that same insight. I don’t think anybody sees Music Piracy as a strictly white thing, or preppy thing.
Local bands, sure…especially local folk bands or bluegrass bands by people trying to show their “folksy” nature.
I don’t know why, but these last few feel forced…
Interesting viewpoint on Perez –> http://mylifethroughpictures.blogspot.com/2008/04/ok-this-isnt-photo-i-took-with-my.html
Hello, I am Black. We have a term “Bitch-made-niggas” This for Black men that let women (any color) control them like a puppet.
So, yes, men are bitches, too.
There is a flip side. In the now-a-days, Bitch is not a bad word. This is in the world of hustlers, pimps and players, also known as professional, skilled, and blue-collar workers in “White” people’s terms.
Women have to have qualifications and prerequisites to be a bitch. The new meaning of bitch in White people’s terms is a woman that knows when to act or not act to take advantages of any forward power moves to include acquisitions of businesses, especially those of promising wealth for generations to come.
Basically, the new bitch sees everything as an opportunity. She is, also, keen to the fact that everything has its time, place and period of growth. Acting with extreme care she “The Bitch” takes advantage of every risk, getting out when things are near the peek and buying up everything when things are at their lowest.
Just info.
Rap is not a bad why to educate kids. Teachers now-a-days like the ones when I came up were boring. They made things that are so easy difficult.
I am teaching English in Japan. I have children 2 years and up reading English. Well, only one of my two year old students read. I have mostly 3 year old and up reading.
How? It is called rhythm. what ever it takes to get these kids to learn is a great thing. if you have a better idea, participate, don’t hate!
It is all love. Don’t be fooled. Slavery was a way to capitalize on profit, only.
The rich cares nothing for a fool, black, purple, red, brown or white.
This website is funny. Really funny. I am this particular white person, except, all my music is legal. Back in the day, napster was pretty cool, but I was poor with a 56k modem. Try downloading off that.
I’m from South Louisiana, and this sentence is of the kind I’ve heard all my life… from white and black people… So perhaps we should take location into account.
It’s also hilarious, the sentence. HILARIOUS.
wtf?
get out of my head, clander.
errrr.. false!! black people, like i, who actually have access to the internet love music piracy more than white people.. well any white people who are reading this who happen to also work for any government/audio corporation.. please disregard what i just said.. lol.. and my ip address at that
Reid you are so on point with that comment. I was thinking they should do a post on how white people like having “eclectic” tastes in music. Usually this is qualified by saying anything but “commercial” country. Meaning they started listening to Johnny Cash after “Walk the Line” came out and Willie Nelson is OK too because he smokes a lot of pot. Also, admitting to liking pop country is lumping yourself with the wrong kind of white people. These white music “experts” like to dis country but will quickly belt out their favorite 80s tunes and maybe even Britney Spears or N’Sync if they’re in the mood.
Another thing, white people like the electric slide because the steps are easy (even when they are drunk), and it reminds them of high school.
White people have always stolen stuff…historically it’s been limited to people, entire countries, elections, mineral rights or other natural resources. But music is no exception. Only now, they are stealing from each other…that’s all. No biggie.
BTW. this is a great blog…although it seems that it really should be called Stuff LIBERALwhitepeoplelike…or StuffMIDDLECLASSwhitepeoplelike
Wow.
Took you a long time to come up with this completely accurate, well written, and creative list. Thought long and hard about it didn’t ya Buddy?
Please note my sarcasm as your ignorance has been duly noted.
So should water, clean air, and education.
http://www.CoolCrys.wordpress.com
yes, many white people (and generally most people who would like to consider themselves socially-aware) seem to like the cause of Tibet, but perhaps this is because these people ACTUALLY value a peoples’ ability to choose the manner of their own governance, lifestyle, and laws in accordance with their own societal values. Do you honestly think that white people “prefer a theocracy where 99% faced and annual starvation” because “the 1% that had all the resources wore cute robes”? Do you know anything about Tibetan Buddhism or Tibetan society and culture, before or after the Chinese invasion? As someone who has spent quite alot of time interacting with Tibetans in exile, I can confidently say that your comment shows, without a doubt, that YOU like ignorance and stupidity.
You really should call this site Stuff White Khazakhs Like since the majority of white people, especially American white people, aren’t into this crap unless they sport mullets, wear wire-frame glasses, talk with an effeminate voice, vote for idiots like HITLERy, and use words like “Oy!” and “chudspa” a lot.
Just a word to the wise.
All of my music is legal, actually, and I can’t stand piracy or any of my idiot friends’ “justified reasons” for stealing. Basically it comes down to a sense of entitlement for everything they want and an aversion for paying for it. Makes me sick. Generally the same folks who bitch and moan incessantly about how people keep stealing their “professional quality” artistic photographs from Flickr and such. Copyrights are SO subjective, huh?
Oh yeah, white over here. And I think this blog is in really poor taste. One of the friends I’m always telling off for pirating shit sent me to this link and I felt the need to comment.
this isn’t as good as your other posts. to lengthy! don’t let the book deal ruin this thing!
this has turned into a complete oyster carnical
yeah i think im the only white person in the world with an ipod where each and every one of the songs is 100% legal and fully paid for, by myself
Correction: EVERYONE loves music piracy.
well, I don’t see anything yet on how pathetic it is that music has devolved to the point where the quality of sound means nothing and the quantity means everything.
Absolutely! Might as well save your money and go to Florida!
Besides the tongue-in-cheek bigotry of this site (which I’m sure has been pointed out ad nauseum elsewhere here), the problem with most posts on this blog is the subjects aren’t limited to just white people, which makes it all the more bigoted.
An example: A few years ago I asked a coworker if he had bought a CD that had just come out. He said to me, “black people don’t buy CDs”. He then went to great length to tell me about a secret spot where he went in the ‘hood where a guy had a whole copying setup, a network of computers and burners, where you could buy illegal copies of anything: games, CDs or DVDs.
I hate bigotry in any form, and the response blog with watermelon, chicken and big butts seems inevitable. Fight racism with more racism? What a wonderful cycle of resentment and hatred you have going on here.
Men are also called “motherfucker,” “asshole” and “son of a bitch”.
Of course minorities love thinking they’re morally superior to whites because of this. But they still live here, so they cannot mind genocide too much.
In the case of Asians and Hispanics they’ve have moved here, so they implicitly endorse the genocide.
ONE BIG DIFFERENCE-> Piracy is Stealing, removing an object from its rightful owner and taking possesion of it. Copying a song is not stealing as it does not deprive its owner of its possesion. Theoretical money cannot be included because it does not exist.
Is there anything useful on this web site?
Believe it or not, I actually go to iTunes and purchase my music. =]
and bastard
I knew my thousands of vinyl records would pay off some day. I love to dig… try to comprehend that inferiors.
My Asian girlfriend loves the mix CDs I make her of my vinyl collection. She told me at our last dinner party.
I’m white and I have a tiny music selection. I don’t even own an MP3 player.
This black guy I know has over 6,000 songs on his Ipod.
Both systems are horrible. It is you that puts a favorable light on the theocracy. In fact, many people of Tibet’s theocracy were left out of the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in dismal proportions. Your exiled leader fled his people. Noble heros will lay down their lives for a cause and many have done so. You are not ignorant and I do not like stupidity. We all have more to learn. Peace be with you. You need to put on your cute robe with your friends and find your inner peace. (Also, put your “Free Tibet” bumper sticker on all your Volvos.)
My ignorance footnoted and documented:
The theocracy’s religious teachings buttressed its class order. The poor and afflicted were taught that they had brought their troubles upon themselves because of their wicked ways in previous lives. Hence they had to accept the misery of their present existence as a karmic atonement and in anticipation that their lot would improve in their next lifetime. The rich and powerful treated their good fortune as a reward for, and tangible evidence of, virtue in past and present lives.
The Tibetan serfs were something more than superstitious victims, blind to their own oppression. As we have seen, some ran away; others openly resisted, sometimes suffering dire consequences. In feudal Tibet, torture and mutilation–including eye gouging, the pulling out of tongues, hamstringing, and amputation–were favored punishments inflicted upon thieves, and runaway or resistant serfs. Journeying through Tibet in the 1960s, Stuart and Roma Gelder interviewed a former serf, Tsereh Wang Tuei, who had stolen two sheep belonging to a monastery. For this he had both his eyes gouged out and his hand mutilated beyond use. He explains that he no longer is a Buddhist: “When a holy lama told them to blind me I thought there was no good in religion.”21 Since it was against Buddhist teachings to take human life, some offenders were severely lashed and then “left to God” in the freezing night to die. “The parallels between Tibet and medieval Europe are striking,” concludes Tom Grunfeld in his book on Tibet. 22
In 1959, Anna Louise Strong visited an exhibition of torture equipment that had been used by the Tibetan overlords. There were handcuffs of all sizes, including small ones for children, and instruments for cutting off noses and ears, gouging out eyes, breaking off hands, and hamstringing legs. There were hot brands, whips, and special implements for disemboweling. The exhibition presented photographs and testimonies of victims who had been blinded or crippled or suffered amputations for thievery. There was the shepherd whose master owed him a reimbursement in yuan and wheat but refused to pay. So he took one of the master’s cows; for this he had his hands severed. Another herdsman, who opposed having his wife taken from him by his lord, had his hands broken off. There were pictures of Communist activists with noses and upper lips cut off, and a woman who was raped and then had her nose sliced away.23
Earlier visitors to Tibet commented on the theocratic despotism. In 1895, an Englishman, Dr. A. L. Waddell, wrote that the populace was under the “intolerable tyranny of monks” and the devil superstitions they had fashioned to terrorize the people. In 1904 Perceval Landon described the Dalai Lama’s rule as “an engine of oppression.” At about that time, another English traveler, Captain W.F.T. O’Connor, observed that “the great landowners and the priests… exercise each in their own dominion a despotic power from which there is no appeal,” while the people are “oppressed by the most monstrous growth of monasticism and priest-craft.” Tibetan rulers “invented degrading legends and stimulated a spirit of superstition” among the common people. In 1937, another visitor, Spencer Chapman, wrote, “The Lamaist monk does not spend his time in ministering to the people or educating them. . . . The beggar beside the road is nothing to the monk. Knowledge is the jealously guarded prerogative of the monasteries and is used to increase their influence and wealth.”24 As much as we might wish otherwise, feudal theocratic Tibet was a far cry from the romanticized Shangri La so enthusiastically nurtured by Buddhism’s western proselytes.
This somewhat silly. Black folks are the originators of piracy (The Bootleg). Most black people don’t buy CDs or go to i-tunes, they go to message boards and blogs and download that shit!
Does the Stuff White People Like include things like
Truth, Equality and Justice?
http://www.survival-international.org
Do what you want cuz a pirate is free, you are a pirate!
Yar har fiddly dee bein a pirate tis alright with me, do what you want cus a pirate is free, you are a pirate! you are a pirate!
We got us a map, that leads us to a hidden box! thats all locked up with locks and buried deep away! We’ll dig up the box, we know its full of of precious booty, we’ll open the locks
AND THEN WE’LL SAY HURRAY!
Totally!
white people like “;” and like to boast about the fact that they know how to use it.
Come on! So many of the things you write about white people are true for many North Americans in general! And what is with the anti-left bias? I’ll grant you that some of the stuff on this site is clever, but a lot of it is not about white people. Also, I will set the record straight – a lot of white people go to teach English for the MONEY…. it is only by accident that they realize how far superior asian girls are (i.e., not fat from growing up on McDonalds). lol
im getting tired of making wiseass but true rebuttals. so many nignogs asked me to make mixes in grade and high school since their black ass didnt know how to use napster or whatever. also all the peddlers in the shoebox stores or flea markets selling pirated shit sure arent white
i think he’s white
absolutely right!
Dinner party…..haha…..that is some gay ass shit
That white sound sure do get around!
haha I use it all the time; it can be used like period, sans the period
I can tell the 192 – 320 gap . its a horrible affliction
White people like vinyl, iPods, and Diplo remixes.
http://www.poorpeoplelikepizza.blogspot.com
-The people on here who complain that the site is racist and say things like, “But other people besides whites do this too!” are funny because they have no clue. “Why the anti-left bias?” Hilarious….because we’re talking about elitist upper-crust white people here! Why do you think?
