In spite of having access to the best health insurance and fanciest hospitals, white people are passionate about the idea of socialized medicine. So much so that they have memorized statistics and examples of how for-profit medicine has destroyed the United States.
But before you can exploit this information for personal gain, it’s important that you understand why white people are so in love with free health care.
The first and most obvious reason is “they have it Europe.” White people love all things European, this especially true of things that are unavailable in the United States (Rare Beers, Absinthe, legal marijuana, prostitution, soccer). The fact that it’s available in Canada isn’t really that impressive, but it does contribute to their willingness to threaten to move there.
These desires were only heightened in 2007 when Michael Moore released “Sicko,” a documentary that contrasts the health care industry in the United States with that of Canada, France and Cuba. As a general rule of thumb, white people are always extra passionate about issues that have been the subject of a Moore documentary. As a test, ask them about 9/11, Gun Control, or Health Care and then say “where did you get that information?” You will not be surprised at the results.
But the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job. This would allow them to work as a freelance designer/consultant/copywriter/photographer/blogger, open their own bookstore, stay at home with their kids, or be a part of an Internet start-up without having to worry about a benefits package. Though many of them would never follow this path, they appreciate having the option.
If you need to impress a white person, merely mention how you got hurt on a recent trip Canada/England/Sweden and though you were a foreigner you received excellent and free health care. They will be very impressed and likely tell you about how powerful drug and health care lobbies are destroying everything.
Though their passion for national health care runs deep, it is important to remember that white people are most in favor of it when they are healthy. They love the idea of everyone have equal access to the resources that will keep them alive, that is until they have to wait in line for an MRI.
This is very similar to the way that white people express their support for public schools when they don’t have children.
First!
Have you mentioned how much White People love National Public Radio?
“As a general rule of thumb, white people are always extra passionate about issues that have been the subject of a Moore documentary.”
hilarious.
McCain hates free healthcare.
Check out what Kevin Federline gets from Britney to pay for their children’s healthcare
http://theplasticspoon.blogs.com
HAHAHA SUCKERS I’M HERE
People are dying in Europe before they can receive treatment. Tell me how great that is.
They also like public schools, but would never send their kids there.
http://stuffEBPlike.com
I can never figure out if I am sufficiently white.
I don’t like Michael Moore movies… in fact I won’t even watch them. But, I have worked for an internet startup. I am self-employed and I pay for my own health insurance.
As for the Europe stuff… fuck them! I like cowboys.
I think that I am, in fact, the Wrong Kind of White Person.
this is so friggin funny – i love it.
You must do private schools. Look at public Beverly Hills High. The right kind of white people would never send their kids there.
Excellent post!!!! So true. But don’t forget, Cuba has superior health care too 😉
this blog post was brilliant!
I think Free Health Care would fall under the catagory of: as long as they can pay for better service or an upgrade. White people love having the upgrade; Health Care included.
That’s why white people threaten moving to Canada!
http://stuffwhiteparentslike.com
Speaking of Cuba, that reminds me of how much white people love to wear Che Guevara t-shirts. It’s a bold statement!
Though I suspect you know this, healthcare isn’t free for visitors to Canada. It is, however, about as cheap as the deductible on the typical healthcare plan in the US.
Getting lazy…come on, who wants to pay for health care? Be more creative.
This blog has officially jumped the shark
White people like this blog too. I hope that doesn’t make it less awesome in some way.
so canadian.
Absinthe is now legal in the United States.
White people love TIDYING UP FOR THE MAID!!!
Free anything is great! White people like to feel like they got a “deal”. It’s all part of the game.
http://www.jonesview.wordpress.com
To find out why parents don’t want to send their kids to public schools, check out http://detentionslip.org!
I also hear that unskilled, illegal aliens like “free” healthcare. So I guess it’s not just a white person thing.
That one was weak.
Ugggh, I can’t tell you how many times I have been intoxicated at some martini lounge or micro-brew pub and expounded on why America needs socialized, free healthcare.
I guess I really am a walking cliche.
“Its funny ’cause its true…”
Oh . . . I am white, and I don’t like socialized health care.
While Russia is sometimes considered 3rd world, I have seen less than good results of socialized medicine there. Doctors are much, much less educated in Russia than the USA.
Medicine is not seen as a lucrative profession at all in Russia and many smart people do not go into it simply because one can hardly live well as a doctor or nurse.
The lucrative nature of medicine in the USA keeps our methods on the cutting edge.
I much prefer the system in America, while we certainly need to work harder to give poorer people some basic health coverage, I wouldn’t want a socialized system.
McCain hates Canada.
McCain hates National Public Radio.
Actually, the free health care (not totally free btw) in Canada only applies to Canadians and landed immigrants. If you’re a visitor here, you still have to pay big bucks if you want to access the Canadian health system…
I’m not sure the “wait in line for an MRI” argument is applicable to the USA.
Because health care is such a lucrative business in the US, you’d be hard pressed to find a hospital without an MRI machine. Add to that the number of stand alone MRI Centers that have sprung up to get in on the money and you can see that access to care is not as big a problem in the US as in some other countries.
One could argue that the very existence of the competitive health care system has put the US in a perfect position to adopt Socialized Medicine at this time. The requisite infrastructure is already in place, i.e. adequate facilities to meet the expected demand.
I would research this further, but I’m TOO BUSY!
“If you need to impress a white person, merely mention how you got hurt on a recent trip Canada/England/Sweden and though you were a foreigner you received excellent and free health care.”
Not true, I am a white person who recently got hurt on a trip to Canada. I received excellent care, for $150 CASH out of pocket because I was a foreigner. Had I been Canadian on the national health plan…$25. And I have insurance in the US, but the out of country deductible is $150!….greatttt.
hahaha. awesome. silly w/p and their “free” healthcare.
i must point out, however:
michael moore : documentary :: george tenet : national intelligence estimate
If thats correct, its similar to what Americans are experiencing.
People are dying in the States because they can’t afford access to treatment:
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/120591559392020.xml&coll=2
The structure of health care in America is so that it makes it a commodity, not a necessity. But thats a moral dilemma and we Americans would rather focus our energies on the bottom line.
Considering the bottom line, it looks as though are inability to provide universal health care has Canada gaining an even greater economic advantage over America:
http://www.counterpunch.org/lindorff04192005.html
I am so white, so for universal “humanized” health care, and more inclined to stop threatening to and actually move to Canada.
This is an example of a post I disagree with. While White People do like the idea, it’s because it’s a good one, not because on any silly harmless white people obsession like North Face or anything like that.
Studies have shown that our country is one of the worst-off health wise and quality of life despite having this so-called greatest health care system. There’s additionally an upcoming documentary about how the poorest among us are dying much sooner than rich folks because of the stress, poor nutrition and such in their life that affects them just as much as not having healthcare does.
But please don’t do a post about how white people like to talk about the poor. because if it was really true and not just a couple east-coast rich liberals, then we wouldn’t have poor people anymore.
I do wish people would stop confusing “access” with “availability” and “insurance coverage” with “health care”.
You can have insurance but have no access to care.
You can have available care but not insurance coverage.
Not having coverage is NOT not having access to care, it just means your going to pay through the nose for care.
That should be “you’re”…sorry.
I was TOO BUSY to proofread!! LOL
Ummmmm, waiting in line for an MRI (or hip replacement, etc.) is what happens in countries with socialized medicine. Since we have, generally, privatized medicine in the US, we have minimal waits for anything and everything.
Always amazes me how folks smart enough to run a computer and read someone’s blog, have no rasp of irony and sarcasm.
How about a post on sarcasm? “White people have no clue about sarcasm, and take everything soooooo seriously.”
“They love the idea of everyone have equal access to the resources that will keep them alive, that is until they have to wait in line for an MRI.”
Ahh, the classic fallacy of socialised medicine. Here’s the thing – in the UK, there’s plenty of private healthcare for those who want/can afford it, AND the National Health Service for those who don’t/can’t.
Why are almost all the arguments against it based around the supposition that it’s an either/or scenario?
dude. you’re so white!
Brilliant! Don’t forget how they mention the government will pay for the healthcare, and at the same time ignoring the issue of who pays the government.
“White people love all things European, this especially true of things that are unavailable in the United States (Rare Beers, Absinthe, legal marijuana, prostitution, soccer).”
Since when is prostitution unavailable in the US?
Ha, sorry. Great post.
http://mantivities.wordpress.com/
I’m thinkin’ you’re the red-necked kind.
White people thoroughly enjoy jumping the shark.
This is some interesting timing.
I buy private health insurance for my wife because it’s cheaper than adding her to my employer-provided insurance.
Yesterday we got a letter from our insurance company saying that her application for insurance, which was completed a year ago, said she did not have a c-section. We know this was a mistake made by our insurance agent, because we know we told him she had a c-section. Nevertheless, the form says she did not and it has her signature on it.
Because they’re claiming she did not disclose this information, our insurance provider is not going to cover the c-section for our second child, which we’ve scheduled for a month from now.
That’s right: my wife is eight months pregnant, and we’ve just now learned that the insurance we’ve been paying premiums on for a year will not cover the c-section we will almost certainly have in four weeks. That means we have to pay for the $28,000 procedure out of pocket, which is almost my entire annual salary.
Thank you, American health care system!
Absinthe is legal, yes, but without its most potent ingredient: wormwood. I liken this strain of Absinthe to Diet Coke.
Theoretically, this Absinthe should sell well in the US: we white people love our Diet Coke.
FREE RUSSIAN JEWS!
Collect them or trade them with your friends!
Siggyboss, who do you think pays the insurance companies?
Your annual tax bite would probably be lower than your annual insurance premiums.
White love typos, for instance, ‘They have it Europe’ should be ‘They have it IN Europe’.
I think this should be reposted as “White People Like Other White People Who Aren’t Idiots Running the United States”.
I’m fairly certain we wouldn’t be discussing how poor health care in the US is if we didn’t have Lenny from OF MICE AND MEN running the country.
[…] said, I love it. Though their passion for national health care runs deep, it is important to remember that white […]
White people love typos, for instance, ‘White love typos’ should be ‘White PEOPLE love typos’.
I need free Healthcare.
BehindtheApprovalMatrix[dot]com
hold on a minute…who said that “all” white people support free healthcare, or public education, or Michael Moore, or “all things Europe”?
do “all” black people like rap music?
do “all” black people support Jesse Jackson?
do “all” black people support racial violence in our country?
is it really fair to make racial judgements, even as simple and benign as these generalizations ?!
….we do need a better healthcare system for ALL people, than the one we currently have
….public education in theory is a very good idea, but in reality has flaws, and not meeting many needs of the children, both black and white
….in my opinion, Michael Moore is outspoken jerk with too much money and time on his hands, and not humble enough to put himself to hard work for the improvement of civil rights, human rights, or ecological awareness; “people in glass houses……”
White people love typos, for instance, ‘They have it Europe’ should be ‘They have it IN Europe’.
RUSSIA? Russia’s life expectancy is 128th in the world, behind such paradises as Guyana, Turkmenistan, Mongolia and Azerbaijan. I should damn well hope our healthcare is better than Russia’s.
One should never be too busy to proofread.
I second that!
http://IGotUGGs.com
I washed my pants!
1 up, when I was in Japan I received great health care for almost nothing 😉
Seriously though, this post is political shit. I would go as far as saying that white people like the idea of free heath care, but don’t understand how it would work really. But beyond that it is a color blind issue. National health care is not free, the payments are just consolidated and spread out over the entire population making it on average much cheaper.
And the times I am most in favor of national health care is when I have to deal with my fucking insurance company when I do get sick or hurt. “Sign here, here, here, and here. Ok, so what happened to your hand?”
I guess you don’t have to worry about it anymore since you are $300,000 richer.
yeah waiting in line does really suck…currently there are no lines for an mri. that rocks 😉
Since Spitzer put them all on HIS payroll.
You are *so* not getting it.
If you read all the things white people like and don’t laugh, turn the page, ma’am, nothing here for you to see.
#95: Not Dying. White people love to live, unlike minorities!
I love this blog. Not this post, though.
#95–Not getting the point of Stuff White People Like
Don’t Blame America, Kyle.
Blame your cheap employer, your incompetent insurance agent and yourselves for not reading the forms before you signed them.
bravo!
Absinthe actually IS legal and available in the U.S. Just sayin’.
No, but do white people like illegal aliens?
Free healthcare is a bad idea. Yet another example of something “white people like” that a white person views as a bad idea.
Bad news… for the first time this blog has seriously missed the mark. It’s a sad, sad day.
Yes, I stated that already.
It’s not *real* Absinthe, though.
one should never be too white to proofread
“But the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job”
You’re right – white people love nothing more than having colored people sitting and doing actual work. Can’t tell you how many meetings I’ve been in where there’s 1 white guy with 5 or more colored folks. The white guy looks totally bored and out of it while the colored guys are talking about stuff that actually matters (i.e. work).
The people who don’t like or agree with socialized health care have never been poor students with a broken bone requiring multiple x-rays, CAT scans, hospital visits and physical therapy, that would have cost thousands of dollars.
I am so grateful I never have to worry about money when I visit the doctor.
–white Canadian
Totally lame, totally untrue. Pure crap.
40-50% OF MY WAGES????? I THOUGHT YOUR EUROPEAN/CANADIAN HEALTHCARE WAS FREE!!!
BLAME CANADA!
Sheila: Times have changed
Our kids are getting worse
They won’t obey their parents
They just want to fart and curse!
Sharon: Should we blame the government?
Liane: Or blame society?
Dads: Or should we blame the images on TV?
Sheila: No, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their beady little eyes
And flapping heads so full of lies
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: We need to form a full assault
Everyone: It’s Canada’s fault!
Sharon: Don’t blame me
For my son Stan
He saw the damn cartoon
And now he’s off to join the Klan!
Liane: And my boy Eric once
Had my picture on his shelf
But now when I see him he tells me to fuck myself!
Sheila: Well, blame Canada
Everyone: Blame Canada
Sheila: It seems that everything’s gone wrong
Since Canada came along
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Copy Guy: They’re not even a real country anyway
Ms. McCormick: My son could’ve been a doctor or a lawyer rich and true,
Instead he burned up like a piggy on the barbecue
Everyone: Should we blame the matches?
Should we blame the fire?
Or the doctors who allowed him to expire?
Sheila: heck no!
Everyone: Blame Canada
Blame Canada
Sheila: With all their hockey hullabaloo
Liane: And that bitch Anne Murray too
Everyone: Blame Canada
Shame on Canada
For…
The smut we must stop
The trash we must bash
The Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!
Well, this was a funny blog, but this post sounds like it was written by a Reason Magazine intern who isn’t nearly as funny or smart as he thinks he is.
wp *love* to emphasize ‘so’ when correcting someone with the phrase: you’re *so* not getting it.
wp love to say ‘moral dilemma’
Idiots, he’s not saying that foreigners receive free health care in Canada. He’s asying that you should MENTION that particular falsehood if you need to impress a white person.
Idiots.
You ain’t said nuttin’ but a WORD!
White people don’t love typos, they love pointing them out. Big difference.
This blog is a lot funnier when it’s fairly apolitical. This is probably the worst post yet.
White people love their bold and italicize buttons but when we don’t have them available, we have to use asterisks. At least we’re utilizing more keys on the keyboard.
I think this is a great post, rather true, and despite the nasty mcnastersons comments, i think its quite funny and well written. poo on them.
Why are you trying to support a wife and at least two children on a $28,000/year salary?
Make responsible choices!!
I think one important aspect of why white people love free healthcare is being overlooked… #62 Knowing what’s best for poor people!
You must be white, Zach, because your post should read, “White [people] love typos[.] [F]or instance…”
One more thing. White people prefer PPO to HMO. They would rather choose their own doctors after researching their problem thoroughly on the internet.
http://www.jonesview.wordpress.com
Please don’t confuse “covered at 100%” with “free”.
The provider of service is getting paid for caring for you.
You just have higher insurance premiums. When people think that the care is free, they tend to over-utilize the system further driving up the premiums they love to hate.
That’s why they love their doctor but hate their insurance company. The insurance company that paid their doctor. Stop going to the doctor for trivial complaints and wasting the money in the premium pool that your co-workers also contribute to.
Just because you have 100% coverage or a small co-pay does not mean that large bills are not being generated for your care and are being paid on your behalf behind the scenes.
Isn’t it better if people would just make more money and not get sick? If that were to happen then we wouldn’t need health care!
http://theplasticspoon.blogs.com
Come on, don’t kick him when he’s down. Oh wait, that’s another thing white people like.
Um, Lucy, students get healthcare through the university.
I suppose you’ve never been an ambitious person, taking charge of your own future, who has 50% of your income taxed so that other people can have your money without earning it.
wp love utilizing stuff.
If it’s free it’s for me!
Love it.
wp love talkin ghetto when dey ain’t got shit to say
Speaking only for myself, I like the idea of universal health care because I haven’t seen a doctor in any serious way since 2003. Though I’m aware that white folks without health benefits are the wrong kind of white people that this blog does not address.
What.
For future reference, you’ll want to note that #94 is where you crossed the line from gentle satire into Jonah Goldberg-level “analysis”. I mean, really–Michael Moore Euro socialism loving white people? Come on, whatever your political leanings, this is just lazy.
White people refer to them as CT scans now.
Maybe you are part of the sub white group called redneck? Believe me, you are extremely white, just not the yuppie educated type described on this group. Stop reading it and subscribe to http://www.redneckworld.com/ instead.
Lander, forgive your humble servant for doubting you in a slump. You have pointed to the left field wall and belted it out of the park. Brilliant. The ‘natural’ is back.
If you read Portuguese and want to know about stuff a white Brazilian woman likes: http://www.escrevalolaescreva.blogspot.com
My “white” rating is like an 87. Ridiculous. Although, at least now I’m a “self-aware” white person…
I’m totally buying this book when it comes out, and putting it on my coffee table in Canada. It’s the only thing suitable for the dinner parties I’ll be having while Wes Anderson movies play in the background.
Article #1 says (whether the journalist wants to admit it or not) that 750 Ohians died because they didn’t seek medical treatment. The white elephant of that story is that anyone can receive medical care in the U.S., whether insured or not.
Article #2 works really, really hard to lay the blame for jobs migrating to Canada entirely at the feet of health insurance costs, but why is the story entirely about the auto industry? Why can’t they make the claim that all industries are flitting away to the Great White North? Perhaps because the real issue isn’t health care costs at all, but the increasingly unreasonable demands made by auto workers unions in the face of increased competition and significantly lower profit margins industry-wide. Health insurance costs are the scapegoat here because they’re one of the few variables auto manufacturers can control in reducing production costs. In almost every other area, their hands are tied by unions — reality be damned.
Finally, how great would Canada’s system of socialized medicine be (or Europe’s, for that matter), if the US socialized and R&D funding for new phamaceuticals and medical technologies dried up? Not very, I wager.
clander, could you please do an entry on jogging? White do love to jog!
Whatz yer mama gunna say’n you BUST out a winda?
Yet… White people also support privatized health care, probably at a higher margin than other races, since other races are more likely to have liberal views.
This post was a bit too partisan for me…
Having to haggle for healthcare is embarassing. Trying to convince a doctor that my cosmetic surgical procedure actually will benefit his practice is nearly impossible, especially without the virtual bust enhancement preview.
Damn them! The pharmaceutical lobby is threatening all that I hold dear about my Whiteness including, but not limited to:
1) Hardcore southern rap music
2) My ability to buy valium on the black market
3) Restless leg syndrome
4) The illusion of a beautiful fantasy land where television is free of erectile dysfunction commercials.
Michael Moore should make a documentary about that
White people love organizing and then utilizing.
clander, could you please do one on jogging? White people do love to jog. It shows off their performance enhancing clothes.
White people love Ethan Hawke (except for this one).
goooooooooood. Did you not just read the blog? How white are you?
I agree.
What the heck is this blog? Just stumbled by… was that post tongue in cheek or what?
Um. I’m so white I glow in the dark. I am NOT for socialized medicine in any way shape or form. Michael Moore is a total LOON. AND our public school system sucks.
….that the blog has jumped the shark, that is.
Inclined to move to Canada for free healthcare? Good, get out, that means there is one less moron in the US.
thanks very much for the links the offer proof of your opinions being fact. i am now convinced that i should hand all of my decision making responsibilities to either you or hillary clinton.
LOL!!!!!!!
You know what else white people like? Pretending that libertarian solutions work, while ignoring all the real world evidence that it doesn’t.
They also all really like pretending they’re Howard Roarke types.
Well, not just researching on the Internet, but penultimately approaching the doctor with a diagnosis.
another funny line
– http://www.anythingblack.net
No, but it may be “tongue-in-cheek”.
Oy gevalt!
wp like illegal aliens mowing their lawn for $10.
life is not fair and that is too bad. i suggest you sponsor a poor person and try to make there life better. please don’t make me do it though.
My favorite argument against socialized medicine:
“You have to wait 6 months for an Xray, 8 months for an MRI”
wp love to blame w. and name drop literary characters from classic books.
Class. Region. This blog is about class, socio-economic class, about regional demographics, AND political bent, not “race.” Much of this is not stuff “white” people like — it’s stuff upper-middle class, college-educated, Whole-Foods-buying, Kumbaya-singing, urban-dwellers like. And more power to us, but we aren’t all “white.”
Or is that what you meant, but knew that everyone conflates being upper-middle-class with being white? And being poor with being black?
At the risk of encouraging the behavior…
The comments saying “White people like ” are cracking me up!
wp love affecting redneck accents when it can benefit them in some way.*
*see clinton, hillary
In fact, I bet if they sold Howard Roark costumes, white people would all dress up as Howard Roark for Halloween. They would all be expressing their ardent individuality and free spirit while spouting the counterlogical ideas of a manic-depressive elitist socialite.
White people love Ayn Rand.
umm.. apparently I used some sort of html code that I know nothing about but what I meant to say was..
The comments saying “White people like (…insert random thing someone mentioned in another post…)” are cracking me up!
wp love ikea.
The class of white folk skewered on this blog also love bashing the United States. They have no comeback when I say that we might be speaking German if it weren’t for the good old USA. White people like the idea of honoring veterans but such military service makes them uncomfortable. It flies in their face that our soldiers do put themselves in harms way and fight for their right to bash the United States and pay $12.00 for a ham and cheese sandwich.
wp love being cracked up
wp love to say “we might be speaking german…”
Are you an example of the “wrong kind of white person?”
I wish people white people (especially white and non-white politicians) would quit referring to it as “free” healthcare when MY taxes are going to go up to pay for it.
Maybe this one will work too. Another thing white people like is understated elegance or, as I like to call it, dowdiness. Think Eileen Fischer. There is an art in spending a lot of money on clothes to make you look unassuming and above materialism, and my, have white people mastered it. Having gone to a New England boarding school and a liberal arts college filled with trustifarians, I can certainly point out a kid from old money dressed in paupers clothing. White Kids at my school proudly wear the holes in their filthy clothes as badges of their privileged progressive ideals.
Keep up the good work. By the way, at my college, we have a racial awareness club and we’re including your blog in a workshop entitled “White America: Beyond the Media”. Thanks for providing a scathing social indictment wrapped in sheep’s clothing (humor).
(and OMG, if you sell the book Stuff White People Like at Urban Outfitters, it will almost be too much…)
your life must be so very painful
wp love to say “that is” to clarify that they are idiots.
yes it is fair.
wp love to say “MY taxes”
This is ridiculous–there are many reasons people want this kind of health care, and it’s not just white people or even all white people. This one just went a bit too far. It doesn’t even make sense.
Not as painful as if I were named Jack.
First to be stupid, yes.
wp believe that if poor people really wanted health insurance, they would just stop being so poor and buy some
Well, then, HOT DAMN, I’m white!
And it’s all W’s fault anyway.
WP also love to say “It’s MY money, not the government’s money”.
Not least because the guy who owns Urban Outfitters is also a secret conservative whose products are used primarily by young white people.
Also, Bush lied and people died.
You have the balls to say that when your ID on this blog is Beatnik Samurai? Idiot.
I think it’s global warming’s fault. G.W. is the source of all our ills (not G.W. Bush).
I agree. Health care was never discussed prior to 2000. Ever.
That wasn’t redneck. It was little black kid.
I don’t expect you to discern that in a blog, however.
Oh dear. Am I not white if I don’t like Ikea? It really gives me the creeps. How about if I like Ethan Allen furniture or Thomasville? May I regain my status?
WP love bashing people who bash the United States. They can never point anyone out (other than people caricatured by FoxNews), but they know that they exist.
WP would love nothing more than to put these America-bashers into prison camps where they belong.
A clarification should be made here. To white people, “free” means “paid for by the collective”. By this definition, Social Security is also free. And Social Security is another thing that white people like.
wp love to be redundant.
I don’t and no thanks.
Is there a rating system for one’s whiteness?
Oooooh! Do tell!
wp love to clarify.
Blame the system for you and your wife not reading what you sign. It’s never the fault of the wrong type of white people.
White people love Jane Austen, wouldn’t you agree, Mr. Willoughby?
wp love taking themselves very seriously.
Don’t be jealous a-hole…
Yes! You can do a new post and call it white people love mass murdering f*ckheads!
White people like having health care be only for the privileged. If there were universal health care, white people would opt out of it, to prove their Howard Roarkish individualism and moxie.
Then they’d complain about “those” people taking “MY taxes”, and vote for John McCain.
White people love John McCain.
Here in the Bay Area (with our “famous company” ritzy health insurance) we waited 4 months (um, 4 MONTHS!) to get our newborn infant MRI’d because she’d had seizures when she was born – it was the soonest appointment they could provide.
Aside: I love this funny site. I suppose it don’t hurt that it makes you think, but still I feel strange leaving such a serious comment.
As my moniker implies, that was unreasonably frustrating. Grow a sense of humor and come back.
Apparently.
Wow, almost all the posts in this blog have resonated with me on some level, until this one.
Perhaps it’s my European-ness showing, but the idea of socialised health care (in Ireland’s case, with optional private health care) is hardly a wild hippy left wing idea. The idea that basic health care is available only to those who can pay seems barbaric.
That this would be satirised in the same manner as apple fan boys and threatening to move to Canada just sits very oddly.
*written on a mac by someone who hopes to move to Canada some day*
White people will lose interest in socialized medicine when it becomes clear that it won’t give them anything “for free.” It will give things for free to other people at their expense, and force them to buy insurance if they don’t have it.
It all comes down to the grand dream of total selfish fecklessness, as clander points out. Once they read the fine print on any possible proposal (we’re not communists here, nobody’s nationalizing health care) and realize that their lives won’t improve but their taxes will go way up, they’ll just make some white person excuse about how it’s not “fair” enough or whatever and not support it. All the real plans mean forcing everybody who can afford it to buy insurance if they don’t have it, and tax them whatever it takes to insure the people poorer than them (who don’t take care of their bodies and cost a spectacular amount when you try, futilely, to stay on top of the damage they do to it).
Working class people have money for a supercharger to strap on top of their camaro’s engine, so they have enough money to buy insurance if they want it. They don’t buy it because they’ll get treated for free anyway, as it stands, and a supercharger has a chance of getting them laid. The hospital eats the cost and passes it on to productive citizens. This is just a big tax idea to make sure that the hospitals get paid for everybody’s care instead of just most. No wonder the doctors support it!
wp love their status.
In this country, one must have health insurance to go to college. It’s our way of keeping the lazy or undesriables out of the club.
Not to be confused with “crackers”. White people do NOT like being called “cracker”. We do like our Ritzes and Cheez-its, don’tcha know.
You may have a point, as humorless as you are.
Hey, I resent that. I bash the US whenever I get the opportunity, which is usually every day.
Long live W…
…somewhere else.
It seems to me that this post is ridiculing the upper-class, awareness-conscious yuppie type who want to cash in on a service that would benefit the poor and working class, who can not (or can barely) afford health care. I don’t think these people (the yuppies) deserve free health care either, but only a complete a** would claim our health care system is fine as it is.
Some people in our country would wait however long it takes to receive health care, if that means they can actually be treated. How about this solution–the people who can afford it can pay a set premium in order to be treated in private clinics with limited admission, so that they will not have to wait as long. The people who cannot afford it, will still be treated, but will go to the public clinics where they will have to wait. Yeah, it’s a farblown suggestion and maybe it’s been said before, but I think it would work if we could iron out the kinks. At least then more people will get the care that they need, and maybe the yammering would stop about the six month waits (a figure that is greatly exaggerated.)
Also, are these people who complain about the waits aware that the reason they DON’T have to wait right now is because too many people are unable to afford basic health care? It’s definitely not just your “White” people who think some kind of revision is needed.
