It is a known fact that white people make up 95% of non-profit organizations. They can’t get enough of them.
They like working there for a number of reasons, the most important of which is that it gives them a sense of self importance. This is important so that they can tell their friends and parents that they are “helping” society, and not just working to make money.
But the sweet side of non profits is that you are paid a competitive salary for your field. So you can be working at a non-profit and still make six figures, and you don’t have accountability or pressure. Again, like most things with white people – you can’t lose!
See, there you go again! I appreciate the sarcasm, but it’s so counterproductive – we should be working against the idea that non-profits are a “white” thing, not solidifying it through wit and humor. Many non-profits do “help” society, from advocating prisoners’ rights to supplementing public education. Non-profits are valuable community resources, but if they’re always only staffed by white people, then only white people will have control over their resources. Which means not only are we stuck with an bunch of do-gooder white folk with Savior complexes (never a good thing), we’re barring nonwhitefolk from really good jobs with the potential to have real positive social impact.
Can you support your assertion that non-profits pay competitive salaries? In my experience, that’s just not true. Some people might earn 6 figures, but these people are usually C*Os. As for pressure and accountability, talk to a non-profit employee at grant time. But we do like that feeling that we’re “helping.” Silly us.
the C*O’s do make good dough, but the others don’t make a ton unless they are real good at “fundraising”. Never try to point out how their non-profit is actually doing more harm than good. They will not like that…my friend works at a non-profit/lawyers group(ties in with your lawyers article)…they beg for money from rich lawyers and then feel superior as they dole it out to folks…have them write essays and crap…Of course they get to keep some of the money to buy waterfront homes/ ipods and nice kitchen appliances.
yeah i wish nonprofits in washington dc paid people 6 figures…the nice thing about nonprofits tho is that it allows people with Arts degrees to get a job they wouldn’t otherwise be qualified for, without having to go to more school.
I finna go to church!
yeah, none of the (white) people i know who’ve worked for non-profits made anything like a competitive salary, especially considering all the work they’d do.
Yeah, you’ve hit the class angle but are going at it from the wrong way. These things pay poorly so only rich white people (which is what I assume you mean with your blog, since it does not describe the average redneck) can do them.
Dude – non-profits have bad pay for the level of skill and education. And, as a white guy, I should know. My girlfriend and my mom work for non-profits.
As a white nonprofit worker, I have one question:
What nonprofit pays a 6 figure salary????
I’m not going to quit my job and go find one, I just want to know. Where are these nonprofits?
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Six figures and no accountability or pressure!?! I’ve spent my life picking the wrong non-profits . . .
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I wish white people liked some of the stuff you write about. Wish more black people did, too. We’d be a lot better off . . . as it is, most people in this country don’t actually give a fuck about non-profits, or “awareness,” etc. etc.
I agree with Liz. The majority of white people in this country don’t really like non-profits. They like Wal-mart. Wal-mart turns a decent profit. so like, u r dumb. get smart.
ah, no one I know who works for a nonprofit makes over $50k.
Naaah…you’re wrong about the pay and pressure at non-profits. A handful pay well and a handful of people who work at nonprofits have family money to tide them over bad pay, but for the most part you’re competing with people with Ivy League master’s degrees for a salary that’s half what a plumber makes. This is actually why most people who work for nonprofits marry someone who works in the private sector. Someone’s gotta pay for that Moroccan vacation and the pot.
@ 17 Master’s degrees in sociology hahaha
Seriously though I am white and this is spot on. Alot of white people work at non-profs because they are self important. These are the same people who try to make you go outdoors.
Isn’t living in an NPO more relevant that working at one?
This entry is weak. The non-profit you’re describing is rare. The mega non-profits like United Way or Red Cross will have a few lucrative positions at each site. A better angle would attack the types that are coupled with mates in higher paying jobs.
The jab at lax accountability in the non-profit field is also off base. Donors of all sorts watch that shit like owls.
You’d be amazed how fucking uptight people get over a $50 or $100 dollar donation. Sure, I threw down 50$ at the bar last weekend, got drunk and purchased two rounds of $4 shots for my table, but now that I’m sober and I’m dangling this $50 in front of you, I value it a whole lot more. I wanna know where every fucking last cent is going. What’s that you say, your administrative costs are 24%, well by god, that’s more than I would expect, even though I don’t know shit about what I’m talking about. What’s that? Some of that 24% includes direct service costs that are labeled “administrative” in accordance with your bylaws? Well, I’m not sure what that means, but I already pay taxes to help lazy scumbags like we live in a Communist state. I’ll take my hard earned money somewhere else, to a harder-working organization. I’m giving it to my mega church instead, where the pastor makes $12 million a year. That way, at least, I know it’s going to a good cause and not being pocketed by some crooked, slick-haired bastard.
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“But the sweet side of non profits is that you are paid a competitive salary for your field”
HAHAHA. Wow. Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. Competitive? Try half what you would make doing less work at a private sector job.
Hilarious.
6 figures? Maybe if you have 3 ivy league degrees. Maybe.
working at a nonprofit keeps the existential crisis down at LEAST enough to keep me away from church. I dig it. The possibility of a sense of purpose is so freakin’ tempting. It’s better than money, man. It’s … it’s…I mean, it’s almost like CRACK.
LMAO!!! Omg, this is funny. I work at a nonprofit in the Bronx, NY.. The Executive Director and Asst Exec are both WHITE and are always going into the neighborhood talking to the staff about the of an education and how everyone needs to work hard etc and how we should instill those values into our clients and the community (who are all referred to us b/c they are low income families) .. Then after work the ED gets into his BMW (which he keeps locked up in a garage since he wont park it in from of the non profit) and drives to New Jersey or his weekend home Upstate and the AED takes a cab to her brownstone on Central Park West. But Im sure they both get a good nights sleep because theyre “making a difference”
correction: ^^about the *value* of an education^^
so i’m a first-year attorney at a nonprofit making $42k/year…my friends at firms start at around $160k plus bonuses in the tens of thousands. and they get substantial raises every year. sure, there are lots of people in my field who could be considered “white do-gooders,” but most people in non-profits are doing amazing work for very little pay. these jobs have so many benefits- sane hours, getting to help people and give back to the community- but money is NOT one of them, unless you are at the highest levels of management.
not to say that this blog isn’t freaking AWESOME and scary in its portrayal of my life as apparently the whitest person ever…but i thought this point was important to clarify. i’m off to eat some bagels and read my sunday times now.
I’d like to meet someone in a non-profit who is not the CEO who makes above 50K. My salary at a non-profit is no where near competitive to my for-profit counterparts. I think you need a new #12.
Actually, it’s just that whites like contributing to society in positive way. After all, although blacks only make up 13.5% of the US population, they contribute in other ways, like being 33% of all rapists and 52% of all murderers! Now that is Culture.
On a pretty funny blog this is a really weak entry. It’s too much the exception if true at all.
Man, I have done/liked almost all these things! Except for Asian girls, as I fall in to the white woman catagory.
You are sooooo nieve! The reason we love non-profits is for the tax avoidance, money laundering aspect of them. We are looking for every way to keep our hard earned money out of your hands.
i work for a non profit through americorps and i’m making a hefty 200 dollars a month. that’s definitely 6 figures, no?
Almost every charity/community service group at my college was run by a young white woman or gay man. I think this entry should be retitled:
“Stuff non-whites and heterosexal males don’t like”: Volunteering their time!
I wish you were right about this one.