-The guy who keeps trying to push his crappy John McCain blog by spamming all over this GOOD blog is also lame.
actually the niquist criteria says that you need to sample at least 2x the frequency of the wave you wish to reproduce. this would means that 40Khz would be fine for cd’s, the actual rate is somewhere between 40~50kHz. So everything is cool right?
Wrong. WRONG. you lose. you stole fizzy lifting drinks… oh wait, sorry. I was in the wrong rant
the problems is aliasing. I can’t heare it but I accept that it could be there
“I like me some” is absolutely a favorite phrase beginner of mine. It’s the best white redneck phrase and it’s become just funny.
“I’m a” (whatever – “chinese food loving” for example) “mother f—er”
is also a favorite.
Dear Absent: whatever race you may be, it is odd that you conflate the political Left with “elitist upper-crust white people”. People with leftist ideology generally want to help the poor and achieve social equality. You should be focusing on the political Right, or more specifically, the people within that group who want the opposite of social equality. Thank God I live in Canada, where we still have some semblance of diverse political thought….as well as WAY less race-relations problems than the US…at least as these problems are evidenced on this site. …all of that said, I agree with you that the Mcain spammer is lame, as is the guy or gal who posts “I pooped my pants” on ever topic.
bloody ‘ell.
same in australia, all the bleeding hearts want to go back and pay for the invasion 200 years ago. get the fuck over it, the english came here and conquered a bunch of scattered tribes, not and organised ‘nation’ they still living with the dogs and abusing their kids, when do people take responsibilities for their own actions. harden the fuck up.
he hates Polaroids too
“expert”, “advanced” and “elite” white people
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Stuff White People Should LOVE = intelligent political analysis. Get it @ http://www.savagepolitics.com
Check out the article “We are the puppets”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://savagepolitics.com/?p=271
the funniest thing about this site is while it aims to make fun of the current vanguard of liberal crackatude, it actually represents it. white people love making fun of themselves, in fact the humor of this blog is a direct progression from #52 sarah silverman, #50 irony, and the ethnic comedy of repeatedly mentioned dave chappelle (not yet mentioned about that though is that white people LOVE it when they find out the other dude who wrote the chappelle’s show was white because they know dave’s not one of those stick-to-their-own kind who make them uncomfortable). “HA-HA…WE ARE SOOO LAME” or is that the joke, the entire website? fuck. anyway the amount to which a white person will accept/come up with racial jokes about their own race is directly proportional to how insecure they are about themselves being racist. this is a dangerous avenue though which can expose the volatility of 21st century crackatude; go too far and the white person will suddenly crack, flip over on themselves, and suddenly start making jokes about fried chicken or drive-bys or point out how “they” invented everything
PB&J, you are the problem with Australia… We systematically dismantle a cultures social fabric for 200 years and wonder why they can’t sort themselves out.
The revolution is coming Pig Fucker and you’ll be first against the wall…
ghettoMcUrkel?! my god you just made my day thank you
Hello this is the Summer song for this summer in Spain
http://guzmanear.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/king-africa-y-rodolfo-chiquilicuatre-baila-el-chiki-chiki/
Regards from Spain
But, in the phrase “Bitch-made-niggas”, the bitch doesn’t actually refer to the man, but instead to the woman controlling the man, right? So it’s still calling a woman a bitch. Sort of like the phrase “Son of a bitch”–the person being insulted isn’t the bitch, his mother is the bitch.
lol…i got ALL the songs in my iPod for free lol 😉
http://www.Shop-Luscious.com
no they were transfered form my cds
Stealing music Thats so racist lol
On a serius note would any of you white music fans like the floowing rappers. Hip Hop is really tired of them.
Souljah boy-
Jibbs-
Mims-
http://aniggaincyberspace.com/2008/04/11/black-nerd-revolution/
What will become of music piracy now that we can make free online mix tapes:
http://solipcyst.blogspot.com
HMMM?
Plus, the ethnics are renowned for “bootlegging” (see rap lyrics threatening death to bootleggaz) and have camcordered movies for sale in their districts. So in this respect they may have surpassed whites.
Luke
http://solipcyst.blogspot.com
White People (hipsters mostly) also love ipod hijackings
http://westofwabansia.wordpress.com/
I would totally be down to work on “Stuff Mexicans Like” project if I had the time.
As a person who’s had experience first hand with Tibetan Buddhism and what it had once stood for, I can safely assume that your knowledge of Tibetan Buddhism is based on the universal accepted doctrines of Buddhism in general. The Tibetan sect of Buddhism is not so honorable as you think. Their special attention to something akin to mysticism and rigid social and religious hierarchy is a perversion of Buddhist principles.
if you not hood you don’t know what i’m talkin boutttttttttttttttt……………….
http://www.wherehiphoplives.tk
This whole blog is full of fail.
BOB, that’s a white persons name…
Very funny post, and so right on the money.
Must now get back to downloading my legal music.
The Argentine Post
http://www.theargentinepost.com/
I have a rational, philosophical and political argument for why it should be okay to get “free” music: with all the changing delivery systems of music through the years, I’ve spent half my lifetime salary on it. First there were 78’s–I kid you not. Then 45’s, then LPs, and on to tapes, CDs and now digital. I have bought some music collections in three incarnations (LPs, tapes and CDs). I’ll be damned if I’ll feel guilty for finally getting a song without paying for it.
That rational is OK for older music that you’ve bought before but what about the current batch of musicians? Don’t they deserve to make a living?
What would be the point of producing new music if there was NO profit in it.
To my mind, the best way to combat piracy is to lower the price of music. It’s the fat-cat over-paid record company executives that are screwing up the whole industry by being so greedy.
If you’re trying not to look ignorant, a good first step would be to refrain from taking an entire speech of political scientist Michael Parenti ( located on his website at http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html )and posting it as your own thoughts.
SUGGESTION FOR STUFF WHITE PEOPLE LIKE: CLICHES
this is the single funniest piece of writing that i have read in weeks and weeks.
every white kid does this
White people like car alarms.
That would be amazing. I am picturing it now. Low rider pickups, dead peoples’ social security numbers, immigration reform, Yard work. I hope it happens.
If i couldn’t steal music, how would I know what concerts I wanted to go to? Hmmm…
You buy CDs? I have not bought a CD since 1998. White people loved Napster.
“You’ll have to pry my iPod (all 3000 pirated and proud!) out of my cold dead hands you corporate bastards!!”
*yawn* — why do people like this site so much? The guy is an ok writer, but his entries look like things I wrote when I was 13. If you really want insight, write an entry on depression and suicide – the whole sum of the white experience. But it’s ok … you don’t have to take such chances … living by fear, not of hope, is the white dream, comfort warped luxury; universally persistent and bad, the worst of nature’s offings.
yeah……. pretty sure everyone in the music industry is pretty over paid…… I mean seriously…. listen to some of the music being produced…. or most for that matter…. I’d rather beat my head against the wall then know that the likes of Ms. Spears are getting richer and richer.
And after the dust settles, only happyjack remains.
With the Stuff White People Like blog officially slain, it’s time for me to move on to more challenging prey. Perhaps I’ll meet some of you on my next target.
Stuff White People Like died on April 17th, 2008. RIP.
No, say it’s not so! Where are you going? I love your writing..please give me a forwarding website as soon as possible. You are wonderful! Don’t let these stupid blog comments bring you down!!
lilly
Yes, Ralph Duncan is definately white.
Really? Wonderful? You have a big hole in your life if you need a forwarding website as soon as possible, Lilly.
Get a life!
I’m calling for to talk to you.
Women become a dick when they get a chicboner.
Vinyl has a lower dynamic range and is more prone to “corruption” for lack of a better word (read: dust). Jose’s gotcha there.
However, vinyl reproduces stereo separation more convincingly (I didn’t say “better”). Chantal’s gotcha there.
Digital vs. analog. Go!
You can have it back, now…we’ve fucked it up enough.
You’re welcome.
nigs
White people love music piracy…so much in fact, that VW is using the inventor of napster in its commericals now, and they essentially say that he should get an award for how much people like him…
Mostly I think white people love music piracy because it is illegal, and that’s obvious, but it feels like you’re “sticking it to ‘The Man'” (AKA other white people) when you do it…which aligns them with other things they like, such as diversity, hating corporations, irony, etc.
another funny blog…
http://www.artgonewrong.blogspot.com
I’m a failed musician who tries to sell music on the internet and pretty much no one buys it, but when I gave all my albums away on the internet archive for around a year, people downloaded the songs by the thousands. Wah Wah! Yeah…fuck you…whatever. But it’s sort of like this (although not exactly): Uh, hey, dude, thanks for mowing my grass/washing my car/waiting on me at a restaurant/serving me at the bank/teaching my kid/etc etc…but I like don’t feel like paying you for what you did, so do you mind if we skip that part? Yeah, I know you had to pay for gas to get to work and buy clothes and all that shit, but I just really don’t feel like paying for your services ’cause I’m all cool like that…and besides, you’ve been paid in the past and I don’t see where I should add to your financial well-being. Cool!
Now go to my web site and order a song. Thanks!
http://www.bookofkills.com
“Advanced white people”
EPIC lolz
Most but not all. Some are made in China, and some are still made in USA.
Dude, you know your stuff. hehe.
don’t be so cynical. you’re much to young for that
future blog: blogging. white people like blogging, even more so, they like replying to threads.
what on earth does the color of ones skin have to do with anything…
Oh, Bitch is also a female dog!
This here is some bullshit. White people don’t pirate music: EVERYONE pirates music. It cuts across racial lines!
EVERYONE likes stealing music.
No one has mentioned open source?
I’m half-white, and I think that pirating music is theft. Maybe I’m just not white enough.
That is a ridiculous, disgusting statement. Living here does not mean you support the genocide. There have been many atrocities committed in the U.S. : Japanese taken to internment camps, the overall treatment of African Americans (slavery, segregation, lynchings), the invasion of Hawaii, just to name a few, but living in this country does not mean you support these things. I dare you to name a country that has a completely clean history, free of bloodshed, corruption, or wrongdoings.
I am a minority and I do not think of myself as superior to whites because of colonization, imperialism, and genocide. I am intelligent enough to know that these tragedies do not reflect the mentality of every single white person.
And for your information, people move here from different countries not necessarily because they agree with US politics, but because there are signficantly more economic opportunities here than in some countries.
The phrase “jumped the shark” sure has jumped the shark, once lowly blog posters are using one blogs they’re reading.
What kind of race are we talking about? Foot race? Car race? Horse race?
I thought the topic was music piracy.
If music = nazi I’m outta here.
Well, there is now a site called Stuff Latin People Like:
http://stufflatinpeoplelike.com
I did not post it as my own thoughts…I prefaced the whole statement by saying it was “documented and footnoted”. Then, a colon follows and a long script from an article follows. It even has the fucking footnotes from the article! What indicates that am I the documentor? That is all you can come up with?
Anyone can make strawman/ad hominem argument, but no one has yet to challenge the facts.
LOL you must view http://www.youarewhatyoulistento.blogspot.com
Look…I just don’t want to pay for it. No agenda, just being cheap.
All ur base r belong 2 us!
I love dashes–I wouldn’t know what to do with myself if I couldn’t toss a few dashes into the mix. Seriously–as though I don’t appear serious to begin with–I really think dashes add that something special to whatever I am writing (although parentheses are pretty damn close in the pecking order of punctuation). 🙂
Musical piracy (and copyright theft) is not biased to skin color, but I suspect that it is in the case of Metallica fans. Count me out of the last group.
This is one of the dumbest blogs I have ever read…Thanks for wasting moments of my life that I will never get back, idiot.
and black people selling pirated movies love money
I don’t know… Music piracy sounds more Asian than white.
This is a dumb one music piracy is popular with EVERYONE and i think white people (older white people) are the only ones that actually pay for music now days.
I don’t know. Are asians white or is there some other color designation for them? Seems like asians have issues with speed (notice the honda rice rockets on the road) and loud music (notice the loud expensive sound systems that pound your guts to oblivion if you happen to be in line in front or behind one of them at In N’ Out drive through (sp?). Does steeling music really cross racial lines? I think its more of a teenager thing than a race thing.
Let me guess this was written by some black guy i would use another word for black but i’m sure you know what i’m thinking
You take things far too seriously, and I strongly doubt that you were a sophisticated writer at 13, but if you were, please post some of your insightful articles.
The “observations” in the “article” are on point – people, mostly white people, hoard illegal music for general-purpose snobbery – and well deserved.