White people really like Econ 101. They don’t like Econ 102 or 103, but Econ 101 is something they love to talk about. Especially when it comes to people who are dying. White people think back on their Econ 101 professor (who was also white), and reminisce fondly about why dying dude deserves to die.
And this one
White People love confusing cost with value.
The problem with most things received from the government is that they aren’t worth what you pay for them.
Yes, this is exactly why 46 million people are uninsured in the United States.
I know that this is the comments section of a WordPress blog, but even so this is a shockingly retarded comment.
Don’t white people also like threatening (and never doing it) moving to Canada?
That would be Carr’s with Stilton or brie, thank you.
Goat cheese if I have a white wine handy.
WP are way cool.
wp love to say ‘discern’.
hy·per·bo·le /haɪˈpɜrbəli/
–noun Rhetoric.
1. obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2. an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”
White people hate the government. Except when they want a bailout. White people love bailouts.
There should be some type of tax subsidy to upgrade my Monte Carlo so I can get laid (more often). In these here parts its much more impressive to have a loud engine, shiny wheels and an obscenely loud car stereo than a health plan.
You can take your celibate ass on in your prius to the private hospital.
I can check my stds at planned parenthood for free
Vroom vroom
Free health care is socialism. I don’t care who believes it’s free. How free can it be when the government takes half of my pay check to pay for someone else to go to a doctor any time they want to. Try getting a doctor when health care is free.
Hitlery may be white, but don’t think this white boy wants everyone to get what took me a life time to save for.
Socialized medicine would be a huge disaster in the U.S. The government can’t even run the IRS or the DMV, the last thing I would want is them in charge of health care. Where in the constitution does it say we are entitled to health care?
Michael Moore is a big fat liar.
I’d love to wait months for a surgery under a socialize healthcare program…that sounds fun
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“But the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job.”
This is so true!!
Don’t forget they also know what’s best for poor people.
I’d rather be first to post but did that happen for me?
http://www.asusportsreport.com/
Um…okay, but much of it is self-deprecating. Do you not see that or are you bent on finding “scathing social indictment”?
I make fun of my race because we have many faults. Every race does. Either you make fun of it and walk away laughing or you take everything literally and build racial tensions. Guess we know what mouth you feed.
Anybody else getting a little tired of this blog’s schtick? Racism can be funny when it’s innocent, but political posts like these smack of vindictiveness.
Hey, my supercharger came with my car!
http://www.tucc.org
Oh, now that was funny!
So you’re saying welfare should be renamed “sociofare”?
🙂
A-friggin-men.
My daddy used to say “there’s no such thing as a free lunch”
then he’d smack the sandwich out my mouth
All poor people should just go get another job to supplement the crappy ones they already have. The lines at my neighborhood McDonald’s are too long.
What’ a “smack of vindictiveness”?
I don’t know. Posting “I like cowboys” on the internet is the sort of thing that’ll get your ass kicked by rednecks… if they misinterpret you.
Last I checked R&D in pharmaceuticals was pretty extensive in all of the countries you mentioned BS, particularly Europe.
But on the other hand we have a completely autonomous watchdog like the FDA to watch out for our best interests, that I’m sure greatly restricts the ability of these companies to operate at their most efficient/profitable levels. Right.
Now excuse me while I head north to fill my prescription.
I think it was a brilliant skewer of socialized medicine. I particularly liked the summation.
Keep up the good work 🙂
You don’t write–or think–much do you? What the hell is awareness-conscious? Did you actually have a point, or were you just randomly tapping keys? I can’t even argue with your statement because I don’t know what you’re rambling about. It’s as close to reading nothing as I’ve come in a long time.
Now, since you obviously have been huffing paint, I’ll just make my own point and whether or your addled, gelatinous brain can fathom it is beyond my control.
We have universal health care. It’s called Medicare and Medicaid. You just have to be old, or have certain conditions to be eligible (such as ESRD). Virtually every state has some sort of health care system to address the needs of the poor, indigent and youth. Now, the quality of the care available to these people in hospitals who serve mostly people like themselves is a whole other story. Trying to bring the quality level up to par and provide health care providers with adequate compensation no matter which type of patient they’re treating is the crux of the matter.
Anyway, it’s broke for good, our health care system is. So, who cares? I have no children to worry about and–for now–have my own health insurance. So the rest of you can play with your peter for all I care.
I’m glad you stated “to pay for their children’s healthcare” or I would have answered “warts”.
White people definietely do not like genital warts.
That’s “definitely”.
Typo.
White people like to be part of a moral dilemma.
with bacon on top!
mmmm…bacony bailouts.
that is too funny and yet so true! Urban Outfitters, a very white store too white, blinding white, LOL
Understood. Wink, wink.
even if we get universal health care we will still have a private industry to fall back on, hell check out the way britin is doin it. If someone needs a specilized surgery they can either wait in line, or go to the private sector. this whole blog is pointless.
Free health care is fine and dandy, but I love the idea of receiving fellatio without having a full-time job even more.
of all the posts, this one elicited my first honest to goodness LOL.
I think mass-murdering f***heads is a step in the righ direction. What’s your address?
/raises hand slowly.
I spent several years in my early 20s without health insurance, working for a company that simply didn’t provide it. There is nothing funny about the reality of that situation.
You are trivializing a serious, legitimate issue here. I hate to break this to you, Christian, but not every white person is a spoiled twat like you are.
I guess you are very lucky that you, yourself, are one of the “right” kinds of white people that your blog finds such pleasure in mocking.
White people love specialized surgery, especially when it involves the enhancement, addition or removal of body parts.
Hey ma, where is my flesh-toned silicone removable lifelike myslexic coinjoined twin?!
first of all you are so racists here, keep segregating and u’ll see what yall get, every other country in the world hates USA, and you hate each other, this country has no future with all this shyt u have inside. Look at Sweden, they have socialism naturally, they tax rich people so their salaries aren’t that big in the end and ppl who make less are taxed less, and they have free childcare, free medical, free education for EVERY citizen, no matter what color he/she is, by the way they have a lot of other races and ir couples, there is no race problem, everyone live in peace. You need to learn to get over all your hatery bullshyt cuz Fed puts you all in slavery, you all are in debts, the president is like a dog for Fed which is private organization. Wake up people your going down!
You’re an idiot. Specialized surgery isn’t cosmetic surgery.
wp love joking about being white, but still wanting you to know they are white.
All cosmetic surgery is special, just ask Pamela Anderson and Michael Jackson
i just started a conversation at a professional mixer two nights ago with some IT guys who work in pharma about why i would never work for that industry because, among many reasons, they try to keep the price of drugs up and work to keep it illegal to go to canada to get cheap drugs. i’m a real party starter, huh? thankfully they were geeks and we all had fun.
oh, i’m black and puerto rican. but i like everything on this list. except standing still at concerts. that sucks.
This is way too far in SeriousLand for this blog, but I’ll bite anyway: European R&D spending has steadily declined over the past 20 years. In the 80s they actually spent more annually than the US. Now they don’t spend anywhere near as much.
Head north while you can.
if you don’t like your DMV blame your state, not the federal government. my state’s motor vehicle commission has improved dramatically.
All cardinals are birds. Not all birds are cardinals.
All cosmetic surgery is special. Not all special surgery is cosmetic.
Damn.
I now look forward to Christian’s take on other hot political topics:
#95 Abortion
Despite their love of films such as Juno and Knocked Up, white people love abortion. You can use this to your advantage by describing your support for a “woman’s choice” when the opportunity presents itself. …
The secret reason white people all love abortion is that it allows them to have consequence-free sex.
If the government could subsidize a universal “sense of humor” that would do more to improve this country than any health plan.
I certainly think having a brain-damaged Lemur running the country is why there has been no answer to the health care situation, global warming and a myriad of other tidily-ignored situations.
(I cannot comment about Al Gore “losing” to W because it’s this generation’s answer to losing an argument if Hitler is mentioned.)
Moral dilemma’s are awesome. There really is no solution or answer, but can be argued about until the end of time.
And anyway, health care is never going to be free – do you know how they would pay for a sub-standard socialized medical system? By taxing the pants off of everyone – oh wait I’m sorry, just the middle class because not only can the middle and upper middle class afford to pay for their own familiy’s welfare, but other people’s families’ too.
Yes everyone should have access to healthcare – but in no way can it be free – someone is always going to pay.
Paul Krugman this morning?
Amen!
“But the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job. ”
Absolutely! I swear this is how all my college friends and I justify our corporate jobs (a la “my spouse owns a restaurant/is in grad school/is an artist, one of us needs benefits.”) and are beginning to justify going back to work after having kids. Of course it’s not because I need to be around adults or feel like I’m still a successful urbanite, it’s because I could never afford private health insurance if I weren’t working, or something.
Woops! This blog just jumped the shark. Healthcare is serious goddamn issue. Poking fun at priveleged, arrogant twits is one thing, but trying to deflate the dialog about national healthcare is pretty fucking evil.
I was stoked when I heard about your book deal, Christian, but I hope that crap like this won’t be included. You’re usually so funny! What happened?
Sorry – dilemmas. That was going to drive me crazy.
[…] April 4, 2008 Have you read “Stuff White People Like“? […]
Thank you.
What she said!
This has probably been said a million times, but it’s abundantly clear from this particular topic that you really mean “White Americans,” and even that is too broad (or exclusive?). However, I won’t lie, I love this blog and check it every day for updates.
Anyways, yes, people in free-healthcare countries have to wait sometimes, but the fact that it’s free changes everything. I met someone recently who told me that his mother would not be alive today were it not for Canada’s free healthcare. She had to have so many surgeries, paying for it would not have been possible. After hearing his story, I reaffirmed my beliefs in love of free healthcare.
You’re getting lazy man. The latest entries are not so good. You can do better than this.
Don’t other races like things that are bad ideas?
I’m thinkin’ blacks and crack pipes.
I’m just sayin’.
White people love sponsoring poor people (especially if they’re brown).
Well, can’t do anything about my skin color.
Although, Michael Jackson did…
Really? Trying living a couple of years without health care and see how healthy your sense of humor is.
not bad
http://mantivities.wordpress.com
the white should be crisp and refreshing, though. not stale and cloying.
Er..if white people really did want socialized healthcare and if black people have already been wanting socialized healthcare then why doesn’t the US have socialized healthcare? Something doesn’t add up.
White people aren’t confusing cost with value: we have health insurance and the poor, welfare taking trash don’t. We’re just patting them on the head and saying: “See, we care about you. Here, have some HDTV. That’s a good boy! Yes you are!” We also know, if it came down to it, and everyone had the same basic level of health care, we’d still be willing to pay more to get top shelf care–and not what the brown folk were getting.
As it is, we don’t see whitey floating around the hospitals in our inner cities for good reason: they suck, people die there, while clinical staff steal from the place or clock in and go find a place to sleep. They’re crap holes in other words. MLK-Drew near L.A. got its federal funding cut off completely last year, it sucked so bad.
So, no, there is no confusion among most white folk. Brown hospital=bad, white hospital=good. As long as this basic premise remains true, all the talk about universal health care is a sham, a ploy democrats make use of to show how much they care for all the little people. Hypocrites, let’s see them go to the LA county medical center–right next to the coroner’s department–for care. I don’t think Barak or Clinton would even step out of their car there without hefty Secret Service protection.
Hurray for the Caring, Loving, Patronizing Democraps! They love everyone! Hurray for Universal Health Care (for all those brown people down there)! Maybe they’ll give us all coupons for free wings at Popeye’s Chicken!
wp love it when things ‘improve dramatically’.
Also, Bush opened his mouth and people laughed.
WP love to LOL.
wp love cardinals???
…until they find out how much of his “facts” aren’t facts at all.
Then white people feel betrayed.
Oh, thank God. I can unlock my front door now.
“several years in my early 20s ”
wp love imaginary numbers
You are a lucky person for having caught that before I did.
…and until George W Bush leaves the country, there will be one too many.
it did not jump the shark, you just jumped the shark by saying you jumped the shark
what white people like: saying something just jumped the shark
ohhhh the hypocrisy!!!
Remember that there’s plain old Russia and “White Russia” – Lithuania (#61), Latvia (#92) and Estonia (#105).
White people like “White Russia”.
The most accurate part of this is that they want it so they can freelance. Once you have a spouse or children on your plan, there is no financial benefit to paying for your own plan. As a single, you can get away with it and still turn a profit over a salaried job.
This blog continues to be entertaining and thought-provoking, thanks for the excellent work. Unfortunately, all the negative and repetitive comments from a bunch of jealous hacks distract from the point of blogging and subsequent conversation. “Hey, look, I was the first to say “jumping the shark – I’m so clever.” Who cares what you retards think, this isn’t written for you and no one is paying you to write your pretentious opinion. All the entries are worthwhile and you people only wish you were mentioned in the comics, ESPN the magazine, or had a book deal. SWPL is for entertainment purposes only so stop hating – you’re part of the problem. Keep up the fine work and kudos on all your success C.Lander.
and roflcopters too!!!
White people like using the word “awesome” inappropriately.
That business with the waiting is not true, not true, not true! My experience runs the gamut from uninsured to participant in a social medical system in Japan (how white is that!) to enrollment in a generous employer program back in the US, and my experience tells me socialized medicine, with all its faults, is the best alternative.
I was uninsured when I graduated college during a recession and worked two part time jobs with no medical benefits. I was just getting by, and just ignored any ailments and thank my lucky stars that I wasn’t in a serious accident or anything during that time.
Then I spent several years in Japan in their national health care system, and, while not perfect, it certainly made life easy. In practice it was no different than having an insurer except it was so much easier from a paperwork standpoint. I paid my monthly medical tax (which was lower than my current insurance payment deducted from my paycheck) and a 10-30% deductible for any treatment I received. The deductible prevents people from abusing the system, yet is manageable for most treatments. Prescriptions were covered as well. I didn’t need to determine if the care provider was registered with my insurer, there were no $100 aspirin tablets during hospital stays, no 100 page policy that requires a law degree to understand, no arguing with my insurer to be reimbursed. In fact there was no reimbursment process. I just gave the facility my healthcare card and they took care of the rest. In most cases I didn’t even need an appointment, and care was quick and efficient. I could choose the specialist I wanted when I wanted. The system even covered dental care. Okay, so I had to pay for my glasses!
Now I have what is considered to be very good BCBS coverage with my current employer but it is still a relative pain in the posterior. I have to wait weeks for an appointment, I can’t go to a specialist without going to my regular doctor first (I don’t even have a regular doctor!), and the copay arrangement is very complicated even if it is pretty generous.
Americans think that if they are lucky enough to be insured their health care is superior to other countries, and those who are uninsured are just not “motivated” enough. That’s a bunch of crap. Our insurance premiums and copays are through the roof to cover the uninsured emergency room patients that cannot be legally or ethically turned away, and hospitals gouge insurance companies for the same reason. The treatment, once you have jumped through all the hoops to get it, is admittedly of a very high quality. But not enough people can get through the hoops, and even for those like me who finally do, it’s extremely frustrating. Doesn’t anyone think there may be a reason why the rest of the industrialized world has some form of socialized medicine, and they just stare at us in amazement? Doesn’t anyone wonder why, with supposedly the most sophisticated healthcare in the world, our infant mortality rates and life expectancy is only mediocre, and far less than many countries with socialized medicine?
Call me a bleeding heart white person if you must, but Americans need to take their blinders off. Why is it that American consumers put price and quality above country of origin when buying consumer products, yet somehow think our healthcare system and other institutions are somehow so inherently superior as to be beyond even comparison with similar institutions in other countries??
I promised myself I wouldn’t respond to this hot potato item #94, but damn it temptation got the best of me.
wp most definitely do not love stale and cloying.
As a white person, I would like to thank you for using “expounded” instead of “expanded”.
This is one white person who believe that instead of awards for movies and music, there should be awards for proper spelling and appropriate usage of the language.
Shamed, you would win.
I agree. I am white and I’d love some free drugs. I mean, medicine.
That’s a good idea.
You are assuming, of course, that I have always had insurance, and I did not for the majority of my 20s.
It is a really good thing that all of those influential people in washington reading this now, who can instantaneously make universal healthcare appear out of thin air are not swayed by my juvenile comments about such a serious issue.
I mistook this for a joke.
I guess white people do not like jokes,
Oh sorry I am white, damn, time to stop dancing, laughing, and making light of “serious issues” like coinjoined twin myslexia.
****White People love to talk about issues they do nothing about
also, monica opened her mouth and clinton…
What exactly does it mean to “jump the shark”?
Is that some obsure reference to aquatic pornography?
Mmmmm…bacony bailouts with happyjack cheese!
Okay you guys, I’ve gotten sucked into this conversation. Hasn’t anyone heard about where we supposedly get most of our meds anyway? In China where the FDA has no control over them…
Plus, wouldn’t you rather have a watchdog group over big pharm instead of hoping you won’t OD on whatever they put in the meds like back in the day with snake oil sales men???
Anyway, I’m being too serious for this blog, but it’s fun to debate, ay?
🙂
Oooh. I like you.
Oh please! We all know that it’s the blacks that love free health care, and welfare. In fact, if you look into Europe, White Nationalist parties are gaining ground, and will soon privatize the whole mess!
All of you keep using the word free, either I don’t know what Free means, or you don’t.
To me, free means I don’t ever pay for the use of an item.
socialized med on the other hand means that everyone pays for the health care regardless of their personal need of the system.
It sounds a bit like “from each according to their productivity, to all according to their need”
Sorry, this cracker isn’t up for paying for the lazy artist types.
With todays I want therefore must have immediately culture, I don’t see how having to wait for anything like medical attention will go over with all you white people, this white person will be the angry sob yelling at the nurse to get off her government paid ass and do something useful.
next time you go to the DMV, just think, this could be the hospital of tomorrow.
Don’t forget ROFLstomping!
Good thing I swallowed my grape juice before reading this.
White people like white russians?
I actually think universal health care and public education are good things.
Who doesn’t?
Oh, I see. It would be better to have an ignorant unhealthy population than an educated healthy one.
Now I understand.
I jumped a shark once, not a good idea, and I had no universal healthcare to reattach my severed leg.
Move, please.
Hello, overpriced education and expensive healthcare are tools of economic oppression
And we all know how white people love economic oppression
The shark. She has been jumped.
wp love to lecture people on how to respond to blog posts.
And because we don’t spend 1.5 billion a week in Iraq we can have health care , Thanks for policing the world for us
wp love it when the opportunity arises to direct someone to http://www.justfuckingoogleit.com
White people don’t love satire.
oh! and LMAOade!
mmmm…lmaoade
nom nom nom
aw yeah! happyjack cheese is da shizzle!
If only some of them knew who he was.
I would rather be free and ignorant than educated and enslaved.
Taxation is the enslaver, the oppressor, and the tool of those who see fit to tell others how to live.
Taxed healthcare is the most expensive healthcare available, because the healthy who never use it still pay for its use by those who are always sick.
Just because it is taken out of your paycheck by your parents, I mean, the government doesn’t mean you don’t still pay.
What do you say McCain?
You really should have done more harm to yourself?
Yep, Europe is just one, big Wunder Land. Especially France. What a love nest that is. Katana, have you even seen a television in the past year or two? I don’t think so. I think your face is so drenched from bukkake that you’ve lost sight of the real world.
BTW, when was the last time an American journalist caused world wide rioting and received death threats due to a simple cartoon? Can we say, never? Whole countries were on lockdown and writers had to go into hiding because of the work of wonderful euro trash writers. There’s your peace for you.
You’re absolutely right, Americans are hated around the world. This is why every poor bastard on the planet wants to come here at any cost.
Hey, next time, try taking your head out of your ass before offering up your opinion.
Schmuck.
White people love pulling up the ladder after they get theirs.
I always wanted to ask one of these weenies if they are impressed that Cuba’s free health care resticts Afro-Cubans since Cuba is an aparthied state.
Looks like some feathers have been rustled. “You can make fun of my love of all things white, but don’t make fun of Hillary/Obamacare!!” Sometimes good parody hits a little too close to home.
Hattie, take an ecomonics class. There is no such thing as free.
Or as some say, you think heathcare is expensive now, wait until it is “free”.
White people love vile crackers pretending to be twits.
Developed or Manufactured in China? — big difference.
All your gay black freinds will love it.
Yes, indeed, Europe is the fountain of love. Your name sounds Asian. Are you Asian? Are you a dainty Asian fleur? How about you and I sharing a side chat? You can share the beauty of your Asian culture while I show you how the French earned their reputation as great lovers. Maybe I can pummel your dark, brown eye with my tige royale. You see, I am no racist, I love every little brown eye I cum across. The younger, the better. We have no hang ups about man-boy love here in the EU like they do in the usa. So send me a pic–or a pic of your little brother–so I can see your yellow beauty for myself 😉
I knew it. I love Ayn Rand, guess I’am white afte all .
dbum- seriously, thats your best?
a house slave is still a slave. do you really think it is the responsibility of other people to take care of you?
do you think the state is a great entity of its own creation of which it does nothing but benefit you? do you not see the state is a representation of the parts that make it up, not the other way around?
“everyone tries to live at the expense of the state, what they forget is that the state tries to live at the expense of everyone else”
Socialization is the moniker of modern day classism and class oppression, when you have no ability to do for your self how can you be anything but enslaved?
I have read this one all over this blog get another line. And a sense of humor.
good one
This is designed to allow all us Brits to laugh at you because no matter how shit the NHS is, it’s better than most of your population not being able to afford healthcare, right?
Why would non-whites not want health care? Sorry, confused.
Wow, this irony is so deep, it’s even confused a white Yurpean.
Oh, I get it – it’s irony that’s so ironic, it’s verging on racism. Brilliant!
White people believe the free market cures all economic ills.
i go to a prep school with more white people than i have ever seen before in my life, and here are some of the things i learned.
white people LOVE lacrosse (sp?), they murdered the natives, but kept the sport…
they also like feild hockey and are pro-gay rights even tho most dont kno wat lgbt stands for.
they like india too. but they think hindu is a language. hahaha.
they like country clubs and golf.
AND GOING TANNING! ironic considering whites rationalized colonialism with the notion that dark skin= inferiority.
white people make me laugh.
I’ doing it right now
how vindictive
Are you serious? Why would you be stoked about someone else’s book deals? Are you two friends or something? I hope not, because you just told him he’s not funny anymore at the same time he has some sort of book deal going. Way to wish your fellow human well.
What do you mean “deflate the dialog”? This is a crappy little blog where people come to ramble and poke fun at things. Nothing here is of any significance whatsoever. The only thing deflated is your mental capacity.
If you’re serious about doing crack, remember this is the kind of nonsense that will continue coming from your brain. You may want to re-think the whole drug use thing in favor of joining the rest of us here on planet earth.
Just a thought.
When health care is “free” it becomes no good, just look at the Canadian system lol.
it at least gives a fighting chance
Exactly.
It annoys me that the American people are being blindsided by Health Care Companies in the US who like to draw attention to the number of people who die waiting for service. AT LEAST THEY HAD A CHANCE for getting surgery. More people in the US are dying and losing quailty of life as a result of NOT having access to affordable health care.
I don’t understand how people can let insurance companies make YOUR health a commodity, when it should be a right.
This is such a bad post.
most of these posts arent really about ‘white people’, they are more about white liberals in big cities like NY, SanFran, etc
white people from Texas or Wisconsin or rural areas are completely different, so this blog is really about white inner city liberals
I’m sure you’ve heard this:
“It takes a lot of money to look this cheap” -Dolly Parton (sort of a wrong-kind-of-white-person twist to what you’re talking about -haha!)
This post was stupid, I like to laugh when I come to this site, not sit there and read for nothing. Not at all funny
yeah, this posting was pretty lame…this one’s more interesting…
http://thedillydaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=651&Itemid=29
Your capitalization/punctuation makes me laugh. Perhaps you’re at the wrong prep school.
Gave her a cigar?
find out why your gay friends are cooler than you:
Stuff Queer People Like
http://stuffqueerpeoplelike.wordpress.com
You, like I, are considered the wrong kind of white. But it does not change the fact that this blog is spot on.
pre·ten·tious (prĭ-těn’shəs)
adj.
1. Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
2. Making or marked by an extravagant outward show; ostentatious. See Synonyms at showy.
I must not be white then, even tho I am classified as as “white” nothing on the “white likes” list is anything I like. I Like baseball, fried chicken, and dancing, as far as free health care, who would Not like free healthcare, but at the exspense of waiting months for an appt. no way, so I pay for my healthcare, and at a price I really cant afford. When the healthcare becomes free, or reduced and I dont have to wait in line for an operation I needed yesterday, maybe I will join the “white” race and like it. Until then, don’t clump us all in the same clot.
I’m stealing this line whenever my hippie friends give me b.s. about this topic. Thank you.
Something tells me if the red phone rang at 3am he’d either have a heart attack from the stress, or throw a pillow at it.
this blog is hilarious. check out this one too:
http://whiteboardblog.wordpress.com/
Ya…. We get it. You’re white.
Puh-leaze
“free” healthcare would cost multiple trillions of dollars, a paltry billion and a half wouldn’t even cover a single hypochondriac’s aspirin budget once the federal bureaucracy got done papering it to death.
Imaginary, eh? Okay, try this: from 21 until 24, I had no health insurance.
wow!
http://whiteboardblog.wordpress.com/
White people like taking shit for granted. Co-opting causes, loving art and stuff that people had to struggle for – they just hoover this shit up like products and this includes the argument for socialized medicine!
Tres European: the mark of a nation’s sophistication is how well it takes care of it’s worst off.
clander, I think you needed to spell it out again as “the idea of free healthcare” for those that don’t quite get it.
Ich bin aber sehr dankbar dass wir kein Deutsch reden muessen!
Jealous about what? Getting the first comment on an internet blog? You must lead an interesting life if that gives you kicks….
i write like that.
yeah matt lienart is hot
no, no cigar, but she did do some smokin.
WUT ninja!?!? ooooWEEeeee…
Now there’s no reason he can’t come here to read about the self abusive upper class liberal whites, he’s gotta keep an eye on them somehow.
superior to what? stone knives and ointments made from berries?
People are dying in the U.S. before they can receive treatment. Tell me how great that is.
I think you meant to reply to the “Che” post above.
Only if it’s a macrobiotically grown whole foods organic vegan shark.
i don’t buy that for a second. not one second. moreover,
although people are always gonna be sick, it seems, the us is always gonna be fightin’.
which falls p.c.ly under WKOWP.
church.
I gotta admit, it might be more a problem of the Russian diet of Vodka and pickles rather than a problem with their health care.
oh it is RAMPANT in seattle…every white person has one.
and have their hair in dreads…and i’m like, that’s JAMAICA, not CUBA!!!
You missed my wink. WP also love emoticons
If only…
Actually if you aren’t a Canadian citizen and you get hurt there they will expect you to pay before you get treated. I broke my arm in Canada on vacation and their “great” health system wouldn’t cover me because I wasn’t Canadian
I beg to differ. None of the entries are worthwhile–even this one I am writing. It’s all worthless nonsense, mental masturbation. It’s just a step above smashing our head into our desk as we work. Now, if someone is making some money off all l this BS, then, to that person every entry is worthwhile. For the rest of us it’s just passing the time. Go ahead and tell me that I speak only for myself, but if you think there’s some grand social experiment or something going on here you’re fooling yourself.
Also, the word kudos has to be one of my top ten idiot words. Schmucks use the word. Regular people say “Good for you!” or “Great going!” Scumbags who sit on cucumbers say “Kudos!”
Who the hell wants to be mentioned in comics? God, are people so desperate for their 15 minutes that seeing their name or something they’ve done mentioned in comics is cause for jubilation? Wow, what a race of needy beings we are. Let me see my name on big, fat checks–and not in the public eye–that’s the ticket. Public acknowledgement is for the birds, it gives rise to all sorts of sycophants trying to gleen some gold dust of the skin of the successful.
See what I mean. This entry is just a little BS to pass the time. Nothing more. I feel see so sad 😦
But if you’re already taxed into poverty by the socialized medicine, then you can’t afford to go to the private clinic, right? and I’ll bet most people don’t carry their own insurance for that reason and the fact that until you get hurt, it doesn’t matter, and you think you’re covered.
And David Boren’s got all the male ones on his payroll.
I thought white people preferred unconventional New Age cures like hypno-puncture, shaman rituals, herbal remedies, and recooperating in a condo in Sedona over prescription drugs?
How does that fit in to this socialized medicine quest?
Come on, have you ever even tried to read an insurance form? my eyes are watering just thinking about it.
Damn straight! Pull up the ladder and toss a grenade back down. What’s mine is mine. What’s you’re point?
Your point
What’s your point? Dickweed.
Yep. As a physician I can relate! If I had access to “free health care” then I would definately give up my current ridiculous hours and do a little locums work for guvmint to keep my hand in, together with part time high school science teaching. I’d make most of my salary, reduce my risk, and I’d triple my free time.