Yeah, I make 6 figures at my non-profit job. That”s why I’m 44 and my very first brand new car is a YARIS. And don’t ask me about my pension and my golden parachute…I get embarrassed when I am forced to talk about all the benefits of working for a non profit agency. But, hey, at least it’s rewarding: I get to work for an agency who couldn’t give two shits about the kids and the families we serve, and I get to watch as all of my clients can’t afford heat, can’t afford health insurance, and try to find jobs they can’t live on. I’d tell them to work for my agency, but it would set them back financially. I was good with your site, but as far as this issue goes, you are CLUELESS. I’m all set now. Thanks.
The funniest thing about these blog posts are the offended white people who will spend their entire lunch hour posting defensive comments and trying to defend/reason their positions. It fucking satire, go get yourself an expensive sandwich (see future post).
I’m “working” right now at a non-profit, and I make $11,000 a year in San Francisco (try it sometime, you can talk to all your white friends about “living simply”). Maybe next year I can get one of those competitive non-profit salaries while I save the world. I love this blog.
I’m white and I LOVE this site. It’s hilarious and allows me to laugh at myself and my white friends. However, I have to say that this post is ill-researched.
I work at a non-profit medical clinic with a Master’s degree. Everyone else I know in the private sector with my degree makes AT LEAST double what I do. And that goes for the receptionists, medical records clerks, medical assistants, directors AND the doctors at my clinic. Also, the staff at our clinic is VERY diverse — I am only one of a few white women here and proud to be a part of this organization.
While I agree that I work here to assauge my “white guilt” and to give back to a society that has given me so much privilege, I also work here because I love my city, love my patients and wouldn’t want to work anywhere else for any other amount of money.
I’ll note that this also ties into another thing white people like: graduate degrees. Seriously, try to get a job a non-profit. They all require a masters or a PhD.
Hmmm… I worked for a non-profit for over 5 years and volunteer at another. During my career, I have worked with survivors of domestic violence, rape, child abuse, etc. I wish I could have made anywhere near a 6 figure salary, because then at least I could have paid off my college loans and not have had to work evenings to be able to afford paying rent and groceries. Most importantly, I would have been able to afford to stay working in the non-profit sector, doing work I enjoyed.
Aside from the fictional set-up of this post, I am just wondering: what is wrong with feeling good about making the world a better place? Is the opposite better: people who feel good about damaging the world? Why does that have to be a “white people” thing? At least a third of my co-workers were black, African, or latinos. They felt good about what they did too. What is wrong with watching out for your own economic self-interest if you marry someone who has a private-sector job? If you work in a non-profit, making less than school teachers make, then eventually you will have two options: leave the field in order to be able to afford to have a family or have a partner that makes more money than you. Even if the fictional 6 figure salary were mostly true, why is it bad for people to actually make money while making the world a better place? Are our values so messed up that we prefer our non-profit workers poor? Aren’t we always talking about how teachers should make more money? Should people like Paris Hilton make more money than a case manager who works with children in foster care or lawyers who go to court on behalf of prisoners who have been abused?
I am not white, but I am disappointed with the posting. It sets people up to fail either way. Accoridng to this post, their only choices are to be “do-gooders” with selfish motives or “evil-doers” also with selfish motives. The posting also denies the amazing amount of contribution that people of all races give to social justice and human rights issues and cheapens what many non-profits do. The non-profit system is far from perfect, but this posting parodies the wrong issues. Please examine your own incorrect assumptions instead.
Hahahaha – again, see Portland, OR – guilty post-collegiate white people mecca. It’s like 3:1 people to non-profit ratio in this city. That and people are always applying for grants. Same reason behind it.
Maybe you should just rewrite the article to incorporate the suggestion made by SFG? They were completely correct when they said:
Yeah, you’ve hit the class angle but are going at it from the wrong way. These things pay poorly so only rich white people (which is what I assume you mean with your blog, since it does not describe the average redneck) can do them.
I know a large number of aid workers, the plurality of whom are upper class, over-educated white people with huge guilt complexes who can afford to work at lower income helpy jobs because they either come from money or have the degrees/skillsets to jump ship to the private sector should the need arise.
It’s a joke. There are no facts with this statement, just pure laughs. Sheesh
Does no one understand that this web-site is just to give everyone a good laugh? It’s probably not entirely true, but it’s funny as hell. If the joke offends you, don’t read it. Pretty simple.
Speaking of which:
I am absolutely thrilled to share with you an amazing experience I am training for:. The AIDS/LifeCycle, a 545-mile bike ride from San Francisco to Los Angeles. It will take me 7 days, June 1st to June 7th, to complete the ride, almost 85 miles a day, so this is a huge personal challenge for me. Why am I undertaking such an enormous challenge? The first reason is a personal one. To get back into shape. If getting fit was a personal goal of mine, I would have done it already, but I haven’t. So now I am making it a goal and training for and completing a 545-mile bike ride is a great way for me to ultimately be more fit and strong.
The second reason is just as important to me and that is to raise money to benefit people living with HIV/AIDS. The average annual cost of care for a person living with HIV in the United States exceeds $25,000. AIDS is not over. I love that an event like this can help me in my personal goal and at the same time, help support other people. I have never had the urge to do a marathon or a triathlon before but the fact that a major part of this is about raising money to help the HIV/AIDS services of the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Center is a huge motivating factor for me.
Another motivation is the experience. I cannot wait to ride my bike down gorgeous Highway 1. I cannot wait to meet other bikers from around the country and to belong to a community of other people who share in my passion to fight against HIV/AIDS. It’s incredible that a disease will bring us together but during this remarkable, challenging week, we will celebrate our health.
So with all of this, I am asking you to be a part of my team of people who care about this disease. I need to raise a minimum of $2,500 and with your financial help, I am confident that I can reach that goal. As I am climbing a difficult hill or struggling to complete an 85-mile day, I will think about your support, how you wanted me to succeed and how you gave money to help fight AIDS. I will be doing the ride, sweating through each mile and you can be with me in spirit every mile of the way.
I’d like to urge you to give any amount that is right for you but would you consider $25, $50, $100, $136 (25 cents a mile), $272 (50 cents a mile) or a dollar a mile at $545?
I cannot thank you enough for your emotional and financial support, and for being on my team. This event is going to take hours and hours of my life but I know it is worth it. I hope you think it is worth it as well.
PLEASE DONATE!!! I’m having a hell of a time raising money here.
Oh god, what I wouldn’t give to be making six figures working at my nonprofit…
White people — especially white women — are disproportionately represented in non-profit work.
But dude, it’s not about the money. The ‘non-profit discount’ is around 25-50% – so if you’d make $100,000 as a manager at a for-profit, you can expect to clock, say, $60,000 as an executive director at a NP organization, with poor job security to boot.
While most EDs are women, this is not true for really big non-profits, where most execs are men. this suggests that the reason women do so well in non-profit work is that no one else wants these jobs. Once an organization gets sufficiently prestigious, sorry ladies, the old boys club takes over again.
Source for my statistics: http://meyerfoundation.org/newsroom/meyer_publications/ready_to_lead
Most of the people that work at my non-profit are Hispanic (except for highest management). It partially has to do with the need for bilingual employees because so much of the population we serve is Spanish-speaking only. I also think it’s kind of the same mentality that is seen in, say, migrant workers: no one else will do those jobs for such little pay.
#1 mohammad, just shut up. seriously.
That’s funny. More than half of the people who work at my non-profit are African-American.
yeah, i don’t know about this one. point me to the non-profit offering six figures for a social worker- i’m there.
No, no, it’s good to use wit and humor to comment on the things we are hostile about. This is my favorite website I’ve seen in a while, because it is so true and written in such a sneaky way, how can one honestly be offended?
Offended? Of course not.
This website is just the equivalent of every “ever notice how white people are all like….” joke by every black/non-white comedian in history.