And to those who agree in this section that you shouldn’t be “feeding the corporations,” think of it this way, if you actually like these artists, and listen to them, why the hell would you not keep supporting the companies that keep them funded and happy? No, I’m not equating your not-purchasing-that-one-CD to
bankrupting the artist, but when you convince other idiots that it’s an appropriate response to the amassing of artists under these “super labels” you’re only hurting the artists.
Support/purchase music directly from artists when you can, see them at shows and buy merch, but don’t avoid purchasing their album just to spite the record label. You’ll more times than not get inferior quality and you lose out on a tangible connection with the artist.
And if it’s about money, which for some it certainly is, go ahead and download.
I know lots of people (including myself) who don’t pirate music. But my friends and I do have ridiculously large music collections.
http://death-sentences.blogspot.com/
How the hell do you know so much about white people?
seriously, even i never thought about how truly white i am.
are you white?
hey erbody loves this. who doesn’t love free stuff lol
fuck u racist bitch
“Obama is black to white people, though his lineage is 1/2 white, he is black. white folks follow the 1 drop rule for black folks, so 3/4 black is black. hell, even 1/4 black is black.”
actually black people follow this rule. they encourage it. a single drop of black blood and they claim you, and then cry murder if they don’t think you are acting/thinking black enough.
anyways, white people…
http://www.mininova.org/tor/1507343
CBC The Munk Debates – Is The World Better Off With A Republican In The Whitehouse
Dude…
“He will likely rattle off statistics about how most musicians don’t make any money from albums, it all comes from touring and merchandise. So by attending shows, he is able to support the musicians while simultaneously striking a blow against multinational corporations. He will proceed to walk you through the process of how record labels are set up to reward the corporation and fundamentally rob the artist of their rights, royalties and creativity”
it’s all true 🙂
“In the even more rare situation where someone says “it’s all paid for, and it’s all transferred from vinyl.” You have found an expert level white person and must treat the situation carefully.”
That’s classic 🙂
I just find my friends with the largest pirated collections and simply rape it to my hard drive-hundreds of hours of their hard work in the middle of the night in 20 minutes… A wink and a smile helps. And wow do I get mad if they have a good free song downloaded in bad quality!
It started out as a white thing. Then a white college thing. Notice no real big arrest or hard jail time. Now non-whites having been catching on, hence you will start to see arrests in larger number. Doors will be knocked down, laws passed, and charges like assault, robbery, grand larceny, trespassing, etc will be attached to each criminal case.. Whites will cluck their teeth, and sigh, look at those animals. The end:)
It started out as a white thing, then, a white college thing. Notice, no real big arrest or hard jail time. Now non-whites have caught on, hence, you will start to see arrests in larger numbers. Doors will be knocked down, laws passed, and charges like assault, robbery, grand larceny, trespassing, etc will be attached to each criminal case.. Whites will cluck their teeth, and sigh, “Look at those animals”. The end:)
I love free, pirated music. Its way better than paying for it..
Actually, most of my black friends are ALWAYS buying albums.
I f******* HATE music piracy.
I agree that unfortunately the corporations run everything and take a huge percent of the profits, but that is changing slowly with musicians setting up their own lables etc.
Oh, and I have many white friends who almost completely own ripoff CD’s. Its not right.
The music industry is F*d up enough, lets not add to it.
Respect
Respect to you too. Are you a musician or is it a moral opinion? Just curious.
Proud of your words my son…
In my day the B word was dark. In this day the B word is light. That word is still dark to me and I prefer it to stay with the original meaning which belongs to a female dog in heat. Well when I think of men calling each other dog the B word fits ok in that senario.
Ralph Duncans may be definately white, if so maybe I’m not his mom because I’m not white. Must have been a mix-up in the hospital before I took the baby home. I guess it was darker in my day then I think. Wow, you talk about a wake up call. Well, I enjoyed raising the child anyway.
I still love that w…???? boy.
Uhmm…so his father was cheating on me…wonder did she like the child she raised, never mind…I don’t want to know!!!!
If you look further up, you will see where some thought that Ralph Duncans was white because of one of his comments.
I’ve been making records as an audio engineer / producer for over 30 years. File sharing has all but wrecked the main stream record business, which is both good and bad. The recording contracts issued by major labels to most first time artists were little more than sharecropping. It was structured so that the artist was loaned money against future royalties, from which he / she had to pay all audio / video / promotion costs, therefore the artist was ALWAYS in debt to the label. The major labels could do that because they had a strangle hold on the distribution network. Not anymore. Now, more than 90% of my client base are independents or individual musicians themselves, who use their own money to produce, promote and distribute their recordings. So chances are good that if you are stealing music made now, you are stealing from musicians and not the corporate parasites.
I thought this site exaggerated how white people behave… after reading some of these comments I guess I was wrong.
I started off pirating music before it was called piracy. Oh how I long for the good old days of Napster and Audiogalaxy when there were just a few of us sharing our songs instead of ten million people. Let the world in on a good thing and soon the powers that be will find a way to regulate it. I didn’t think of it as “stealing,” but rather sharing music I love with people who could appreciate it and reciprocate. That was back in the day of ratio sharing. But now, as of three years now, I have been purchasing my music. It’s the right moral thing to do, but I have to admit, the music industry with their rights restrictions and media licenses yada yada certainly try to push you back to the dark side.
As if. Usenet, bitch. You were late. We were posting our vinyl rips before your daddy even spilt ya, and even then, we were so ridiculously white.
Don’t own an ipod. Own less than 100 CD’s.
Holy shit man. That’s so hardcore. Color me impressed
I don’t own a TV either! (This is also on the list.) I tell ya, I’m just so cool, my brain is frozen!
I guess the comedy of this site, contrasts with a serious conversation, but one thing I can throw out there is that a lot of people download and never even listen to the music, or maybe only once. If buying was the only option, a lot of those albums would not be bought, because people are unsure about them and don’t want to spend $15 on a dud. Downloading allows them to not do that, but they tend to be duds anyways. So downloading a bunch of shitty music you never listen to really doesn’t take away from artists that make them, because if you had no other choice but to buy, you wouldn’t have bought in the first place. And even with the music free to download, the listener still doesn’t get utility out of shitty music. So nobody gets anything!
Also, there is this notion that utility can only be achieved by owning something. But it’s entirely possible that someone can spend $30 on a CD and get $30 of utility out of it, and then sell it used and still have that utility. So then someone else buys it used, with money that never goes to the artist, because it was already purchased. And they in turn get utility from the CD. So you have two people getting maximum utility from one CD, and the artist only getting paid for one CD. Can you blame a used CD store for ripping off artists? Just because somebody doesn’t own something anymore, doesn’t mean they can’t get utility from it. They can remember it, associate it with something pleasant, etc. Just like you can still love even if you’re separated physically from what you love.
This site is a blog. It’s comedy. Why do people try to post serious comments or argue about the posts? Shut up and read. Enjoy yourself, bitches. It’s a celebration.
yeah man, tv’s rot your brain anyhow =P
i tried not to own an ipod, but i was given one for free. Won’t pay for accessories, though
music business is still growing, it’s just not the same people who make the money. the majors need to move on to organizing tours or go down. everything else is taken care of by new media.
it’s clear that the few people who used to earn ridiculous amounts and don’t earn that much now, run around screaming ‘piracy’.
if you want to pay for music, do it. i buy records sometimes too, but piracy is not the problem.
The music industry is run by coked-up jew crooks who hate you and charged you exorbitant sums od money to get one goosd song and 10 shitty songs on a CD. They are crooks! If u can get music for free,by all means do it.
haha! this site is actually hilarious!
whereas you make a few good points, i think you missed the main idea. its A JOKE! Chill and take 2 aspirin
WHITE MAN
Your day’s never over,
Your work’s never through!
Though you’ve tamed most of the heathen and the barbarians too!
‘Massa, thanks for ‘lectricity and the (Ah So!) internet too!
WHITEMAN, THE WHOLE WORLD’S DEPENDING ON YOU!
They tried to say that ‘you can’t jump’.
But, you made it to the moon without having to dunk.
You might not have much rhythm,
But you can (steal) carry a good tune,
WHITEMAN, THE WHOLE WORLD’S DEPENDING ON YOU!
You made it through civil rights and women’s lib too,
You’ve been through a lot, good buddy, no wonder you can sing the blues!
If the world’d open their eyes, they’d see that in the past you’re not really stuck,
Even though you still fly a rebel flag, at least it’s on a Japanese pickup truck!
Black may be beautiful, and tan may be grand,
But white’s still the color of the BIG BOSS MAN!
’Ask not’ (J.F.K.) whether it’s true,
WHITEMAN, THE WHOLE WORLD’S DEPENDING ON YOU!
The world doesn’t understand your level of stress,
Every minute’s a Malox moment, but that’s the price of success!
You watch your laptop for the first sign of loss,
Well, it’s time you paid the cost to be the boss!
Don’t drop the ball now and lose the home court advantage,
Or we’ll all have to say the pledge of allegiance in Spanish!(‘Press Uno for English’)
Only you can straighten out the world’s condition,
‘Cause you were properly conceived in the missionary position!
Stand up like a white man and do your white duty,
Or we’ll all be blown to hell by sheik your booty!
ASK NOT whether, Hillary or Obama can rule,
WHITE MAN, THE WHOLE WORLD’S DEPENDING ON YOU!
Sincerely,
Uncle Sambone
(The love-child of Uncle Sam & one
Of his female slaves)
In memory of Col. Paul Tibbets, Pilot of the Enola Gay, and all the faithful sidekicks of
‘Bwana’ …..(next page)
Jimmy Olson (Superman)
Lightning (Amos & Andy)
Poncho (Cisco Kid)
Tonto (Lone Ranger)
Robin (Batman)
Pepina (The Real McCoys)
Cheetah (Tarzan)
Trigger (Roy Rangers)
Birmingham (Charlie Chan…A whiteman in disguise)
Mingo (Daniel Boone)
Kato (The Green Horne)
Rin-Tin-Tin (If Custer had had him, he might have won!)
Rochester (Jack Benny)
Timmy (Lassie, was a ‘white’ dog!)
Uncle Ben/Aunt Jemima (Betty Crocker)
Chester & Festus (Mat Dillion, a protégé’ of John Wayne, who didn’t need a sidekick!)
Barnie Fife (Andy Griffin)
‘Condor’leeza Rice (W.)
to be fair, most vinyl users offset their not buying cd’s by spending ridiculous amount of money on rareish records.
case in point: hardcore kids.
i feel there is a flipside to this – white people who feel that they should follow the law when it comes to music and movies and say that piracy is what’s wrong with the music or movie industry. then *these* white people feel they have something up on other white people.
Just like anything, it’s got pros and cons.
A Headz comp CD will run you about $50 or you can download it from somewhere free. Kind of a no brainer there folks.
Discovering an artist from somewhere in the middle of Scandinavia isn’t going to happen at your local Best Buy.
You can pick up a lot of CDs used for a few bucks on ebay. Downloading it for free doesn’t hurt the artist, just the ebay seller and the ebay pocketbook.
Some downloads have led me to actually purchase the music, often seeking it on limited edition vinyl. Other downloads have made me realize I’m glad I didn’t spend any money on it.
Bootlegs, rarities, out of print CDs, music never issued on CD, it’s all out there being shared. How do you resist?
You can’t really blame the one downloading for free.
Someone is out there offering it all up for free.
Hahahahaha!!! Okay, so I’m the “wrong kind” of white person. Actually, that label pretty much fits me on most of your other articles too. I think I’m actually proud of that. (I’m a Libertarian/Constitutionalist – yeah, I like politics – hate liberals and eveything they stand for. And for the record my kids don’t know what race is. They refer to everybody by their shirt color. You’ll have to tell me whether that’s “white” or not.)
On the flip side, my oldest brother is the vinyl guy. Do NOT get him started talking about albums or music. It’s true, you will be sucked in for literally hours talking about musicians you’ve never heard of.
vinyl collectors also give opporotunities for jobs, woohoo $100 an hour to sort albums!
Piracy, this new favorite subject to western society mankind. This has been goin on in asia for ages, and the have not only been spreading music, they also charged people for it.
Get your act together, there’s legal download services available now and you can frakkin afford to pay for a $9,99 album!!!