Every non-surgical physician I know is considering going part time once we don’t have to worry about health benefits.
Bring it on! I just wonder who will be dishing out all that great free health care. But after all, I’m healthy and can afford to wait in line.
Only the weirdos even give crap about the things being said here. Go ahead and tromp all over my most sacred, cherished things. What do I care? Who the hell are you anyway? Nobody. That’s who.
Church is for lemmings.
I would if it meant I could be part of the new 90210 series.
LMAO! Frickin’ whites.
Are you my husband?
Good thing you already signed the book deal, because you’re getting less funny and more antagonistic by the day.
Huh?
Too off topic, too serious. Relax and enjoy.
Hmm, this one’s not so funny for the millions of people who are ineligible for health insurance whether they have a full time job or not. Not all employers offer health plans, you know. SWPL thinks that only some people deserve health care, evidently. AND is against entrepreneurialism, too.
Canadians also pay before they get treated. It’s called income taxes.
Sorry dude, it is a hippy left wing idea. Making others pay for your problems is definitely leftist.
Work on the sentence
“It is NOT charity to take money forcibly from a person you don’t know and give it to another person you don’t know”
Yeah, not so much…
It’s more than a teaspoon but not as much as “lots”
Tweny-one through 24 are not several years. They are, at most, a few years.
That was his point.
“Early twenties” does not have several years with which to play.
stuff white people like: saying things like jump the shark
ohhh y’all just keep giving the man MORE MATERIAL LOL!!!
You haven’t looked carefully at the results of public education or socialized medicine, have you?
is that nasty stock photography supposed to be cheesy-ironic? or are you getting lazy?
All apologies if that cute little redhead bebe is a family member….
On the other hand, it doesn’t seem to have occurred to anyone (including me) that since clander is the model white person for most of these posts, he might not be so opposed to “free” health care after all. Check his wife’s Flickr account and you’ll see pictures of kitchen gadgets, ironic t-shirts, recycling, a Prius, travels abroad, and more.
Which is exactly what clander might be doing himself these days.
On the other hand, it doesn’t seem to have occurred to anyone (including me) that since clander is the model white person for most of these posts, he might not be so opposed to “free” health care after all. Check his wife’s Flickr account and you’ll see pictures of kitchen gadgets, ironic t-shirts, recycling, a Prius, travels abroad, and more.
Which is exactly what clander might be doing himself these days.
On the other hand, it doesn’t seem to have occurred to anyone (including me) that since clander is the model white person for most of these posts, he might not be so opposed to “free” health care after all. Check his wife’s Flickr account and you’ll see pictures of kitchen gadgets, ironic t-shirts, recycling, a Prius, travels abroad, and more.
Which is exactly what clander might be doing himself these days.
yup, and I don’t care either. My mortgage and income tax are almost the same. I’d say living in a nice condo and a nice country are all part of the same deal.
Speaking for myself, I know how you feel. I suspect many others have shared your experience. When posting is no longer fun, the right thing to do is stop.
Now your shamanic yogi hypno-proctologist will be state funded. Or, if not, you can go see him while waiting two years on your state funded cancer treatments.
Another great entry. And of course, it exposes the true motives of White People perfectly.
The article should have mentioned that nowhere, even in Europe or Canada (White People, please genuflect to the mere mention of those words in the same sentence) is health care free!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nowhere!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whenever a Canadian tells you they have free health care, threaten to report them to the Canadian tax authorities. That will shut them up. They might even stop purposely stressing the ‘eh’s in their sentences (which they always do in front of Americans), or stop pronouncing ‘ou’ words like they do, just from the humilition alone!!!!!
And the takedown of White People is hilarious when it comes to the public schools. They love the idea of them, like they love the idea of soccer. But they don’t send their own kids to them. It’s either a chi chi private school, or they surrender to the Wrong Kind of White People and move the suburbs.
This entry is in the top 5 best for sure.
Yup and I don’t care. My income taxes and my mortgage are almost the same. I think living in a nice condo and a nice country are part of the same deal.
or pay a lobbyist to answer it for him. zing!
oops sorry, bad cache and I guess I really feel strongly about this.
Bad clander for bringing up serious topic!
well that’s racist. well done on totally missing the point of this blog you school child.
Your post is too long to read. You must be a real bore.
too many white russians?
I believe that.
http://stuffhowardpeoplelike.wordpress.com/
hahahahahahaha get it? WHITE Russians?? HAHAHAHA.
No I’m just kidding sorry.
http://boozeandlies.blogspot.com
Why would i be stoked about somebody else’s book deal? because I am pleased when people who I admire do well for themselves! Because I’m not a mean-spirited dickwad like you and am capable of mustering enthusiasm for someone else’s good fortune even though it does not benefit me directly. Imagine that.
Medicare and medicaid cost $556 BILLION in 2007. That’s much more than the ~130 billion dollars a year that the Iraq war costs. Yes, I agree that we spend too much on defense, but socialized health care would absolutely cost ungodly sums of money that would make the DoD budget start to look very small. Easily measure in trillions. EASILY. The government took in about 2.7 trillion dollars in taxes last year. Are you ready to double what you pay in taxes? You’d be better off just paying for it straight up, then at least you can choose what you pay for.
At least Monica has more experience in the Oval Office than Hillary.
Poor Americans die early because they spend their food stamps on junk, and use the change at Buger King.
Am I blaming them? You bet I am.
They’re disgustingly fat, and their sight makes me sick.
I demand free healthcare to take of my seeing poor, fat Americans.
Sharks thoroughly enjoy chomping white people. Chomp, chomp, chomp..No, Mr. shark, it hurts..it hurts..
No, not enough.
She said that she’s very glad we don’t have to speak any German.
Too true! Hahaha.
Oy just gevalted the shark.
If you want to be sarcastic, John, say, “That’s a good idea, asshole.”
Reading some of the nasty comments people write made me want to post one of my favorite phrases from a book. So I am going to. And hope it helps everyone take a deep breath, lighten up and enjoy this clever, often hysterically funny, blog. I, for one, am happy to finally have a “culture.” I like laughing, especially at myself. And also, I wanted to say that white people love Tom Petty but yelling that at the local irish pub after the guitarist announces he is about to play some Tom Petty will earn you some very hard looks…take it from one who knows.
“We, the public, are easily, lethally offended. We have come to think of taking offense as a fundamental right. We value very little more highly than our rage, which gives us, in our opinion, the moral high ground. From this high ground we can shoot down at our enemies and inflict heavy fatalities. We take pride in our short fuses. Our anger elevates, transcends.”
~excerpted from ‘East, West’ by Salman Rushdie
Happy Friday!
And also, white people love quotes 😛
You know, I want free healthcare, and I’d rather wait for an MRI than rely on a profit-driven insurance company to tell me whether it’s medically nessecary or not.
And I’m in favor of Free Healthcare when I haven’t had a physical in five years, my joints hurt, and I can’t afford to drop 1/5th to 1/3rd of my paycheck on a doctor visit because I’m uninsured, and if they find anything wrong I can’t afford to treat it, and it becomes a “pre-existing condition” which prevents it from being covered if and when I do get insured.
Some days I’m not sure if I’m the right kind of White people or not.
White people must love typos or they wouldn’t talk about them so much.
notwhite, white people make me laugh too. That’s why I read this blog.
http://athenasmom.wordpress.com/
Why are white people always so angry? I’m black, I thought I was supposed to be the angry one? Oh, yeah and I thought I was the one who wanted everything for free. Or is that only the ignorance of southern whites or those who live in New Jersey and Rhode Island.
Michelle, that comment is sooooo late February early March. Please tie all future comments about McCain to the theme from Rocky.
http://athenasmom.wordpress.com/
Oy, you are too educated by half. Utilizing the word “Using” instead of ‘”utilizing” more keys on the keyboard’ would have been way more utilitarian.
I dunno, as someone who has sat through propaganda documentaries done by people other than Moore, I have a great appreciate for Moore’s craftsmanship as a filmmaker.
http://athenasmom.wordpress.com/
This website is pretty stupid. The attempt to stereotype white people is way too far off. I read a decent amount and didn’t laugh or find any of it to be very close to the truth. I have nothing against stereotypes in general, but if you’re going to point them out they should at least be funny
stuffallpeoplelike.com—
#45 Being a Part of a Moral Dilemma
Michael Moore is an outspoken jerk who loves what he does for a living. He’d do it for free even if they didn’t pay him.
White people like to define words to make a statement.
Check your dictionary. Several means “more than 2, but not many.”
White people love being dick-weeds.
Jesus, you people are stupid. Get your head out of your ass, happyjack.
Wow! Did you write this yourself. Sounds like it. Seriously, I appreciate your thoughtful imagination.
You’re right, Holden. Much better that our physical well-being is decided by profit-driven insurance companies intent on nickel and diming human lives as much as possible.
Does anyone know what a chemo-machine is?
The Fox News talking head in SICKO claimed that Toronto only had one chemo-machine. He made it sound like it was a very bad thing for a city of Toronto’s size to have only one of these.
But I don’t know what a chemo-machine is. Is a chemo-machine necessary in the administration of healthcare? Is a chemo-machine as necessary as an MRI machine? Or is it as useful to contemporary doctors as a phrenology skull? Because if the latter is the case, then I don’t think it’s going to be an issue if Toronto has just one.
http://athenasmom.wordpress.com/
1. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.
2. I love HMOs, because then I stay really busy repairing what they have ‘fixed.’
3. My Doctor. My choice.
4. I pooped my pants.
Yeah that’s right! The adjective endings in German are a real bitch, not to mention figuring out prepositional cases. Be grateful the Allied Forces prevailed, if for no other reason than not having to deal with German grammar!
White people like to point out that at one time they were without insurance. It makes the free nationalized socialized medicine argument that much stronger.
On that last bit, you are exactly right! Everyone wants socialized medicine, when they don’t need it. But let one of them get sick, and by GOD get the FUCK out of my PRIVATE hospital. Dead on about the public school comment, too. We can be pretentious bastards sometimes.
I hate your comments Jose. They are all useless and angry. Go get laid.
Universal healthcare? This is getting idiotic.
Holy frickin’ crap! Get a sense of humor!
Don’t you mean ORAL office?
Health care, for those older than 30, isn’t all that comical of an issue. Especially for the tens of millions of people who may not like their job, and for the millions who have been really SCREWED by the health care system. In a big way. Not loss of money, but relatives, parents, children.
I like this site a lot, but this post was a moral dud.
Yeah, this site can be very entertaining, but that post smacked of ignorance inconsistent with the wit and insight of earlier fare. A conspiracy theorist would suggest that the book deal was payola for spouting the nonsense talking points of American political conservatives. Of course, a much less ridiculous explanation is that this Gingrich-esque twaddle was always lurking under the surface, and became exposed with a newfound burst of confidence (or a degree of business that prevented work on something more consistent with good stuff from the past here.)
In any case, what makes this particularly odd is that white people are pretty well split on this issue. I suspect most Americans in one or another ethnic minority would support socialized medicine. This is not so much a judgement of economic context as it is an acknowledgement that negative sentiments about socialized medicine are propagated chiefly by misinformation media that panders to the sense of hardship a certain subset of white male Americans have convinced themselves they endure.
If anything, white people like being told that white people are getting the shaft by liberal politics and policies. Admittedly, this blog has focused less on NASCAR dads and more on wine country jetsetters, and as such it does lampoon that subset of white people favorably disposed toward socialized medicine. Still, pandering to the hysteria of rationing is irresponsible on two levels (because the phenomena is largely mythical and because if it becomes a much more popular myth then American reformers simply accept it when the time comes to change paradigms here.)
I get that the white rage stoked by irresponsible cretins like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly is off the mark for a project like this. In fact, I could even see a good post or two here poking fun at the excesses of calls for social justice by the most progressive of politically active white Americans. Arguing that sick and injured Americans should not have to pass a financial litmus test to receive effective medical care is hardly call for excess. Perhaps the moral of this story is that the comedy value of a post here is easily spoiled by a failure to filter out dittohead ideology from comic allusions to a deeper underlying reality.
Now we need a stuffrepublicanslike blog to counter this one
But how can you not like socialized medicine, in the face of the pharmaceutical companies?
Hilarious.
Whoops! I guess white people like to be occasionally obtuse 🙂
Ditto! Loved the comment about white people liking free health care when they’re healthy. When they have to wait on line for it (which they’ll hate, since white people like convenience) they’ll change their tune fast.
I think the UK has that in private hospitals. The white people will flock to private hospitals like private schools.
This is a blog is for comedy purposes… settle down. So many act like this guy is the white Al Sharpton.
keep ’em comin. the conspiracy theorists need to lay off the therapeutic narcotics. the brand of white people, perfectly profiled here, are flipping ridiculous. SWPL calls ’em point blank. folks just have no stomach for un-spun satire any longer.
And the best part is that someone is making money off the Che shirts…One point Capitalism.
Oh goodness, you must be running out of ideas. Free health is a negro ideal – not white. In fact free everything. Gib me gib me. Gib me free food (food stamps) gib me free money (welfare) gib me free __ Fill in the blank and that is stuff negroes like.
its the internet. get over it. 🙂
Jane, like most supporters of socialized health care, you examine the issue in terms of emotion and apparently disdain any profit motive in health care. (Profit! Horrors!) You wear a mantle of decency as if you have a monopoly on the subject.
RARELY does anyone examine socialized health care in terms of basic economics and basic human behavior.
When a service is viewed as “free,” more of it will be consumed. Period. When the demand for a service (i.e., health care) rises, and the supply of nurses and doctors remains the same, the only way to determine who gets which services is by rationing. People are placed on waiting lists for the most basic services. And God help you if you need emergency surgery.
Countries which have socialized health care do not have any “advantage.” Some pregnant women in Canada have had to be FLOWN to other provinces because hospital beds weren’t available in their area! The AVERAGE wait for SURGERY is 4.5 months (18-20 weeks). The hospitals in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan serve many people from Ontario regularly. Before you gloss over this fact, consider WHY that would be.
And let’s not forget the ridiculously high tax rates imposed on Canadians and the British to essentially pay for the health care of others. It is a major injustice that I must pay for services which other people consume.
When others are paying the bill, there is less incentive to remain healthy, less incentive to save money, and more incentive to use up a limited supply of services from a limited supply of health care professionals.
“freehealthcare” wrote:
“More people in the US are dying and losing quailty of life as a result of NOT having access to affordable health care.”
LOL? HUH? Totally wrong. “Most” people in the US are NOT dying and NOT losing “quality of life.” The US has the best health care on earth. If anything, people live longer and better lives because of American healthcare.
You’re seriously uninformed.
Ok I’ll make this simple for the government educated.
Government (socialized) Health Care is not “free.” Not unless doctors, nurses, surgeons, x-ray technicians, lab techs, and janitors decide to work for free. Oh, and also electricity, water, food, heat, air conditioning, drugs, beds, pillows, gowns, etc would also need to immediately become free products. You probably haven’t thought of that because you passed on taking Economics for a class on “Islamic studies” or something. If so, you should be commended for making such a wise decision.
Why would they need to become free? Because in order for Health Care to be “free” these products would have to become free.
Now, a question for the idiots that haven’t already understood my point.
Who pays for socialized medicine? Well, retard since money doesn’t grow on trees, the American taxpayer does. If you are still on board this is probably because you don’t pay much in taxes. This is because you are either:
1) lazy (dropped out of high school, collecting welfare, foodstamps, etc.)
2) stupid (got that degree in Art History)
3) young enough to where you haven’t make a big enough paycheck to feel the effects of subsidizing the lazy and stupid.
Still don’t get it? That means you either still currently being “educated” by our government, or your a complete dumba*s.
By the time our government attaches a cost to our “free healthcare”, you will be astounded at its actual cost. You will then be the moron that says “Barack Obama/Hildabeast said this would be free!”
If this is you, you truly are a special kind of idiot.
Congratulations.
As P.T. Barnum said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”
See, I’d rather have my work pay for my health insurance. Of course that means I graduated high school, went to college, tried hard, and didn’t waste the opportunities our country has allowed for me. It also means I didn’t go to an out-of-state school, accumulate $100,000 worth of student loans and then take a job with a not-for-proft. Failing that, I’d rather pay for my own. That way, I can at least choose my coverage. See, I’m self-reliant. I’m not lazy and I don’t want the government to be my mommy.
If you want “free” health care, go to Canada you lazy candy-asses.
I’m clearly the wrong kind of white person.
“Seb Patrick” wrote:
“Ahh, the classic fallacy of socialised medicine. Here’s the thing – in the UK, there’s plenty of private healthcare for those who want/can afford it, AND the National Health Service for those who don’t/can’t.
Why are almost all the arguments against it based around the supposition that it’s an either/or scenario?”
Because government run health care cannot be worth a damn if average people, already getting fleeced with high tax rates, voluntarily go to private health care and pay for it out of their own pocket. Their own actions confirm that socialized medicine is an economic and social train wreck.
Actually it’s a well-known fact that Cubans enjoy a very high standard of health care. They have some of the lowest mortality rates in the world (lower than the US!), mainly due to the fact that health care is free, and easily available.
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Ummmmm, waiting in line for an MRI (or hip replacement, etc.) is what happens in countries with socialized medicine. Since we have, generally, privatized medicine in the US, we have minimal waits for anything and everything.
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You must live in an alternate universe where American Hospitals aren’t a government enforced cartel. Our current presidential candidate, Obama, made his bones in Chicago working for the Hospital PACs. His wife is employed by a PAC… I mean Hospital… for the purpose of incurring his favor.
My grandfather had to wait many weeks for his “good doctors” “good friend” to be able to schedule him for some tests. This was while he was dying of lung cancer.
I personally had to wait five hours to recieve eight stiches. Furthermore, I failed to see the ‘illegal immigrants’ in the waiting room that ‘pushed up prices’ and forced the hospital to charge 2000+ dollars for this ‘service’ that I will do myself in the future, thank you very much. I’m sure the lack of a five hour wait will also reduce the scarring. But hey, medical care better than you could do ON YOURSELF is a little much to ask, ain’t it boy? Ain’t it? Come on boy! Mouth off!
The best way is to tell me what’s I gonna do without Penicillin, and the doctor only one gots thats, it’s the law! The doctors gots the medicine, and you gonna pay him if you wants to live!
Woof it boy! Woof it!
My oh my, in one shot Christian seems to have turned his site into a sh*t-throwing right-winger love-in.
I’m not saying that public health care doesn’t have its issues. I’m not going to even get into that debate. What is remarkable is that Christian, with everything he has (had?) going for him, has possibly wrecked it all in one fell swoop.
All the hardcore right-wingers have already jumped on this post like gnats. Next then they’ll be doing is telling all their friends (on-line and off, though the real right-wing nuts seems to mostly have on-line friends) about this great site that makes fun of loony hippy lefties.
You see what I’m saying here? The atmosphere of this site has turned completely upside-down. Before this, he was attracting the very large, affluent liberal white audience that he was skewering…witness all the press coverage he has received in the very newspapers such people read (Washington Post, Toronto Globe and Mail, etc.) But to get into politics? Now this is just another political blog, to go along with all the rest. That story was fresh in 2002, but not no more. You’ve blown your 15 minutes, Christian, I’m sorry to say.
O.K. folks, I am a Doc. Here is the doctor’s lounge take on it.
Most Docs hate it when it snows. This is because they are afraid everyone will be stuck at home, and unable to get to the doctor because they are snowed in. Then they might realize they don’t need us.
When the snow melts, the patients return, and everyone breathes a sigh of relief. After a quarter century at this, I am still trying to figure it out.
Dr. Tom Bibey
drtombibey.wordpress.com
I can’t imagine waiting a little longer for an MRI. I think 50 million Americans should lack health insurance, if that would help avoid such a doomsday scenario.
Well, damn. I’m against public schooling. I guess I need to turn in my white-person card now.
“The white elephant of that story is that anyone can receive medical care in the U.S., whether insured or not.”
Actually, you are only legally entitled to emergency medical care. You can be refused non-emergency medical care. And removing tumors and such things are non-emergencies.
And even though you are entitled to receive emergency care, the hospital is also legally entitled to take you to court to pay for it.
And the largest pharmaceutical countries are based in Europe where they have socialized medicine.
Yes, Potshot. Clearly Christian has “wrecked it all in one fell swoop.” He has alienated his affluent (chuckle) liberal audience. Without this affluent liberal audience he is sure to fail, as nobody that isn’t liberal is:
1) affluent
2) capable of reading
3) on Al Gore’s internet
With over 460 comments in less than 24 hours, you are sure to be proved correct.
Surely nobody will hitch their wagon to this now, the web traffic just isn’t large enough to attract attention.
Man, you liberals are just too adorable with your complete disconnect from reality. I’ll go to sleep happy your ilk is bound to continue providing this endless entertainment.
Jesus was not Black. He also was not a “Jew”.
well, that tells me he’s a sensible man.
March 30 2008
London Times
“Health service dentists have been forced to go on holiday or spend time on the golf course this month despite millions of patients being denied dental care.
Many have fulfilled their annual work quotas allotted by the National Health Service and have been turning patients away because they are not paid to do extra work. This is despite the fact that more than 7m people in Britain are unable to find an NHS dentist.
Patients have been told they must either pay privately or return in April when the new work year begins. People suffering from toothache have been advised to go to hospital.”
2-17-08 (Don Surber)
“British hospitals are making patients wait in their ambulances for an hour or more until they can be brought in for treatment, reported that other Daily Mail in London.
Hospitals do this to avoid breaking a political pledge to treat people brought by ambulance within 4 hours of their entry into the hospital.
4 hours?
They set the bar that low and still cannot meet that.
All for politics.
“Figures obtained by the Liberal Democrats show that last year 43,576 patients waited longer than one hour before being let into emergency units,” reported the London Daily Mail.”
Indeed, not all White people are socialists! This is offensive! You know, up in Canada, where the writer of this blog lives, racial stereotyping is AGAINST THE LAW.
This anti-White, Jewish racist is spreading lies and mistruths about White people. That’s right, the author is Jewish and thinks he’s White too. What a schmuck!
Have you ever read the Jewish Talmud? It’s what the Jews base their religion off of, and it’s not the Bible. You should see what the racist Jewish religion has to say about White people and then ask yourself “WTF is this racist Jew doing, writing about White people in such a blanketed way?”
As a White man, I would be fined and jailed for having a blog about “stuff jewish people like” which showcased Jewish stereotypes such as their dominance in the media, television, music industry, international banking, Zionist fascist lobby groups APIAC etc.
This blog is hypocritical and anti-White, period.
Wake the fuck up, White people. It’s YOUR heritage and culture that is being mocked and turned into a joke.
Some some of these posts here really shake up some white people. It is funny to me that they don’t know the whole thing is about them!?!?!
http://www.imagineannie.wordpress.com
Why should health care be a right?
Is food a right?
Is shelter a right?
Is water a right?
Is transportation a right?
Is education a right?
Is a job a right?
When you make something a right, you authorize yourself to dip into my pocket to get it for yourself.
2-1-08 (Don Surber)
Socialized Medicine “keeping costs down”
“Simply do not provide the health services promised.
Today’s example of why government-run health care is a bad idea does not come from Canada, where mothers have to fly 325 miles to Montana to give birth to quadruplets.
Nor does it come from England, where a mother gave birth at home after being turned away by 2 hospitals that were trying to save money.
Today’s example comes from Scotland where officials found a way to instantly pare down waiting lists for health services: Turn people down.
Nicola Sturgeon, health secretary, announced that at long last, Scotland has solved its problem of long waiting lists for health services. No one is waiting more than 18 weeks for services, she said.
That’s five months.
Real speedy there.
The day after her announcement, Nicol Stephen, the leader of the opposition party, announced that he discovered how this was done: People were being kicked off the list. He cited a woman who had been promised liposuction, but later received notice that she was being turned down for services.
Apparently she received a letter from her doctor that said:
“I am afraid I am writing to inform you of some bad news.
“I have been instructed by hospital management to remove your name from my waiting list. The prime reason for this decision relates to the 18-week target for patient treatment which is now in enforcement.
“I currently have a significant number of patients in breach of this and the simple solution by management is to reduce my waiting lists by removing patients’ names.”
No, its just making fun of liberals…which is why it is so popular.
“Acclaimed Cuban Medical Care a Sham”
Listening to the New York Times or Hollywood’s contingent of wide-eyed Castro worshippers you’d get the idea that medical care in Castro’s Cuba makes America’s healthcare system look like a third world system.
Such claims are pure myth.
Dr. Hilda Molina, one of Cuba’s top neurosurgeons, a one-time member of the Cuban parliament, and a confidant of Fidel Castro, made the mistake of criticizing her nation’s medical care system.
Molina exposed Cuba’s two-tier medical system that enabled rich foreigners to come in for treatment at first-class facilities in Cuba, paying in dollars, while ordinary Cubans got some of the most atrocious medical care on the planet.
According to The American Thinker magazine, Molina was seriously punished for her revelations, as well as objecting to Castro’s fetal stem-cell research program on the grounds of conscience.
In the end, she lost her job, her parliament position, her livelihood and everything she’d worked for.
Nick, you have proven my point and you don’t even know it (by the way, how do you even know that I’m a liberal?).
What I’m saying is that Christian’s role as a cultural commentator is blown to bits with this post. Sure, he’s getting lots of traffic, but with posts like this it will be more and more from the Bill O’Reilly set…smug, ignorant, narrow-minded individuals like yourself. Somehow I don’t think that that was the crowd he was after when he made this site.
So sure, Christian can become as popular as ol’Bill and Ann Coulter and all the rest…that’s really something to be proud of.
Penn and Teller did a show on socialized medicine. Among many interesting factoids was the one where we learned that an animal can get an MRI at a vet’s with a day’s notice, but people must wait 6 months or more. They interviewed a vet who discussed how bad he felt turning people away who’d beg him to do an MRI for them clandestinely. Meanwhile Fido is well cared for. But of course there is no socialized vet medicine, yet.
I’d say the fault here lies with the insurance company. I wouldn’t blame the whole country.
Ha, I read an essay by a guy who worked for him (I think it was on Salon), anyway, he’s pretty abusive according to the writer.
I’m a white person and I love National Public Radio. Oh, it’s all true!
I don’t know if I like free health care because I’m white though. I think it’s because I’m cheap.
Critically ill [Canadian] patients rushed to U.S. for care
Globe and Mail ^
| Jan 19, 2008
Posted on 01/20/2008 10:34:27 AM PST by John Jorsett
More than 150 critically ill Canadians – many with life-threatening cerebral hemorrhages – have been rushed to the United States since the spring of 2006 because they could not obtain intensive-care beds here.
Before patients with bleeding in or outside the brain have been whisked through U.S. operating-room doors, some have languished for as long as eight hours in Canadian emergency wards while health-care workers scrambled to locate care.
The waits, in some instances, have had devastating consequences.
“There have been very serious health-care problems that have arisen in neurosurgical patients because of the lack of ability to attain timely transport to expert neurosurgical centres in Ontario,” said R. Loch Macdonald, chief of the division of neurosurgery at St. Michael’s Hospital in Toronto. Those problems, he said, include “brain injury or brain damage that could have been prevented by earlier treatment.”
UK Dentist Refuse Those With Bad Teeth
DENTISTS on the National Health Service are turning away people with bad teeth because they say they are only paid enough to treat patients with a good dental health record.
One surgery admitted that people who have not had a dental appointment for three years will be refused treatment. Others are employing more subtle methods to reject patients.
Dentists’ leaders say the NHS dental contract, introduced in April last year, has had a perverse effect because dentists earn the same for giving a patient one filling or 10.
The Oakwood Dental Centre in Derby, for instance, says on Derby City Primary Care Trust’s website that it “will only accept patients who have visited a dental surgery within the last three years”. Aneu Sood, who runs the practice, said it had no time to treat those who “need a tremendous amount of work”.
Stuff White People Like:
Safe neighborhoods.
Low crime rates.
Less disease.
Low drug abuse rates.
Suburbia.
Not Ghettos.
Jobs.
Education.
Raising their children.
Hygiene.
High Intelligence.
Learning.
Creating.
Inventing.
Pioneering.
The East Anglian Daily Times in Suffolk reports:
Health tourist claims back cash from NHS
A PENSIONER who borrowed more than £7,000 to pay for a hip operation abroad after being told she was too overweight to be treated on the NHS is trying to claim the money back from health chiefs. Former Bartlet Hospital canteen worker Moira Ryan, 69, from Felixstowe, flew to Malta with her son for the successful hip replacement….