The reason it stings for some of us that have put our heart and souls into NFPs is because this site acts as thought it is cutting out the BS and telling (yuppie/liberal) white people what their lives really amount to.
Of course it is all done through jokes, but every joke has to be based in truth and this blog tries to insert a made up distortion – like “competitive salary for your field” as a truth and the basis for the joke.
So if people were to take that distortion as truth, of course it would sting for a lot of people to see their hard work and selflessness degraded by some blogger with a platform and the ability to shape a lot of people’s views.
Thankfully just about anyone who has even a basic knowledge of employment, job markets, real life, etc. would see this post is an absurdity and pay it no mind.
Great point #39
Some people are just bitter when they see other people that are happy and have some sense of moral obligation.
A lot of people just don’t see how that anyone could possibly be that way, and it makes them mad when they see it, so they try and bring that person down.
Non profits pay competitive salaries? That’s a hoot!
1) F.U. Jordan! #27. I’m a black individual who not only works in a non-profit but understands the actual term of culture.
2) I work at a very small non-profit and my former boss was paid well over 50k and barely even knew how to use Microsoft Word. So, I can kind of see where he’s coming from but a lot of my friends in the non-profit sector are paid crap. I guess it just depends where you work.
3) F.U. Jordan! #27.
Based on all of these posts, I think “disputing sarcastic comments they don’t like while linking friends to ones they do” could make the list. I’m a teacher and I find the jokes at our expense hillarious (even if they are untrue). Lighten up people, you are proving the writers point.
Umm… Everything about that is right except for the money thing. I’m white i work for a non-profit and no ones pay is competitive. I make %50 less than others in my field with the same experience.
You forgot to mention how white people working at the nonprofits like to talk about how they could make so much more money in the private sector and how they aren’t paid what they are worth in the labor market.
Such a joke. Entry level people at nonprofits make upwards of $30k for a 35 hour work week, even when they have BAs in basketweaving or psychic studies, and are of no use at all in the real world.
I’m a CPA who audits non-profits, and there are some very high paid employees who don’t deserve half of what they’re paid. If the public knew how much money is wasted at non-profits, they’d stop giving. They operate like government units. Most of the non-profits are funded by government grants, and trust me, the attitude is spend, spend, spend, so they can get more money next year. I don’t mean to slam all non-profits, but I have seem so much fraud it makes me sick!!!
I work at a non-profit and I don’t make shit.
Yeah, what everyone else said…people at non-profits are self-righteous as hell, but there’s tons of pressure and not a lot of money. Actually, all of my friends who’ve left the non-profit sector are paid more, and work less, now.
i have a question – who is white? what qualifies someone as white?
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This post is all wrong. I work in a non-profit, I barely get paid, I am white but all of my co-workers are black, and as for no accountability and pressure, I inform teens of their HIV status… so go fuck yourself “clander”. You’re what white people like. In fact, you may be the most “self-important” white person I know, regardless of your skin color.
This list seems more like its all stuff that other races specifically don’t like…thats kinda garbage
http://www.garbarrassing.com
for funny stuff that everyone likes…
Because minorities dont get the fact that the employees still get money while working for them. A lot more than they make washing dishes, or working at McD’s
Why is this Mohammed guy such a wet blanket?
I used to work for a non-profit that had the mission of keeping teenagers off of drugs and alcohol. The organization had 14 employees and I know for a fact that 10 of the 14 made 50k a year or less, I don’t know what the other 4 people made, but when the company did its annual accounting that they sent to donors, they listed 2.2million as their expense for employee benefits and salary.
So if you figure that the 10 people on the bottom are making 50k that is 500k total among them, if they buy the best health insurance (which they did) that costs them at most an additional 200k, this leaves the top 4 people at the company splitting 1.5 million as their salary. I don’t know what the breakdown was, but let me tell you the president was a pompous ass who was never in the office, and did nothing but wine and dine donors, free dinners were another benefit.
Non-profits are no different then other businesses: there’s pressure to meet deadlines and make money, and like most companies not everyone can make 6 figures, the point is if you want to you can certainly work towards it.
As a white, liberal, tea drinking studied abroad social worker, I laugh a lot at your blogs because they hit so close to home. I think you had potential with this entry and the idea that there is sometimes that “savior complex” that exists for whites in nonprofits…but it just didn’t work on this one. Competitive salaries??? What nonprofits have you been visiting? The average salary for a social worker with a bachelors degree, for example, is 25,000 a year.
Based on most people’s responses, it seems salaries in the Non-Profit world are a little better in Canada. Sorry guys :[
What’s standard salary for non-profit work?
People take this stuff WAY to serious! It is fucking hilarious!
#62 jeremy t
i have a question – who is white? what qualifies someone as white?
Excellent question. I myself am light brown and can be very dark brown in the summer. I have been told by others that I am Mexican, (are they white?) I have been told I am black and just trying to pass, does that make me white? How about East Indian, are they white. Some folks have told me I must be East Indian and\or from Fiji. Does that make me white? I have a college degree in PoliSci, drive an old BMW and love SciFi and Breakfast places. Does that make me white? Just what makes a white person white?
yes–you’re really on to something here. i mean the whole blog. what about white people and grammar? maybe something about punction, hm? or how about writing in all lower case letters when they’re fully aware of standard capitalization practices!?
entry #70 sarah:
i can definitely tell you’re white. you just haaave to argue. ahhh!
You’ve got to be f’ing kidding me! What non-profit do you know that pays a competitive salary? I have my masters in non-profit management and work for United Way and I still don’t make enough money. Do your research punk.
This thread describes mostly a non-White “jewish” trait: the non-profit game/swindle/tax dodge, etc.
As the saying goes, get two jews together and they’ll create three organizations.
My favs are the Israel “charities” that pump fungible money into the warfare and apartheid state. Other “non-profits” are used to advance other ideology and social activism (i.e. Emily’s List), not true altruism which is White.
All this Heeb under-the-radar racist maneuvering is “tax-deductible” thanks to bigots and sneaks like the rotting Tom Lantos.
#74 “Just what makes a white person white?”
Listen to a white person: Today the term means a person of European background. That’s the simplest answer.
I’m sure all the non-whites and jewish people will start posting something else, or some history about Ben Franklin saying the Germans weren’t White, North Africans are White on the US Census, etc, blah blah blah…..but my answer is the best and most simple one. We know who our people are.
I have worked for small and large nonprofit organizations. The largest one for whom I worked was The Pew Charitable Trusts. Trust me — the place was NOT all-white! We had people from all ethnic backgrounds and it was a wonderful place to exchange ideas and then put them into practice, if feasible.
Pew is more like a corporation because it’s so big — but it’s a misrepresentation to say that all or most nonprofits are all or mostly white.
It just ain’t so!
You are aware, I assume, that colleges, universities, schools, and hospitals are also considered “non-profit” institutions, right? It’s not just organizations and foundations.
They are.
Take a look around and try to sell me that “only White” employee stuff. It won’t fly.
A link to this website was sent to me recently because my friends know this is exactly the sort of thing that keeps me entertained for hours. I am now looking forward to each new post with the anticipation of a five year old little girl on her birthday looking for her new pony.
I am white, and educated, and I am able to laugh at the fact that I can relate to most of these posts. (the “white people like gay friends” is a classic) However, I have to say this is probably the most unfounded of any of the entries. After I finished college two years ago I started out at a non-profit that was considered huge for the area (just over 80 employees and about 30 regular volunteers). The agency struggled constantly to balance community needs and maintaining their budget. I met some of the most selfless people when I worked there and I have amazing respect for who they are, what they do, and why they do it. I, unfortunately, did not have family money or a well off spouse to rely on and had to sell out. I left a job I loved and great people to work with because after my power was turned off I realized I couldn’t afford to keep working there.