Grumpy Man
For the Puerto Rican that I am…. I had a collection of records more than the picture of the young man with his collection…
I had more that 1,500 records. I was into the Rock Music Scene. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zepplien, The Who, The list just goes on and on. No Salsa, or any Spanish Music listed.
WOW!!! That makes White, Right???
much regards,
Frank
I have to totally disagree on this one. Music piracy is wrong. Just like pirated movies are wrong. Just likes taking a pair of jeans from the Gap is wrong.
That being said, I’ve been known to “borrow” music from LimeWire on occasion, but only for music I normally wouldn’t purchase or typically listen to. For Kanye or 50 Cent, I’ll go to LimeWire, but for The Killers or Coldplay, I’ll buy it on iTunes.
http://twowhiteboys.com/2008/
Well not to sound too southern but you never see “white” people at the flea market selling boot leg CD’s like you do see “black” people.
wow!!!
of all the things you can say to try and make minorities feel better about themselves in relation to our white status, trying to come across with a message that white people like stealing?
use some logic…
here is what you are saying:
white people love piracy,
piracy = stealing,
white people approve of stealing.
but here is the problem:
IF
white people love piracy, and
piracy = stealing
wouldn’t that make white people like black people more?
and if the quantity makes any difference i would think white people love blacks and mexicans more than their own children.
You’ve obviously never met the Russians before.
I approve of pirating music not because of its moral value but because I like free shit.
Free food rocks. Free music rocks even more.
free rock rocks
I also like free shit. I’m a cheap little bitch who hates to pay for anything. But man this site is funny.
“nah bro, I don’t give a shit, Dave Matthews has enough money as it is.” lol
There are people who pay to listen to music on the web I mean anything their heart desires.
But what a lot of people don’t know is that there is free software out there that are called sound card recorders and they will record and sound that your computer makes from the sound card dig? Which means you can record any song in mp3 format for your mp3 players or wave format to make cds.
http://www.culturallycool.com/musicindex.html
well historically white’s are known for stealing. Haven’t you heard of imperialism?
lol
I love this because it it true
i did new cds…
*cough*
I’ve been known to “borrow” jeans from the GAP that I would normally never buy.
I also like to go to the library and copy entire books on the xerox machine but it’s never as easy as just stealing the book. Grins.
As Heidi Klum would say… “White on.”
I buy my music exclusively from Russian bootleggers. They do mighty fine work.
The batshit crazy suits of the RIAA need to get real jobs. Their free ride robbing the artists is over. I’ll buy discs and MP3s from local artists, but I’m real reluctant to pay anything to the big record companies. About everyone I know feels the same. What is is with successful bands and artists always in debt to the company? Why are no royalties paid on albums which have gone platinum? Being signed to a major label seems to be the new slavery.
Music downloading is a RIGHT. Call it piracy or whatever you want. Our forefathers fought in WWII against Hitler and his armies so we can have the freedom to download music for free. Record companies are just another way to dictate what you listen to. Dictate=Hitler=Record Label…see my point. It’s that simple.
I don’t plan on ever paying another cent for music ever again. I already have spent thousands of dollars on CDs that were grossly overpriced. A CD costs about 2 cents to make yet the record companies were charging the public $22. Karma’s a b!tch for those execs who were rolling in the dough before mp3s came along.
The only music I have bought since my cd collection was stolen was the online radiohead release, largely becuase white people like to feel like they are supporting the artist (especially indie stuff) instead of the music industry. I download free music because I like to think that musicians have to make music for the artform rather for profits. But really I’m just a cheap ass. It’s really scary how much of this crap is true….
thepiratebay.org is our enlightened guide
You want free music? Go make your own.
http://www.culturallycool.com/musicindex.html
White people are the ones who started piracy in the first place and nowadays they’re the ones going around and talking about intellectual property rights!!
My dorm’s got a “FACTS ABOUT SHARING FILES ONLINE” up on a billboard. I badly want to print out the yelling white guy image macro, with the words “Good Luck – I’m behind five proxies!” on it and stick it into an inconspicuous corner of that thing.
Although I have to admit I don’t pirate music – just download or rip game music soundtracks from stuff I already own. And yeah, I have an original LP (singular) of game music from the 80s, so I’m somewhere between “elite” and “socially regressive obsessive”
God, some of you sound like Metallica… I have many friends in touring bands that actually TELL people to get their music however possible, because they want more people to listen to them and get their name out there.
I know that obviously, with the huge bands (ie Metallica, etc) their name is out there and has been for years and years, and they’re past wanting that, but to a point, I think that they have sold out their original beliefs on why they started the band in the first place; they’ve gone to the dark side of the music scene: corporate. They’re ridiculously wealthy already, and crybabies. They deserve it.
limewire ftw!!
All this time, I thought I was a poor, brown kid who liked music. It turns out that I’m like a designer-impostor Caucasian!
limewire ftl. I don’t like viruses overrunning my computer, thanks..
Bit torrents ftw!
Yes!
solarseek. yup. just because i pirate music doesn’t mean i don’t buy it too. i definitely buy more music since i started downloading compared to before i pirated.
No. Everyone knows dowloading music illegally is wrong, and no one actually defends themselves (anymore). That’s mostly because EVERYONE does it, and everyone knows that everyone does it, and everyone knows that it’s illegal. The point is that just because a white person admits to being a criminal doesn’t mean the white person beleives he or she is a criminal.
(stuff white people like: gender neutrality)
this is so funny! and so true
that is so true… I am a vinyl girl myself and have fallen into the weekly cd category far to often, but it is still funny to hear people talk about it!
ractist maybe?
you should not say white people this……. dark skin people that….. wow reall badd
THAT’S RACIST
I Farted
This is so true D:
Except my Asian friends are more likely to pirate music then my white friends.
But damn vinyl is amazing.
two words: Pandora Radio
LOL, it’s a stereotype, but it’s not racist. Whoever wrote this is sooooo funny! I love it! Whoever says that it’s racist is shallow and has no humor. Minorities are stereotyped 24/7. So take it!!!LOL
it’s better than mix-tapes
go limewire
Bullshit! Copyright protection is established to protect the copyrights of the recording industry. If this jackass wants to mock the argument simply because he has no counter for it, that’s his right, but it doesn’t change the fact that the recording industry has been stealing from both the artists and the consumers for a half century +. A beginning artist is offered a number of “points” against album sales. The way it went for my band was we were offered 12 points by a major label with the proviso that we had to sign away our publishing rights. It turns out that the publishing rights are the only way an artist makes any money at all on a record, because the points are a percentage recouped against promotional fees. So the band gets 12% of each album’s sale to apply against the huge gout of money the label has expended to promote the album. You never wind up in the green on that deal, because the more the album sells, the more the label spends promoting it Publishing rights, on the other hand, actually work out to a concrete 7 cents per song, which is why they want you to sign them over. How many bands have been reamed by these deals? At the other end, it costs the industry about fifty cents to make a CD, and they sell it to you for fifteen dollars, so even after all the costs of recording and promotion are factored in the label is making a fortune. The manufacturing costs of albums were closer to six or seven dollars per disc, and the average retail was about ten, so the industry produced their campaign in the late eighties to “phase out” vinyl, beacuse of the “crystal clarity” and “virtual indestructability” of CDs – what a crock. If you have a decent turntable, some wax, and a pair of ears, you can hear a significant improvement in tonal ambience and warmth from a vinyl recording. It just sounds more “alive”. And the digital encoding on a CD wears out over time, not to mention the ease of skip-causing scratches, whereas most scratches on vinyl cause a slight “popping” noise, but no skip. But there was less profit in the industry, so out it went. So if you’re trying to get me to feel sorry for the “poor recording industry”, who everyone is taking advantage of (most of my friends are black. They have no qualms about piracy.) then you’re barking up the wrong tree. The RIAA’s been on top for fifty years. Now it’s your turn.
Your argument is totally irrelevant because you have overlooked another thing white people like:
https://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/30/40-indie-music/
This totally debunks your argument as it relies heavily on the major label business model.
I don’t know which is sadder; the bitter never-quite-made-it artist or the recording industry. Flip a coin.
well being most of the stuff I have downloaded is from live shows that were recorded by tappers where does that place me ?
Ahahahaha. You really mean to tell me that letting the record company have the lion’s share of the profits off the record ISN’T worth the price of entry in terms of garnering national exposure, making lots of money touring, and the ever-elusive mainstream fame? That’s BEYOND ridiculous. If it works out for you, and you’re afraid the record company’s taking SO MUCH of your money, just do what Radiohead did and release online.
about vinyl. Inherent tonal differences? I call bullshit there. Placebo effect. I’ve listened to vinyl and CDs on high quality equipment for years. It’s all about the care taken in recording. If you’re listening to one of the 12 artists that still records with analog, like the White Stripes, sure, vinyl will sound best because you never have to worry about analog-to-digital transfer. But if you’re listening to the other 99% of artists that record exclusively digitally, CDs will sound just as good or better as long as the proper care is taken in mastering.
Note the last part of that: mastering. The best example I can give as an exception to the general rule is Red Hot Chili Peppers’ latest album, Stadium Arcadium. The digital master was atrocious. They did what an overwhelming majority of record producers do now, thanks to the idiotic recording policies that developed around the rap boom of the late 90s, and they made everything loud, because for some reason they think that loud music gets more radio play automatically. The soft parts were loud. They loud parts were loud. It was horrible.
Then, when they were putting it on vinyl, someone volunteered to remaster it for them. They returned it to its original recorded form: the quiet parts were quiet, the loud parts were loud, nothing was distorted. It was great. But it wasn’t about the medium. It was about the care being taken in the recording process. So don’t tell me vinyl and piracy aren’t fads for their own sake.
Your so stupid, this site is great! He pegged you.
So the record music industry, the WHOLE record music industry is the MAN.
What about the people who worked at recording studios, record stores,manufacturing plants, record labels,publishing companies, distributors etc etc?
Do you now how many classic recording studios are gone?
Record stores? IF you don’t live in a big city chances are you won’t even have one in your town.
Your not supporting music, your killing it
i love how people are talking seriously about an article that is taking the piss out of them – without realising the sarcastic nature of it – and go on arguing about the minor details or record companies and music piracy… its hilarious…
No shit – it’s SATIRE people.
I’ve never understood why people insist vinyl sounds better.
This explains it. Doesn’t ‘trying to be cool’ explain most illogical public behavior?!
people insist that it sounds better cause it does (or at least it should in theory), the grooves in the record contain the most accurate representation of the original waveform produced by the instruments (a purely analog recording), digital simply replicates these waveforms at sample rates most ears probably wouldn’t catch anyway………damn, talk about contributing to the stereotype…….
Over all pretty true. I know I have downloaded a decent amount of music. But over all it’s more of cause I don’t care.
Over all decently funny, but probably only a B-
A lot of the “wrong kind of white people” read your blog. They get pretty pissed off too.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. That’s a myth. People like the “warm” sound of vinyl not because it provides a more accurate reproduction of the analog tape (it doesn’t), but because the very process of playing a vinyl record introduces DISTORTION, particularly with the amplification of overtones. it’s a nice effect, but it’s not on the original master tape. Lots of industry professionals, I’m sorry to say, don’t get this. And probably Steve Albini (there his name is again) perpetuates digital myths, too.
Couldn’t agree more, this is intelligent, funny stuff
HaHaHa…. Man when I read this I laughed so hard there was snot spewing from my nostrils. Being an older white guy with an enormous vinyl collection it’s so nice to know i’m held in such high regard. Now can I interest you in a mix tape of 60’s Canadian psych music…….
That should be a pretty small group then. First, they’re part of the ‘wrong type of white people,’ and then, they’re also stupid- if they’re offended by this blog at all.
I know for a fact I have purchased many CDs which I otherwise would have never discovered if not for P2p. How is this not a valid argument? Good riddance to the recording industry. True artists don’t do it for the money anways. The art is in no risk if dieing just an unfair industry schema which is being replaced by the internet in a system where people have a much larger selection of musicians to choose from.
People with large vinyl record collections today are insane. They are not insane because they have the collection; it is merely an indicator for their unfortunate condition.
vynil does sound better because it has a richer sound. If you have never experienced teh contrast on a very good analog system you will not be able to understand how having all those little digital bits connected by the continuous spectrum can inded make a diff.
Oh, and trying to be cool may indeed happen, but only if the individual in question makes a point out of constantly bragging about their collection regardless of the situational circumstances. If they enjoy their compulsion in relative onscurity they are simply OCD.