The PCT had refused her treatment because of its policy of not providing surgery to most people with a body mass index of more than 35 unless they go through a weight-loss plan….Mrs Ryan said: “I had gone to Ipswich Hospital for an appointment and was told I needed a new hip but …NHS kept putting me off, telling me to lose weight. I am obese, but I paid my taxes all my life and feel let down badly. I am very, very disappointed – I had to turn to the banks to get a loan…
Mrs. Ryan, who has three children, flew from Stansted with Operations Abroad, which arranged for her to be picked up at her home, taken to the airport, and met off the plane in Malta. She was taken to the hospital, underwent tests, and was operated on the following day.
She said: “I feel brilliant, and I am back on my feet and doing very well. I am out of pain for the first time in five years….
Mrs. Ryan is thankfully doing well now after taking matters into her own hand. She found that being on the waiting list for her hip replacement meant being perpetually put off. No doubt, Ms. Anjelica Allen, the woman denied her hip operation in May for being six pounds overweight, is hoping that won’t be the case for her. In an update on her story, the Gainsborough Standard recently reported that due to the media attention to her treatment, the Lincolnshire Primary Care Trust has agreed to put her back on a waiting list.
But don’t rejoice yet. Besides an undefined wait ahead for her, it appears they’ve loosened their ruling restrictions only for lesser fat women. Women with BMIs above 35 are still being denied routine surgeries, including hysterectomies, until they take part in weight loss programs:
The problem is the line-crossing between poking fun at the realities of affluent white liberals enamored with multiculturalism and attacking a straw man set up by know-nothing ideologue pundits. For example, if I were to write a witty lampoon about George W. Bush’s unique brand o anguished English, I could tap into fertile ground for comedy. Assuming the piece was excellent, it would attract people who are into great satire.
On the other hand, if I wrote a comedic piece about George W. Bush’s problems with buggering choir boys, no amount of skill could make it particularly funny. Insofar as it attracted any approval, that would come from rabid hateful people who are more interested in expressing dark emotions than in enjoying displays of wit. This is because reality, as best I understand it, is not a place where the sitting President sodomizes adolescent male churchgoers.
The first example has potential to be funny because it pokes fun at something that actually exists. The second example lacks such potential because it attacks an entity that simply is not there. Judging by the insights and tone of “‘atta boy” responses to this post, only hateful people detached from reality took a liking to it. I believe that is because it lampoons the grotesque fiction of liberalism concocted by the very media personalities doing the greatest harm to civic discourse in modern times. Had it poked fun at something that actually existed, the results surely would have been more in line with previous efforts associated with this project.
Then it should be about Stuff Liberals Like, but it isn’t.
Listen, the ONLY reason he’s getting away with this is because he looks White. He’s Jewish. He *looks* White.
White in our modern age means people of Wholly European descent. This Jewish racist is NOT of Wholly European descent, meaning he’s not “White” making his statements about another race. Consider it’s based on blanket statements and not about specific individuals, that classifies as textbook racism according to Canadian law. The guy is a Jew and an anti-White racist, and if this blog was about Negros or Asians or Mestizos etc, than it would be shut down and the author would be jailed (in Canada, where the author is from).
All it takes is someone to make a complaint to the Canadian Human Rights Commission about his comments that are “likely to expose” Whites to “hatred and/or contempt”. Don’t believe me? A Canadian Homosexual activist and anti-free speech militant Richard Warman uses these laws all the time. Hell, if Ezra Levant can get charged under these laws for printing the incredibly funny Mohammad Cartoons, then this lone blogger can too.
What I find most disturbing about this blog is that the majority of it’s readers are White and actually think it’s funny to have their heritage mocked and ridiculed.
I don’t!
1/3 of our high school freshmen never even graduate, at this point.
“As for the socialist health care:
A TOWN woman who made national headlines after being refused a hip operation for being just six pounds overweight has been left overjoyed after hospital chiefs performed a dramatic climb-down. Anjelica Allan, after appearing on The Standard’s front page in May, made national news in The Sun, The Sunday Times and GMTV as she voiced her discontent after being refused the op.
Health bosses admitted to The Standard that people with a Body Mass Index (BMI) of greater than 30 – as in Miss Allan’s case – were refused hip and knee operations to save the primary care trusts money. But health officials have now overturned the policy – and Miss Allan is back on the waiting list….
Lincolnshire Primary Care Trust (LPCT) made the ruling on funding for knee and hip replacements as part of a savings drive in May 2006 – cutting costs by £500,000 per year.
Patients with a BMI of more than 30, were denied routine surgery – including hysterectomies – under a ruling made when Lincolnshire had three separate PCTs. However, the limit has only been raised to those with a BMI of higher than 35. Patients with a higher BMI will need to take part in a weight loss programmes….
How many people will continue to be denied treatment that can return them to quality, functional living, and will be left to suffer excruciating pain, simply because they are fat? As has been well documented in the medical literature, there is no credible evidence to support claims that fat people don’t benefit just as much as anyone else from joint replacements. There is only one reason for rationing and denying them care.”
Telegraph
Posted on 10/10/2007 6:20:55 PM PDT by oblomov
“Appalling standards of care and a catalogue of failures contributed to the deaths of 331 patients in the worst outbreak of a hospital superbug ever recorded in the NHS, a report has found.
Crowded wards, a shortage of nurses and financial problems led to 1,176 people contracting Clostridium difficile over two and half years at three hospitals in Kent.
Though the superbug was rife on the wards, managers failed to act. Isolation units were not set up, nurses were so rushed they did not have time to wash their hands and patients were left in soiled beds.
Bedpans were not decontaminated properly and beds were not cleaned as well as they should have been.
The health watchdog, the Healthcare Commission, concluded that the infection probably or definitely killed at least 90 patients and was a factor in the deaths of a further 241.
Fourteen patients who died were found to have C.diff but it did not contribute to their deaths. In total 345 people died with the infection.”
Whatever, it’s “free,” right? And we are supposed to be jealous of Great Britain?
Really. Slaves have no choices.
Get our own health insurance if you want it; don’t wait like a slave for a job to provide you with some.
BINGO!!!! zionismkills is right above.
This site is a disgrace to “Whites”.
It’s the non-Whites that want free health care. Socialism works in small doses in Europe, but only in places where the population is homogeneous, and not multi-cultural.
Good post, I think you hit the problem squarely on the head.
The thing is that some of the earlier posts hinted at Christian’s libertarianism, but stuck to topics that were still largely humorous, such as idle threats to move to Canada. But it seems as if Christian has lost his focus in all the hype, and is letting his politics hang out far too much.
Christian can have his political views, but the problem is that once they break through into his posts, the entire character of his site changes, as you have noted. The fact that people call this an “anti-liberal” blog is proof enough.
The truth is that even the post about music piracy was starting to cross the line. I mean, downloading free music is obviously a problematic issue, but it’s one that guaranteed to generate messy debate. Why not stick to more neutral ground when there’s so much funny and outlandsish “stuff white people like” out there that won’t cause such problems? Is Christian now trying to push a political agenda, or has he just lost the plot?
Potshot,
Fair enough. My assumption you are a liberal may have been off base. Perhaps you are a political moderate. Perhaps your a libertarian (although I doubt it).
But your point was Christian’s 15 minutes of fame is up. My point is you couldn’t be more off base with that. Traffic is at a record pace, and he is obviously appealing to people, whether you like it or not.
For the record, I am not a fan of Bill O’Reily. I think his heart is in the right place but I just don’t think he is very bright. I would also agree he is arrogant and smug. Ann Coulter is growing on me. She at least has more balls than most of the pansy ass men our government school system has produced in this country.
I’m more of a Neal Boortz guy. I’m a libertarian. I believe our Federal Government has a role in 2 things:
1) defense
2) building interstate highways
I believe in our constitution. I don’t believe it is a “living document.” I believe it is the most perfect document ever written in human history when it comes to organizing people into a civilization.
By clarifying my position, I realize I am getting somewhat off topic, but I want to make clear that I believe that liberals are the biggest threat to our nation because they want to brutalize this document by:
1) continuing government education (Karl Marx listed government education as one of the most important steps to socialism)
2) continuing to take away states rights
3) supporting the forced government seizure and redistribution of personal wealth
4) insisting that we are a democracy, when in fact we are most certainly a republic (don’t feel bad if you didn’t know that, you can blame your government-provided education for that…and I’m honestly not trying to be sarcastic right now)
5) fighting against the 2nd amendment
The list could literally go on and on. You may be thinking, “well Bush did this to the constituition and Bush did that…”
…and you’d be right. Bush also brutalized the constitution, he just did it less than liberals do.
That doesn’t make it right though. Which is why I’ve left the Republican party and registered as a Libertarian.
Thanks for the conversation.
Clander is dead wrong
It is the Whites in the USA that will kill the socialized medicine plan, because they will have to pay for it.
It is the non-Whites that want welfare and socialism, paid for by Whites!!!!
I don’t see how anyone can think this clander is “White”, he’s an anti-White little cretin.
No thanks.
The Republicans are being led by Neocons at the moment, and they are racist Likudist jews, not “Whites”.
Yeah, many people have mentioned that it’s not really about “Whites”, but jewified Whites, liberal Whites, and non-whites.
If it was called “stuffliberalslike” the satire wouldn’t have the same effect.
I think you are a little paranoid about Jewish people. And stop saying “Negros” unless you prefer to be called “cracker.”
– Libertarian White Guy
Kyle,
Look into adding your wife to your employer provided insurance now. Most insurance policies cannot deny pre-existing conditions (pregnancy included) and would cover the c-section. Also double check the quote – they generally cost $10K. Still a lot of money. Good Luck.
absolute nonsense!!!!!!!
Whites are responsible people, they don’t free load.
Truth:
excellent post.
Also, who is going to pay for it?
Probably all those “O’Reilly” types that make six figures plus and pay US Federal Income taxes.
It sure as hell isn’t going to be the non-whites.
Socialism works in small doses in Europe where the population is mostly racially homogeneous.
Right mike.
“White inner city liberals are more accurately known as jewified Whites.
Potshot,
Well stated. I guess I’m confused as to why you actually care if “the entire character of his site changes?”
My point is this audience is obviously hungry to discuss/vent on this issue. Christian is hitting on a hot topic here.
You say its ok for him to have his political views, yet are concerned he is trying to “push a political agenda”, which doesn’t add up. To be fair you also wonder if he “just lost the plot.”
Either way, why do you care? Something is bothering you about this, and whatever it is it seems you either aren’t articulating it or you aren’t being totally honest about why this bothers you.
I didn’t even know you were female, also I’m single, but flattered I think.
Cooked until well done, yes.
1/3 of our high school freshmen never even graduate, at this point.
What you mean by “our”?
If you separate out the Whites, it isn’t that high.
When they compare US students’ math and science scores, if they were to compare only US Whites, then we are in the top of the world.
When you include all the non-Whites in the US in these stats that’s what drags us down to third world levels.
Race matters. Whites always perform wherever they are in Australia, Canada, USA, Europe.
Blacks and Hispanics fail whereever they are: Detroit, Mexico City, Haiti, South Africa, Columbia,……all cess pools.
Whites in the USA are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves, and within an orderly health care system.
Hattie wants the USA to take on the entire Third World and cure what ails them. It won’t work. The math doesn’t compute.
What you want to do is turn everything into lukewarm, and bring down the good, which won’t fix the bad anyway.
Go volunteer yourself, by all means, but don’t force your intolerant socialist views on the country that stands for Liberty!
And I need a billion dollars and a supermodel girlfriend.
Can’t argue with that one.
Dumb Whites, and hateful weasel Liberals always abort.
If we didn’t abort 50 million White kids, then we wouldn’t be needing this influx of mexicans now would we?
White are suicidal, and the liberals that don’t reproduce and then also support abortion are the weakest people around. Darwin would have a field day!!!
The MAJORITY of abortion doctors in the US are Jewish. My, how they love to abort Whites. They love supporting abortion in any and all spheres of Western life (but not israel, of course)
Totally jumped the shark. I did a Ctrl-F and found that someone else already said this. Echo.
Good run, though.
to kamandi: Did you ever think to get an insurance quote on your own? Like your auto insurance?
White people who don’t smoke and are normally healthy in their youth (20’s-30’s) can get a “castastrophic protection” policy with a deductible of $5000, for $75 per month.
You want a smaller deductible? It’s cost you $120 per month.
Stop giving us all this sob story and wise up. Liberals are idiots.
IF every douche bag would cut back on fancy gourmet food and alcohol, they could afford EASILY the type of policy above.
Try calling a health care insurance company for once. PICK UP THE DAMN TELEPHONE and make an inquiry. Stop crying.
NO, NO, NO….
the people selling this plan are Clinton, Edwards and Obama and they are selling it to NON-WHITES, in exchange for votes of non-Whites.
Exactly.
Nice try M.
Ever single black welfare recipient, that doesn’t work, that sits on their fat-asses eating artery cloggin fast food, they ALL HAVE NICE BRAND-NEW COLOR TV’S. Some even own cars.
You must not understand real city life. Are you a suburbanite or something?
GWB is the perfect example of this kind of moron.
“free-market” good
“democracy” good
“open borders” good
“nativism” bad
“isolationism” bad
“protectionism” bad
repeat like a Econ or Poli Sci mantra over and over, while never thinking about any of it in detail.
Meanwhile, China does the exact opposite and is growing at a 10% clip.
You tell ’em VLAD!!!!
Right.
I think maybe Random House is calling the shots topic-wise from here on out. Too bad.
I agree it is nice to see Clander & Jess & Mylosh get some compensation for a witty piece of fun that became a phenomenon & I hope their book does well but I am skeptical mainly of the calculating minds that now have a meddling piece of them & have changed the woof & warp of the blog just enough to take the edge off its former sharpness.
BTW your Blog — Just Dreadful — Rocks!
I’ve added it to my RSS feeder.
racial awareness club?
Is this an anti-White and/or White guilt club?
If there are any Whites that want “racial awareness”, or even a basic IQ about who they are, then they should start here:
http://www.amren.com
You won’t regret it, I assure you.
Dude, people are gonna start asking you what size white sheet you wear.
You could have saved yourself time and effort by writing “I’m a over-privileged, ungrateful, bigoted, retard whose parents obviously care so little for me they have neither taken the time to teach me to be civil nor attempted to dispel my woeful ignorance.” It would have gotten your point across equally as well.
You are too funny. I can’t wait for the book.
They have no comeback when I say that we might be speaking German if it weren’t for the good old USA.
Absolute nonsense.
England declared war on Germany, not the other way around.
in 1940, the German-Americans were the largest ethnic group in the US, still are today. You have no evidence that Hilter wanted to invade the US.
Your grip on history is weak, and you might find this interesting about WW2:
http://antiwar.com/pat/
Was WWII Really ‘The Good War’?
April 4, 2008
Was WWII Really ‘The Good War’?
by Patrick J. Buchanan
“Yes, it was a good war,” writes Richard Cohen in his column challenging the thesis of pacifist Nicholson Baker in his new book, Human Smoke, that World War II produced more evil than good.
Baker’s compelling work, which uses press clips and quotes of Axis and Allied leaders as they plunged into the great cataclysm, is a virtual diary of the days leading up to World War II.
Riveting to this writer was that Baker uses some of the same episodes, sources and quotes as this author in my own book out in May, Churchill, Hitler and ‘The Unnecessary War.
On some points, Cohen is on sold ground. There are things worth fighting for: God and country, family and freedom. Martyrs have ever inspired men. And to some evils pacifism is no answer. Resistance, even unto death, may be required of a man.
But when one declares a war that produced Hiroshima and the Holocaust a “Good War,” it raises a question: good for whom?
Britain declared war on Sept. 3, 1939, to preserve Poland. For six years, Poland was occupied by Nazi and Soviet armies and SS and NKVD killers. At war’s end, the Polish dead were estimated at 6 million. A third of Poland had been torn away by Stalin, and Nazis had used the country for the infamous camps of Treblinka and Auschwitz.
Fifteen thousand Polish officers had been massacred at places like Katyn. The Home Army that rose in Warsaw at the urging of the Red Army in 1944 had been annihilated, as the Red Army watched from the other side of the Vistula. When the British celebrated V-E day in May 1945, Poland began 44 years of tyranny under the satraps of Stalin, Khrushchev and Brezhnev.
Was World War II “a good war” for the Poles?
Was it a good war for Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, overrun by Stalin’s army in June 1940, whose people saw their leaders murdered or deported to the Gulag never to return? Was it a good war for the Finns who lost Karelia and thousands of brave men dead in the Winter War?
Was it a good war for Hungarians, Czechs, Yugoslavs, Romanians and Albanians who ended up behind the Iron Curtain? In Hungary, it was hard to find a women or girl over 10 who had not been raped by the “liberators” of the Red Army. Was it a good war for the 13 million German civilians ethnically cleansed from Central Europe and the 2 million who died in the exodus?
Was it a good war for the French, who surrendered after six weeks of fighting in 1940 and had to be liberated by the Americans and British after four years of Vichy collaboration?
And how good a war was it for the British?
They went to war for Poland, but Winston Churchill abandoned Poland to Stalin. Defeated in Norway, France, Greece, Crete and the western desert, they endured until America came in and joined in the liberation of Western Europe.
Yet, at war’s end in 1945, Britain was bled and bankrupt, and the great cause of Churchill’s life, preserving his beloved empire, was lost. Because of the “Good War,” Britain would never be great again.
And were the means used by the Allies, the terror bombing of Japanese and German cities, killing hundreds of thousands of women and children, perhaps millions, the marks of a “good war”?
Cohen contends that the evil of the Holocaust makes it a “good war.” But the destruction of the Jews of Europe was a consequence of this war, not a cause. As for the Japanese atrocities like the Rape of Nanking, they were indeed horrific.
But America’s smashing of Japan led not to freedom for China, but four years of civil war followed by 30 years of Maoist madness in which 30 million Chinese perished.
For America, the war was Pearl Harbor and Midway, Anzio and Iwo Jima, Normandy and Bastogne, days of glory leading to triumph and the American Century.
But for Joseph Stalin, it was also a good war. From his pact with Adolf Hitler he annexed parts of Finland and Romania, and three Baltic republics. His armies stood in Berlin, Prague and Vienna; his agents were vying for power in Rome and Paris; his ally was installed in North Korea; his protege, Mao, was about to bring China into his empire. But it was not so good a war for the inmates of Kolyma or the Russian POWs returned to Stalin in Truman’s Operation Keelhaul.
Is a war that replaces Hitler’s domination of Europe with Stalin’s and Japan’s rule in China with Mao’s a “good war”? We had to stop the killers, says Cohen. But who were the greater killers: Hitler or Stalin, Tojo or Mao Zedong?
Can a war in which 50 million perished and the Christian continent was destroyed, half of it enslaved, a war that has advanced the death of Western civilization, be truly celebrated as a “good war”?
wait, I’m confused. wasn’t the US the last country to join WWII after it was almost all over? if those bombs hadn’t been dropped we might be speaking Japanese or Russian, but not German.
Nick,
I’ll reply to you here, though I found your previous post extremely interesting. I may not agree with everything you say, but, oddly enough, as a medieval historian, I understand the value of de-centralized gov’t (long story short, the idea that the medieval world was “feudal” and primitive was something of a myth, and personal freedoms were actually greater than previously assumed).
Apologies for the earlier insults, by the way…conversations have a way of degenerating quickly on-line, I suppose.
Anyway, as for why I case, I suppose it’s merely for art’s sake, if that makes sense. Christian was always treading a fine line here, but seemed to be quite adept at making pointed observations over the absurdities of liberal white culture in a way that avoided the politics of someone like, say, David Brooks. Not an easy trick, and it was nice to have something that everyone could enjoy…or at least those who were not overly sensitive.
Turning this more into a political blog sort of shatters the character of the blog and makes it somehow…I don’t know, less substantial. Not too say political blogs aren’t substantial, but I think Christian has/had something special going here that he’s risking losing, and that’s a shame for everyone.
this white person loves Dolly Parton.
the white “al sharpton”?
This clander guy is like the White Uncle Tom, a mostly anti-White white.
Thomas Sowell is more White than clander!
I meant “care”, not “case” in the previous post…sorry for the typo.
Che Guevara was White. He was Irish and White Argentinian.
Guevara also went to the Congo, where he became a White realist because he felt blacks were totally stupid (IQ-wise).
Look it all up, it’s all true.
I also thought this post sucked at first, but after reading the crazy shit people are posting in response, I have realized how brilliant it actually was. Tricking idiots into seriously discussing socialized health care is the kind of genius move only a Canadian could pull off.
McCain is another Neocon stooge, he’s being led around by Joe Leiberman, the resident israeli racist in Congress.
from http://www.haaretz.com
In Canada private healthcare is illegal.
Are you one of those angry little jews that used to deface library stalls in the 1970’s with your racist heeb crap?
Russian jews are all in israel, the US, or in the UK up to their usual swindling.
It is any wonder to any Liberal why this is the axis we are in (israel, US, UK)?
PS wasn’t it “Save Soviet Jews”?
not “Free Russian Jews”?
no shit. if your life sucks that much, the only thing you can do to distract yourself from thoughts of suicide is to watch tv.
i’d rather pay for poor people’s health care than have to look at how toothless and obese they are.
I’ve had to wait much longer for doctor’s appointments in the US than I ever did in Canada.
just sayin’
I just want to add in a fresh post, since I’m going on a different track here, that this entry doesn’t even make sense, regardless of where we all sit on the health care issue, for several reasons:
1) As this comment thread has demonstrated, many white people don’t dig free health care. In fact, among the white, yuppieish Americans this blog makes fun of, the issue seems to split the crowd 50-50, at least in America.
2) Related to the previous point, when did health care become an issue only white people talked about? As far as I know, minority interest groups are extremely vocal about the health care issue.
3) The Michael Moore argument is weak and passe. In fact, “Saying Micheal Moore has ‘lost it'” would be a more appropriate thread for current stuff white people like. Seriously, mention Michael Moore to most white people now, and you’re almost guaranteed to get an eye roll (of course I include myself in that group).
Compare this post to the one about water bottles, which so cleverly dissected that hypocrises of that issue, and you’ll see why the “jump the shark” comment has become so popular here.
American’s started out as European besides the Indians stupid.
I get better care when traveling in Germany and Switzerland.
They take care of anyone unlike America, one needs insurance.
“Nude Twister Anyone?”
David Brooks is a JEW. He’s not “White”. Same goes for that little punk Beinart, another non-White.
Actually, both these guys are anti-White when you really analyze their positions on things.
Count me in on this free health care thing. So long as it doesn’t lump me in the “wrong kind” of white people: those who get free health care via welfare.
wait: did we explore the differences here?
Oh, did we also explore the views on socialized medicine with the “right kind” of white people who are doctors?
obviously this is part of the grand conspiracy of white-baby-killing-jews. obviously.
I’m not “paranoid”, because everything I say is true, and I challenge you to prove me wrong on anything.
I think you might want to look up the definition of paranoid in Webster. Perhaps it refers to those who cannot handle honest criticism of Jews or other non-Whites, when they are trying to speak for “Whites”.
obviously.
PS Why did the beginning of Laverne & Shirley contain two Yiddish words? “Schlmiel, Schlamaz”
I love it how those two “Marshall” jew lie and say they are “Italian”, what a disgrace those false Whites.
Penny Marshall married the most bigoted anti-White Jew around: Rob Reiner.
You need to wake up Mr. Libertarian. Don’t you even know who your own people are, and who aren’t?
You sound like a clueless liberal.
They apparently don’t value them enough for the future generations of White kids.
Look at what LA once was, imagine what it will be in 40 more years!!!!!
I think most liberals don’t reproduce and therefore aren’t quite as advanced mentally, not having had to take on adult challenges in life like families, etc.
you should die. now.
obviously you’ve never been to europe.
too bad you didn’t get it. idiot.
the post on recycling was pretty much exactly the same. it’s a political issue, he was poking fun at exactly the point of view he holds, and the neo-cons and idiots jumped all over it in agreement.
Couldn’t be because it brings out more anti-semites than a all expenses paid trip to Nuremberg? Nah, who cares? I’m interested in the “art” of the blogosphere.
-libertarian blowhardiest.
Most insurance policies DO deny pre-existing conditions, mate. They even tried to get out of paying to have my wisdom teeth removed, claiming that the existence of the teeth was a pre-existing condition (I kid you not).
First!
The U.S. constitution states that it’s citizens are have certain rights including “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. If one does not have good health how can they be happy? I’m tired of this health care shit, stop living in the past. Health care is another “unalienable” right, but some folks will continue to believe the capitalist garbage thrown at them while the American physicans laugh all the way to the bank. I am sick of this shit, not funny.
They are talking about your right to be happy: drink beer, smoke cigarettes, eat steak, etc. in peace.
They aren’t talking about a right to a wealth transfer from your neighbor.
absurdities of liberal white culture in a way that avoided the politics of someone like, say, David Brooks.
Just trying to keep things honest, but I guess we cannot do that. Brooks is jewish, and his agenda is jewish, not White.
I see. Calling David Brooks “a jew”, when he is one, is now “anti-semitic”.
Get lost. You are infantile.
Is calling Bill O’Reilly “Irish Catholic” a hatecrime too? Loser.
Or is that only the ignorance of southern whites or those who live in New Jersey and Rhode Island.
You’re joking right?
Southern Whites are not ignorant when it comes to the subject of blacks.
Far from it. They have to live near your murderers, rapists, HS drop-outs, and obese women. They know you people well.
Tell me where socialism works in Europe where it’s no longer White. Denmark works because it’s homogeneous. When it becomes non-White or too far multi-cult, its socialism will fail.
What are you some judeo-Bolshevik mass murderer? Psycho.
that’s a brill comment hoobie…….exactly what I was thinking!!
While there are, of course, pro-life Jews who are disturbed by the abortion rates in both the United States and Israel, I would venture to say that they are certainly in the minority, especially in the U.S. Their low regard for Gentile life at any stage of development is reflected in the number of abortions performed by Jewish doctors (about half of all abortion providers are Jewish) in Jewish owned “women’s clinics” (about a half of all such clinics are owned by Jews) which is way out of proportion when you consider what a small percentage of our population Jews comprise.
Various people have commented publicly about the disproportionate number of Jews in the abortion rights movement. For instance, Kenneth Mitzner, founder of an organization entitled The Pro-life League Against Neo-Hitlerism said:
Abortion has pretty wide support among Jews in this country and various Jewish organizations in the U.S. are openly and unashamedly pro abortion, organizations such as:
American Jewish Committee
American Jewish Congress
B’nai B’rith Women
Central Conference of American Rabbis [Reform]
Federation of Reconstructionist Congregations
Hadassah Women
Jewish Labor Committee
Na’amat USA
National Federation of Temple Sisterhoods [Reform]
National Council of Jewish Women
New Jewish Agenda
North American Temple Youth
Rabbinical Assembly
Union of American Hebrew Congregations [Reform]
United Synagogues of America [Conservative]
Women’s League for Conservative Judaism
This one should be DEAR to Canadians:
Henry Morgentaler, M.D., LL.D.(hc), (born March 19, 1923, in Łódź, Poland) is a Canadian gynecologist and pioneering abortion provider from Montreal.
Morgentaler is a Holocaust survivor. After living through Auschwitz, he accepted a United Nations scholarship that was being offered to Jewish survivors.
Morgentaler has an estimated gross annual revenue of $11 million from his abortion clinics, according to research published in the Quebec/Franco-Ontarian paper Le Droit on Saturday, October 26, 2002.
Abortionist Henry Morgentaler is not on the Order of Canada List for 2008.
“Earlier this month, some Canadian abortion activists were stepping up efforts to have Dr. Morgentaler awarded Canada’s highest civilian honour, the Order of Canada, for his years of advocacy for legalizing abortion and for the thousands of abortions that he personally has performed.”
Want to keep on going? Need more?
Although the rest of the blog is mostly hilarious, this particular post is not funny, at least to a non-American. The satire just doesn’t work for those outside the USA.
EVERY person should be able to get necessary healthcare free of charge, in a timely fashion. Many of us (I’m in New Zealand, but people in other countries are similar) who can afford to use private healthcare do not do so, we wait and use the public system. We also send our kids to state schools. This behaviour is particularly prevalent in white people – you know, the ones who have dinner parties to which they invite their gay friends. And at which their 10-year olds drink wine.
We do this because if we don’t, funding will become progressively less and the service for those who cannot afford to pay will become progressively worse.
Rest-of-the-world white people are prepared to pay fairly high taxes in order to fund education and healthcare for everyone.
Yeah right. They like to call people inbreds too, until they realize that the Yids are more inbred than any other group in America. It’s meaningless, getting called ‘racist’ from the world’s top racists. Even the blacks are far more racist than are “Whites”.