And I was the salaried marketing coordinator.
Are there some non-profit positions that pay well, sure, but is the average non-profit worker getting paid well for what they are doing… well, let’s just say you would have better chances of convincing my dog it’s not ok to lick his private area in front of company.
There are over 1.2 million nonprofit organizations in the US, employing around eleven million people. If you want to bag on someone who is willing to work 50 hours a week for $22,000 a year, that you’re call, but I’m going to throw the bullshit flag. I’ve been there, and it wasn’t b/c of white guilt either. I am proud to say I live pretty guilt free. Well, I do feel kind of bad for making my dog stop licking his balls when I know he enjoys it so much…
Damn! Somebody point me toward a nonprofit that pays a competitive, six-figure wage with no accountability and no pressure.
Because in 25 years of working in nonprofits, I ain’t never found me that combination. In fact, I’m not sure I’ve ever found one of those things.
I do have that self-satisfied sense of satisfaction though! You should try it.
Yeah, where are those non-profits that pay six figures? I’m white, make less than $30k full time, and have crappy health insurance. There’s plenty of diversity at my office as well.
I think you meant to say “stockbroker” instead of “non-profit.”
This blog is hilariously ironic in its ignorance.
Having worked in both non-profits and for evil corporations this rings pretty true. While salaries are not competitive, if you never leave and are capable enough to both walk and chew gum at the same time you will eventually end up at the C level and be earning $100,000 for what is in reality not THAT hard a job.
This liberal arts degreed white boy worked at a non-profit for many years (in part because I wasn’t qualified for a real job) and was promoted and given titles WAY above my actual qualifications – I even had my own office. Don’t forget that non-profits are often very hierarchal because their core reason for being is rooted in the idea of hierarchy, “we better off will help those worse off” and this is reflected in the organizational structure of the non-profit.
The other good thing about being a white boy at a non profit is when I got tired of earning $30,000 and had developed all the socially conscious credibility needed I went on to get an Ivy League MBA and upped my salary by over $70,000. The white folks who stayed behind in the non-profit fell into a few categories: those who were essentially unemployable in any role with performance accountability, those guilty about their trust funds (makes it a lot easier to live on your low salary) and don’t forget the angry middle class white women who are still acting out their rebellion against their suburban upbringing right up to the point where they meet a guy like me (six figure salary, but credible background as someone “who cares”) and get married and become a suburban mom drinking fair trade coffee, shopping at IKEA and talking about the evils of Haliburton while ferrying their kids to soccer practice and French lessons in their hybrid SUV.
competitive salary? i work for a non-profit organization and for the amount of various skills that i use on a daily basis, the salary is certainly not competitive.
Lucas running a little vulgar and bitter on the inside at position number 20 nonetheless has done his homework and offers insights. Recommended reading.
actually i couldn’t agree more. I suggest ya’ll read Paul Farmer, and see what he has to say about NGO’s a Not-For-Profits. all though i believe he’s a white man lol
As much as I love this blog, this is just silly – white people don’t work for non-profits because of the salaries (which are EXTRAORDINARILY LOW), they work there because it makes them look good to be able to say “I work for a non-profit!”
Foundations, on the other hand, there’s a way to make some cash…
I work at a non-profit so I can leave my nose ring on and wear outdoor performance clothes and sneakers everyday. It’s a fabulous lifestyle.
The really, REALLLY funny thing about this blog is all the white liberals who can’t tell that they’re the butt of the joke !
It’s almost as funny as all the other white liberals who don’t even realize that it IS a joke, and post comments arguing with the premesese as if it were a serious political blog.
This is SATIRE folks. Don’t you know what that is ? And it’s you – self-satisfied, self-rightous Northeastern liberal snobs that are being satirized.
I can almost hear you now – “oh, yes, I knew it was a joke. yes, indeed. Hah ha”.
wait,
what’s wrong with what #1 said?
Goodness, that’s exactly the description of my job and where I work! (true….) It’s great to be white!
After having worked in non-profits for 10 years in non-profit education, I have to say – white + woman = non-profit worker. In the past few years I have seen the jobs demand more experience and education from white institutions and the pay go down to the point where basic rent and food is not affordable, let alone get savings or a car. I was looking for work in NYC where I had been living for 10 years. Non-profit jobs pay even worse than before, and office after office was staffed by white women who by their dress and ring/s seemed married to other white people who earn a great deal of money. I know from working with white people that the majority of these women are married to bread winning men (there are exceptions to this rule, I know) and this is why they move into education. They spend day after day worrying about black kids and teaching them to be white (inside voice, behavioral contracts, BIP, EIP, etc.). Not to reinforce these (all too true) racist postings, but it’s stuff they like…. and, that I’m white too does mean it is… or was… stuff I like.
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The only thing worse than white people working in a non-profit is white people working at a company that provides services exclusively for non-profits (e.g.: software, marketing, data services, etc.). I just left a company like that (“Hey, we’re saving the world and earn enough to shop at Whole Paycheck!”) and am happy to be a corporate whore once again.
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The responses to the blog are the icing on the cake. I laugh at the blog posts, but roll on the floor laughing at the responses. Keep the posts coming!!
I pooped my pants
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marry me mohammed.
i have a friend who works for a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, located in SAN FRANCISCO, that exists to help LAWYERS who are MINORITIES
It is not your money. The government prints it; ergo, it is the government’s money. At the end of each year, the government decides how much of its money it will let you keep.
Non-profits pay very well. Their annual salary isn’t real competative, but they only work part time (like teachers) so you have to figure out their salary extrapolating it as if these people were working like the rest of us. For instance, non-profit case manager = $40,000 per year, but they get 3 months of vacation and rarely work a full 40 hours in a week …. so you have to figure their salary equivalent if they were a fully employed individual would be about $70,000.
Both my brothers-in-law work for non-profits, and my sisters are both teachers, and all I have to say is that I sure wish I could take a vacation every other week.
How racist.
The reality is non-profit salaries/benefits widely vary, from city to city, state to nation and among “sectors,” aka health, education, environmental, etc., just like in business. It’s also really hard to get people to stay with non-profit work, cause if you are anything like me and work your ass off like you did when you were in the corporate world, you get burned out faster in the NPO world ’cause of all the bulls*** without being paid to deal with it.
I work for a non-profit and I regularly work 50 hours a week or more if we have events. I only make $30K and I have a M.S.
Our Exec.Director, however, brings in $100K plus fully paid benefits and about 6 weeks (paid!) off per year. He hasn’t even been here a year and he’s been on four week-long vacations plus numerous “I need to take Friday off to go golfing” trips.
So Ziggie, you are right for some people but off for others.
The truth, at least in my corner of the world? Non-profits are equally about doing good as they are about politics. I don’t know a single non-profit board who can’t find a way to screw up the organization’s work by bringing all this “one hand washes the other” crap into it.
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It’s a joke!
These people obviously have never heard of Rainbow/PUSH coalition or the NAACP.
That’s the truth. BBA in computer information systems, 30k.
Uh, that would account for the other 5%….