I’m not declaring anything here, but if I were against p2p and the downloading that came with it, here’s what I would think about it:
I’d see you as a guy who stole a Gap shirt or a bunch of chocolate bars just to see if you liked them. If you liked them enough, you would pay for new ones when you go back to get more. If you don’t go back to buy those new chocolate bars or Gap shirts , you’ll still keep the ones you stole without paying for them. It’s not likely that you’ll throw out. Instead you’ll eat it or wear it. You get to use it without paying a cent.
Thats why some people don’t buy your argument. But because you put it out there,
“artists don’t do it for the money anways”
Did you ask each one before you downloaded their product? Do they all think the same? They may not do it for the money but I think album sales look good to their label. I’m not sure if labels look at free downloads and say “We should offer these guys a contract! They are really popular with people who don’t buy CDs or pay to download!”
You see, the whole “It’s like stealing a T-shirt or chocolate bar” is invalid as well. If you steal a candy bar, no one else can buy that one bar. But an mp3 is just a copy.
I too download albums, and if I like them I buy them. If I don’t, I’m not out any money. Sometimes I don’t delete the ones I don’t love. It’s more like going to Baskin Robbins and trying a sample of every flavor. If you like one, you get a cone. If you don’t like any, you walk out, and probably are pretty full. The biggest difference is that there’s no ICIAA (Ice Cream Industry Association of America) threatening to sue you for taking the samples.
But your metaphor isn’t accurate either. The ice cream sample is still something that will not be returned (even though were getting down to minute little entities here). It’s not coming back. Baskin Robbins takes these losses voluntarily to get more sales. If you have 31 free samples and leave without buying anything, a lot of people will see that as being dishonest/unfair/cheap/opportunistic. You should at least pay a $1 tip for the good service you got and the time you wasted.
Furthermore, the artist doesn’t come out and say “I’m giving out samples!” as far as I know.
music sucks! see where it led?
Hahaha! Ima Pirate! I will even steal your record player!
White people want to be like other races and steal bigger things, like cars, tv sets, american express cards, etc, but really can’t, being that at night, they tend to stick out like sore thumbs.
Stealing music makes em feel like a homey without having to worry about blending unsuccessfully into the shadows.
Plus it is dumb trying to commit a crime with a registered gun. That would get you laughed at in the big house.
it’s called piracy for a reason. no matter what you (white or not) say, downloading music is illegal, AGAINST THE LAW. it might feel like the right thing to do, but it’s still a crime. face it.
and you might as well face the fact that you defend piracy just to look cool, indie, authentic, modern, original,… white.
by the way, i do download music. about 25GB of stolen music.
What a coincidence, I believe Chinese people ALSO love piracy… you see, the world gets smaller every day
LOL I’m white and I haven’t bought a CD in years.
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.
Another elite comment to make is that most of your mp3 collection contains albums which are out-of-print, therefore supporting the artist by purchasing the albums is impossible. You should, however, also follow this by saying that you have attempted to find the used LP’s at your local used record store and gemm.com, but with no success.
Yeah whats the deal when I down load Toby Keith from Kazza why the hell does it beep in the middle of his song…. Makes you not ever want to buy the CD probably beeps on that too… Piracy has been around for years… Time to break out the Cassette Tape Deck and DUb me some copies….
Has anyone here seen the South Park episode about music Piracy? So Paul McCartney can’t give another ex-wife a few more of our dollars…FUCK OFF. The fact is, so many musicians talk about how they’re not in it for the money…it’s all about the music man! Then douchebags like Metallica change their minds and decide to sue college kids for thousands of dollars that they don’t have. If a new band that is really good but not that big yet, I may spend $15 of my hard-earned money on their album…but the truth is that most commercial music today is shit anyway. So please excuse me while I go illegally download Physical Graffiti…I doubt Robert Plant is wiping tears out of his eyes.
Another thought…
As I pay taxes, I am technically a partial owner of materials purchased by my local library. Wouldn’t this inherently give me the right to copy music cd’s that they purchase, if only for personal use?
I don’t necessarily think it’s right or wrong. The fact that it’s even an argument seems somewhat ridiculous. If a band is smart, they can use this sort of thing to their advantage. One example is Wilco. In 2001 Reprise gave Wilco rights to their latest album for free when they dropped them from the label for not producing something commercially appealing. Wilco didn’t want low quality mp3s of the songs out before they signed with a new company, so they released the full length album for free on their website in September. I saw them in concert early spring of 2002, right before the record was officially released. Jeff Tweedy made some little joke before he played a song, like “this is from the album that’s not out yet but everybody knows the words to” and he laughed about it. The tour was a huge success. It’s their best selling album to date. They’ve done the same thing with other records since. And guess what? We still buy the cds. Because if the music is good you want the real thing too.
When bands do the little PSAs about how wrong stealing from them is and how much it hurts, etc. – it turns a lot of people off. It’s not only condescending to fans but the bands themselves look like puppets.
And as for copyright infringement, I look at it this way : I sell my photography online, which makes it very easy for someone to save a photo to their computer and print it. They can also claim it is their own or distribute it. Sure, I would love for people to buy the photos from me – that’s the best outcome I can hope for. But if someone chooses to print my stuff out and hang it on their wall, I am actually honored that they appreciate what I do. If someone takes my work and credits themselves or tries to profit from it – that’s when I have a problem.
Very well said, cookie. A close friend of mine, who recently discovered that his latest release is available on a variety of torrent websites, was flattered at the outcome. But then again, he is not attempting to acquire “boats n hoes” through his musical endeavors. I suppose an “artist” with such aspirations would be upset with the lack of revenue.
This guy, to me, comes off as really mean spirited. Maybe he’s different in person, who knows?
How very white of you to assume that the “boats n hoes” group you are referring to cares any more than jimmy buffet about music piracy. Must be nice to be able to sit back in white boy land and pass judgment on lives and backgrounds you clearly know NOTHING about!
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“When bands do the little PSAs about how wrong stealing from them is and how much it hurts, etc. – it turns a lot of people off. It’s not only condescending to fans but the bands themselves look like puppets.”
Condescending? But it’s not condescending at all when “fans” steal the music, right? Puppets? You think it’s just the record labels who care whether or not people are actually buying the records? Unbelievable. It is literally astounding sometimes how stupid people can be. Clearly you don’t make living off of selling your photography online. A lot of musicians make their bread and butter selling records, not touring. This whole thing about “it should be flattering to the artist that people are stealing the music” is as naive and uninformed a comment as can possibly be made. It really pisses me off when people who know absolutely nothing about the music business say that. I have news for you, music isn’t “all about the fans.” It is such a selfish and ignorant notion that people think they are “entitled” to the music for free and that the band should be glad so many people want their music. Musicians work hard to make a living, just like everybody else. You wouldn’t walk into a store, steal a piece of candy, and offer the argument that the owner should be flattered that you like his wares so much. It is the exact same thing. You pay for your groceries, you pay for your clothes, you pay for your cable TV, and you pay for your music. The fact that anyone still has to explain this to people is beyond evaluation.
Did you even read what I wrote? Or did you just pick a sentence to get pissed off about? My whole point was that bands can actually use this to their benefit in order to increase record sales and I gave an example of such. Furthermore, do you understand the definition of condescending? A person who enjoys music and wants to hear it is not looking down on the artist. A major label propping up a band and giving them a script for some melodramatic commercial calling people thieves? Seems kind of condescending to me. I know a few small bands in the Atlanta area. They don’t make money by touring. They want to sell as many cds as possible. But they don’t mind online exposure either. In fact, they sometimes release free mp3s of live shows to the incredibly appreciative fans on their myspace lists.
Maybe this is where things get muddy for you though. When you speak of “bread and butter” and musicians working hard to make a living, you’re talking about the music industry I assume (since you say I know nothing about the music industry). You also say that many bands don’t make money by touring. And yet the bands I just mentioned, the small ones who don’t make the money by touring, don’t make their “bread and butter” by selling albums either. These people have regular day jobs for that. Which brings me back to the reason they don’t mind the mp3s online – they’re trying to make a name for themselves. They are artists who want to be heard. And it works pretty damn well.
And as for *This whole thing about “it should be flattering to the artist that people are stealing the music” is as naive and uninformed a comment as can possibly be made.* If you’ll actually read (can you do that?) what I had to say, you will realize that those words are not there. That naive and uninformed comment was made by you.
Two more things : #1 – I don’t buy my clothes. I make them. #2 – You come off as both pedantic and solecistic, but not quite funny enough to make my Elitist Asshole Top 10. Keep trying buddy, you’ll get there!
The “comment” is the sentiment expressed by people who advocate music piracy and try to excuse it. It’s implied all over this thread and in your post with, “but if someone chooses to print my stuff out and hang it on their wall, I am actually honored that they appreciate what I do.”
“These people have regular day jobs for that.”
Exactly Cookie. I’m not talking about some desk jockey who’s really hopin’ for the big time someday and plays out at the Brew ‘n Burger on Thursday nights. I’m talking about professional musicians, composers, people who depend on their album sales to pay rent. Somewhere along the way in this artistically inept climate of American Idol, Youtube videos, MySpace etc. where everyone and their mother thinks they’re suddenly an “artist” because they can “put their music out there,” people have lost sight entirely of the fact that professionals do this for a living, that not everyone is a hobbyist who likes to sing karaoke. And confusing some myspace saturday night band (who either works in accounting 40 hours a week or has mommy helping out with the bills) with a professional musician is the first mistake in the equation.
“A major label propping up a band and giving them a script for some melodramatic commercial calling people thieves?”
Wow. I mean, wow. Ask Metallica if they were “propped up” by their label to take a stand against piracy. Ask ANY professional musician. You really think the bands don’t care about it??? I don’t know what bullshit music business 101 class you took where they told you artists make nothing off of album sales, but you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Music seems to be one of those topics that everyone thinks they are an authority on, just because they “like music.” It really boggles my mind. I wouldn’t presume to argue a clearly wrong and bullshit point about medicine to a doctor. I don’t know why people seem to think they “know the biz” so well that they can somehow justify that stealing is right, but just ask a professional musician whether or not he/she advocates music piracy.
Stealing music is illegal, but more importantly, morally wrong. Especially if you actually LIKE the artist. You’re taking money out of their pockets, especially if it’s an independently produced record. If they offer their album for free, great. If not, pay for it.
As for your “Asshole List,” I’d love to be submit, but I’m already being considered for another high school freshman’s top ten list this week. Thanks though.
“Boats n hoes?” How about paying rent?
OK Why don’t people just admit that music piracy is stealing? If you are pirating music you are getting something for free that you wouldn’t otherwise. You are also depriving the artists of money. Please don’t go on about the evil record corporations who supposedly fleece the artists.
It just seems so simple to me. Just because it is easier to download an album than it is to steal a CD from Best Buy doesn’t make it not stealing.
Yes I sometimes pirate music. I have also stolen clothes and groceries and candy. I am therefore a thief.
let’s see:
I buy the music. right. Now usually when you BUY something, it is yours, right? That is what OWNERSHIP means. right.
I take the music I BOUGHT and put it on my computer, right? Then i go online with the music THAT I BOUGHT and i make the music THAT I BOUGHT available for others, right? I BOUGHT IT, so it is mine to do what i see fit to do with it, right?
so where is the stealing?
hahahahaha…this one is true
i don’t care either way about “stealing” music or whatever…
i mean i buy music and pass it around (because i love feeling like a music guru, obviously!)
but i think the “ownership” thing is a huge loop hole that i’m sure the man has though about…
i could be totally wrong but, when you buy an album you are buying it for yourself, not for others. it’s like the FBI warning at the beginning of movies, basically you are not, legally, supposed to publicly share them…
just a thought!
Whats wrong with downloading music, its there, its free, and these motherfuckers arleady got money. Im not taking the food off their plate. So what if they have to get a benz instead of a bentley. If its such a problem then stop making music cause your not gonna stop music piracy.
I have to agree with what Dick Chaunce is saying about people stealing and not understanding that it is wrong but i also have to agree with what Cookie is saying about how artists can use torrents and downloading to their advantage.