Slurs like that are totally meaningless, because as the saying goes: it takes one to know one.
I laughed at the other “Things White People Like” articles, but have to say I’m not on board with this one.
I’m a corporate whitey and can rarely get in to see any kind of a doctor in my PPO network earlier than three weeks to a month from the time I make the appointment. This was the case when I had a mysterious lump on my leg and another time when I was bleeding somewhere unmentionable. Thankfully these issues turned out to be benign, but they could have been serious…
I’ve had to fight with several insurance companies over the years to get certain medical expenses paid, when the providers were on the verge of sending my account to collection. It took more than two years to get a collection taken off all three credit reporting agencies over a bill that insurance took their own sweet time to pay.
When I was downsized from a job in 2003, I absolutely couldn’t afford even the most basic coverage. Cobra was about $350 a month. I went without insurance for almost two years until I found another job. That was scary — nobody should have to go through that.
Yep, I’m a white person that thinks our healthcare system sucks and agree 1000% with some form of government provided insurance for ANYONE who doesn’t get it through their job. I don’t care if crackheads and deadbeats get a free ride — nobody should ever go without health care just because they can’t pay for it.
This blog was always about white liberals, I don’t know why people are getting so worked up about this post. You’ve been being ridiculed all along, maybe this one was just less subtle. There’s never been one post about “getting a degree in economics/finance/business” or “investing wisely” or any other stereotypical white conservative behavior. Nothing about southern conservatives either, no “going to church” or “opposing gay marriage.” It’s all about being frivolous and air-headed, trademarks of white liberals.
I mean, if you can find me a white conservative that wants to move to San Fransisco, or threatens to run to Canada, or hates corporations or hangs out a rallies for stupid causes feel free to prove me wrong.
White people might like the National Health Service, but poor people like it even better.
BTW, how do you get Google Ads on here? I thought they weren’t allowed on WordPress. Or is this a dumb hick question?
Allow me to say… I’m a white guy…. and I think Socialized Medicine borders on “Abomination” status. Somehow, a twenty month waiting period for a hip replacement just doesn’t sound like much fun to me. Considering that we are also hearing quite a bit about how the healthcare system is tanking because of a shortage of doctors and nurses, adding another 20 million patients into the list of those needing healthcare doesn’t sound like a viable option to fix said problem.
Just my thoughts… and I wish people didn’t make a big deal about which response they were…
Adam
These aren’t even your politics. I’ve personally heard you mock the privatized U.S. health care system.
What the fuck is this intellectually dishonest shit?
It may be intended for humor, but you included no apparent irony in this entry.
Since when did your blog turn into conservative editorial? And since when did you turn U.S.-style conservative?
Picking on white liberals for intellectual pretense is genuinely funny. Validating misinformation like we see peppered through this thread is not. Ignorance and gullibility cause many Americans to worship the sacrosanct perfection of market forces. Government control of the economy is presumed to be wrong, and private control of the economy is presumed to be right. That is capital S Stupid! Wrong is wrong, and right is right. Who pulls the strings hardly matters even a little bit compared to a wide array of other considerations.
Sure, Michael Moore has let loose with documentaries that contain factual inaccuracies. They may not be as bad as the factual inaccuracies of something like a 21st century State of the Union address, but they are still misinformation. That said, even the President’s fondness for playing fast and loose with the truth is dwarfed by the sort of outright nonsense that has people characterizing socialized medicine as “a wealth transfer” or suggesting that healing the sick is somehow a recipe for economic disaster.
In a simple-minded Candyland version of reality, everyone does their own thing and everyone is happy with the winners and losers as determined by rolls of the dice success in business or employment negotiations. In reality, the economy is dense with interdependency. In reality, untreated injuries and illnesses drag down workforce productivity, which in turn drags down investment returns. Even for individuals and organizations comfortable with their health insurance yet uninvested in stocks, bonds, and other instruments influenced by general productivity gains; pressures toward better results in areas like consumer prices and professional services can be driven by effects like a significant upgrade to the overall state of public health.
Heck, even an heir who does nothing but spend on impractically costly goods and services has some interest in all of this. Never mind how cutthroat economic thinking is an anathema to basic human decency. It is also shortsighted. Do you want the dishwasher at the country club to have tuberculosis? Do you want your uncle’s cousin’s best friend to hit you up for a donation to his charity fund because there is no other way to pay for his lifesaving operation? Do you want the streets of large cities to be decorated by an array of decrepit senior citizens begging for scraps of food?
Socialized medicine is not a Robin Hood initiative. It is a sensible step forward for the whole of any society with the resources to achieve it. Unless we Americans wish to take the position that we are simply much more incompetent than the rest of the civilized world, we must accept that we can get this done. Personally, I like to think that America could have the best national health care policy in the world — one that preserves boutique clinics for the pampered elite as well as other private practices catering to individuals with special needs, while the bulk of medical care is (like defense or roads) treated as a given for all members of our society.
Of course there is a cost to everything, but in the realm of public policy there is often a cost to not doing anything. Inadequate preventative and pediatric medical efforts in this nation result in less healthy adults. Tremendous savings are to be had by treating potentially serious problems before they become truly serious problems. Perhaps it would not be a wash. Perhaps we could not learn from the examples of others, blend the best available ideas together, and accomplish superior public health with lesser resource consumption. Yet even if it does really cost more to take health care on as a national responsibility, the economic boost provided by a healthier workforce is sure to be a wonderful salve for the wound of giving up fairy tale nonsense about rugged individualism.
You know that the libs are hurt when they start foaming at the mouth and spitting venom. The article is 100% true. Chatup with any white liberal who has travelled abroad and they will spout the same utter nonesense.
This article is by far the best and most striking, although meant for satire its is 100% on point and oh so true.
A friend of mine from England said, ” Socialized Healthcare is only free if you are unemployed, on welfare and not getting taxed”.
Just a note, the proper term is Universal Health care not socialist health care. SHC refers to health care where the government has banned the private sector. There are only 2 countries that do that. Canada and Cuba, in all of Europe there is a public system (with attending waiting lists) and a private system.
Unfortunately conservatives prefer lies and misrepresentations to honest argument.
Thankfully Neo Cons are on the run having been rejected by the American people.
BTW Bush is a liberal, only a true blue Socialist would introduce a government run drug benefit program. But again Conservatives don’t care about facts.
And not being able to have a hip replacement at all if you are down on your luck is OK?
If you are poor you can just live with your cataracts?
You’d rather the people who are poor through no fault of their own suffer just so that those who “don’t deserve” don’t get anything?
I suppose you think you are a Christian too.
Why is universal health care bad but universal schooling good. I could go on and on
Interstates, airports, parks, etc etc more socialist liberal crap that we should all get rid of.
“In spite of having access to the best health insurance and fanciest hospitals, white people are passionate about the idea of socialized medicine.”
Not true unless you have a very good job, or work for the government. My guess is that the worst of the layoffs are 1 year away. After that 6 months of COBRA run out. Then what?
True: welfare in Europe is generally only free for those who can’t afford it – WHICH IS THE POINT. The rest are obligated to get insurance. Despite waiting lists and other negative aspects of this situation en Europe, even the wealthiest in the USA are actually less healthy than the average European.
Guess what the main difference is: affordable health care.
When you walk the streets in Amsterdam you will not see what I saw in Chicago: people walking on crutches because their broken leg hadn’t been treated properly. And not getting good health care IS actually a very good way to stay poor and not get a job.
BTW – I’m a white person, and not ashamed of it.
I got sick in the US – an allergy problem with an infection added in the mix. The stress of getting sick was compounded by the stress of wondering how much it was going to cost me. Guess what’s generally very bad for sick people? Stress. My Dutch insurance actually refunded all my costs when I was back in The Netherlands – but the experience did teach me something about health care: you want it precisely when you need it.
Yes, yes, and yes. Thank you, Marie. I would suspect that much of the reason that this country is in the midst of a credit/foreclosure crisis is related to white peoples’ entitlement issues. I say this with the authority of a white person who has entitlement issues and a ridiculous credit card balance…but at least I recognize my own folly. I’m not entitled by God/the laws of nature/etc. to health insurance – I can have it if I’m willing to work and/or pay for it; if I’m not, I pay for what I can afford. Period. (Does having priorities and principles make me the wrong kind of white person? Maybe.)
I’m totally playing devil’s advocate here, because I myself am opposed to socialized healthcare, but since when did liposuction become some kind of essential medical treatment? Terrible example the author used to illustrate what remains a very good point.
This is the first time you’ve actually come across as a neocon who’s just pissed off at liberals and wants to dress it up as a critique of your white peers. Keep it up and we’ll just get bored.
See, the issue with anecdotal evidence like this is that it can be found anywhere. Hell, I even have my own. When my appendix was ready to explode, I was admitted to the emergency ward and still waited over four hours in extreme abdominal pain to get into surgery. Lucky my appendix held out, or I might not be around to be writing this. To make matters worse, they didn’t look properly at my chart and gave me pain medication I was allergic to. I was in a hospital in the United States, and I had excellent health insurance.
People find it awfully easy to demonize UHC with stories of long waits, but I’ve personally experienced nothing but long waits in hospitals here. So our system works so much better?
In which case, they will first be paying for the health care of others (via taxes), then they can pay for their own. Brilliant.
I’m beginning to think that I actually like some of the stuff that white people like. (Free healthcare being a case in point.)
absinthe is illegal in america? hahahahaha shame, land of the free hahahahahaha
i’m off to have a tot for you guys 🙂
Oh, I just love it! Spot on, Dave.
Australia has two things that the U.S is missing out on. Gun control and “socialised” medecine. As a white guy, I got to say; it makes ALL the difference in the world.
aw, but wp love having their heads up their asses 😦
wp love taking themselves very, very seriously
Really? So you think if I went to the US as a Canadian I’d get treated for free? hell, I’d be lucky if the treatment didn’t break me financially. You can keep your HMOs and your for-profit health care. You Americans pay far mpre per capita for health care than those with socialized medicine do. But I don’t suppose, as an American, you’re even aware of, nor care about, that fact.
Google it if you don’t believe me Patriot.
I enjoy reading these comments, but continually am surprised at someone who writes pretty well can spend so much energy defending the arrogant we-know-whats-best-for-you class. I will say that there might be some mis-representation by some who don’t like the idea of government health care. But look at what that side is dealing with. Rich white people, whenever in a public discussion where they are trying to win the hearts and minds of people, call it FREE. It is not free. In fact, if you think medical care is expensive now, wait till it is free.
So, you’re citing Pat Buchanan as evidence of why intervention against Nazis was a bad idea and how that little WWII kerfuffle woulda been avoidable if we’d just left Hitler and the Japanese militarists well enough alone.
And you’re doing this on a comedy blog.
Seriously?
Also, Buchanan’s reading of history is grossly ignorant and ideologically self-serving (surprise!). Did specific decisions during the Pacific War ensure that communism would thrive in China, leading directly to our struggles in Indochina throughout the ’50s and ’60s? Yep. Is that reason to have not resisted fascism and Japanese imperialism at all? Nope. Unless you’re Pat Buchanan.
You’ve made your point: These Jews should at least wait until the babies are born before drinking their blood.
That is your point… right?
White people love to say that you’re “deflating the dialog” (sic) when you express an opinion that differs from their own.
I have no desire for socialized medicine in the United States. I’ve had three unfortunate encounters with socialized medicine – one in which the person almost died due to an uneducated mistake on a prescription on the part of the doctor and nurse when it was clear to the patient that it was wrong because the bottle said “don’t do this”. Hello?!
It would be a huge mistake to have free health care for everyone. Regulating insurance costs a little more – yes. Offering multiple options for those that are self-employed or aren’t offered benefits – yes. Teaching people how to manage their money so they have an “emergency fund” to help with some of these things – yes. Free health care – definitely not.
I also find it funny that people think that there isn’t a hidden cost to private health care. There most certainly is…have even of you you ever considered the millions and millions that companies have to spend to insure all of their employees? I’m talking companies that actually provide such services, which is true of almost any white-collar work, and most blue-collar.
If anyone here was to start up a new firm, just think of the cost involved in insuring every single employee you hired. For major corporations, this is expensive stuff. In a SHC/UHC system, all that overhead is off your shoulders.
Just some food for thought in an age when real wages, accounting for inflation, haven’t risen for three decades.
Anybody remember that song “Oval Office” by 3rd Bass? White people love white rappers, but we will never, ever admit it.
This white fad isn’t exactly spot on as it’s very trendy to be against socialized medicine, but the author tied this piece in so well with the other stuff white people like that it makes this entry on of the most brilliant yet.
Ace.
@swiftest… the problem with our current healthcare system is that we pay insurance companies who have the primary goal of turning a profit, NOT insuring its policy holders.
Examples:
– Unitedhealth recently reported a profit of $8.65 billion and their CEO has a BASE salary of over $1 million and company stock options valued at over $744 million
– Aetna recently reported a profit of $10.30 billion and their CEO has a BASE salary of over $1 million and company stock options valued at over $218 million.
This is contrary to the notion that insurance companies are simply administrators for our payments to doctors and medical facilities. Many insurance companies are publicly traded on the stock market, so first and foremost they must answer to their board of directors and share holders in regards to their profits. Essentially, this means we are OVERPAYING on premiums, co-pays and deductibles so we can line the pockets of insurance company execs and stakeholders. This in turn means a lot of what we pay isn’t going to the doctor or medical facility at all!!
Bottom line, healthcare doesn’t cost as much as we pay and therefore without the insurance companies as money hungry middle men between us and our doctors & hospitals… providing universal coverage is attainable.
calling yourself “(whatever)y Mc(whatever)” is always a dead giveaway that you were raised in the suburbs.
@KV I wonder how much of that $556 billion actually went towards medical expenses. There’s a lot of fraud, waste and abuse going on with medicaid and medicare funds (as reported by the U.S. Dept of Health & Human Services).
Speaking as an actual European (and white person) I must admit I find it very difficult to even understand how any civilized country can have a non-“socialised” medicine system. It’d be like the police being private. The USA really is a very strange place.
@tsfiles
Actually, men and women in the US have a shorter life expectancy than men and women in the UK, Canada, France, Switzerland, Sweden, Japan, Australia… just to name a few.
You’re going too far now. So what?? White people care about those who can’t afford insurance? It seems to me in being so anti-trends, you yourself are turning into a trend. This blog isn’t nearly as clever as you, or fucking Target Corp, THINK it is.
I would agree to this. Mainly because I do that and I was raised in the suburbs 😉
The comment about Target is hilarious on many levels, whether you intended it to be or not.
Because if you’re serious about that statement, you’re lagging a good April Fool’s joke by four whole days.
I am surprised no one has said anything earlier about this.
Health Care is an insurance. We divirsify our risk, by collectivley pooling money together.
I (and my employer) has paid $8453 in the 35 months I have been employed. I have gone to the Doctor twice in that period. But the insurance side is that if I had something major happened (costing $25,000) it would be covered.
Insurance companies are banking on the idea that there are going to be more people like me, than there will of the “inverse” of me.
Plus they take money they receive, look for good investments, and build profit through that as well.
As far as CEO pay. What do you want, it’s America. We pay our CEOs well. They have hard jobs. I don’t know when making money in America became wrong.
Plus Insurance companies create jobs for millions of Americans – which cyclically boosts the economy – and why it not employ your or me – it employs people we know.
I am the wrong kind of white people.
Oh? I’m currently waiting two months to get an appointment to get a second opinion since my current doctor, IMHO has botched care for a chronic disease.
A one month wait, like those in Canada would be an improvement.
You have quite the way with woman. Am i to blame your mother for failing you?
Good for you, Rosie. Your hot!
Hey dumb ass, go to Europe, look see and ask. Obviously you haven’t been there and just have you mouth running.
right on. the libs forget that there is no free lunch – nothing is free but the air we breathe. so socialized medicine is “free”, always in quotes.
Mortgage crisis? As in less than 4% of high risk borrowers are being foreclosed. Crisis. As in healthcare. Currently fully 45% of our population already has government subsidized healthcare.
Check a fact occassionally. Just because the tv news says it, doesn’t mean that it is correct. Chances are good that it is wrong based solely on the fact that it is on the tv news.
Remember, that almost the entire CBS news department was fired after the run-up to the last Presidential election for lying about a sitting President.
It’s easy, put your head between your legs and if you see a Kansas sunflower; you’re white. If you see the inside of a coal bin; your black. Any questions?
Be careful, you could bend over too far; then you would become a Republican.
so what’s wrong with that?
you’s the rite kind, man
Watch Sicko, or get some personal experience of both systems before you comment – some of you, nay a lot of you, come across as incredibly insular and opinionated with absolutely NO frame of reference. In the good ol’ fucked up US of A, the only people who get anything like decent healthcare (in contrast to the UK) are the rich and wealthy, and then they get royally fucked in the arse for it by profiteers and scam artist insurance co’s who do ANYTHING not to pay out. IF they don’t pay out, you have to find the money somewhere else. Nice system, everyone for themselves… We in the UK and across Europe have a healthcare system which was created after the Second World War to care for as many people as possible, regardless of financial status. We have in Europe a far longer life expectancy, prescription drugs which cost at most £6.65 per prescription, regardless of quantity or type – let’s compare that to the good old USA, where you poor fuckers get fucked for as much money as the Pharmas can make. Great country, enjoy it! I’ll stick with Europe every time. You people are fucked, and not in a good way. Oh and read the Anglo-American Establishment by Carol Quigley, you may learn some things. Then again, most of you should probably start with something a little less challenging…
Of course the (English) National Health Service is funded by taxes!! How else could it exist?! What’s your point?! If you don’t want to pay taxes to make sure those less-well-off are looked after, then fine, be that way, but don’t act as if you’ve spotted a flaw in the concept of free healthcare by identifying that it would have to be bank-rolled by taxation.
What on earth are you talking about? Everything that is worth anything is free, you moron…
You reckon the stuff you buy is worth anything?
You even know what “worth” or “value” means? Really?
Nothing has intrinsic “value”, it is only the value that is placed upon it by other people, and how many other people want that thing (demand) as opposed to how much of that thing is around (supply). Diamonds and Gold for example, are not worth shit – despite the fact that a depressingly large number of you out there these days seem to believe they are. They are only worth a lot of money because the market is so controlled and intertwined with violence and `third world` exploitation (think back to Cecil Rhodes et al, you’ll work it out). Diamonds are not particularly rare. It’s what’s called an artificial market, and one which DeBeers pretty much has a monopoly on. “A Diamond is Forever” means about as much as “Just do It”….. and seems that black people love diamonds more than anyone else – oh the irony….
And where did you get your information about how folks have to wait in lines to get a MRI when you live in a country that has socialized medicine, like Canada? Sounds like a common myth to me that has been passed around in the US to argue against having free health care. Additionally, it is not that simple that white=health insurance. Although I get it that you are making broad generalizations about white people, I would caution against ones that make us white folk look as though the government doesn’t screw us, too. I am pretty certain white, black, asian, indian, hispanic, and so on would like to know their families could be covered for health costs by their rich and glorious country.
This is just a single anecdote, but one I witnessed while in residency. An Cuban gentleman with advanced TB showed up at the ER at our hospital. Taking his history revealed this:
1. He was told he was very sick with TB while in Cuba.
2. He was asked if he had any family in America, and he told them that he did in our city.
3. The Cuban government paid for a plane ticket to Mexico City and then onto our city and told him to get his healthcare in America.
4. Healthcare statistics in Cuba “improve” and those in American get worse.
And, in spite of what you may hear, everyone who wants treatment in America gets it for free if they are willing to use our “socialized” medicine here – going through the local public healthcare system. It often requires long waits and the medicines you can get are often the “older” ones and thus more inexpensive…. just like any European or Canadian system.
This is just a single anecdote, but one I witnessed while in residency. An Cuban gentleman with advanced TB showed up at the ER at our hospital. Taking his history revealed this:
1. He was told he was very sick with TB while in Cuba.
2. He was asked if he had any family in America, and he told them that he did in our city.
3. The Cuban government paid for a plane ticket to Mexico City and then onto our city and told him to get his healthcare in America.
4. Healthcare statistics in Cuba “improve” and those in American get worse.
And, in spite of what you may hear, everyone who wants treatment in America gets it for free if they are willing to use our “socialized” medicine here – going through the local public healthcare system. It often requires long waits and the medicines you can get are often the “older” ones and thus more inexpensive…. just like any European or Canadian system.
Not so sure about #3, Potshot. I know a few people who revere Michael Moore’s movies. They are also squarely in the Right Kind of White People set (and one is Asian, and one in Afro-American).
I’ve never seen a lemming in church, but I haven’t been to one in years so I might be out of touch.
Anyone that thinks FDA is completely autonomous is thinking with John McCain’s brain & he’s insane…
BZZZZZZZZ.
OFF TOPIC! OFF SIDES! 20 YARD PENALTY AND LOSS OF CLOWN!
“Then again, most of you should probably start with something a little less challenging…”
Like your two comments above, I’m assuming.
Hating things of worth or value, loving socialized health care, referencing the Anglo-American Establishment… three things white people definitely love!
You’d be such a hit at a dinner party.
Since I already have to wait in lines to get my health care, even basic stuff, I’d really rather it was at least free at the end.
Also, “Sicko” covered the UK system as well.
Cool, so everyone is happy! I didn’t really get the first part about the Cuban gentleman, but I take your second point. I realise that in reality even the very poor CAN get SOME KIND of CARE, but it is MINIMAL and NOWHERE NEAR what someone with similar means would be able to obtain in the UK, or most other part of Western Europe. I’ll stick with Europe for now thanks, the USA is going down the pan rapidly due to a)Your “leaders” and b) these kinds of attitudes towards “Socialism” (again largely the fault of your “leaders” and their minions)… I’d willingly bet both my houses on the fact that 80% of Americans have NO IDEA what constitutes Socialism. It doesn’t even necessarily denote one particular system – there are many different flavours of Socialism – what the Russians has was a kind of totalitarian socialism, whereas we have a kind of democratic socialism.
Anyway, what it all boils down to really is the notion of helping your fellow man out, where possible. That’s really it, and it’s a culture which has largely not found it’s roots in American society, largely because it doesn’t benefit the all powerful corporate elite sufficiently – and they don’t need cheap healthcare, or `a helping hand` because they hold almost all the cards (and money) and most of the people hold very little. But hey, keep dreaming that “American Dream” folks – when you wake up many of you, even in the “middle classes” as they are currently called, are gonna have real sore buttholes from where Bush (and most of his predecessors, with very few exceptions) and their corporate and military cronies have been fucking you all for so long.
Still, by the time Bush and Cheney and all his minions are finished with the “War on Freedom”, I mean “Terror”, most of the bottom third of your nation won’t be needing any kind of healthcare at all, ever again…http://fortuzero.wordpress.com
He’s talking about the employer provided types of insurance, which often DO cover pre-existing conditions. But I don’t know about pregnancy, or adding her after the fact.
I keep meaning to say though that $25000 is WAY too much for a “procedure” that women did for umpteen million years with no help at all.
Bingo, another smart person “whatsername”…there is hope yet…Profit is fine, but when it comes to saving lives and healthcare in a society or community it NEEDS to be more altruistic…
It’s from South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut.
You can hear it on YouTube if you want. Search Blame Canada!
BZZZZ! OFF TOPIC! LOSS OF CLOWN! that post was too long, get your own blog and cross post.
That was WW-1
From “Disaster” to “Merely Awful” in this case I’m sure.
Wow, insightful, you black, perchance? I have 2 houses, lots of money, and wouldn’t give a fuck if I lost all of it tomorrow. Really wouldn’t. How you figure I’m white? Shit, are you psychic as well as stupid? Hang on, there’s a connection…
Let me help you…. Where did you get the impression that I “hate” the concepts of worth or value? I didn’t even realise it was possible to hate something conceptual like that. Still, you are obviously far smarter than I…Go on, go spend some cash on some shit to make yourself feel like a success. Funny guy…
I don’t `love socialised healthcare` – I just don’t see why dirty and already obscenely wealthy cunts, black beige or white should get richer from the poorest in society when it comes to healthcare. Anything else, fine – if people are empty enough that they need to buy sparkly shit to give themselves a sense of worth then that’s their business. I guess you are one of these people with sufficiently low enough self esteem that you “need” to buy sparkly shit to show off. That’s fine, you can’t help it, I know.
A seventeen-year-old girl in Glendale, CA, died because her treatment would have come at a great expense to Cigna. They are currently under investigation.
I’ve been without insurance before too. Hunger is a great motivator. Not fun of course, but I know that some of the little progress I’ve made is because I’m doing this high wire act largely without a net. Family helps a little, but the real question is; How can I help myself do better? What can I offer that will pay for the things I want and need?
In addition, preventive treatment for every american would be less expensive to taxpayers than the constant barrage of preventable ER operations whose cost are given to taxpayers anyway.
Very good points there, fortuzero! The point about the Cuban gentleman was in reference to previous points made that the Cuban healthcare system is superior to the American one. I know the American system is not the greatest. I was making a point that providing healthcare is much easier if you can export your healthcare problems to another country.
I’m Canadian, and I fully support socialized healthcare. I am also disappointed in the current trend and push towards the privatization of the Canadian healthcare system.
I’m just saying 🙂
I doubt the Jews have anything to do with the way you eat breakfast in the morning, they sure as hell didn’t sneak in and burn the toast.
Ryne,
I bet you find diamonds desirable, don’t you? Shiny lumps of compressed carbon – holy mother of fucking god, jesus shitting christ… I find their glass cutting potential more interesting and of “value” than the way they sparkle (or do you say “bling” these days? I don’t know, being white I’m not really all that down with `the street`)
Anyway, I respect your opinion. No really, I do. You are clearly one smart cookie.
If this is such a passionate interest and concern amongst people, that’s a good thing, because there is no law on the books preventing people from creating non-profit health companies. Go do it. Don’t wait for government to do it for you because they’ll only mess it up like they’ve done with just about every fluff project based on loose interpretations of the words or sentiment “support the general welfare” in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution and mirrored in other country’s documents.
Or… is it that people are too lazy and want others to do it for them, in this case the Federal government? Is it that not everyone would participate and therefore the organization would be under-funded? Last I checked U.S. charitable giving puts most country’s government-sponsored programs done in the name of charity to shame.
Medicine was privately financed worldwide and throughout history until Socialism was invented. Police and military have been public, or at least controlled by the rich and powerful through all of the same times and places. You’re just not taxing your imagination very hard.
Channeling the spirit of Nelson Muntz.
“Ha Ha!”
Last.
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Way, way OT.
50 YARD PENALTY, LOSS OF CLOWN, THIRD DOWN!
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C’mon, he’s referring to a Michael Moore movie as a documentary. He’s obviously clueless, and immersed in a mire of tanged socialist dogma, and afraid to see the real world. His arguments indicate that he wouldn’t understand the real world if it hit him over the head. You’ve gotta be some kind of rich to be that lost and still own a computer.
Hi Everybody, Sorry to be late, I was at the hospital being tested to rule out stuff.
“Stuff white people like to rule out like lung cancer.”
So far, I have had about $15,000 in CAT-Scans and other tests and my co-pay is zero. I am retired from a University job and this is great.
Anyway, my friend in England (now dead from a stroke whilst ON the operating table for something else) paid her taxes properly but did not use the UK Public Health system.
She said it was dreadful and totally taken over by people whose accents were so strong that she could not sort out the English language bits and pieces. Not being a fighter or complainer, she simple moved on to a private system, I guess because she could.
I’m just saying…
this blog is referring to a specific kind of white person. baseball watching, fried chicken loving, and hoedown dancing people are not the white people this blog targets.
you don’t get the blog then
Don’t allow yourself to get dragged in to a pissing contest with Portnoy. If you read thru the bazillion posts in this blog, you’ll discover that his racist rants are his reactionary tantrums for being outed as non-white. He hates himself (pathetic) for not being what he lauds.
He’s some type of windigo who falls in love with his sister, then ends up on the Jerry Springer show when he discovers that she’s pregnant from from their alcoholic father.
He produces, directs, and stars in his own Creature Feature.
I SO miss criminals being able to attack me when I sleep. How I long for the shores of Australia.
And to be denied hip replacement because my BMI is too high? To wait 4 months for a root canal? I can only dream.
If one is down on his luck or poor, one gets Medi-Cal or Medi-Caid.
This is not Calcutta. No one is dying for lack of medical care in the U.S., unless they willfully refuse to receive it.
No doubt all these anecdotes are powerful. On the other hand, they are also at odds with every credible statistical analysis of health care outcomes. To some degree they also lay the blame for professional incompetence or even plain ol’ bad luck at the feet of public policymakers. Public or private, you generally have to schedule appointments and do some waiting around to get non-emergency medical services. Government oversight has limited ability to change this reality, but then again private operators are also extremely limited in their ability to make all medical care instantaneous and perfectly effective.