Uh Oh, watch it, Clander- sounds like you are stepping on someone’s Religion!
lol
And what do you like? Talk about the ridiculous stuff that white people like! I can think of a few, but I’ll keep them to myself. Some things are better left unsaid, ya feel me? Oh, maybe you don’t.
annonymous you are funny…..waiting for your blog – really…..
anyway gotta go now, have to purchase my expensive sandwich, dry my hubby’s rugby shirt, go the health food store, pray that universal health care is passed, go to the anti -gun rally, squeeze in time for my non- profit work because i have a saviour complex, purchase my lancome products (as close to european as one can get) and make sure I don’t offend any other ethnic group during my day and “often feel guilty” thru out the day regarding how the other ethnic groups are treated – and all you other non- ethic people remember that be the plans – don’t aks me whys
hahaha
I have to agree with this. I’ve worked in the for-profit, non-profit and government sectors, and the non-profits pay the least.
I also have no idea where the “no accountability or pressure” part comes in. Non-profits jobs have easily as much pressure and responsibility.
I’m glad I work for a nonprofit, since “you can be working at a non-profit and still make six figures, and you don’t have accountability or pressure.”
haHA – go find this job! I won’t hold my breath.
I still love this blog, and it is true that white people love nonprofits. It’s great cocktail party conversation.
knit your anus up!!
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There is a need for formats such as this in such a tense and turbulent world. I appreciate and see as essential stuffwhitepeoplelike. It would be inappropriate and deserve repute if The Times were to run a piece such as Non-Profits, yet, for stuffwhitepeoplelike to make fun of the disproportionate majority of white non-profit employees is par. I have seen an abundance of “crunchy for crunchy-sake” whities, with their New Balance, Target, Whole Foods Immanual Kantian routines that buy into the Non-Profit brand the same as Target. To take at jab at these crunchies, and in doing so support the diversification of the non-profit field, is precisely what you were falsely criticizing about stuffwhitepeoplelike. Good day, my latte awaits.
You are sooo silly! Yeah, we need to laugh at ourselves because if we don’t… we’ll go crazy! I’m an African American and I know all about stereo-typing. Keep up the dry sense of humor!
Here’s the “Holy Grail” of non-profit organizations (and non-government organizations) for White People to support:
http://www.survival-international.org
Interestingh
raising money for a good cause is so gay
Don’t I wish that nonprofits paid “a competitive salary for my field!” I am an attorney at a nonprofit and I make approximately 1/4 – 1/3 of what my colleagues in the private sector make.
I do enjoy the self-satisfaction of working for a nonprofit, though, so you have it half right.
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Thank you Muhammed, your comment is brilliant and yeah stereotyping can be funny but not about this subject so much because the more races than can volunteer the better, me saying this being mixed with hispanic/asian myself.I bet that most whities do contribute to dog contributions sadly because MOST think theyre more important than people(poor cute children will have to die because of it) thank you white people.Just please think about that…alot..
T am white.
I don’t care for non-profiit organizations….
Those non profits are out there… just have to do your research… depends on the job you do (obviously) and the budget of the agency… I’m not there now, but I figure in about 3 – 5 years I can be making 6 figures… Also, no accountability?!?!?!? Yeah, right… generally as non-profits we submit grant applications, responses to RFRs, etc. those all coming with reporting requirements… everyone wants to know what their money is spent on so it ends up being more work than working at a for-profit company… but we’re helping people… and if it matters, I’m black…
Non-profits pay about as much as public school teachers, enough to get by but nothing near competitive compared to other fields that require a Masters degree. Added to that, most NPOs are located in major cities, where the cost of living is much higher. Given what they pay, the amount of office politics, understaffing, and limited career cap of non-profits is laughable. What’s the point in spending your days working to improve the world if you can only afford to buy clothes made in sweat shops, and you can’t afford locally grown organic food?
could u not think of any more than those ppl? u said black ppl and chinese ppl like 5 times… make fun of some otherppl, jamaicans? australians?portuguese? lol
I agree with the above. I administer the donation budget for a community bank. It never ceases to amaze me how much money is spent on lavish parties with crummy food in order to entice the big fish to donate. I mean, seriously? You want $5000 for two tables of 8 and a banner and the opportunity to dance to a crappy band and eat dry chicken? And then you want me to donate more money? I am all for giving money to worthy causes, and it kills me when I have to turn down non-profits because they are not in the budget. But these ridiculous galas have to end. Where is that $5000 actually going?
I hate Bill Braskey, but i respect him!
Oh, really Dashonte? So, only homosexuals can “raise money for a good cause?” Or..did you mean the verb, ‘to raise’ was gay? Last time I checked, parts of speech do not have sexual preferences, and a person of any sexual orientation can raise money for a good cause.
On a lighter note, wow–awesome satire in all of these articles!
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Self importance, schmelf importance. At profit making businesses, it was; You go and make us some money. At a non profit, it’s; It’s all about the members.
I make 20K and the National Director makes 35K. You can’t make money in non-profits. In fact, most people leave non-profit jobs after only a few years. There was a good article in the NY times on the problem. Google it.
So true… I worked for the American Cancer Society and the head of the non-profit organization makes well into 6 figures – evidence enough is the loft they own in lower manhattan.
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GEEZZZ, can it get anymore pathetic, hold my hand, enabling than that?
yeah, but you have to go to college first, or end up like my Aunt, doing social work all her life in downtown Philly for peanuts and spending most of her life in an apartment block that was enventually overrun with drug dealers and crackheads. I think her drive toward social work came from her lifetime involvment with the church.
I wish I made a competitve salary at a non-profit! I’ve worked for two and while the one I make more at my current job, I’m still at the low end of the spectrum income wise!
Not that I’m arguing your point,, because my (white) brother is a full-time fundraiser for Juvenile Diabetes, meaning, he’s pretty much a full-time golfer (another great white activity).
I have done that at a church….
but after the first week I only went to go see this hispanic girl…
now I go out wiht her… lol
I love the church
I agree…. Unless you are a president or CEO, you make more money being a temp than being a NGO professional with a master’s or higher degree.
Hate to say it but you are so off on the not-for-profit when you are talking about salary. Demographics correct…. Salary no….
I worked at two different non-profits and neither was a six-figure job. I am a degreed university graduate and earned less than $30,000 per year at each. Six figures? Where the he__ are you getting your info? I’d probably make more money standing on the street corner begging. I know some people who take home $200-300 a day doing just that.
Non-profits are also always at the mercy of their board of directors, donors, and the economy. One non-profit I worked for went under because the board of directors decided it didn’t feel like serving our local community any longer. My co-workers ended up jobless because of a bunch of stuffed suits who arbitrarily decided their future.
Tell me again, how cushy non-profit jobs are?
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Working for non-profits…is not a glamorous job.
We are always asking for money….to keep services and programs ongoing. (Lots of pressure there)
The pay is nothing to brag about.
True non-profit employees have to love what they are doing, because it certainly is not about the pay.
I’m an attorney at a non-profit organization and was recently told that I must add to my list of endless duties “cleaning toilets.”
My ex-boyfriend was a militant environmentalist/NPO-employed alcoholic. I am positive Philip Seymour Hoffman’s character in ‘Next Stop Wonderland’ ( a very white movie ) is based on my ex. *sigh* Thank god those days are over.
As an employee of a non-profit, I think this post was dead on, until “you don’t have accountability or pressure.” Tell that to my boss or her boss, or my wife. They will be surprised to hear that. Clearly the writer’s experience with non-profits is limited.
I’m very offended by this one. The description says it only appeals to white people but I worked for an animal shelter for 2 years and the vast majority of my co-workers where very non-white. However, in defense of this list, they wanted to make me a manager until they learned I was dating one of my non-white co-workers.
PS: they paid me beans too.
See “being offended.”
this whole website is why racism is still around. this just follows all the stereo types that we are trying to get rid of. non for profit organizations are for people (OF ALL RACES) to help people in need and to make this country and other a better place. this site offends me and i hope you dont take this as some crazy person on a rampage but as something to think about before you post anymore of this garbage that further pollutes the minds of your readers!