First something most people miss is that artists do depend on album sales for quite a lot. If an artist does not sell enough albums then they will likely be dropped from their label or simply have no tour support from them making it near impossible to tour and get their music out to the public. This will in turn directly effect the money you could make. While yes many bands are rich beyond the wildest dreams of your average American when Metalica for example filed their lawsuit it was not just them they filed it on behalf of a extremely long list of musicians that could not afford the lawyer fees to say this is not ok. anyone who actually looked into this would know that.
If a band can not sell records then they dont get to tour they dont get on the radio and they dont get to pay rent support their children buy their basic groceries unless they start working a day job which will only negatively impact their ability to produce quality music on a regular basis.
If you enjoy an artist then you should support them go to their shows buy their cds (directly from them at the show if possible but if not then from a store or on the internet like CD Baby Amazon or Itunes) buy their merch and tell your freinds about them or just play it in your car and let people know who they are if they ask. DO NOT TORRENT 100% of their work and tell your freinds to do the same because that will ultimately kill the band you love so much.
Second : Some bands have realized that they can not continue to ignore the power of torrents and the instant gratification it can bring to their fans realizing that the government and lawsuits will most likely never stop torrents they have chosen to embrace the technology and use it to their own ends. In a previous post someone used the example of what wilco did with their albums in recent years. Not everyone knows who they are but none the less a good example. I am going to use the example of Nine Inch Nails. Trent Feznor has revitalized his music career in recent years due in no small part to what he offers his fans. He provides torrents on his own website of music files from his albums for fan made remixing and then those remixes can be posted on the site for all to hear. He has produced a 100% free album which later went on to sell well in stores when he released a deluxe version of it.
It is possible to move forward and realize the potential of the technology but at the same time saying it is ok to steal just because it is there or to say well i bought it and i am simply putting it out there for anyone in the world to have for free is just putting on the blinders and placing a gun to the head of the bands people love. If you like them or are not sure about their music because you heard only the one song go ahead find more but then if you like it go out and buy the cd. If you dont then dont keep it and dont buy it. But do not download torrents of anything and everything you enjoy and then complain when the band gets dropped from the label and breaks up because they need to go work in a restaurant to pay their rent and provide for their loved ones.
Just because something is reproducible does not mean you have the right to copy and distribute it even if you bought it. Similarly, the people that download the music you bought are breaking the law as well. Its called intellectual property and it exists to protect the investments of the creators.
Well explain what i paid my money for. It is like i bought the music and if i played it loud for a block party, am i breaking the law by ‘distributing’ the loud music into others ears?
Intellectual property laws should be changed. In this day and age, the cat is out of the bag. Digitizing is here to stay, and blame it on the greedy corporations who STILL charge more for a crappy CD (which has maybe two good songs on it) than a movie DVD!
People are willing to pay for a product, but not when they know that the product is way overpriced.
so you are a candidate to go to jail next time you let your friends or family come over to watch a DVD movie, because, as you said, you are buying it for yourself and you are sharing the view with people other than yourself, right?
just a thought.
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You obviously don’t know how the music industry operates, do you? Because if you did, you would know that artists were not making any money from their work BEFORE there was an internet or limewire.
It is the labels that make the money from the labor of these artists. Musiciians are a dime a dozen and unless they can produce hits with at least 3 albums (usually the third album is when they get majority proceeds since they’ve now proved that they are a consistent money maker for the label), they are treated like toilet paper: used to hype up a particular song they’ve created (but the label receives most of the royalties due to ‘marketing’ the artist). Afterwards, that artist is usually gone with the wind as a one hit or two hit wonder. They would make more money going on the road singing their one or two hits in small to medium venues than they would collect from the music labels that marketed them.
Get over your little pipe dream of bands being ‘hurt’ by torrents or limewire or any other so-called ‘download’ software. If what you said were true, then we would be reading about RECORD LABELS going out of business due to so-called ‘stealing’.
When have you read or heard about a record label going under recently?
not.
check cd’s out at the library and burn them with your computer. who gives a shit if it’s illegal. I have a huge music collection and don’t feel inclined to explain how I got the music to anyone.
I think I’m really cool too because I have a huge music collection that I listen to on my iPod, while I’m wearing a sweater and a Motley Crue t-shirt and a scarf, watching a soccer game, eating hummus with sea salt, my dog at my side, while doing yoga in my New Balance shoes and drinking coffee and tea at the same time.
Oh yeah, I voted for Obama, buy organic, am vegetarian, snowboard, like to go outside, get movies from Netflix and I’m really sorry for all this, although I find it all a little ironic and offensive at the same time.
Damn, I have bangs too! Well. count me in as one proud ass white chick, haha
my kind of girl, except for eating hummus…
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I would be a lot more inclined to pay for a CD if they didn’t cost $20 to buy and $.0000001 to manufacture. Sure, I know a lot of the purchase price goes towards the recording and marketing costs, but c’mon… Remember when CD’s came out and they cost more to buy than cassette tapes? WTF? A cassette tape has moving parts! It’s a complicated device that is expensive to manufacture! A CD, on the other hand, is a slab of plastic that costs next to nothing to make. Pirating MP3’s is a direct backlash to an industry that tried to jack prices in the 90’s even as its own costs plummeted. No sympathy for the devil, or those who sign deals with him.
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fuck the artists 😉 if they actually care about getting their music heard, they’ll find a way of living with file sharing, if not, it’s their problem and they should have done something worthwhile with their lives instead of having fun making sounds.
the term stealing obviously does not apply here; as for “intellectual property”, read this http://moglen.law.columbia.edu/publications/dcm.html.
AGAINST THE LAW!! scary!! im fucking shitting my pants here.
As a musician who makes their living from performing (among other things, such as teaching piano) some of the responses here seem heartless and ignorant. I don’t mean to attack you personally, Dr. J, you’re just the most recent post. I would, however, like to share my side of the story. I am an independent artist with no immediate plans to form a relationship with a label in this chaotic time in the industry. My album cost around $17,000 (four years of my own savings) to make, and I don’t expect to make that back directly through album sales. Still, even with my realistic expectations that I will lose money on the album, I find it offensive when people burn it, or buy it only to rip it and re-sell it on Amazon and the like. I put four years and every cent I had into making some music I hoped people might want to buy, so when they take it without paying their tiny share of the costs, it sure feels like stealing to me.
(By the way, each album costs me about $6 just to manufacture, once you factor in licensing/publishing costs, and forget about studio time etc. This .00000001 figure you’ve come up with is not true for me or any of my colleagues.)
Why do you distribute your music on plastic discs? Oo Noone uses them anymore y’know..
You’re a thief and a douche bag. Stealing is stealing no matter how you rationalize it.
Giving away someone’s art instead of telling them to buy their own CD takes food away from their children’s mouths. Especially independent artists. If you cared anything about the artist instead of being selfish, you’d do the right thing.
I hope someone breaks into your house. If they get caught they can say, “He makes enough money.”
pussy, i play music and i give shirts and cds away for free.
fuck yeah. if you’re in a band to make money your band probably sucks anyway and no one’s going to want to purchase your cd.
lol white people
god damn, you’re obnoxious
Im in a medium sized indie band (over 200,000 records sold worldwide in total, toured the us over 15 times, europe, australia, 4 full length albums) and while downloading doesnt really hurt us, because most of the time people that download come out to a show and buy as shirt which give us much more money than if they would have bought an album in a store, if everyone that downloaded our album had bought it we would have gone gold or platinum. I support downloading, but it does affect how a band comes across to their label.
Such a heated discussion.
Well, it is stealing. And I steal. And it is bad.
Can’t really justify it in anyway.
It is what it is.
it is not stealing if the other person is GIVING you access to it, now is it?
this is the 21st century. Why do so many musicians, bands, singers, etc feel that they really NEED to go thru the labels? You know you sell your soul to get onto a label (they get 94% of profits on the FIRST album….why? because they said that they took the ‘risk’ on ‘giving you’ an opportunity…..an opportunity to do what? make them tons of money while you do all the work.)
you know already that you are making a hell of alot more money touring than you are getting from your record label….
I know it’s stealing, and I know stealing is wrong. I just don’t give a shit.
well fuckyouvery much for your comment.
beeeetch.
Come on, everyone does it!
I bet you also have an entry called “paying for music on itunes” or something. Christ this got old fast.
Because of lessening revenues to the labels due to piracy, there are naturally fewer albums being made, especially considering the risk inherent in developing new artists.
I work as a studio musician in Los Angeles and the work load for even the best players is down by over 50% over 10 years ago. In addition, since there are fewer sessions, studios are closing and the engineers, studio managers and even the guys that clean the studio are losing there job.
To guys like Tony who know they are stealing and don’t care, there is not much to say. To others I say my family and I only wish to have a life where we don’t have to worry about making a living and our future security.
Please help the people in our business by not stealing our work…
I don’t think there is as much “piracy” anymore as there is people just giving music out for free.
I get a lot of new music to DJ with off blogs, but it’s not illegal music. It’s homemade music that bedroom producers make and choose to give out, simply because they love their creations and do not want to get lost in the massive sea of stuff on iTunes or Beatport. They want exposure more than a quick buck.
Look at the Crookers and how famous they became because they gave their music out.
I don’t stand by piracy…mostly because now the tunes spread around the net are either terrible quality and/or they’re phony and are just hidden shells for viruses.
However, I still remember the labels saying how music would be so cheap by the year 2000…now we’re paying at times $2-$3 for one song when a whole CD would cost us $10-$15.
Lord knows when I finish some of my own productions, they’ll be up on free blogs and such. I’d rather have a million kids downloading and spreading my music than selling my tracks 2-3 times and never being heard by the masses.
The solution is easy. Make the music affordable. CDs cost pennies to the dollar to create, yet today’s music CDs cost more than the average movie DVD.
With a movie DVD at least i get a couple of hours of entertainment, while with today’s music CDs, you would be lucky to get 8 minutes of worthwhile music! And to add insult to injury, music CDs cost on average almost as much, if not more, to buy than the average movie DVD. Can you say OVERPRICED music CDs???
You don’t respect the public with reasonable prices, and the public will go around you to get what they want.
I know, right? I think the man who makes this website has a little too much built up anger against the White race…
Even if everyone does it, it’s still illegal. The authorities just can’t keep up everyone, so it becomes one of the it’s-illegal-but-who-gives-a-shit-cauz-everyone-does-it activities.
Pshaw… this is just satyrical social commentary at it’s finest. Whiteness isn’t something to be taken too seriously the author is just turning a fine poignant gaze into a cultural phenomenon that is “whiteness” taken for granted as normal and makes it look at itself in an incisive manner. Good stuff! White race by it’s very definition is exclusive but funny how spot on his commentary can be, so lighten up and just laugh. Some of my most favorite people are white folks.
“Pennies to the dollar”? I don’t think so.
The physical materials to create a CD are inexpensive, sure, but it’s definitely not cheap to record, mix, master, promote, and distribute an album, not to mention the dozens of people that all need to be paid throughout this process.
Making a CD is an investment, one that you expect to get back through – what else? – album sales.
I’m so white I buy all My music because of the album art.
so you are telling me that it costs MORE to make a CD than a movie DVD?? Justify how does a music CD costs more than a movie DVD?
You can’t.
The music industry are just damned too greedy and now they are paying the price…..along with all the people who are paid throughout the process.
No sympathy here.
buying your music for just album art does not make you so white….that makes you kind of stupid…
“Some of my most favorite people are white folks.”
Good call.
yes in most cases it does cost more to make a film than a record. its just stupid to think that it wouldnt. they are twice as long, they are moving picture sound and music, they have being crews to pay ect. a record is what 40mins of average? they can be made by one person in a bedroom with a laptop. however this doesnt have shit do with my a dvd is cheaper. (and they arnt most of the time)
movies get a box office release (they make millions here) most ppl still see movies cause we all how much better it is to see a film in a cinema. and they they get put out on dvd where they make even more money off them selling them from anywhere from 10-40 bucks AU. (im from Australia)
a record gets put out and then sold that’s it, you can go pay to listen to it 1st at some theater or what ever. you can buy it or download. everyone knows that ppl dont buy records anymore. i dont think greed comes into it with have the cd ppl buy. i am a musicain, i dont mean to sound like a twat saying that i just i know that from the records i put out that i know most ppl wont buy it. so i want to make the few ppl who do feel as tho its worth it, by adding extra stuff, art bonus tracks ect. deluxe edtions are a good exmaple.
piont is there are some things you cant download, these are what you buying. if ppl dont buy records a tangible side of music will die.
also touching on the lables stealing form the artist shit (sorry this is really long and im sure noone will read this) lables need to make money in order to put out records. bands know this they are on lables cos its hard to get ppl to hear ur music. id say its more than fair for a lable to take most of the profit for a record they put out. they can make thier living playing show as it was said before.
please dont feel you need to “own” me by picking holes in the grammar and spelling. i am well aware i cant write well, and really it just makes you look like a twat.
dont think i need to say this but this is just my opinion
I’m a White guy and I have a HUGE record collection of old vinyl, and 0 (ZERO) pirated songs. In fact, I have no ipod, and I never owned an ipod.