It seems to some, when a physician overbooks his or her day and has people waiting weeks to spend hours in a waiting room and then get rushed through care, that is all well and good because it is private enterprise at work. Yet we must all bemoan the evils of bureaucracy when something comparable happens outside the U.S.A. Right now, the health insurance industry is an enormous parasite that creates zero value while extracting tremendous resources from the medical sector. Sadly, no major party candidate’s proposed reforms would remedy this. However, a shift from medicine-for-profit to medicine-for-healing would be a huge step in the right direction.
There is a time and a place to put yourself first. When a sick man is dying at your feet, do you really believe you are in that time and place? Few physicians have the disposition to turn their back on preventable human suffering. The more the industry becomes entangled in ultra-purist profit-seeking, the more it strays away from its original purpose. We should not ignore the constraints of our resources for the purpose of advancing a medical agenda. However, we should not ignore the purpose of medicine for the purpose of advancing a fiscal agenda. Only by understanding both and striking a sensible balance of interests can we expect to improve our nation’s abysmal cost-to-benefit ratio in health care expenditures.
Yes, there is medical care for the poor (lousy and substandard) and medical care for the rich (much better) in Europe.
This is an improvement over the U.S. in what way?
Unfortunately universal health care has been proved to downgrade the quality of medical care for EVERYBODY.
Then you buy your own insurance, or pay as you go.
I’ve paid as I go all of my adult life. I’m 44. I don’t even own a home. I am not wealthy.
But it is not my view that anyone owes me health care (or food, or shelter, or water, or telephone service, etc. I pay for all that, too).
I resent being told that I owe anyone else the necessities of life. I don’t owe them anything. I may give, charitably, but I rankle at it being taken from me by raw government power.
“Of all the forms of inequality, injustice in health care is the most shocking and inhumane.” Martin Luther King, Jr
“I have supported single-payer plan. I think the only way you’re going to solve these problems is you’ve got to have a national single-payer plan for everyone. I think that we’ve got to stop going with half a loaf.” Rev. Al Sharpton
The Rev. Jessie Jackson, president of the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, on Wednesday at an event in Miami said that the U.S. should implement a single-payer health care system to provide access to care for all residents, the Miami Herald reports. (10 Dec 2006)
We have a higher standard of living and a longer life span. Our health care must not be that bad.
How I long for the shores of Australia, where victims remain unarmed and subject to a criminal’s every whim. As a woman who often has small kids in tow, it sounds like paradise. Were I to be a healthy big male criminal – well, the mind boggles. It’s like a candy shop with no security guard.
When I’m older, I’ll have to move there. It would be peachy to go without a knee or hip replacement because my BMI is too high. You save on a lot of health costs by refusing to treat people who are too fat, too sick, or too old. Also, by delaying MRIs and all that, lots of patients just die! Which of course cuts costs.
The US has been so propagandized re health care that I don’t think we’ll ever get a system like they have in W Europe or Canada. I mean the guy who maintains this blog used the word “free” healthcare. Like it’s bad or something. Jeebus.
We’ll need some kind of Depression or something to wake the sheep up from this neocon nightmare. But don’t count on that. The powers that be will try to keep this ship afloat for as long as possible via rates cuts and other economic legerdemain.
We will have to learn just like Europe did (ie two world wars). We are an infantile nation, still teething. Quite immature. But who knows how long it will take till we grow up? But it will happen.
@Jeffrey
Whoa that’s actually a damn good idea! The best idea I’ve heard yet as a response to the problem. There are many many people putting time and effort into non-profit organizations to help others. This would surely be away to help in a HUGE way. You’re right though…. there would be a lot of skepticism at first and funding could be a problem initially but I bet the bigger problem would insurance companies trying to find an opportunity to sue claiming some unfair advantage. Regardless… you’re suggestion (on the surface) sounds ideal.
I already made a comment that referenced a Penn and Teller episode, interviewing a vet who talked about how desperate Canadians come to him for MRIs because they have to wait 6-9 months. Dogs can get an MRI within 24 hours in Canada. The vet felt really bad that he couldn’t help the people.
There is no “option” about helping your fellow man, when you are forced to pay insane taxes.
Little help is given by the time the bureaucracy does its absorbing.
Your neighbor may get denied her dental care because all the dentists have done their maximum hours for the year, but the fellow down the street can still get his endless psychotherapy.
That isn’t help. It’s theft and withholding of proper care. I prefer to help people as I see fit, not as the government mandates.
Making money in America is NOT a problem. I most certainly reap the benefits.
The problem is that these individuals are making extraordinary money at the expense of millions of people’s medical care. These CEOs can just as happily make $250,000 with $1 mil in stock options so an additional 500,000 people can receive adequate healthcare vs. the current $1 mil they make with$700m+ in stock options. Ya think?
“sicko” got people angry and talking for about a week, but who really bought the DVD to keep the fire going?
the “they have it in Europe” reasoning makes for a much stronger argument b/c it’s not going anywhere. anytime the healthcare debate starts, someone will point to a country where universal healthcare is working, so we’ll always be reminded about how European it is to have it.
lucky white people… the freedom to admit they want free healthcare so that they don’t have to work full-time jobs, even if it is just an option. have you any idea how long it would take for someone to call me “lazy” if i admitted such a thing! not that i’d actually stop working full-time, overtime and double time, but just having the option… wow.
way 2 go, white folks!
(p.s. it seems necessary to leave a disclaimer: if you’re taking this too seriously, that says much more about you than about me, so please continue the conversation with yourself.)
When a sick man is dying at your feet, he can not be legally turned away at any hospital in the U.S.
You’d think we were living in Bangladesh, here. Who knows someone who died in the U.S. because they were refused care because they were poor?
I know several uninsured people, not wealthy, who got care for:
non-Hodgkins’ lymphoma
leukemia
severe birth defects
congenital hip dysplasia
knee replacements
that’s just off the top of my head. They got quality care at top of the line hospitals.
MarkW:
“And, in spite of what you may hear, everyone who wants treatment in America gets it for free if they are willing to use our “socialized” medicine here…”
This is false. No one will be turned away, that is true, but unless you can prove you are within the federal poverty guidelines ($9,000/yr for an individual), you will get a bill. If you don’t pay the bill, your account will be turned over to the hospital’s collection agency, there will be a lien put on any property you own, and you will have a black mark on your credit report for seven years. The county hospital where I live currently incurs unreimbursable debt of about 150,000,000 dollars… per year. These are costs for services that Medicare, Medicaid, private insurance companies, and the patients themselves either cannot or will not pay. Some of that $150M is reimbursed through a local city tax specifically designed to support the hospital, but the remaining 80-90M is written off, while the collection department in the hospital gets busy with the liens. Hospitals try to negotiate with patients before resorting to legal action; most have departments that do nothing but offer financial counseling to patients. So a person who incurs a $10,000 hospital debt can arrange to make payments each month within their budget, but this means either they will be paying on the bill for well over a decade or they never will be able to pay the full debt back. In the meantime, the hospital simply has to eat the cost. Hospitals try to compensate for this by encouraging and investing in surgical procedures, such as joint replacement or cardiovascular surgeries, that have an exhorbitant reimbursement rate. The average bariatric surgery, for example, will be reimbursed to the hospital at four times higher than what the surgery actually cost.
Healthcare is one topic that I don’t mind seeing in WP. Good for them to champion socialized medicine. So what if they have self-serving reasons? We’ll never have the system that the UK and Canada have, given how our system was born. We can fashion our own style of socialized medicine. If done correctly, we can keep the good aspects we already have, avoid whatever pitfalls we see in the NHS, and probably make our system cost effective.
how about injustice in food quality and amount? injustice in housing quality and amount? injustice in open space? injustice in clothing? injustice in transportation?
I am surprised we are responsible for taking care of ourselves at all any more. We are like babies.
Granted, O.T…but what’s up with your computer, you seem to have a CAPS problem. Compensating for senseless content? Why are you talking (American) football shit at me you peon?
Referring to your second `point` below, where you mention a `tangle of socialist dogma` would you like to explain what you mean, I don’t understand. Socialism, Facism, Fabianism….they’re all little more than forms of colectivism, which is ALL bad IMO.
Who referred to “Sicko” as a documentary? You’ve lost me. Perhaps it was all in your tiny mind. “Some kind of rich” – again, means nothing to me. There’s a reason I have two houses, a good job, and a complete contempt for any kind of theology or organised religion, and it’s because I am FAR from lost, and FAR from clueless. I see the real world every day. I have travelled more miles than you can count (literally I suspect) and you, on the other hand, seem to have no insight into anything, going by the absolute absence of any kind of rebuttal to any of my arguments.
I could really do with gems like yourself commenting on fortuzero.wordpress.org – pop on over and bring your special friends.
Collectivism, before anyone else helpfully points it out. 😉
Free HEALTH CARE?! That’s just going way too far. Why don’t we all just move to Cuba.
I’m already astonished at the commie, socialist ideals that have brought FREE HIGHWAYS to the US. Really, if you want a road, don’t ask me to pay for it, build it yourself. Not to mention all the free police (we’re paying for way more per capita than most countries)… I mean, we have the right to bear arms for a reason right? And free prisons… why am I paying for the accommodation of criminals? If they really want to go to prison, they should damn well get a job and pay for it themselves. Free military, free wars… the list is endless. Hell, having a government to tell me what to do at ALL is way too socialist for me… who do they think they are?
Move to Canada? Why bother, with all these basic necessities ridiculously supported by the government, we’re practically there already.
Actually, I have to admit that I’m a Canadian so I can clarify some things people seem confused about.
1. Have you guys ever been to Europe? Health care works great in the UK. My friend had alcohol poisoning once, and she was treated instantly at no cost… ambulance ride and all. Didn’t even ask to see ID.
2. Health care in Canada is not free, it is simply government run and subsidized. If you earn under a certain amount, you fill out a little form and you don’t have to pay. Otherwise you have to pay your health insurance just like in the US. The main difference is that since it’s government run, nobody’s trying to turn a profit, so nobody gets turned away when they’re sick. It works great.
3. Six month waits? I’ve only ever had to sit in the waiting room for an hour or two max.
4. It’s not just that health care in the US is privatized, it also COSTS astronomically more for some reason. A woman in Canada had octuplets, and for whatever reason they decided it was necessary to fly her to the US for treatment (most Canadians live within like 50 miles of the border). The bill was about 15 times higher than it would have been in Canada (we could have had a new ferry!). Perhaps all those pharmaceuticals companies aren’t such a godsend after all. Unless you could get the cost of health care down, it’s probably true that the US can’t have a system like in Canada… there’s no way it would be affordable.
Valid concerns regarding misallocation of public funding by government bureaucrats but I still stick with our (European system) by and large being better for more people across all social stratas. You can still go private if you want, if you have enough money, knock yourself out, so to speak.
ALCOHOL POISONING???
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If you have 2 houses and lots of money and would gladly give it up then I suggest that you give it all to charity before telling everyone else how to spend theirs.
I said it once and I’ll say it again.
It is NOT charity to demand money at gunpoint (taxation) from one person you don’t know to give it (minus paychecks for intervening bureaucrats) to another person you don’t know.
That is a truth you seem unwilling to see.
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Right on potshot.
Oh and Nick, you’re a bit dense eh? How much do you think you pay for your for profit health care?
Google it and educate yourself. I hate it when Right wingers always prove they truly are as stupid as they seem. It’s so cliche.
Eh?
No one pays for health care here in Canada. The only thing that is not free are prescription drugs and dental care, and most people have coverage for both (except, unfortunately, dental care, which is not covered for poor adults).
By the way, imagine if we had blogs out there that got book deals for debating legitimate policy issues which effect real people, instead of Gen Y snark-n-irony? Which is basically what this blog is. Which is okay, I guess. I’m here, right?
I mean, I’m Gen X and snark is our meat and potatos. But, you know, it gets damn old after awhile. You can be funny and be a social critic. Think Carlin and Hicks. Funny guys with something real and tangible to say. All we get from the younger crowd is snark and cell phones–and that’s not funny or productive at all. It’s, well, kinda soul-deflating.
If you want funny, check out Carlin’s riff on the Pyramid of the Hopeless. Now that’s real humor.
But maybe I just don’t get it, right?
Man oh man….Do yourself a favour, Tom. Actually make that two. Firstly, you should stop linking your blog to your spurious pointless and ignorant comments. WHERE THE FUCK did you come up with the alias “The Impaler”? Working on the assumption that the obese fucker in the avatar is your good self, I just don’t get it. Maybe the Consumer, the Crusher, but Impaler? Are you into Javelin throwing? Archery? C’mon, do tell. Maybe it’s your likeness to Vlad, oh no, he was a rather slender man. Maybe you were right, I am lost, but only as to where the fuck you got that dumbass name from.
It’s the kind of alias that only a true fucking idiot gives himself – “Mike the Magnificent” “Gary the Great” Ah, that’d be it then.
Secondly – actually this is more of a favour to me and the rest of the ” lost “socialists” ” out here, do please explain the nature of “the real world”, in the timeless words of “Tom the Impaler”…
“Compensating for senseless content?”
It’s a humor website. Senseless content is the order of the day. Needlessly insulting, hostile, and overly analytical comments are truly out of place here.
“they’re all little more than forms of colectivism, which is ALL bad IMO”
So collectivism is bad, but collectivism in health care is magically good? you’re disassembling your own arguments now.
“Who referred to “Sicko” as a documentary?”
I dunno, you’re citing a movie as a source of information so it seems you’re accepting the information as fact. It was initially marketed as a documentary, so I assumed you were misled. Apparently you’re quite aware that it’s propaganda, and seem content to spread its lies.
“pop on over and bring your special friends”
I looked over your site. you worry too much about things that don’t matter, and about which I can do nothing. It’s also semi incoherent most of the time. You should read this site more if only for writing tips
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There are no second opinions under the Canadian system.
Give it a rest.
Spot on Burpy. Carlin is funny. Many a true word spoken in jest. Hicks was similar, although slightly less consistently sharp, arguably.
Now, now, ad hominem attacks don’t point to the man of genius you want to be seen as. They point to a bitter 13 year old out late on daddy’s computer.
I think you missed the mark a little here. Sure, white people love things that are done in Europe, and we do like being able to freelance or whatever without worrying about health care. However, as a white person who’s been without health insurance for two years I have to say the real reason I want socialized healthcare is so that I can go see a doctor and stop worrying about what financial straits I’ll be in if I fall and break something. To say that white people have access to the best hospitals and healthcare is pretty absurd, the problem of uninsured adults is extremely widespread in the US.
I’m just saying, I’m white and I can’t afford to get my teeth cleaned. Usually I think this blog is clever, though!
Wow! That does sound great, you’ve convinced me. I’m roping together a couple of inner-tubes right now so I can float on over and get me some of that excellent health care.
Yeah, and how much did your acquaintances have to pay afterward?
Probably a lot. A real lot.
Oh how we love irony…what would Che think?
You’re a sick bastard. Hope you have a crappy life
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Another excellent post. Looking forward to the book.
no second opinions in canada? look you ignorant fucking asshole we can go to as many doctors as we want to get differing opinions, one opinion is you are a fucking idiot.
cosigning tom on this one.
Actually the Canadian Health Care system is NOT socialized medicine. They use a single payer system. In Great Britain where they have socialized medicine, the hospitals are owned by the govenrment and the doctors are employees of the government.
In single payer, the the delivery system is still private, but there’s only one payer, the government. The hospitals and doctors are not employed by the government. It would act just like Medicare, thats an example of a single payer system. In single payer, you can choose your own doctor no HMO or government will say who you have to go to. It basically cuts out the middle man in gouging insurance companies that will do anything to do all they can to evade giving quality coverage.
Under single payer, there’s less overhead paper work because doctors wont be dealing hundreds of policies! That’ll save a ton of money.
The U.S. spends a massive amount of money per person than Canada does in exchange for shoddy coverage, confusing policies, and the poor losing out. The U.S. system costs more overall to the tax payer than the Canadian system. Think about it. A person in the U.S. is sick and puts off going to the doctor because she/he doesn’t can’t afford it because of their crappy policy and then it gets worse an they eventually end in the emergency room! Under single payer people will not be reluctant to see their primary doctor based on inability to pay. Also take into account all those people who dont have any coverage at all. Many of these people end up in the emergency room and they most likely won’t be able to pay. Guess who gets to pick up the tab? The American tax payer. Under single payer, this won’t be as much as a problem.
For those who say, “oh we’ll have to go through long wait lines.” Any surgery or high risk/priority needs will be met as soon as possible. In 2005, per-capita spending for health care in the U.S. was US $6,401; in Canada, US $3,326. The Canadians get quality healthcare and NOONE is left behind and spend less. The U.S. on the other hand spends almost double what Canada does except with shoddy coverage.
It’s clear, the U.S. needs government funded, privately administered single payer health care.
Physicians for a National Health Program
http://www.pnhp.org/
The Case for Single Payer
http://cthealth.server101.com/the_case_for_universal_health_care_in_the_united_states.htm
getting your teeth cleaned is like 50 bucks
I’m quite sure there are a great many things which you and many others can alone do little about, Tom. That doesn’t mean those things should not be discussed. However that’s not really the point. The blog to which I directed you is largely a collection of reprints, or just plagarised from other peoples writings. The rest of it is just spewing streams of consciousness…. It has been up all of a month, and has no agenda or structure at all. I have far too many other genuinely important things to do with my time, like care for my children and maintain business and property. I don’t really _do_ conventional structure – but I assure you there is method in my madness…
You got it – again maybe this may seem confusing to you (not meaning to be rude, but as you say, some of my logic seems a little unusual and hard to follow), but I believe collectivism is BAD when governments use it as a blanket model for society, for making laws, education and so forth, but GOOD when it comes to welfare/healthcare services, ensuring on the lowest fundamental level that the group takes care of all individuals within. This is less to do with Collectivism and more to do with simpy being decent human beings, on a fundamental live or die level. The very base level. Once you get onto the material, the uneccesary layers of life then capitalism is fair game, but caring for people in your society should not be done for profit, or at least minimal, IMO. I believe we CAN have our cake and eat it, as the saying goes.
Here’s a question for you – do you believe the U.S.A has a Facist system in place currently? Do you believe the UK/Europe has a Socialist system? Is that the same as Communist? Is our socialism the same as Russias?
As for the personal digs I apologise – childish and uneccesary. I enjoy an academic argument, but got a little carried away. I’m sure if I put my mug on an avatar you would equally have a field day, if you were so inclined…
Nevertheless, it has been fun to pass the last hour with you!
I note from your blog that you have a soft spot for caffeine (as do all white people, apparently – much like blacks with crack…) Do you grind your own beans? Having just bought an espresso machine, I am looking to moving onto the `next level`… did you go for burr or blade? Burr would seem better (more consistent grind, longer life)…
Um, I’m Canadian, and yes you DO have to pay for health care. You pay according to your income (so most students and young folk pay nothing, and it is free.) Most people just ignore it and don’t pay the bills for their health care, but most people pay for health care in Canada. The difference is that it’s cheap, and even if you haven’t paid your bill in months you can still get medical care regardless.
man, your points aside, trying to read your writing is like having an elephant shit in my eyes.
very disconcerting.
Methinks someone here is in need of a lobotomy.
More like $150, dude. Where you been?
Yes, calling someone “a jew” when it is in no way relevant to the discussion, except in your own mind, IS anti-semitic. But then you already knew that, you are just too rude to care.
Go ahead, turd, have the last word. Over and out.
The issue is not socialized medicine. That’s what they have in the UK, and everyone agrees it sucks. The issue is national health insurance. As it is now, insurance companies cherry pick the healthiest people, since (a) no company covers enough people to spread the risk, and (b) they like very big profits. Also, please don’t be so knee-jerk about the word “socialized”. White Republicans are fine with socialized defense, tax-payer subsidized agriculture and oil, etc. And especially, socialized support of the high rollers at Bear Stearns. I mean, WTF??
Likewise….
I’m figuring you’re white? I’m not. You just love all of the stuff that white people do. I make no assumptions as to anything about you, other than the fact that you really jones on the things that white people love.
Namely:
1.) Railing against “wealth” and “value” while professing to be “wealthy.” (Since this is the internet it is doubtful that you are, and even if you were, no one would care.)
2.) Your obvious support for socialized health care, otherwise you wouldn’t be here.
3.) Your frequent use of f*ck and its variations.
4.) Your desire to “debate” (poorly, and without any tact or class) in a comment thread at what is one of the best tongue-in-cheek sites in existence.
Again I say it: You would be the Elvis Presley of a dinner party.
I am so goddam tired of seeing your racist crap on this site. Do us all a favor and move on already. Fuck’s sake.
Wow!!! A new comment record!!!
No doubt the fact that the blogger is himself Canadian really rankles a lot of US White People. His goofing on you hit a little too close to the bone, I take it.
I for one would like the US to adopt some type of national health insurance system that avoids the government-run hospitals of the UK and avoid the limits on what can be privately spent on healthcare, like the Canadian system has… or had or whatever they have now.
I grind the beans at the market, haven’t got the spare $60 for a burr grinder yet, inflation has made things tough, but I like the DeLonghi espresso machine I bought just fine 🙂
i don’t think people who do not have children support public schools, because why would you want to pay for something (in your taxes) that you don’t benefit from?
i think you missed it with this one..(i love all your other posts though!)
the socialized health care provided in European countries isn’t perfect, but what is? it’s better than being covered by a private health insurance, and hoping to GOD whatever you have getting done will be covered by your plan (and not just incredible surgeries, the “experimental” procedures/treatments, but how about when you can and can’t make a simple check up appointment with your dentist or gyno or internist, because it isn’t “past a certain date” for when it will be covered? or how about having to get taken to YOUR hospital, which is in YOUR plan, and getting charged $750 for the ambulance, because they just HAPPENED to dispatch the private bus? and then not being able to get refunded…)
and we don’t, in this country, have access to the best doctors, even if you’re covered. if your plan isn’t “pick your own”, then you go where you’ll get covered.
and you still have to wait here for care, even if you’re insured. i’ve waited almost 2 hours for a regular check up once at my gyno, who’s in an affluent neighbourhood, not a clinic. and let’s not even begin about getting an appointment…you’d think these doctors are rockstars or something, meanwhile it’s ME that’s paying for the services.
i’m glad i’m not in horrible health/have a devastating disease, while living in this country, because even those with the insurance can easily get fucked.
I appreciate Mary lying. Mary thinks that most people are polite, and won’t call her a liar. She is right. Mary is still a liar.
Anyone who has interacted with American Health Care and had to pay it themselves would never, ever, have the views this lying ‘woman’, assuming it is a woman, has.
I paid 2000+ dollars for eight stiches. And it goes up from there. No one who has looked at the insane prices of American Health Care would talk like this.
Mary, you are a liar.
Mary, would you please stop spamming your lies?
I personally know a person in America, who had insurance, who has permanent injuries and pain because of mis-set bones.
She had insurance. She also had I Am Better Than You doctors, who didn’t much care if they killed people.
Actually the Canadian Health Care system is NOT socialized medicine. They use a single payer system. In Great Britain where they have socialized medicine, the hospitals are owned by the govenrment and the doctors are employees of the government.
In single payer, the the delivery system is still private, but there’s only one payer, the government. The hospitals and doctors are not employed by the government. It would act just like Medicare, that’s an example of a single payer system. In single payer, you can choose your own doctor no HMO or government will say who you have to go to. It basically cuts out the middle man in gouging insurance companies that will do anything to do all they can to evade giving quality coverage.
Under single payer, there’s less overhead paper work because doctors wont be dealing hundreds of policies! That’ll save a ton of money.
The U.S. spends a massive amount of money per person than Canada does in exchange for shoddy coverage, confusing policies, and the poor losing out. The U.S. system costs more overall to the tax payer than the Canadian system. Think about it. A person in the U.S. is sick and puts off going to the doctor because she/he doesn’t can’t afford it because of their crappy policy and then it gets worse an they eventually end in the emergency room! Under single payer people will not be reluctant to see their primary doctor based on inability to pay. Also take into account all those people who dont have any coverage at all. Many of these people end up in the emergency room and they most likely won’t be able to pay. Guess who gets to pick up the tab? The American tax payer. Under single payer, this won’t be as much as a problem.
For those who say, “oh we’ll have to go through long wait lines.” Any surgery or high risk/priority needs will be met as soon as possible. In 2005, per-capita spending for health care in the U.S. was US $6,401; in Canada, US $3,326. The Canadians get quality healthcare and NOONE is left behind and spend less. The U.S. on the other hand spends almost double what Canada does except with shoddy coverage.
It’s clear, the U.S. needs publicly funded, privately administered single payer health care.
Physicians for a National Health Program
http://www.pnhp.org/
The Case for Single Payer
http://cthealth.server101.com/the_case_for_universal_health_care_in_the_united_states.htm
So tell me, what is the difference between America and those countries which have Universal Healthcare?
In New Zealand, everyone, rich or poor, is entitled to free hip replacements, cataract removals, cancer treatment, any sort of necessary hospital treatment at all, and some elective things. You pay a small proportion of the cost of medicines, up to a limit, above which they are free. If you are poor, medicines are totally free. If you don’t want to wait, and can afford it, you can pay to get hospital work done privately. You can also have health insurance if you want to pay for that, so you can get anything done privately.
Of course, if you are very fat, a hip-replacement would be a bit of a waste of time, but that’s up to you if you pay for it. If you are hugely obese I think most responsible doctors would want to see you lose weight before being operated on.
There is NO means testing to get things done free, but you may have to wait a few months for non-urgent treatment. I had to wait about three months for a tubal ligation, for instance. No big hassle.
If I was in an accident and needed hospitalisation, I would not have to wait (obviously), and there would be no bill at the end. No matter how rich I was.
If I were to fall into a coma for years my relatives would not be beggared paying for my upkeep, it would be free and adequate. Not luxurious, but I don’t think I’d be noticing the lack of plush carpets, soft lighting, and gourmet meals.
Contrary to what the original post suggests, if a foreigner was admitted to hospital here, a large bill WOULD be presented at the end of his stay in hospital. So remember to get health insurance if you are travelling.
Dental work for adults is not included in this, we have to pay once we have left school. In England, dental work IS included, I understand. But again, you can pay to have it done privately if you want. I’m not totally sure of the system in Australia, I think it differs slightly from state to state, but in essence it is much the same as we have.
And since when are people allowed to attack you in your sleep in Australia? I’m not that fond of the place, but I really do think these things happen more often in America, and they’re not ALLOWED to happen anywhere at all that I can think of.
Socialised Medicine = The efficiency of the Postal Service with the compassion of the IRS.
For the drooling masses crying for “FREE” medical care. Ask yourselves this question.
Why would the same govt that created Medicare + Medicaid, two monumental failures without a doubt, be able to do a 180 and create a “FREE” nationalized healthcare system that will not be over burden, mismanaged, ripe with corruption and a budget nightmare? I guess as long as the masses pocket the bill and you can smile like total ignorant jackasses while sipping wine and touting that America has “joined” the rest of europe all will be ok.
The issue of “FREE” healthcare speaks volumes about the undeniable stupidity of many Americans. I have debated this with many citizens and one undeniable fact is obivious, you dont know what the F$#k you are talking about. Make decisions based on logic and reason, not on the emotional rollercoaster politicians stir up in your small uneducated minds.
My dear, YOU are forced to pay insane taxes to fund G.W. Bush’s little foray into Iraq. I know what I’d rather my taxes were spent on.
White people apparently like to make off-topic posts to blogs.
But seriously, white people possess a great talent for ironic self-regard. We have the ability to stand back from ourselves just enough to observe ourselves and then make fun of ourselves, for instance, in “Family Guy” and “Stuff White People Like.” It’s not the fault of this blog, but this ingenious parody of anthropology and travel guides will not change the privileged status of white people in this country. I don’t suppose any blog on its own could pull that off, even if it were the blogger’s intent. But fully owning the fact that “white” is as much as a racial category, filled with race-specific content, is a step in the right direction.
Victor Kulkosky
http://outofmymindblog.wordpress.com
You’ve never been out of America have you?
In your mind you are transporting all of those armed criminals that you have in the USA over to Australia, and pitting the poor unarmed populace against them, aren’t you?
Sorry, criminals aren’t allowed guns in Australia either. Which is not to say that some of them don’t HAVE guns, but in general there are just many fewer guns. And much less gun crime than there is in America.
We who live in countries where guns are not allowed are generally quite nervous going to America because of all the guns you have there.
Too true, too true…
As a European, I think it is more important to get a proper health care system than a free one…..