That sounds more like an issue of appropriate manager-subordinate relationships than an issue of race.
First of all, this site kicks major butt. Can I say ‘butt?’ Secondly, this site describes yuppies. It focuses mostly upon Democrat yuppies, the worst kind of all. This site reminds me just how yuppy I’m becoming. Thanks for showing me how obnoxious I’ve really become.
I just broke up with a girl that worked at a non-profit while she had an unpaid intership at wherever. She whined a lot if you couldn’t guess.
*I fit into many of these groups. No scarfs though.
competitive salary my ass, I work for United Way. And I work for them because I was offered a job, I certainly don’t only work for them so I can feel in some way superior. Although the non-profit does work wonders with asian girls (see #11) haha
GOOD AFTERNOON MY NAME IS PAULINE, THAT STATEMENT WAS NOT CALL FOR. I STARTED A NON PROFIT MY SELF WITH MY OWN MONEY. I WENT TO AFRICA[ REGISTERD THERE] ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE SAME IN THE U.S. I AM 100% BLACK I DID IT OUT OF LOVE NOT COLOR, IF LOVE HAVE COLOR ‘THEN’. SOMETIMES I WONDER WHAT MAKE PEOPLE SAY CERTAIN THINGS. THANK YOU PAULINE.
I run a decent sized 501(c)3…and I can honestly say that I don’t want any of the above mentioned type people working for me.
As everything else in this magnificent site, the author refers to a rarefied, upper-level strata which, in many instances, comes to define the “field” as a whole. It’s not fair, but it’s life. And in the case of non-profits, I must say he’s dead on.
Go to any major global philanthropic foundation (in the U.S.) or international NGO (in Europe) and check the salaries (operative word here: major). As for pressure, I wouldn’t say it’s a breeze, but let’s say it’d be really challenging for Oliver Stone to film a non-profit version of “Wall Street.” Someone with venomous fangs would say really smart white people get a graduate degree and apply to a foreign post in {insert same place where the person spent his/her study abroad year} with a major non-profit (that means higher salaries and generous benefits). Play your cards right and Whitedom can be achieved within ten years with an executive position in headquarters (95% chance to be located in New York, London, or Geneva with a salary to match living costs). Until retirement, overachievers will switch organizations once or twice, in a different country obviosuly. Retirement is something like three-month holidays in-between overpaid consultancies. Now that’s a life plan!
I’ll have to disagree with this post. I barely paid the bills with my former non-profit salary. The ED’s salary was slightly over $50k a year, and that’s crap pay for an executive level employee in CA.
You are actually correct…the IRS will be breathing down your neck if not (unless they haven’t gotten around to auditing that non-profit yet)
Your words say that you don’t take this post to implicate all non-profits, but your tone does not. Implication in place of candor. Standard white person shit.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!
You just single-handedly justified the existence of this site!
u know it’s true….
everything i do…
i do it for profit!
u wish u were white.how sad. hater
We in the biz refer it as the “poverty industry.” See we are the middlemen. We do the begging so poor people don’t have to, and we take a small percentage of the action.
Its a win/win situation, with paid holidays (and sick days, and insurance, and retirement, and vacation, and nepotism, and ….)
Something else white people like — pointing out that things that make them nervous are not literally or precisely true.
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The pay comment is wrong. I own a non profit and cant even afford to pay my people – all volunteers. Plus if you don’t pay or pay less than market if gives you more money to help people and also know your employees are in it for the right reason,’
George
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I am white and I work for a nonprofit – Grassroots.org!
I shop at Goodwill – does this count for anything??? Please, I have to know!!!!!
I must assuage my guilt from slavery.
That is all.
Reading the user comments here and in other sections gives me a great idea for a new post: White people don’t understand satire when it’s pointed right at them.
(is this the reason why White person Meccas like Amherst or Berkeley are so devoid of humor?)
This site really shows how “white” people need to get over themselves.
“White” people are always so worried about offending someone that humor, that’s not bland, becomes a dagerous thing. They couldn’t dare say anything that anyone anywhere might find offensive in some way or they would just die. Not because the thought of offending someone upsets them, but they may APPEAR to be insensitive to other peoples thoughts and feelings. Another reason “white” are afraid of humor is that many of them are in fear that they might just let that racist joke they secretly love just pop right out of their mouths.
Change that to American whites, I’m British-white and love this site.
This sounds very racist and racist people are dumb and closed minded. Is there a blog for stuff African Americans, Mexicans, Chinese, or Japanese people like?
White People also love thrift stores, though this may not be official.
While I enjoy this site immensely I have to disagree with this post. I have been working in non-profit for a number of years and the salaries have never, ever been competitive. The comment about accountability and pressure is completely untrue as well. The hoops that funders will make you jump through for tiny amounts of money means that you are very much accountable for everything you do, to a ridiculous degree.
Um… it’s satire based on stereotypes. If some accuracy is sacrificed for the sake of comedy, you shouldn’t be offended.
Oops, silly me:
Stuff White People Like #101: Being Offended.
Now back to your regularly scheduled whatever it is that’s going on here…
I need any free stuff i can get
Maybe if your gay and in california.
The rich need to feel better some how.
I couldn’t agree more with your comment. I also work for a non-profit and sometimes, I have to get permission from 3 different bosses just to make a phone-call. Accountability is established through micro-management. I’d rather be employed by a business.
You’re=you are. Driving me insane.
That was the number! I’ve made reference to SWPL #101 four times on stupid comments that people have left after taking serious offense at an article.
A good (white) friend from college actually took this path after “discovering” the local community around our university. We both received “alternative” degrees but I took mine in Human Resources and she went into non profit. I never hear the end of it for my choice! I had my fair share of the white college kids trying to do good in my community while I grew up. I don’t feel guilty or like a “sell out” for my choice. My family struggled enough and my job pays well, so in my case my HR helps MY community.
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Simpler, actually. White people like organizations, period.
I sometimes wish I was working for a non-profit, but instead I work for corporate robber-barons.
I work for a non-profit and I feel super important everyday of my life. Working 60 hours a week, I make comparable hourly wage to a Wal-Mart Bagger. Everytime I walk into my high rise building where I have a penthouse, I tell the door man, “Thank you for helping me with the door. I just got done saving the world today!”
nope…. loose a score for me
This site is tremendous.
However, I believe the name is a little misleading. Lets just get it over with and call this the ” Things that over-educated upper middle class white liberal elitist urban hipsters like”.
I cant get enough of this. I just might miss the super bowl reading these posts!
My well educated cousin worked for several non profits over the years. She also drove a car without heat for three or four winters.
Is there a difference between Non profit and Not for profit?
I wonder?
“Things that over-educated upper middle class white liberal elitist urban hipsters like”
I think that nails it!
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New York… Directors of Programs, CEO, COO, and Presidents can make 6 figures.
About the nonprofit pay, there are some huge institutions that drive up those average salaries, like colleges, hospitals, and the major nonprofits (United Ways and Red Crosses of the NPO world). If people looked at the nonprofit pay at a glance, they wouldn’t get a clear picture of the realities of working at a small or medium sized NPO.
If you doubt me there are some watchdog groups and articles put out occasionally on the Chronicle for Philanthropy that track executive pay for nonprofits. Some of the CEO’s of local branches of the Humane Society and other national orgs make absurd salaries, well beyond what they should. I think the top earner in the nonprofit world was over 5 million – he was the head of the research arm at one of the NYC hospitals.
Well damn…I work at a NPO.
I work as the ED of a NPO and make less than $25k per year.
I work at an NPO in a management position and I make less than 30K a year. That does not include health insurance.