I guess that makes me an ELITE in this. I mean, like, high Mason/Rosicrcian, Knights Templar Order of music collecting. In fact, there are probably only a few who are higher than me. People who own stuff like: old music boxes, old music scores, Edison cylinders, stuff like that. But I am definitely in the upper triangle, over the gap that separates the lower half of the pyramid where other White guys download Itunes.
Pfft. You guys totally aren’t white enough. I write for a music PUBLICATION and get my music direct from the labels. And I have vinyl. Bam.
Kinda like doing five MPH over the speed limit, another thing white people like :p
ha. shiiiit i do 9 over. unless its a school zone! 🙂
That is funny.
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humm………does anyone still remember what’s the original post was about? If i can collect all the 2 cents from list list, i will be rich!!
At least you are honest!
um I pay all my mp3 from amazon/emusic/itunes ect
and I am white
Well, honestly, i don’t want to spend $250 on an iPod that holds 30,000 songs and then pay $30,000 for all that music. That’s a little insane.
I like Zune’s little package though. Like $12 a month for unlimited music? Pre nice.
Piracy has its downsides – you download computer viruses on accident. 😦
Im sure that African American people do this also. Am i correct in making that statement?
I WANT A MILLION DOLLARS!!! Can one million RICH WHITE PEOPLE send me one dollar apiece, puh-lease????
I don’t want money from any Asians, or Blacks or Hispanics. You guys NEED your money. I only want one dollar apiece from RICH WHITE PEOPLE, who only WASTE their money on things like iPods only to listen to their free mp3s.
Waste it on me instead. Thanks so much! (First person who comments “You ARE a waste.” is a rotten egg. You thought it. I know you did. Stop lying. See? I knew it.)
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Man, my favorite thing about this site is that it makes me realize how freaking white I am… However, I’d probably be a snobby white girl because I pay for all my music. I’m not cool enough to have a massive vinyl collection, but I *can* be very white and take this opportunity to complain about how I just can’t afford it. Anyway, I had a recent conversation with my boyfriend, where he was the first kind of white person who defends their “right” to take something they didn’t pay for. It was really funny because I was the other kind of white person who pointed out that the artists knowingly SIGNED to the record label, and without the advertising and money the label gets from sales, the artist would still be playing for free in their home town. And stealing from a rich man who works hard to earn his money is the same as stealing from a poor man who works hard. So I was the holier-than-thou sort of white person.
Anyway, thought I’d share. Dang I’m so white.
“vinyl still sounds better.” lol
How about the fact that there are thousands and thousands of absolutely shitty bands and the only way to filter through them legally would be to spend a fortune on cd’s. I pay for music that I love, but that usually amounts to about 1 or 2 albums per year.
Or how about the other fact that the only place to buy music in the town I live in is at wal-mart or target, and these places do not carry ANY of the bands I like. I have to drive for 3 hours(in one direction) to get to a store that actually carries “good” music.
So in conclusion, fuck off with your stupid shit.
The problem you are facing is inherent with your own words, “I work as a studio musician…” This signals to me that you are not loyal to one band and not interested in creating art, you are just a “professional musician” manufacturing as much music as possible. I wouldn’t even bother stealing the shit you produce.
And by the way, you are dead wrong about fewer albums being made. The reality is with the technology of the internet musical ARTISTS have the ability to produce their own ART without the need of a professional studio. Which means there are naturally an insane amount of albums being made every year.
Join a band and make some art, then people will appreciate it buy purchasing it. Dick.
You were ripped off paying that much to produce an album. Sorry to say but the fact that you thought $17,000 to produce(and why do you need licensing and publishing for an album?) was justifiable makes you a troglodyte. In 1969 that price would have been realistic, today the same can be done for less than $500. SHOP AROUND! Lol.
There are plenty of sites where you can buy music online, and there are plenty of ways to listen to music legally without buying it.
I’m white and I don’t like music piracy.
You, sir, are very white. Read the article again — no, actually read it, don’t skim — and then read what you just wrote. Way to prove his point.
Also, iTunes and Walmart and eighty other websites sell pretty much every song ever made (unless it’s by The Beatles) and you don’t have to buy the entire album.
So in conclusion, you are a ridiculously white idiot who doesn’t want to admit that he pirates music because he’s cheap. Now, please excuse me while I go pirate music because I’m cheaper than (and almost as white as) you.
If you say that you like a particular song and I e-mail it to you, is that piracy?
if its a band i respect, i’ll buy the music.
end of story.
It makes my day to come here and read the comments of upset white people. It makes me think of the “offended” post. 😛
I like buying music for the packaging.
I guess that makes me even whiter, but fuck it if I care.
I spent probably 500 dollars on music last year, but I’m way more apt on “trying out” (IE: pirating) albums than I am on actually buying them.
I’m with you, I’m not white or a chink, yet I am for having free music heh
Maybe 5-8 years ago I can see the impetus for downloading music – all the standard arguments are more or less true – only one good track on an entire album, outrageously overpriced discs, etc. etc. But now, with the availability of cheap, DRM-free single tracks and the ability to stream most tracks from youtube before buying, there isn’t a good reason for not buying the tracks you’ll really listen to and supporting artists you like so they can continue making music.
Absolutely right!
I still buy music if it’s really good. I pay for albums on Amazon all the time, often used CDs or digital downloads.
BUT! I will NOT buy anything I haven’t heard anymore. What a waste.
this one is stupid,who wouldnt like free music dummy
i hate buying cds
I’m not white
but normally even the artists I love most have albums full of stupid crap and the only good stuff has been released to radio and what not
You’re failing to take into account other aspects of technology that lessen the demand for studio musicians. Autotune has made it easier to do without pro back-up vocalists. MIDI and software synths have made the practice of hiring a professional keyboard player essentially obsolete unless you need someone to play live. Programs like Battery tend to do the same for drummers and percussionists as well.
Compounding that is the fact that basically every major recording these days is done using either Pro Tools or Logic, which are essentially really complicated sequencers that can also record audio. If you play a part correctly that gets repeated later in the song, it’s incredibly easy to just copy and paste it (no need for breaking out razor blades and cutting up tape), resulting in shorter sessions. The editing has gotten so sophisticated that even if you make minor mistakes, they can often be fixed.
Last I checked, most session musicians don’t get any kind of residuals, so record sales only indirectly affect you. For what you say to be true, there would have to be a huge drop off in the number of albums actually released in a year, which is definitely not true. There’s less demand for session musicians because there’s simply less demand for live instrumentation.
The fact is, the music market has become fragmented. The days of record companies being able to essentially dictate what’s popular are over. The future belongs to artists and musicians who are willing to take on production, etc themselves instead of waiting for “hit makers” to “discover” them and hire a full staff of musicians and songwriters.
buy one song so they can continue to make music? well any musician who just does it for the money, isnt a real musician.
What ever happened to taping off the radio? Me & my bro used to audio record music with cassettes on our boombox in our room. Ah yea, the early ’90s sound bite time capsule. Hey, we burned music and shared it with our friends before the Napster site came along. +
ya i agree. Its more like “stuff people under 40 like”
Little boys say I’m as cool as Miles Davis…
put alil love in your heart
😉
Little boys say I’m as cool as Miles Davis…I wish l could blow those little boys like Miles Davis blows his horn
put big cock in my mouth.
oh, did i say that me and my brother had passionate he-man sex while the cassettes played on the boombox? Rick James ‘Give It To Me Baby’ was our favorite song!
i can’t eat my love for music. my love for music doesn’t make my car start.
That’s a completely ignorant comment. How can you know that albums are “full of stupid crap” if you’ve never listened to it?
Long live hard copies of music.
hahahah, everything you have to say in this one applies to me. Including the vinyl to mp3 and vinyl does sound better……
This is the most wonderful website in the history of the universe! It is so funny, yet so true. It all applies to me. I have spent thousands of hours hunting down old LP’s and transfering the music from my vinyl to my ipod when this whole ipod thing came about.
How insightful. Just to show how dedicated you are to your argument, you should go into work tomorrow and tell your boss that you don’t want to get paid for your work anymore. After all, you can’t be very good at it if you’re just doing it for the money. I’m sure that you can pick up another job somewhere else in order to support your current one.
Ha ha ha ha. I have a friend who “only buys vinyl” and he made me a mix CD recently. Brilliant.
I bought the Dark Side of The Moon vinyl for $1 at Goodwill.
White people love Dave Matthews. I’ve never met a white person who didn’t like Dave Matthews.
You don’t know very many white people then or you live somewhere gay like San Francisco
I fucking hate Dave Mathews
.. and I’m white. o_o
I hate Dave Matthews
I remember when I was talking with my sister-in-law about a specific band and she jumped up and said “I’m a huge fan of Jamiroquai! I’ve downloaded ALL their albums!”
No one likes Dave Matthews, not even Dave Matthews.
thats so white of you to tell us that
Dave Matthews can choke on a bag of dicks
omg it was crazy. this one time i met a white person who didnt like dave matthews…
This is SO TRUE. Just SO TRUE. But I don’t like Dave Matthews…
Its true, I do suck balls!!! and I should choke on a bag of dicks!!
My music sucks, and thats reality people!
Oh, and white people that do like me….. Are tone def.
I love piracy. I pirate classic rock. The artists are dead so fuck the industry.
you should elaborate into private trackers like waffles.fm and what.cd 😉 hah
JT Woodruff does not approve of music pirating.
And I would just feel guilty about it… hence my diminutive collection.
How did this post go from lampooning the jerkoffs who have probably never listened to an entire album front to back in their illegally downloaded collection, to claiming that vinyl collectors despise the availability of music on the internet?
Stick with one topic you assholes. Thanks to vinyl –> mp3 technology, I don’t have to lug around turntables, records, and amps to share the vinyl gems I’ve acquired over the years with other people. Granted there is a loss of audio quality in the transfer process, the internet will never be able to track down every vinyl recording. I wish it would, the more people listening the better! Keep Vinyl Alive!
I have a modest but respectable vinyl collection. You can pirate it, but it ain’t like having the real thing in your hands, fools.
“Nah bro” is violating bro code. But onto my meager point, I still don’t give a shit. 😀
Bro, vinyl sounds like shit. Who wants to listen to that scratch?
Play a clean, unscratched record and try that comment again.
A true standard in comedy blogging.
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Burn the heathen!
Admittedly, a lot of later vinyl sounds like crap due to changes in production tastes and methods, but there’s something particular about listening to a properly mastered analogue record (through a properly tuned analogue amplifier) and knowing that the only limit to the “resolution” of the record is practically at the molecular level.
Compare even a raw wav file recorded at 16bit to one recorded at 24 or 32bit and there is a noticeable difference; but 16 is the best you will ever get from CDs.