Health systems are never free, they are been paid for somehow. Unfortunately in general a part time job doesn’t pay all the other bills even with a free health care system…
go to http://www.snowman130.wordpress.com
I am white…almost tragically so, but this is not something I’m keen on. However, freelance anything DOES sound good!
Also, I think Michael Moore is an idiot, so if I accidently like something he likes, I’d probably carefully re-examine my thoughts.
Honestly, I’m a bit suprised by the premise. I figure the only white people that already have good healthcare that would be interested in free universal health care would be rich white people running for office!
A bit long-winded, but an erudite and cogent criticism of this once funny site.
Yeah, pioneering in suburbia – how fucking rugged.
If it weren’t for white people, you wouldn’t be using a computer or the internet, jackass. And FYI, “Hindi” IS a language. So shut up, you brown asshole.
The writers of this blog should really rethink the title, because all of topics that have been written about on here are things that LIBERAL white people like. Conservative white people do not want socialized health care or gay friends. So, yeah, this blog should be called “Things That Liberals Like.” Because I certainly do not want socialized health care or gay friends.
The doctors paid out their ass and endured 8 years of education and 4 years of internship and residency in an incredibly competitive and demanding environment – let ’em get their money. It’s the insurance companies that laugh all the way to the bank with some dead cancer patient’s insurance premiums because the cancer was pre-existing or the recommended treatment wasn’t covered. I don’t know how those people sleep at night.
What are you 12? YOU DO NOT PAY FOR HEALTH CARE in Canada. Jesus, did you fall off a freaking truck and hurt your head?
We DO NOT have a system whereby those with money pay and those without get nothing. It is simply not true.
I can’t believe I have to explain the basics to a so-called student.
And by the way, I am a single woman in my 50s, living in a reasonably large city, and I am so scared of the nasty criminals that I have never locked my house at night in my life. It’s a terrible way to live, isn’t it.
Amen, yo’mama. Besides, socialized healthcare doesn’t even have to mean healthcare provided by the government. In Japan, which has a socialized system and where I lived for several years, only the insurance was socialized; the doctors and hospitals were private. The pricing of all treatment is standardized, so the doctors compete solely on quality of service. You can often go in to the specialist of your choice and receive treatment within an hour of arriving.
The ignorant provincial rednecks extolling the virtues of the world’s most expensive and ethically reprehensible healthcare system have just drunk way too much of the profiteering right wing kool aid.
Oh, so those 20 million people should just die and get out of the way so the rest of us with employer-provided healthcare can receive treatment? You go tell that to their faces, asshole.
You are a moron their is no such thing as free healthcare. Nothing in life is free some one always has to pay for it you just don’t want to have to be responsible for your own life.
Ask yourself this, why the hell should some one else have to pay for your Healthcare?
And to the other people who don’t get this a joke website please stop the “Hey all White People aren’t the same” B.S. If racist humor wasn’t funny Dave Chapelle wouldn’t be famous.
Bravo. Well said, Demonweed.
White people also lack a sense of humor.
Except for those of us who do, of course.
Dudes, you’re not the only ones that would loooove some free health care. Or even the mere thought of it. Trust me!
First of all, nothing is free. People in Sweden are taxed more than any American would imagine.
Secondly, my spouse is Swedish and I didn’t get free anything when I went to the city clinic w/ an excruiciating bladder infection and waited 4 hours for the doctor to tell me so. Then she prescribed antibiotics that weren’t cheap.
Yes, we need better health care in the US, that’s a no brainer, but, when you’re out of the US, or at least in Sweden as an American, you pay a lot.
I do like Michael Moore films, though…they show how crappy everything can be in the US. I like the fact that I live somewhere where a person like Michael Moore could express his point of view w/o being exiled or jailed even more.
I’ve been to Europe. Guiness tastes better in Ireland. And it cures what ails you.
Don’t say or write “a myriad of…”; simply say “myriad…”. White people prefer myriad to be used correctly.
Crisp and refreshing, like crackers?
The Postal Service is extremely efficient about sending a letter from point a to point b I don’t know about parcels or Priority documents but this whole thing about snail mail is a misnomer for the most part.
But I get your point. Like Reagan lampooned, ‘I’m from the government & I’m Here to help.’ for big laughs as a way of telling the little people not to expect anything in exchange from the government for your hard earned taxes while ramping up corporate welfare & gutting every union he could sic his spineless minions on.
Maybe he should implemented accountability rather than cutting & running in utter surrender special interests.
I say: get the Gerrys on the other side of the fence and give this country a war worth supporting.
White people just don’t understand satire.
BRILLIANT!
ew. you’re a republican. disgusting. unsubscribed.
good luck with that book deal. grody republican.
you should start a blog. i’m in the market for one that’s funny and not just politically assy like this one suddenly is.
Uhhh…I live in a country with socialized health care and THIS SHIT DOESN’T HAPPEN
Honest. Stop making things up.
not to mention that they had to wait until they were sick and dying at someone’s feet to get care. the outcome when you wait until your disease is at its worst is not as good as if you catch it and treat it early. and it costs *all of us* a lot of money to treat the people who use the e.r. as primary care, not that money should be the primary concern ever at all on this issue.
I am Jack’s raging temper.
There aren’t? We go where ever we want for any treatment…second opinions, fuck it, even 5th opinions. You simply call another doctor and book an appointment.
prep school? I hope you are there on scholarship; if not, you should show the headmaster this paragraph and demand your money back. moron.
but i owed you the right to drop bombs on iraqis, right? ’cause i sure as shit am paying for that, as will my grandchildren.
and the government owed you and your children 13 years of education, and the roads you drive your SUV on, presumably.
so many disgusting republicans pat themselves on the back as “self made,” withholding due credit from the parents and teachers who helped them become so self-congratulatory. it’s truly appalling to behold.
What you fail to remember is things like the Military and prisons are constitutional and the police come from the state not the federal gov.
Healthcare is not in the constitution and therfore the federal gov. has no business being involved in it. It would be up to the state.
And it’s good to know the people in the UK’s taxes are being used to pay for morons that try to drink themselves to death. We could use taxes to make beer “free” as well that way we have the other side covered.
I have never had to wait for more the 20 minutes, so have fun with your 2 hours.
The content on this blog is like, not funny. I once thought it would be funny, but it keeps coming up a bit lame. Uncreative, sort of lazy if you will. What is funny about free anything?
Wow, nothing like being Comment #750…what’s it like to have so many people commenting on your blog. Oh…popularity, I’m sure, has its drawbacks.
http://www.immaculateconception.wordpress.com
Our standard of living is middling in spite of having the highest GDP per capita. Life span and infant mortality rates are shamefully bad for an advanced society like ours. Go ahead google it and see for yourself. Yes, we have some of the best medical technology in the world, but it is not available for the regular working stiffs out there.
You know, a lot of those arguing in favor of leaving the system as is remind me of the poor non-slave owning southerners in favor of secession from the union giving rise to the Civil War. They are being duped by the insurance lobby now and were duped by the rich powerful slaveowners back then. The status quo insurance industry that robs us blind wants you to think that all this great healthcare, which many can’t afford anyway, is the best there is and socializing insurance will make care worse and more expensive. Rich slaveowners convinced the southern dirt farmers (who did most of the dying in the Civil War while the slaveowners stayed home) that keeping blacks subjugated frees opportunities for the white man to someday become a rich slaveowner himself. I really feel sorry for the people who actually believe that ours is the best system there is.
this blog cracks me up every time i read it and i’m as white as it gets
http://aaronnovak.com/
I have to say, there may be a point there.
It does seem to me that corruption is as rife in America as it is in many third world “emerging” nations.
I think it is a cultural thing. The nation is built on the concept of “grab what you can and the devil take the hindmost” so really it is too much to expect them to be capable of administering anything at all if there is no profit in it.
Oh well, at least we don’t have to live there.
This might be redundant because I started reading the comments to make sure I was not being redundant and I got annoyed. Such is life. Anyway, for the record, Absinthe is now LEGAL in the US. White people like to keep up with what is and what is not allowed in the realm of adult beverages.
Now I started reading from the bottom up and I had the same problem. Geez. White people get annoyed. And I swear it said somewhere in a description of the blog – middle class, liberal, white people…but hey, I could be wrong.
Let’s refresh – absinthe, legal.
the end.
Must have been painful, I hope there’s an ointment for that.
I was addressing zionismkills, jackass.
Thanks for playing.
Yeah you have the right to the “Pursuit” of happiness not the right to “Be” happy, and it might be “capitalist garbage” but if you live in a “capitalist” country you might want to get with the program or find some place that is more to your liking.
Ayn Rand said it best when she called you all “Looters”.
Apparently the stuff you have in the USA is sans worms or something and therefore & thusly not authentic Absinthe but a cheap knock-off.
white people want their worms it seems.
You need to know as an American stopping in at an ugent care facility in BC, CA costs $650. just to see the DR
In fact this is wrong Frank. I have only moved to the US in 2001 after 51 years in Canada and there are lots of options for a ‘2nd opinion’ in the Canadian health care system. I have waited much longer here and actually have recently calculated my taxes and would argue that after my co pays an health care premiums I pay a lot more overall here than I have ever paid in Canada, even after calculating employers health tax.
Sorry but you are wrong.
We already have Rush Limbaugh 🙂
PeachHipGirl,
I pay $80 per month health care for myself and one dependent. Interestingly, I didn’t need Google for that.
What your simple, good little government subject mind can’t process is…I don’t care if I’m paying $800 per month. I DON”T THE GOVERNMENT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MY HEALTHCARE. This is because I believe, like our founding fathers, in a thing called “liberty.”
You should definitely look into the concept and consider the values it holds.
My point was that socialized (federalized, whatever) medicine is one step further away from liberty. I have principles. One of my principles is that I’d rather be personally responsible for my own health care. Another principle of mine is that Government is inherently inefficient, which in this case the reality is that they will give me inferior coverage at an increased cost.
I’m not a “right winger.” I’m a libertarian (I’ll wait while you look it up), which means that I believe in individuality and freedom from governance whenever possible. This ideology makes my choices easy. If it involves more government, I’m against it. I’d rather make my own way, thanks.
This of course unless it involves interstate highways and border defense.
If you don’t want to be free from government oversight of every possible aspect of your life, fine. Why belittle those that want to be self-reliant though? Are you that scared of actual freedom?
Something tells me you wouldn’t even know what that is anyway. Sad.
Nice use of “eh” by the way.
Judging by your pointed evaluation of my intelligence, I suppose you feel I am in need of more government indoctornation (also referred to as “public education.”)
Speaking of education, I highly recommend you read a little book called “The Communist Manifesto” by the lovely Karl Marx.
In it, he lists the “10 planks of the Communist Manifesto.”
Here’s where it gets interesting:
10. Free education for all children in public schools.
Why do think Marx saw public education as such an important step to his communist society?
Glad you asked. If the government has a hand in educating children, they can indoctornate them any way they seem fit, and with little to no consequence. That way, they can teach them that:
1) they live in a democracy (they don’t)
2) they have a “right to vote” for the president (they don’t)
3) they have a “right” to socialist entitlement programs (they don’t)
4) collectivism is fun!
5) the constitution is a “living document”, open to interpretation of the highly government-educated intellectuals…you know…the RIGHT kind of white people.
If you’d like to further research Marx’s list, you may refer to Al Gore’s internet.
I’ll leave you to ponder this “inconvenient truth.”
Oh, and global warming is not man-made. The sun creates natural cycles of warming and cooling, not to mention the globe has actually been cooling since 1998.
Link:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/04/05/astounding-headline-global-temperatures-decrease
That is all.
What’s funny is its, like totally not free, like it actually costs money, and like people will have to pay for it. Like, did you totally think Hitlary would take the like, $109 million she’s made since Bill like, left political office to subsidize it? And like, did you think that would foot the bill for covering every like, U.S. citizen?
Like, totally lame.
Michael,
I’d be extremely interested to hear you explain how this country would be able to avoid assigning the defense of our country to the Federal Government. Not because I’m being a smart ass, but because I’m always on the look out to reduce the Federal Government’s role in my life.
Allow me to slightly correct you on something. SOME white Republicans are fine with tax-payer subsidized agriculture and oil. MOST are sickened by it, and view it as the end of the party. Which is why many are registering as Libertarians. At which point we realize that even the Libertarian party is far from perfect and needs much work to become politically relevant.
I hate to change the tone of this reply, but man, where on EARTH do you get the idea of “socialized support of the high rollers at Bear Stearns?” Did you even follow this story and read the particulars or do you get your news from Jon Stewart???
Peach,
When did you Canucks get money trees?
Oh they haven’t invented those yet?
Hmmm…Maybe taxpayers pay for “free” healthcare then you mental midget.
first
You’re right.
White politicians support it because they want NON-WHITE votes.
“Vlad the Impaler”
Google it for chrissakes.
He’s a White hero, and a hero of Western Civilization. I guess liberal punks know more about Cesar Chavez and Che Guevara.
typical idiots.
“Collectivism is a term used by Ayn Rand (Alisa Rosenbaum) and it ridicules the Jews who are by far the most collectivist group in America.
I’m White and I love my life. I have blue eyes too!!!! Do any of the non-Whites here realize how many compliments blue-eyed people get in life? It’s great!!
You’re a homosexual and you’re still here? This is a blog about Whites, not people who hate them.
Vlad: That comment is utterly senseless.
Man, what a great blog. Kudos to you kind sirs, kudos to you.
everything zionismkills says is factual also so paranoid is a poor choice of word. Thanks.
Wow, some people get so pissed. I think this blog is so clever and witty. And, though, I can’t speak to all white people’s likes…I am white and you usually hit the nail on the head about what my “white people” friends like! ha ha ha…keep blogging!
You’re an idiot, don’t read, or have ADD
Some else referred to David Brooks as a “White liberal”. All I did was say he was a Jew and a liberal. It’s more accurate. Sorry you can’t handle something so simple.
JEWS LOVE ABORTION!!!!!!!!!!
There really is no denying how much effort they have put into the activism for it.
Thanks for playing.
Your quarter is up and it’s GAME OVER!
“The fact that it’s available in Canada isn’t really that impressive, but it does contribute to their willingness to threaten to move there.”
LoL . . . Clander, you are way too much 🙂
The NHS is awesome! I just moved back to the States from the UK. Yes, socialised medicine really works. It works just as well as the system in the States. It’s also very free. I love the way republicans like to shoot it down. Then telling them you lived with the NHS and it works better than the US system. They tend to shut up because they start to feel very thick due to your superior knowledge.
You DO get to choose the doctor and you DON’T have to wait weeks to see him or her. I was usually able to get into the surgery (doctor’s office) within a day or two. The best part is that whatever prescription you get, it will cost around $15.
In the UK, most people pay comparable income taxes and the NHS is paid for from the tax base. Here in the US, taxes go to expensive wars and welfare for large corporations. The worst part about the tax hole is that most States don’t even have enough money to fix roads. US roads look and feel like third world roads. Pathetic!!
Hello, I’ve made a number of comments on this post addressing the drooling Republican slave-animals.
I would like one of the cowardly sub-humans to get up on his hind legs and address them.
Not that they will. They know better than to spew feces at someone who won’t treat them better than they deserve.
American Health Care forces paying customers to wait hours for EM care, and days and weeks for tests. As both my grandfather experienced as he was dying of lung cancer, and I experienced for stiches.
American Health Care is a Government Enforced Cartel catering to the special interests of wealthy Hospital Industry players. Obama, a current presidential candidate, made his bones in Chicago working with Hospital PACs. His wife is employed by a PAC… I mean hospital, for the purpose of incurring his favour.
American Health Care is insanely expensive, I paid over 2000 dollars for eight stiches for which I waited more than four hours. I could have done better myself. And will in the future. But better than first aid administered by an intelligent but untaught person is a little bit to much to expect, isn’t it?
I know a woman who will be in pain the rest of her life because of mis-set bones. This happened in an American Hospital, and she was insured. She isn’t getting any money for this, because in ‘sue-happy’ America, patients can SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN. That’s the real world, you delusional animals. That is all, animals.
I have to say, I know plenty of white people who are not in favor of universal health care.
I hope it is incredibly obvious that these same white people who argue against universal health care are from an upper socioeconomic background. They have never had to choose between buying their medicine, and paying their electricity bill. For people in poor health, choosing one over the other – for either of those financial burdens – can have a fatal outcome.
There are people in this country who *have* insurance who suffer fatal consequences as a result of being denied treatment by their insurance carrier.
And certainly there are those without any insurance whatsover –due to its utter inaffordability– who die as a result, or for various reasons related to lack of medical care (mental or physical) contribute to the massive problem of homelessness we have in this country.
Society can do better. We have a moral imperative to do better. And no matter how much the capitalist healthcare junkies claim it will, the reality is that quality of care will NOT suffer under socialized medicine.
I wish more white people were in favor of universal health care. Specifically, I wish the self-serving, elitist whites in our Congress and White House, would WORK toward universal health care … instead of just making sure our tax dollars provide *them* with a supremely good government insurance plan.
For the trillions that have been spent on the conflict in Iraq, we could have had universal health care about three times over.
And the crap about the waiting in line for an MRI or whatever in this post is waaaaaaaaayy off base. People on Medicare in this country today wait the same amount of time in a doctor’s office or emergency room as a card-carrying person on private insurance. We already HAVE socialized medicine, and it’s just as functional or dysfunctional as the private, for-profit system the conservatives laud. The one thing they fail to think about is that perhaps if we had a single payor system with patient information consolidated and archived in a single national database, where any doctor anywhere could pull up any patient’s history at the click of a button, well … I think we’d have a lot of lives saved just by that improvement in our system alone.
Why does the opening of this post assume that “white people” have access to the best insurance and the fanciest hospitals? A hospital that will seize your house as a result of having medical debt with them? Who are all these white people that have access to great health insurance? I know plenty of whites who cannot afford to get insurance, and have suffered health consequences as a result. I also know whites who had insurance but had to drop it due to inaffordability. Is that having access? How do people have access to care who can’t afford it? I also know whites who were denied coverage due to a BS pre-existing condition, or denied certain services “not covered” in the fine print. And why do insurers even have policies of what is an allowed benefit and what isn’t when none of them have medical degrees? Because every patient impacts their profitability. The only way to take the capitalism out of health care is to put the service with the government. Only then will WHITE PEOPLE, along with all other Americans, have access to care, as the opening sentence of this post claims. We need national health care desperately, and most of the reasons white people argue in favor for it, is the alleviation of suffering and negative health consequences… for themselves, their families, and every other colored stripe of AMERICANS — not to work a freelance job from home. For Christ’s sake, man.
I hate that this post took a very simplistic, right-biased slant to this issue. I am new to this site and have liked what I’ve read so far, but you lost me a little on this one …
😦
I know something: There are NOT ENOUGH White doctors these days.
What fun you must have composing posts and then sitting back and watching the wars being waged.
Well done. Again.
If you’re going to make socialized medicine and gun control your standard of civilization, then you’re forced to admit that in 1939, Germany was more civilized and advanced than any of the Allies who fought her. Certainly more than Mackenzie King’s Canada.
I’m sure the guys at Stormfront will be more than happy to extend you a welcome!
And let’s not forget that Germany let women vote a generation before France (or Quebec) and two generations before Switzerland.
That’s not my standard of civilization, but if it’s yours, then there’s your third cheer for the squat, swarthy guy with the ‘stache. No Reagan, he…
Oh, and how could I forget the public support of churches and religious schools, so widespread in the West, but absolutely rejected in the soulless, self-centered USA?
Germany will direct your taxes to the church of your choice, Norway will even run that church. Quebec will spring for the kids’ parochial school. But suggest that Americans do the same, and [horrors!] the republic will fall.
Americans apparently care no more for the soul than for the body!
Is it just white people who like free healthcare? or white poor people? hmm, how about any healthcare? here in Oregon, those below the poverty line, (mind you all races), can enter a lottery now to get on the Oregon Health Plan! what a thing to win! jesus!
well, there was a day when medical care was affordable and one could afford to pay out of pocket to see their family doctor, at least for a cold, and got by with a catastrophic insurance plan for hospitalization! or when you could make an appt with any doctor you wanted and not just one in your network! and when not only one got insurance from an employer, but also when you could afford to insure the rest of your family under one’s policy! or when the insurance companies set up the whole crazy system right under our noses of HMO’s, primary MD, and co-pays! and the last i heard even in Europe and Canada, despite their systems, it is just as much a mess there as here. the real problem is healthcare itself. so much can be done and maybe white people want it all? Trust me though, they don’t want what’s free, they want the BEST…
Was in Paris last month, travelling w/family, & our 3-yr old got sick. Terrible ear infection.
Walked into pediatrics wing of major city hospital. No wait.
Got excellent, high-tech care. 2 prescriptions.
We only had to give our names and address, (all on the honor system).
After returning home, got a bill for $32 USD.
(Stuff only white people like? Hell no!)
Well I think Clander has betrayed his priviliged upbringing on this one.
This is the most obviously political of the SWPL posts…
Note to Random House editors re: this one: “SNIP”.
Look forward to something funny next go round.
Jealous of what? Your being a total moran?
Wow, there are people actually debating the free health care issue.
Ize lolling 🙂
Hell, yes I want to be able to have health coverage while I work my part-time jobs & hell, yes I’m also trying to start a new home based business on the side.
The idea of working fulltime for one company is as archaic as it gets. The main hold of the fulltime job is health coverage in many cases as you pointed out and when the downsizing throws you out on your ass & you’re on your own the fascists chant ‘You should of been prepared’ ‘You knew they’d move your cheese’
Prepared, how?
By having a part time job on the side or setting up your own business, of course…
So the fly in the ointment is healthcare.
Big Business should be open to free healthcare for all. They can stop offering their own insurance packages & go all part time workforce.
Places like the Big Three (sic) automakers already have a two tier work force. They could make all new hires part time with no insurance bennies & maybe we’d get affordable hybrid cars in our lifetime.
Debating with a republican is like playing a game of twister with a one-armed bandit. Too easy.
This is such a good blog. People who complain about bad health care and think that giving the reigns to the US government will not only reform the industry, but make it cheaper, are either terribly misinformed or simply stupid. The health system needs reform, but if there is one group that you can be absolutely certain will make it worse, it’s the US government. If you don’t think you have good health care, don’t forget that you can leave your policy and shop for one that is better. Don’t turn your personal rights over because you are mad with your health care company! Peace out and God Bless the USA!
I’d love to die because I’m poor.
Really…not only do you yanks leave your poorest citizens out in the cold, but you’ve turned medicine into a profit based business; charging as much money as you can, not as much as the services cost.
I haven’t seen “sicko” and I’m not american or european. (or asian or african or south american or indeed, any race you probably know of.)
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Fanciest hospitals? Maybe, but our insurance companies choose which hospital we can go to. (in the US) So, if I’m severely injured, my husband has to remember, while in a moment of panic, which hospital our insurance company said he could take me to. And where I live, our mandated hospital is 5 minutes further from us than another hospital. That doesn’t sound very fancy to me.
This was your most hostile post, and it reinforces the misconceptions that people have about universal health care. You’re not so smart today.
In a way this blog should be #1 on the list of what stuff white people like.. Because white people LOVE to show how well they know themselves, and to be open with it.
So.. no 1 on the list of what white people like:
#1 Stuff White People Like Blog
I hope you acknowledge this
Speaking as a British citizen:
Ha ha, America.
Ha ha.
Actually the police used to be private too. See the “thieftakers” of early Victorian Britain etc (and at how unbelievably corrupt they were).
This is hilarious. For 40% of the people in this country, waiting lists are a factor anyway, and they’re for substandard care. I’ve been to hospitals on the South Side of Chicago that made my skin crawl; dirty conditions, patients w/o family left in a corner and doped up, nurses who espouse: “that ain’t my job,” when asked to change and IV bag.” I’ve seen people waiting in the ER w/gunshot wounds; yes, actually waiting, sitting w/the rest of us waiting to get into the trauma unit.
We spend more money than any other country, and what we get is great care for 20% of americans, decent care for another 20%, unreliable care with high copays for another 20%, and 40% with no coverage whatsoever, relying on community clinics for basic level care, which have had their budgets slashed, forcing those 40% to ignore injuries until they become emergencies, and clog up the ERs.
These community clinics are in on the scam too, as in Illinois they are given state and national funding to provide “charity care,” to patients in need. Not only was I told by the staff of the doctor that I had been going to for years, including when I previously had insurance, that charity care “doesn’t exist,” but after the 3rd person I talked to, I was told that I had to run an unpaid balance to receive this consideration (I was unemployed). This was a manipulation of the system, as they also said they required payment upon arrival for the visit ($95).
Long and short of it is, we need to not tie people’s level of health care to their economic standard. It’s kind of cruel. I think we could work on some sort of system where people could be overchaged for elective surgeries in order to increase revenues into a shared pool; but we as a country also need to devote tons more resources and effort towards preventative care. Now please explain how the best way to do all that is not through some kind of elected office, working in conjunction with other organizations, of course. It’s obvious from the behaviour of drug companies, the amount of union-busting that goes on in the health care industry, and the ridiculous cost of a 5-minute “hello,” from an ER doctor, that making health care a commodity is not in the interest of MOST people, of course it’s in the interest of some: the rich. I can wait a few weeks for an ACL surgery if it means some poor kid gets a tumor or transplant sooner. I know it sucks not to think about only your own (including your family) situation, but hey, polar bears are swimming, honeybees are dying, and the worlds freshwater resources are rapidly disapearing. We may want to start thinking of ways to get out of this mess…together. It’s not really an option anymore. Our bad.
The hippies intellectual vaginas are chapped worse off this one than anything before, so this is by definition, the best post yet.
Can you please change this to Stuff White Liberal People like? Doesnt even have to be white. Im sure black liberal people like Socialistic Health Care too.
Im all for it, after all, Socialism breeds innovation creates honest non-corrupt leaders. When everyone (except the leaders) paid the same, everyone will obviously create the same quality product, right?
How bout this link?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia
Well if we would just all start eating anit-oxidents, organics, and avoid trans-fats, saturated fats, meat, eggs, Carbs, drink red wine, stop smoking, watch Oprah, have 8 weeks of annual vacation, 3 day work weeks, Telecommute, avoid avoid Yellow-5, drive Prius’, use Energy Saving light bulbs, have our children not drink soda and eliminate gym class in our massively over funded public schools, read books… whew…
…maybe just then we wouldn’t need doctors or socialist healthcare at all???
If I can’t tell you to not abort your baby, you can’t tell me what I can’t eat, drink or do! KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY BODY (and delicious unhealthy food!)!!!!
“No law on the books” indeed, Jeffrey, old boy, but plenty of lawyers waiting for your non-profit health company to give someone the wrong pill or not find that tiny malignant tumor. To which their response will be swift and devastating. Thanks to greed and our legal system we can’t have reasonably priced health care.
I guess what it boils down to is that one thing White Liberal People do -not- Like is being exposed to the stunning ignorance of brainwashed dittoheads. Parts of this thread might make one think the graduation exams at high schools these days required people to parrot Joe McCarthy and Rush Limbaugh in order to pass. For the sake of the rest of the world, I’d like to point out that our stupidest citizens also tend to be our loudest citizens.
The cranial density on display in terms of equating universal health care with some sort of ridiculous exaggeration of Soviet communism is a mental malfunction millions possess in this nation, but only because they eagerly poison their minds with a particular flavor of misinformation media. I believe the reason this post touched such a nerve has much to do with the legitimate disgust these defective thinkers generate. Readers looked to this blog to make light of the actual foibles of liberal multicultural white folks. When in stead it validates the profound political wrongness of conservative insular white folks, the end result is much more alarming than funny.
he wrote hindu not hindi
that was the joke
This blog rocks. It’s sheer genius. I love reading the ranting anger of the white middle-class libruls it describes so concisely – keep seething, angry white folks!! LMAO
Sanctimonious much?
Whatever. Go get some female anglican priest to officiate at your marriage ceremony to a cloned sheep. And stop at the dentist on your way home.
Dude – do you have no sense of irony? You’re the example that proves the truth of this blog – it’s awesome!!
HAHAHAAHAAAAAA
dumbass.
[…] my favorite page from Stuff White People like, this is insanely true. […]
Huh, never knew that, have to look it up.
. . . and you see, this is what competition gets you. Capitalist purists claim that they want the best for everyone, by way of using market forces to draw the best productivity out of the workforce. Of course, if they really wanted the best for everyone, they would not embrace this infantile perspective so deeply at odds with the facts on economic performance. Ultimately, deep down, economic conservatives advocate cutthroat policies under the misapprehension that it is not their throats that will be cut in the end. Yet with such a gross inability to embrace even minimal amounts of political and economic fact, it seems unlikely most harbor other gifts that will propel them to the front of the rat race.