I work at an NPO, make less than 30K a year (with health insurance taken out of my paycheck), my 3 co-workers are Latina, Latina and Jewish and we have to be super careful in our accountability to funders and grantors.
So, whoever wrote the blurb at the beginning apparently made a lot of assumptions without checking out the facts.
Do you really want to live in a world where people don’t help each other?
jesus christ. can all of you people realize that this is supposed to be satirical and not serious?!?!?!
have a sense of humor and have fun with yourself!!!
“Everybody sucks! You’re all pathetic, jack-off posers! Come on, laugh at yourself with me! YOU SUCK, YOU SUCK, YOU SUCK!!!”
I work at an NPO and at my current post none of us make a ton of money, but that was very different at my last job. It is a local NPO with 80 full time staff and 100 or so part time and the ED makes about $150K….I made $28K…..this guy is right that wrote the post and those of you in NPOs who think he’s wrong don’t know enough about NPOs. As for the ED making 25K, what is your other job while your NPO is getting started. My guess is htat you’re in the 2nd or 3rd year….but do you plan to keep making 25K?
George Carlin docet…
Lol at people taking this article literally…
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white
i work full time (salary, but actaully more like 60hrs+ a week) at an npo for the west-north-central part of my state (serving about 7 counties) we have about 600 employees. the ceo makes 150k and i (along with about 500 others) make 20-25k a year. i have two BAs and 5 years experience in this npo. did i mention that we are a health/services npo? not all whities are pigs.
I also work at an npo and make between 25 and 30k, but I still believe that many people make ridiculous money in the non-profit world and then act as though they are very altruistic in public. I think this article was about the hypocrisy of constantly reminding people you work for a non-profit when you make a six figure salary, and lots of big NPO CEOs do exactly that, and the fact is that the vast majority of them are white.
It’s a joke. White people also take themselves to seriously
Exactly the whole site is a joke. As a white person I can tell you that we love nothing more than self-deprecating humor. Clearly Indy and Ryan are the wrong kind of white people. I think what we can all take away from this is: never ever read comments on any posting anywhere on the internet, especially this one.
i dont know, i kind of enjoy all of these people taking themselves WAYY to seriously. I love reading the comments and then laughing at the people who cant take a joke.
Really? I work for a non-profit. I make jack. I made more delivering pizzas. Still, I love the sight though.
Michael on August 16, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Sorry, that’s how I get through life. At work, in school and with other people. More of a Californian thing, if I wasn’t in the state of Cal. I wouldn’t be required to, then I’m one of those autistic nerds or something tries to get by in life. I’m a product of my own environment, middle-class people get down on their luck and have to face reality. I share this guy’s sarcastic sense of humor on how he perceives the world through a “white man’s” comical point of view. +
See autism boy, I can dig up alot more on your dumb ass if you continue with this race shit that you started.
Test me bitch.
YOINK!
Whoa. Simply not true re: non-profit salaries. I say from experience, think the stats would agree by far.
HAHA I saw this site on http://www.DanielDickey.com and think it’s DEF just a funny!!
Is there a stuffjewishpeoplelike.com ??
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Hahhaahhah this site is hilarious and yes people are taking this way too seriously all this is a big joke but I do read the comments too because it’s hilarious that so many people are getting that worked up over nonsense. Or my other theory is that someone who helped start this site made multiple accounts and made these nasty comments to get people’s attention?
I also work at a non-profit, in fact, im on the board, and ive made $0 dollars this year from the 30+ hours of work i do on top of my regular job. At the same time, I, unlike you indy, understand humor, and know how to not take EVERYTHING absolutely to heart. Jeez, live a little eh.
I used to work for a non-profit and I made $12 an hour, no vacation/sick days, and no insurance or any sort of benefits. I think the only people that make 6 figures at a non-profit is the head of the organization.
I’m starting a non-profit. I sell carbon credits, after you figure out what your carbon footprint is, send me money. I’ll plant a tree to assuage your guilt for the ‘environment’. For a million dollars, I’ll plant a blackberry bush. You can’t hardly get rid of them, and they spread like mexicans. With enough million dollar contributions, we can, push people off land altogether. Who’s with me????
White people also like volunteering for non-profits because they have that sweet double-victory of “helping in worthy causes” while projecting the aura of being hard-working and dependable so that they can drum up business for their day jobs in sales or the legal profession.
Youre a fucking moron swallow a bullet you racist cow
This is a great entry but for all the wrong reasons. White people love DONATING to NPO’s that have the overpaid executives and the ones with a lot of waste and mismanagement of their budget. Often times they don’t even look at the annual reports of these groups but feel good at the end of the day as they write it off on their tax returns. The people who tend to work with these groups are typically well off to start and can justify the need to have a large salary by their experience in the for-profit industry. Additionally these NPO’s are largely funded by corporate grants and their ability to carry out their agenda is undermined by the interests of the company backing it (see “The Revolution Will Not Be Funded”)
This post was a real missed opportunity and a big let down. I was looking forward to reading something along the lines of how working for a non profit is a hip thing for bachelors degree earning liberal yuppies to do fresh out of college in their ongoing effort to “stick it to the man” and avoid a corporate lifestyle. From there you can point out the absurdities of how the practice of certain groups is completely contradictory to the mission statement, and how a lot of non-profit employees are still able to eat expensive sandwiches and go camping on their salaries, even when they work 60+ hours a week and earn less than $40K a year.
The hardest dynamic to ignore in the context of this blog is how there is now a different approach to activism among people of color within the non-profit world. While many white people embrace the major problems of the world and chose to give their time and money to help alleviate them through NPO’s, it is their favored methods of major donor-ship, corporate awareness, research, media work and open-forum discussion which define their whiteness. People of color often prefer lobbying, grassroots advocacy, demonstration, and community organizing to further their causes. Read Van Jones’ book “The Green Collar Economy” for more on how stark the differences actually are. Because both are executed within the NPO model, it is difficult to pigeonhole this entry as a definitive part of he SWPL list.
I work for a non-profit and didn’t write this on my lunch hour.
I think this whole concept is hilarious and on-point. However, I take exception with your view of nonprofits. I work at one and earn less than 40K even though I am a director with many years of experience. And as for accountability and pressure? If I don’t meet fundraising numbers, I am gone. I personally know two people who lost their jobs because of failure to meet fundraising goals. Also, there is always pressure because we have a tiny staff and I am saddled with the responsibilities of three staff people because we cannot afford to hire additional people. Besides, how easy do you think it is to get people to open their wallets and part with large sums of money for YOUR cause? And keep in mind that you must NEVER make a donor angry or a volunteer for that matter. I would like to know the nonprofit professionals on whom you based this assessment–and ask them for a job!
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All you people working at an NPO with salaries ‘only’ in the 25-30k range earn more money than over 47% of the population. Just because you don’t make six figures doesn’t mean you aren’t being paid a competitive salary for your field.
That data is completely bogus, don’t know where you came up with that number. Check the census bureau and you’ll find that 22%, not 47% earn less than $25K per year. Unless you are one of those people who throws out completely arbitrary and unfounded conjectures about the number of undocumented people living in this country that don’t get reflected in the census count. Way to disguise your racism with an ambition for understanding economics.
NPO’s are a way to hide the baloney. They often start with good intentions, but have some need to grow ..and end up being an institution that makes the purpose of their existence the financial grease to allow the machinery to run. I’ve worked at several.
If you look at ‘Personal income in the United States’ on wikipedia (sourced from the US census bearau) you would find that 47.37% earn less than $25k. But don’t let facts stop you from calling me racist when I never mentioned race.