This is such bullshit. I just released an album. I sold the CD for $10 anywhere in the world with free shipping and broke even. CDs do not cost pennies to the dollar to create. To get a professionally manufactured CD to your door as an independent artist with a small run (say 200 CDs) costs $3.50 a piece + $1 for packaging + $3 shipping in US or $5 shipping out of US, not to mention the ancilliary costs. I made zero dollars – it can’t get any cheaper without burning a CD-R for you and putting a shitty label, but then you people will complain about that and say “fuck him, I can just download it and burn it myself.” A large label can afford to purchase tens of thousands of prepackaged CDs, and their cost per unit is still around $2.
apparently i am the wrong type of white person, lol, refer ^, but recommending bands through pirated music does help bands, most bands would prefer to get known quick and it doesnt happen at $5 to $10 a cd, those are for the white cd collectors lol, and vinylistics lol, i prefer spending money to see the bands at concerts and telling friends to go, and yes i have a ridiculous 90GB+ music collection, but most recorded at 320kps to 192kps, =)
Haha, This site perfectly describes white people
You have to PAY for music? That’s most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
I will never pay for music as long as the internet exists – what’s funny is i originally started doing it cuz it’s free and easy and WTF, y not, and never stopped! occasionaly i would try to justify it to myself whenever i came across a whitey who tried to get all offended that i pirate, so i say well record co’s rip off the artist… i’ll support them in other ways, that usually brings the argument to a stale mate as long as tehy think i’ll be supportive – which i may if i am compelled, usually not though. Secondly, pirating music helps my white ass stay current, its like the blog on art and being all up to date and cultured and stuff- but i digress, if i can save thousands of dollars by staying current for free, um, HELLO! i need a staples cuz “that was easy” and if i don’t like it i delete it, no wasting money on crappy records. i feel bad for those who don’t pirate, y’arrr
here’s one… if i rip tunes and cause artists to die, new ones pop up… and i rip them, there will always be somebody to rip, so i’m giving new aspiring artists a chance by leveling the marketplace while i hate my parents and sip expensive coffee on my year off… 🙂
i only buy music from relatively “unknown” artists (haha, and by unknown i mean you have to buy their cd from their website because theyre not on itunes) – i feel bad “pirating” their music, i think they need the $, and you can’t find it on freakin limewire anyway. if i wanted a britney spears song (not that i like her songs ahem) i would find it somewhere like limewire.
I must admit, I was sad when the original Napster went down. I loved downloading music for free, but vinyl does have better sound quality. So I guess it is a good thing I kept my record player.
Hip- Hop producers DJ Premier & Pete Rock both have HUMONGOUS record collections & both are African American, just sayin!
Unless you’re downloading from Limewire, you very very rarely ever get viruses. Just don’t click on random stuff and you should be fine.
But all that is true… other than the vinyl sounding better. I am a musician, as are many of my friends. A few of them are in bands on labels here in seattle. If you know how the record industry works, you know that what you described is true. The problem is that indie labels often do need money to stay afloat, so by buying the album your helping the label, not really the band (which is good many times). But there is no reason to buy a radiohead album from capitol records.
another issue is that you arent talking about white people, your talking about 18-30 year old hipsters. this site might as well be the next hipster handbook. young people are usually piss poor and cant afford a large record collection.
i dont understand if this website is supposed to be mocking these white people for what they think, or what… but I have to say that I was a little irritated with this one.
their producers dumb shit course there going to have fat record collections.
har har
i am white, i have enormous collection of mp3s and all illegally downloaded… to approve my act of stealing music, i say stuff like mentioned above..
yeah, and i also believe in the “vinyl still sounds better” thing…
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How can you tell if someone listens to music on vinyl? They’ll tell you.
I pirate music because it’s easy and free and I don’t care. Does that make me more or less white?
WHOA! you mean you can download illegal music?! Holy Shit where i have been! I’m just a white guy. Why wouldn’t we do it, didn’t we invent the shit? hahahahaha Harvard drop outs.
the irony is that every single song on my iPod is perfectly legal, but all of my non-white friends have pirated music on theirs. the excuse is ‘i can’t find my music legally’ but i listen to the same music as them, and i find it legally…
my few white friends (yeah, few, there aren’t very many white people at my school) actually fall entirely under this stereotype and often tell me why i should download all of my music illegally.
so it’s not just white people, people. or maybe my friends are just whitewashed.
I am white, and all of my music is either songs downloaded legally from iTunes or songs from CDs I happen to have. All of my Asian friends download their music illegally, however, and one of them actually said “it’s an Asian thing.”
I usually download to listen to it a few times, if I keep playing and liking it and the artist isn’t famous and rich I usually buy the cd. Most music I play a couple of times and then just once a year. I don’t really feel obliged to buy the it.
I do buy more cds since I started downloading :-S
Oh and it helps to buy the cds from the artists website instead of amazone, better service, usually better price and a happier artist.
I actually heard a news story that illegal downloading is decreasing nowadays. Interesting.
I love this website, the information is great and I have bookmarked it in my favorites. This is a well organized and informative website. Great Job!
I’m white, a pirate, and a software developer. I don’t believe in intellectual property rights, but I also don’t believe in any form of currency. Steal my stuff.
I love you – why don’t you believe in IP rights or currency? THey’re not dragons or unicorns, they actually exist.
I am white and don’t care that it’s stealing. White people across the world are very different, and none are like white Americans.
hahaha! this website is hilarious. i’m white and it’s funny seeing things here that i like or my friends like. and whoever wrote this stuff nailed most of the reasons as well. music piracy for example. i do it and kind of feel bad, but man do i love it when people ask me about music! i didn’t even realize i did this until i read this thing. i kind of feel like a jackass now…
I love the ones that listen to an album and then say “wow, this is so good, I’m actually going to pay for it…” No you won’t.
I don’t think you’re the ‘right’ kind of white person.
I_Love_You: Awesome! I have pirated music, but have never thought of myself as a “pirate.” One more way for this white person to call themselves a badass. Thanks!
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i love this place. it’s hilarious.
i pirate music because i’m a broke teenager. 😀
i lurves thepiratebay.org
i download cause im cheap
@Frank LMAO so true
I very strange because I Pirate music love the EFF, but my dad almost worked for RIAA when he was in graduate school and my cousin works for Emusic.
white people definitely love the EFF (that should be on this website) I guess that would fall under nfp
but this website is more about liberal white hypocrites than ”white” people
I guess I would follow the category of liberal white hypocrite lolz
I don’t think much to illegal downloaders – you made some valid points nice read!
…everyone does it not just white people >>
Im white and have NEVER pirated one song, ever.
Porn on the other hand,…
White people steal music, it’s true.
Black people also steal music, but they also steal the speakers and the TV.
…from white people.
Bwahahaha, thats awful, and awfully funny.
David you are clearly the wrong kind of white person…. gross
I guess I’d fall in to the ‘elite’ category, though my large collection of vinyl is mostly due to being a DJ.
I did find it rather amusing recently when one of my friends was having a rant about someone stealing stuff from his car. Talking about the dishonesty in the world and how could someone blatantly steal of someone else etc.
Without a word I gestured at his shelves of DVDs that were 90% pirated movies. His delayed and awkward response was – that’s different.
the music industry would always be a thriving industry specially these days where we listen to a lot of music *,-
Go fuck yourself into a dark person.
I guess I fall into the “wrong kind of white person” group. Whoops.
Although I generally think “Its not like they are losing any money because its not like I would but this if I couldn’t download it.”
LOL I saw this blog on http://www.DanielDickey.com (The MTV VJ) and must admit it’s just as funny!!!
Spammer. It’s on virtually every post, also.
Haha I’m so not white since I have tons of CDs. Pirating Is for losers who think stealing is cool but they have nothing to show ( no shelf full of CDs or Lps)
musicians are already poor as shit and whether i pay for it or not that wont change i would be better off throwing 99 cents to them at a concert
You don’t believe in any form of currency? What do they pay you in, M&Ms?
Vinyl sounds better because they don’t “brickwall” the dynamic range to make everything seem equally loud on your crappy earbuds like they do on cds.
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I download music, movies, games, and programs because fuck capitalism – they aren’t getting a fucking cent from me.
“I download music, movies, games, and programs because fuck capitalism – they aren’t getting a fucking cent from me.”
What do you do to earn a paycheck (if anything), and how do I get you to do it for free — because fuck capitalism, right?
I haven’t a dime in my pockets, if I’m an avid lover of music…how am I supposed to afford it? Illegal music is the rave for people who don’t want to pay for their downloaded music. Its called copyright infringement..lol just kidding.
I respect the hard work of artists and the labels who sell so that artists get a decent living, whenever I have money I do try to buy all my songs from iTunes even if it means emptying out my bank account. Its just funny because I thought “white people” were all for supporting artists by buying their albums…lol.
i know im not the first whitey to met a black guy that pirates music more than i do and that same person copys that shit and sells it so(maybe its just me i dont know) i think that it is the world that just loves the fact that they can go onto utorrents and get the entire Run DMC discology and then sell that shit to the only person you know that doesnt know how to use that wierd thing people call the internet
White people with Apple products don’t like music piracy, they are pleased to know they spend .99 on every song on iTunes.
That would be a $1.29 now hon. I could actually afford 99 cents…
Wow, this accurately depicted every single word I would say if someone asked me about music piracy. It sort of makes me uncomfortable at how predictable I am as a white stereotype.
If we should ever ignore our conscience and steal music, we will always have the guilty reminder on our hard drives: the virus. The consequence for sin. I should know.
L2Computer…
i have like 1 TB and a half of music, and sero viruses.
This is not a hard thing to accomplish.
These threads are usually bang on or very near the truth – but this one couldn’t be more inaccurate.
Surely your liberal left middle class metro types are the one segment of people below 50 who don’t indulge in music piracy.
Because they’re so concerned about “the damage it’s doing to the emerging generation of musical creativity” or some such crap.
These people are the people who actually bother with stuff like ‘Spotify’ – I don’t know who else keeps it going.
Yes unusually wide of the mark this one…
I think that while your hierarchy was accurate in the early stages of music piracy, things are shifting. You are seen as something akin to wasteful if you have invested your money into an actual physical collection of recorded music. Now, among people on both sides of this argument, the vinyl fans are seen as the elite. Among the pirates, it’s the negative type of elite, those who see themselves as better than everyone else. Among those with tape and CD collections, those with collections almost entirely in vinyl are seen as the elite in the Wayne’s World sense of “We’re not worthy!” But it really has come to the point where there are two separate schools of music collections. Those who pirate music act as if they are doing something socially aware, as if they’ve stumbled upon some moral secret, while those who collect recorded music may also feel morally superior for doing something “legal,” for not pretending about who is benefiting from their behavior, or any other number of excuses for not pirating their favorite songs.
lol i thought asians are pro in pirating!!
Sure, white people should just go into the store and steal the music CD like Negoes do.
Personally, I have never gotten any downloads or garbage off the internet; the new music out is worthless, these bands are terrible. I have a huge vinyl collection of real jazz, real country, true rock music; I have about everything I need to hear, not this plastic pre packaged stuff you call music. As a collector, I have hundreds of hours of live Stones, Pink Floyd, Original Fleetwood Mac, Hendrix, MC5, Sonics Rendezvous Band, Velvet Underground, Quicksilver, Airplane, Dead and other great bands on vinyl, CD and cassette. I have all their music thats legit, I love the live shows, These cats dont care about bootlegs, hell Mick and Keith collect them as well!!! Yea, keep downloading Garth Brooks, Beiber, Gaga, Winehouse, Greenday, Tupac, Biggie, Keith Urban and all those other fakes on your MP3s and portable toys….and know you are listening to frauds who are not really musicians…….I stick to the vinyl and just enjoy the real deal. Remember the Revelution, and to quote the MC5, Kick out the Jams Motherfuckers!!!
Bro,
you must be stupid. I have thousands, yes thousands of vinyl pieces….tney have been care for since I got the first 1 47 years ago. They are clean, in the jackets, are played on high quality equipment and are in mint condition. My stereo equipment is worth at least $15,000, my collection close to $50,000. analog sound is the best friend, not the fake digital world you’re living in.
If you are listening to Beiber, or Winehouse, or Gaga or Eminem pal, you are a lost soul. My stereo, vinyl collection, collectables and autographs alone are way beyond your comprehension or worth. Long live Rock….and great vinyl.
Wait, is this the comments section or the real life examples section?
“Negoes”
Maybe you should go back to school, or your trailer
lol they are the ones who make the cracks and the torrents lmao!!,this guy doesnt know what hes talking about.
1.Once again everyone pirates
2.asians make the cracks and torrents
3.pirating is file sharing,file sharing is not stealing,learn to differentiate stealing from file sharing because they are not one in the same
4.you find that white people pirating music for their itunes collection is “immoral” but stealing an ipod from a more fortunate white person deems fair
anywho,overall you were right on the money however how does illegal downloading make the individual A self acclaimed “music expert”?? your feeble attempt of reading peoples motives/actions/thought process is beyond hilarious.
Elite^
Piracy is doing damage.
And Spotify is not helping.
– Vern
Exactly. Thank you for calling out someone’s hypocrisy.
I’m white, I’m a DJ, and I acquire my music legally.
– Vern
I have one good white friend and he’s scared to death about downloading anything. I’m gonna send him this post.
@Jaba….Ouch. You better put some ice on that nerve they hit,captain fakefacts…or a hot compress…I can never remember which one works..
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