Don’t knock it until you try it. You just might be surprised that helping others might actually make you happy. Why is being a blessing for others looked down upon?
Your racism and disgust for helping others in need will come back to you – Karma, people.
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Why are people getting so pissed about this? it’s supposed to make you laugh… I’m only 17 and I started my own non-profit with a friend, we work hard, but aren’t paid. I still think it’s funny.
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you are really good at reading into messages that don’t exist. nowhere in that post was anything said about helping others being looked down upon. the point is that if you work for a NPO because helping others makes you feel good, you are really just doing it for yourself. if you are working there because you are doing actual good it is different.
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Haha you try and claim that working for a non-profit is unaccountable if you have managed EC funded projects – they can audit your receipts up to 15 years later and make you pay back the tiniest thing that you have not accounted for. Not to mention the monster reports using the most anal monitoring and evaluation matrixes you have to submit to their full satisfaction before funds pledged for your project is actually paid… maybe in the US of A non-profits are run by cowboys but there is no room for that in the UK. For full transparency and accountability of every charity registered in England and Wales visit http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk and search by name or charity commission number 🙂 I don’t deny it is a business, but when you’re dealing with matters of other people’s lives it’s not a job for amateur pet-projects – serious professional committment is required.
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The per capita income for
the overall population in 2008 was
$26,964; for non-Hispanic Whites,
it was $31,313; for Blacks, it was
$18,406; for Asians, it was $30,292;
and for Hispanics, it was $15,674.
The Poverty level is 13.2% as of 2008
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dumbass you cant quote wikipedia. it is run by the people, hell i can go there right now and change those stats.
just what the hell is a non-hispanic white?
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I love this. You hit it right on the head. The best is when a government agency that funds your program, such as mine, does it and expects me to make make miracles.
Having said that, I know the type that Lander is talking about and have quite a few colleagues like that. Either their parents have money or they are married to someone who has money, which is why they can live in the neighborhoods that they live in with that low of a salary.
A white person whose family did not come from or had deep family heritage in Latin America. Some whites whose family heritage existed in Latin America can be considered Hispanic. If I remember, Monica Lewinsky’s father was Central American Jew; I think it was El Salvador.
I would be considered a non-hispanic or Non-Latino Asian because my family did not have a history in Latin America, at least blood relatives, but there are plenty of Asians who could be considered Hispanic, especially those whose family go generations back into Latin America, often brought over for hard labor.
What the fuck, you know that not all “whities” are not the same, right? I don’t like half the shit on this list. I find all this is very racist!
Cheer up! I’m white and I think all this stuff is hilarious! It doesn’t need to apply to you personally, we all know people who are like that in some way. It’s called self-deprecation. You will be boring and self-important if you don’t learn to appreciate it!
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Funny. I used to work for a non-profit agency and the pay was terrible. Now I work at a for-profit agency in the same field in the same geographic location and I’m paid 50% more than when I worked at the non-profit agency.
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I have a sense of humor; nevertheless, I think accuracy is what makes these articles so funny.
Please point me in the direction of a nonprofit organization wherein “you don’t have accountability or pressure”… I would be relieved to be only responsible for delivering profit to shareholders. It beats qualifying “outcomes” and quantifying R.O.I. for multiple stakeholders from multiple, often overlapping funding sources…
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I have a sense of humor; nevertheless, I think accuracy is what makes these articles so funny.
Please point me in the direction of a nonprofit organization wherein “you don’t have accountability or pressure”… I would be relieved to be only responsible for delivering profit to shareholders. It beats qualifying “outcomes” and quantifying R.O.I. for multiple stakeholders from multiple, often overlapping funding sources…
i dont get this.
i think blacks are #1 in never making a profit when and if ever we start a corporation.
duz that make cents?
Hmmm, I don’t think this is accurate at all. I have found that ALL of the nonprofit orgs that I’ve worked for here in Los Angeles to be extremely diverse, especially if compared to corporate America. And as far as accountability and pressure, there is certainly much of both. You are not pressured by shareholders or customers but rather donors and whoever you serve. Working the nonprofit sector can also be very demanding. Even if you work in one department you will also be working in several other ones. For example a person that works in Public Relations, will also have responsibilities in fundraising, event planning, pretty much anything that comes up! Non Profits are always understaffed so we wear many hats and are very over worked and usually underpaid. Competitive salaries only happen when it is a well known, very well-funded nonprofit. … FYI… PS I am not white.
lol idk if this was a joke or not but if it wasnt, a non profit organization isnt a corporation or a business that fails at making profits!
it is an organization that does not issue stock shares, or sell something or provide a service in exchange for a profit. but instead uses the funds that go for a good cause. So they fundraise money, through donations, from the government or both and use it for their cause and also to pay their staff that help run the organization.
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I thought it was interesting and I was totally unaware of the percentage of white peoples involvement in the non profit sector. So its prehetty much safe to say they dominate the non profit world. This is fine by me, by all means have it because while ur dominating the non profit sector we”ll just settle and CONTINUE to take over the United States. I”m all for enlightening and assisting others so I ll be sure to forward this info to somone who sill benefit from this information….. Mitt Romney! Maybe he” ll excel here, then again considering his abilities…..he won’t. So as you see like your caucasion president I’m sorry candidate, you can and will continue to lose as long as you continue to view things in black white. Were in a new day and age and everybody knows “THINGS LOOK BETTER IN COLOR”.
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Your clearly uneducated, but that is okay because your trying to say something negative about white people and that is “they are only helping with these organizations because it gives them a self of importance.” Well at least their doing something that can help make a difference instead of being a Mexican or Black or any other race that is clearly not from America, and only here to take jobs for less pay, rob people and even kill them. I mean it looks pathetic these uneducated people who cant even speak English are here working for dirt cheap money because I doubt they can even count and then want to complain about America especially the whites because they like to help out organizations! Come on now why don’t you actually write about something that is significant and could be helpful!
Thanks for this entry. In my mind it’s exactly on the ball, because like it or not, if you travel around you will notice that most of the top positions and staff positions in NGOs are usually filled by pedigreed whites with a few tokens spread about here and there. What makes it worth not participating is that there are white gate-keepers (of course they don’t call themselves that) who perform that function. They will target persons of color and throw their resume in the round file, or send them into a feedback loop, or browbeat or bully them.
Yes, it’s really not worth it to donate to NGOs anymore! They all take corporate money or network themselves so they are look-alikes. Ironically, the more look-alike or clone-like they are, the more disinterest grows. Of course they don’t give a darn as long as they get some money. This opinion comes from a woman who has been sent around in feedback loops (get your PE license and we may have something for you); NGOs (you’re not popular enough to warrant our reprinting your article);
Frankly, it has less to do with racism than capitalism in general. We are all playing Monopoly and it requires us to play to eliminate. Minorities just generally stand a faster chance of being eliminated. This is why our country is becoming a mess. No one likes to play to lose, and there are way too many losing spots….You go to college, are told to do this and that, and all you get is a lot more, need to do this, need to do that. But you see what an easy ride your younger person has, and they rationalize this white 25yo has such great interpersonal skills, but guess why? Maybe because they were already groomed and invited to a lot more social schmoozing parties….BLEH!
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Working at a nonprofit gives people with arts degrees a sense of importance and status who are otherwise basically unqualified to do anything in the corporate/private sector. Most people who are working at nonprofits make less than 50k a year unless you are one of the directors, then you a making over 100k. It is all a sham however because someone who truly cares about charity would not accept that much money for their personal salary and expenses. Most of these people live in half a million dollar homes and take multiple vacations each year. Most of those who are making a decent living at nonprofits are related to someone higher up who got them their job that they were otherwise unqualified for.
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