On one side of the line, there are people like me, who have great contempt for ideas and great love for humanity. On the other side, we see contempt piled alongside contempt, with no love beyond self-love. It is ethical masturbation in an extreme pathology. Of course there is a role for market forces to play in optimizing economic activity. Of course competition is a useful mechanism. If only its staunchest supporters had not fried their feeble minds on fake news and the pundits’ false narrative of white male oppression, they might also begin to understand that there is a role to play for central planning in optimizing economic activity and that cooperation is also a useful mechanism. Engage with at least that tiny bit of obvious reality, and then it becomes possible to assess all manner of proposals as a responsible civic-minded American.
to my unborn child
– http://www.anythingblack.net
Portnoy: Your non-white roots have been exposed. It’s too late to cover them up in this blog, so your credibility is zero. I don’t know why you find it so painful, but just because you do, doesn’t mean that you have to inflict yourself on the rest of the world.
People read your inane blather and think: “Wow; he’s like that crazy, unwashed, bearded wacko downtown – shouting, shadow-boxing and screaming, but not making any sense.”
Portnoy wrote: “This is a blog about Whites, not people who hate them.”
No Portnoy; I don’t hate myself, or others for being different.
“Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one getting burned – Buddha
i say fuck it up assholes cuz i got the last comment so far! ha ha ha
http://121lml.wordpress.com/2008/03/07/the-disillusion-of-universal-health-care/
To those who say canada has no bench marks
Ummm.. I am white And I don’t like any of this stuff so you can rename it to “Stuff weird people like”.
http://thecsa.wordpress.com/
Okay, I like this blog. I’ve linked to it from my site. But you seem to have a major tendency to leave out connecting words in your blog posts, which makes them increasingly irritating to read. Here are the offenders from this post:
Paragraph 3: “they have it Europe” should be “they have it in Europe”
Paragraph 3, next sentence: “this especially true” should be “and this is especially true”
Paragraph 6: “on a recent trip Canada/England/Sweden” should be “on a recent trip to Canada/England/Sweden”
Paragraph 7: “the idea of everyone have equal access” should be “the idea of everyone having equal access”
I’m a fan of the site, but you could definitely stand to proofread your posts more carefully. Hopefully you’ll have an editor for that forthcoming book…
Many often lament the fact that Hitler’s mother didn’t have an abortion – and his admirer’s mothers as well…
Hey, this site is really funny! I just wondered when they will get off of the parody of liberal white folks and focus on the white “majority” that elected Bush. Things like “White people like to find brown people living susainable non poluting life styles and give them the gift of credit card debt and internal combustion engines, in exchange for doing actual work white people are too good to do.” or how when they can’t get a brown person, they will use poor white people for such jobs, and tell them they deserve their lives because they don’t work hard enough at their two jobs. Or about how they like to say they believe in god while raping the least of his children. Or you could do me. I’m one of the white men dying alone without health care in a travel trailer on a friend’s property, because social security that I paid into all my life takes 2-4 years to kick in, and I’ll be dead by then.
All real funny stuff.
Hitler would be so proud! He would surely compliment you.
White people love Poetry:
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I’d love to hear some of your health care stories…please post here…
http://johnmccain08.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/question-1-health-care/
You can be the first to comment at http://johnmccain08.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/question-1-health-care/
too. I’d love to hear your comments on health care.
Free might mean more visits to the doctor, yes.
I like to “save up” all of my medical problems for a few years so I can hit the doctor with them all at once and save myself the copayments. I’ve been waiting for almost a year to schedule surgery to fix my endometriosis. I can feel the lump growing under my skin, but I can’t afford the procedure… yet.
I do wonder how that will affect my health in the long run, and I’m thinking it’s probably not going to be in a positive way.
I visit the doctor less often because it costs money, but my life expectancy is probably decreasing with every missed appointment.
the posts are starting to correspond to smaller and smaller group of people. I love coffee and making people feel bad for spending the day inside (not really but I have been accused of it), I got my office to start recycling, listen to NPR, ride my bike to work, voted in the primary for barack obama, love the wire, hate corporations, watch daily show religiously, smoke marijuana, love netflix, loved arrested development while hating television, run in marathons (in training 8 months a year), and many more but this is finally a post that I don’t adhere to.
I wish there were universal healthcare because I have a shitty HMO and no fucking dental insurance. If anything severe happens to me I am screwed. I hope my next job has a better benefits package but in the industry I am working in it is moving in the other direction. There are things that the government shouldn’t get involved in (For example…….the media, and telling us how to dress) but my benefits suck and that is because the owner of my company is greedy and that is why I want universal healthcare so I don’t have to depend on a greedy asshole to decide the state of my health insurance.
There are no options
His posts seem to indicate that he believes all the problems in the world to be caused by Jews. Bad weather? Zionist weather control satellites, Low pay? Jewish bosses, war? Jewish arms merchants. All this and I’ll bet he doesn’t see 2 Jews a month wherever he lives, never mind being under their control.
I’m trying to say that his problems probably originate much closer to home, and are largely caused by people he has direct contact with. God forbid, he might be responsible for some of them himself.
And before someone suggests it, no I’m not Jewish, and yes, I often take both possession of, and responsibility for my own problems.
The generalizations made regarding Europe in these comments are hilarious. No we don’t have it in Europe. Europe has lots of different kinds of health care. None of the European systems fit any kind of suggested american model for “free” health care.
Free Health Care??? Right.
Sounds like FAQ News to me-
http://www.FAQNews.Wordpress.com
UGH! The only people who approve of socialized medicine are uneducated poor people who don’t have a brain to realize how fucking terrible it would be for the country.
Socialized healthcare WILL come to pass in the US, despite what the inbred red-scaredy-cat dimwits and their corporate masters insist on.
Fucking idiots who can’t tell what a sham the current system is.
This isn’t very funny. Universal health care benefits everyone, not just ‘white people’. In this country it would probably benefit more ‘non-white’ and the ‘wrong kind of white people’ than the ones you make fun of in this blog. And white people are by far not the only ones campaigning for it. I also don’t know very many people who think it’s a good idea just because Canada/Europe/Australia has it. Most people seem to think that its a good idea because dental and health insurance is ridiculously expensive on top of the taxes we already pay. Pretty sure that one defies racial lines, slick.
No, it definitely is hilarious
First of all I’m a Libertarian. Which means I believe in independence, freedom from governance, and well…liberty.
Secondly, if you believe government provided health care is free you are either.
1) Incredibly naive.
2) Incredibly ignorant.
OR
3) Intentionally misleading.
If you need me to explain why “free” healthcare isn’t free, wow. Just……WOW.
The typical liberal’s (mental default is that they don’t want freedom. Surely, your first reaction to that statement is that I’m “stupid”, but try to contain yourself for the next 20 seconds and continue please. Attempt to consider what I have to say rationally, if at all possible.
People that love freedom don’t a federal government to control their healthcare. They don’t want them to:
1) Control the doctor they can visit
2) Control the price one must pay in taxes for “free” healthcare. Again, try to understand that taxpayers pay for “free” healthcare, just as they pay for “free” foodstamps for the lazy, “free” retirement (social security…try to follow please), “free” education, etc.
3) Decide how much doctors, nurses, etc should be compensated.
Read this next sentence carefully, and try to control your hormones.
Every time we allow the government to take control a part of our lives we become less free.
I’m sorry, but anybody that wants the government to be responsible doesn’t want to be truly free. I simply cannot be convinced otherwise.
These are the same people that don’t want privatized retirement accounts or school choice. You are also the same people that think the government is responsible for bailing out the idiots that got $400,000 mortgages on less than $50,000 in income.
Grow up. Our government is not your mommy, and it was not established to give “free” health care. If you cannot get your own health care, you are a special kind of loser, and hard working people should not be responsible for making up for your poor life decisions.
Again, please (I’m begging now) grow up. Allow yourself to be personally responsible for your actions and stop expecting achievers to pay for your government entitlements. People like you are literally sucking the life out of the greatest country ever established.
This one was lacking specific details essential to “stuff white people like” and made sweeping generalizations (and also uninformed). Basically, its a weak argument.
BTW, socialized medicine (OH NO COMMUNIST!) will come to age when our private sectors fail us. Only when lives are lost it’ll become the beacon of the changes we need to make.
I know this blog isn’t serious, but the thought put into this article seemed rushed.
“No one pays for health care here in Canada.”
So the doctors work for free?
Odd.
I love this site, but clander, so many people now know about it that this website lacks authenticity, and in your owns words don’t white people need to be authentic? So so how can I keep reading the site?
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Would love free healthcare in the USA, but have to go on vacation in Europe to get it. Guess I’ll have to vote for Hillary –
Who ever said health care would be free? You’ll still have to pay for it through taxes. I hope most of you guys aren’t making this mistake. The biggest argument against publicly health care is that the program would be inefficient. The case has been made for many government run programs (i.e. public schooling as opposed to private schooling, social security and Medicare, welfare programs, etc.) Whether you support this idea or oppose it, don’t misconceive the notion that since it is public it must be FREE. It is not.
Im black, and I think the fact that this country is even debating the merits of health care for everyone means we have a longggg way to go… Great nation? Not!
I think this is starting to become a little too cynical for its own good. I got the joke the first time, but really this is getting to be a bit too much.
Free healthcare? Great. But who will pay for it?
Excellent post.
We need to watch the state of Mass. because they now have health care fo everyone. From an article I read today, it is getting difficult to get a doctor because there is a shortage. There is health care for everyone if you go to an emergency room. I know, I know, that is not ideal but the paying public pays for that care so at least the government is not paying. You and I are if you have health insurance. Yes, health care is a business and that is why we have had lots of advances in medicine. Take out the profit and there will be very little new stuff.
Good job once again, Christian.
One thing you should have mentioned is not only do white people want socialized health care so they can quit their real jobs, they want inspite of not really caring about their health. I love the ones who think a healthy lifestyle is sitting on one’s ass, abstaining from the gym, pool, court, and track, smoking weed (white people love to think weed isn’t harmful), and eating anything w/ “organic” printed on the package. LOL Good God.
Americans by and large don’t have health care b/c they don’t deserve it. They’re filthy, disguisting, slobs who work very hard to kill themselves before the age of 60. They’re whores of consumption who ALMOST NEVER take physicians’ advise anyway.
For the record, I would NOT have taken the MCAT – heck, I wouldn’t have even been premed – if I expected to work in socialized medicine. The hours are long enough as it is, and no way would I take a pay cut.
That particular patient was under consideration for a liver transplant after multiple sessions of chemotherapy for an almost universally fatal cancer diagnosis irreversibly damaged her liver.
Current research and the medical literature does not support doing a liver transplant in this situation, since the chances of her surviving six months with the transplant would be near zero.
Transplantable livers are in short supply, and giving one to this patient with minimal life expectancy was probably not the best use of a scarce resource.
However, the media portrayed the entire event as the big, bad insurance company refusing to pay for a transplant that “surely” would have saved the patient’s life.
Yes, and since you remembered to take into account the relatively massive rate of immigration into the U.S. from 3rd world countries with less-than-ideal healthcare, pointing out these statistics are entirely relevant. Right….
I don’t oppose immigration, but seriously, simply quoting life expectancies means nothing without controlling for hundreds of these types of factors.
Let’s think a little harder before we type.
A few things.
First, this post is still funny but it’s not quite as white as the others. There are plenty of poor minorities who would jump at the opportunity for free Healthcare.
Second, people really need to stop posting things like “This is only for certain types of white people.” You’re all the same, so deal with it. Just like Blacks and Asians. All the same.
I disagree. This one was hilarious. And definitely a keeper for the book.
And, it’s political only in the sense that its background/theme concerns something oft-debated in politics, but that’s not its central point. The article is actually about hypocrisy and self-righteousness among a certain subset of people.
Actually, that’s what almost all of these posts are about. It’s funny how many people don’t know the difference between righteousness and self-righteousness. Not saying you’re one of them, but still…
socialized medicine is fiscally responsible
but wait, neocon facists aren’t fiscally responsible
this site is starting to reek of frat boy stupididty
What makes you so sure that your situation will be any better under a paid-by-the-govt system? You will pay a lot more in taxes, for one thing. I’m not opposed to UHC completely – but most people forget to think too deeply about it.
Also – check your policy. Almost all insurance plans mandate specific providers and hospitals, yes–for routine care and scheduled exams. But for emergency care, which you are describing, the hit/penalty is little, if anything.
And, I will make the point again, that the “hostility” or “satire” in the post was not directed toward the disadvantages of UHC, but toward hypocritical people.
fuckin’ a, people — please stop it with the “this should be called stuff liberal urban east coast white people born after 1970 like”-style comments. you are harshing my buzz. please note:
a. MINUTELY SPECIFIC SUBCATEGORIZATIONS ARE NOT FUNNY — GENERALIZATIONS ARE FUNNY
b. IF YOU DON’T IDENTIFY WITH THESE “WHITE PEOPLE” THEN YOU ARE NOT THE AUDIENCE — THIS IS AN INSIDE JOKE (AS ALL GOOD HUMOR IS, ULTIMATELY) FOR CERTAIN WHITE PEOPLE AND THE NON-WHITE PEOPLE WHO LOVE/HATE/OBSERVE THEM
c. YOU ARE NOT CLEVER FOR OBSERVING THAT NOT ALL WHITE PEOPLE LIKE ALL THIS STUFF — YOU ARE STATING THE OBVIOUS. AGAIN. AND AGAIN. AND AGAIN.
d. IT’S HIS BLOG HE WILL CALL IT WHAT HE WANTS TO
e. GO AWAY
thank you for your kind attention.
This article is completely incorrect.
I don’t support free healthcare, nor will i ever. All of my friends agree (white or any other color!). And if you meant to say universal (rather than free) healthcare, I still don’t agree. However, it should be noted that universal healthcare is completely different than free healthcare (although a lay person would view them as the same– hence the ultimate demise of the healthcare system, should we adopt such a system. But I digress…).
Unfortunately this website states that it spotlights aspects of life that white people practice/do/support, however, this site truly speaks of a fabricated group of people that are a new age hippie-preppy hybrid. True hippies are not old money, and true blue bloods wouldn’t be caught dead doing/supporting hippie things (ex. work on an organic farm, support free or universal healthcare).
Do you even know what a second opinion is?
No wonder the Canadian system doesn’t work.
So why did you move? Doctors are sexier here? Better job here? Couldn’t afford to live in Canada after the Looney rose against the Green Back?
So move.
So you can afford a trip to Europe but not to the doctor? Sorry that’s just nuts.
Health Insurance is for Health People.
There’s an original concept, pointing out all the hypocrisies of White people that you can possibly think of….Nobody seems to be doing that these days….You left out the one where they shot at rescue helicopters in the Katrina aftermath and the one where the whole country starved after the Zimbabwean farmland redistribution initiative and the one where they put a convicted crackhead in the mayor’s office after complaining about the drugs that plague their neighborhoods…Uh, wait a minute…That wasn’t White people was it?…BTW, while we’re on the topic, what’s with all these Black women straightening their hair and dying it blonde when straight blone hair = racist and oppressive? (I thought of that one on my way to the tanning salon)….Now that’s either the worst case of Stockholme Syndrome I’ve ever encountered, or we have a major pot calling the kettle black (no pun intended, but I’ll take credit for it anyway)
You realize you are like the babe ruth or michael jordan of diversity. Your of no race that anybody knows and in a a battle of friendship diversity you were essentially untrumpable. Don’t be surprised if white people from around the world try to adopt you.
doc, the hybrid hippy/preppy you speak of is called the yuppie. They were spawned during the nineties to oppress the 40-something family man that lived in the suburbs to get away from the city. They are (strangely enough) mostly white, and act exactly the way this blog describes.
Also, doc, you seem to think that the author of this blog is actually serious. Good job…
It’s amazing how many comments this topic got just because it’s a hot-topic at the moment. His viewpoint doesn’t even seem to be expressed at all. He’s just pointing out that a lot of people who support universal health-care do so for shallow reasons. I’m sure he’d agree that the same goes for opposing it.
lol hindi is a language, as well as a religion, india has quite a number of different language. Good point about lacrosse though, its as though there love of ice hockey spread to areas that don’t have ice
You all (blog owners and commentators, alike) are created to do more than talk about trivial, meaningless matters. Have we not learned from 911? What really matters in life…
Whether it is true for some, true for all or true for none… at the end of your life, will all this “white people stuff” really matter? Will this have been a worthy book to publish, memorable for decades to come? Good humor? I don’t think so; but maybe to some. Life changing & inspiring for generations to come? Hardly.
As a “colored” woman married to a “whiteish” man, I can tell you with absolute certainty, that habits, dislikes, likes, quirks, weaknesses, strengths, evil, good– they cross color lines. What should be demanding our attention is not what makes a certain group of people so “other”, but what makes us so alike. We ALL are very much alike…and the ways that we are different are totally irrelevant in light of eternal, life and death matters.
How sad that we have other blogs like “Stuff Drunk People Like” or “Stuff Black People Like” following in your footsteps.
There is, I know, something more productive you could be doing with your time. Like figuring out how to quell the pain of people who have lost loved ones to drunk-drivers. People who wish they were alive to even worry about something like health-care…or soccer…or music…or coffee.
Wilton resident, 25, killed by drunk driver in Florida
http://www.acorn-online.com/news/publish/wilton/31471.shtml
Drunk driver admits causing crash that killed his girlfriend’s baby
http://news.scotsman.com/scotland/Drunk-driver-admits-causing-crash.3951155.jp
Drunk driver who killed teen sent back to jail
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080331.waltadriver0331/BNStory/National/home
Driver Drunk in Wreck That Killed Campbell Prof
http://www.wral.com/news/news_briefs/story/2685951/
Teen Killed, 3 Hurt in I-5 Crash Near Natomas-a speeding car driven by an alleged drunk driver
http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=40373
Matt was run over by a drunk driver
http://www.action3news.com/Global/story.asp?S=8124429
Words and images of young lives lost
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/04/words_and_images_of_young_live.html
4-year-old killed in Hurst by alleged drunk driver
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/031608dnmethurstfatal.59d83d85.html
DWI felonies increasing
http://www.wivb.com/Global/story.asp?S=8121470
‘Drunk driver’ mows down group of six
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23438863-421,00.html
Sincerely.
You must be really white. Are you also a doctor? Or a hospital administrator? Or perhaps a federal government employee?
spoken like a true non-White.
McPhee would rather it be titled: “What Jews wish all Whites would turn into”
Neocons are not “fascist”, they are former communists/Trotkyists.
Neocons are Jews
Neocons prefer communist/globalist totalitarianism, not one based on sovereignty.
Why can’t liberals get this? I think Aaron “Russo” (not his real name, he’s a jew, not Italian) made his movie to confuse people.
It’s from freedom to communism that we’re undergoing. DUH!!!
I agree with the above, sociaized medicine is communist, so are warhs for a “globalist” ideology.
A fascist wouldn’t support foreign wars for the “NWO” or globalism, that’s why the far-right is against the Neocon/Zionist axis which is COMMUNIST not Fascist.
GWB is the opposite of a Fascist as proven since he’s a “globalist” and he cares not for our national borders.
Fascists are nationalists, not globalists and corporate whores like the neocon commies.
Besides Bush could never be Hitler, because Hitler actually served in combat.
You probably don’t have auto insurance either.
Do you expect Whites to pay for your entire life?
NWO, multi-cultural, multi-racial, socialism does not work.
That’s why the USSR dissolved into 15 ethnic states, but Red China is working.
The only kind of “socialism” that works is when the people involved are of the same race, otherwise people lose incentive to buy into helping or subsidizing someone of a different race, etc.
This is just Nature at work. Sorry, if delusional liberals want to believe otherwise, there is no proof that mulit-cult socialism or communism can work at all. None.
That being said, why should a black person have to subsidize the health care of the jew or the redneck or the mexican illegal ethnically cleansing them from urban areas???? ha ha ….they won’t
hindi is an indo-aryan language spoken in parts of India. a hindu is a person who subscribes to the tenets of hinduism, A MAJOR WORLD RELIGION. If you’re going to haughtily correct each other, know what you’re talking about.
the most inbred group in the United States is the ashkenazi jew. Please get your “inbred” slurs right.
Competition lowers prices.
That’s Econ 101.
Why is America so stupid to not have nominated Ron Paul? 😦
Brits are idiots. They fought WW2 so their island wouldn’t be invaded by”foreigners”. Now look at their third world cesspool. Fools.
you dickweed. free healthcare so people don’t have to work? so people can open a bookstore, etc? you’re sometimes funny. but now you’re just an asshole. why don’t you talk about the millions working 40+ hours with no healthcare, would love to be able to have their family taken care of without going bankrupt. you hipster douchebag.
Pleasantville was typical jewish anti-White propaganda.
The USA was in far better shape, the schools, etc, when the nation wasn’t non-White with open borders.
Why do you think White America put man on the moon in 1969, but in 2008 multi-cult, affirm action sick, NASA will be closed under Obama?
Just buy the pre-ground Italian espresso in the vaccum packs, like Lavazza etc.
People need to understand that they can purchase health insurance just like they do auto insurance!!!
You don’t have to get it only through some employer!!
I like the “frat boy” comment. Frat boys always tend to have real majors w/ real degrees. My fraternity was full of finance, business, chemistry, civil engineering, and bio majors.
Then there you – a Womyn’s Studies or French Lit major LOL. You’re too transparent.
But you did use the word “neocon,” so I guess that makes you smarter than me LOL.
God I love the kind of white people who think they’re “the good kind of white people.” Tools.
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Ha ha…..you sad denying little cunt!!!
Look it up!
I live here in the US, and I am not passionate about socialized health care. I think our system here could work if there weren’t so many exceptions over which people can be turned away from hospitals and emergency rooms. I like the fact that when I pay my premium, I can walk into any facility and get health care, but I think even the doctors here are corrupt.
I know a few doctors, and a couple of them said that even amongst health care providers (i.e., doctors), the motto is: don’t cure your patient and don’t let him die. That way the patient keeps on coming back and giving the doctor more opportunities to make money.
The system is all corrupt, making it available to all isn’t a good fix. It needs an overhaul.
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I think your head doesn’t work. Book an appointment for one of those jiffy MRIs.
LOLOL. Something else white people like: Diminishing their own whiteness.
1000 comments let’s go!
spaztic people that don’t seem to “get” this humor and feel the need to write angry diatribes (which i skip past en masse) are only guaranteeing a sequel to the first book and their own continual annoyance…
… and my subsequent glee.
Part of human nature loves yucking it up; to laugh off the imperative of caring about disability, suffering and death always framed philosophically as the fate of others to be suffered tomorrow. Perhaps with the fading of the last light of the last day, we all secretly know that our execution will be carried out at sunset and not postponed to the dawn of a new day. The last laugh is not a laugh at all but the incoherent weeping for the appalling loss of the miracle that is me.
May your friends and loved ones give you aid and comfort to carry on with the blessings of this life.
Wow . . . it never ceases to amaze me how some people really OD in the comments . . . LoL
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Yeah, it’s classic. What’s even funnier is when they try and compare the college-educated, six-figure making “frat boy” as somehow less smart than the Negro male. LOL!!!!!!!
Some liberal Whites are the most self-hating people around. Frat boys reproduce, and they marry White women, and have 100% White children — which makes them more White than the liberals that don’t and date other races.
Damn! You know, you’re right! I’m old. My mind’s going. Thanks for the heads-up.
Hey, that’s another thing white people like: saying “heads-up”.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/myriad
I have $240 and all my teeth. Would that work for you?
Au contraire. It is acceptable. Perhaps not completely correct, but acceptable.
Just like “ain’t”, only not as redneck.
[…] Read the whole thing. […]
Won’t dentists go out of business?
So, are we all agreed then, that we white people may be pretentious gits in a lot of ways, but our feelings about healthcare and education are sincere and strongly held? And hence not really a successful topic for this type of humour?
“it’s abundantly clear from this particular topic that you really mean ‘White Americans,'”
I hope so. I didn’t think there were any other kind!
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Your grammar continues to slip. Still pretty funny, though.
This blog is soooo funny! Just hilarious! The comments are out of control! LOL!
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You are seriously spoiled if you think that’s true. My US insurance company (Blue Cross) dropped me, a healthy 32 year old woman, when I had an abnormal pap smear. That’s all it took. I can’t have insurance again until I have normal pap tests for two years. Until then I am screwed if I get hurt or sick. That is the “best health care on earth”? I don’t think so.
Look folks…
One of the reasons why it’s “cheaper” in Canada is because we pay so much for it here. We fund a lot of the world’s medical research with our money we pay for drugs and treatment. Not to mention all of the defense spending we’ve done over the years that Canada hasn’t had to bother with.
And for the folks that claim that America leaves the poor “out in the cold”, according the Hoover Institute, America’s Health Care “system” is over 50% financed by the government already. Have you never heard of Medicaid, Social Security Disability, or Medicare?
I am a “poor” self employed American making under $30,000 a year, and I buy my own health insurance, along with paying my full share of Medicare and social security taxes, and I get by just fine. I’m not rich, I don’t have a lot of “things”, but I don’t have kids yet and I live within my means.
That’s the solution… not asking for a handout from someone else. The fact that we have to (in theory) pay for what we use is what’s made our economy so strong over our short history as a nation. So don’t go trashin’ it.
See how the other half lives at stuffcountrypeoplelike.wordpress.com
Hello there. I am a white person from Europe. The UK actually. I think that’s the most advanced sort, right?
I find this blog very funny, but I do think it’s a shame that it’s so US-centric. Most of the cultural trends on here refer exclusively to America. That’s a double edged sword.
On the upside – it allows me to feel superior to other white people across the Atlantic – which is great. We love doing that in London, in fact, feeling superior to white people in the USA is one of our primary hobbies, outside of queuing and complaining about stuff.
On the downside, it comes across as slightly less funny than it could be, and perhaps slightly irrelevant sometimes. This means that I can’t feel I’m parodying myself, and thus able to laugh at myself – something white people here love. Self-parody, especially if it somehow involves cross dressing, is something that white people love over here.
I think this post is a case in point. We already have free healthcare over here – and despite all our complaining about it – we actually love it. The NHS (National Health Service) is the most recognised and more trusted brand in the UK – and it is the most popular institution ever set up by government.
We are also very happy that we pay less for healthcare than you guys do – even taking out the co-pays and deductables – we pay less purely on taxation than you do (10% vs 15% of net tax). This gives us that all important opportunity to feel superior to you.
To summarise, I do think the blog would be improved by having the perspective of European white people on these important issues.
Thanks
Nikolai
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Supply, and not demand, was the emphasis of early health care regulation.[4] “Certificate of need” (CON) laws were designed to keep health care costs low by requiring advance approval by state agencies for most hospital expansions and major equipment purchases.[5] Congress required all states to pass CON laws in 1974, but quickly repealed that requirement after finding it ineffective for controlling health care costs.
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Modern Health Care is just another piece of c**** we can thank the “Greatest Generation” and Boomers for.
It didn’t even exist, if full form, before 1974.
“Hello there. I am a white person from Europe. The UK actually. I think that’s the most advanced sort, right?”
Yeah, if the year is 1890, or even 1990. In 2008, however, Ireland, among many others, has a higher per capita GDP than the UK, to name one metric.
The UK is considered to be a multicultural basket case by Proper White People. There is a booming cottage industry here in North America which consists of bloggers culling articles from the UK press and expressing shock at how batshit crazy the government\bureaucracy is over there.
“Anglo-Saxons” are fleeing the UK at an unprecedented rate, check the statistics. They simply don’t like living there anymore; can you see why?
@ Nikolai Segura
Please tell your fellow UK islanders to pick up a toothbrush and brush those moldy beer/tea stained teeth (the ones that are still there of course).
Umm, I’m pretty sure everyone likes free health care
You = narcissitic personality disorder + stupid
When they compare US students’ math and science scores, if they were to compare only non-Alabaman and -Mississippian US Whites, then we are in the top of the world.
Fixed!
Cripes. Shouldn’t you be busy burning a cross somewhere?
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[…] It should be noted that socialized health care has made the list of Stuff White People Like: …it’s important that you understand why white people are so in love with free health care. […]
about 90 bucks here, in the middle of the U.S. 50 would be a good deal indeed.
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current healthcare = fail and will only get worse with republicon for another 4 years
i’m just saying….
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I got hit by a bus in Paris and a free MRI in England and it was, indeed, most excellent.
I swear all that is 100% true.
Free healthcare is ok I guess, but one thing is for sure: white people don’t like “that guy.” Check out this blog, it’s funny!
http://avoidthatguy.wordpress.com/
I’m white and I don’t like free healthcare.
You must not know any of the same white people I know. i don’t know a single one that likes this idea.
[…] guys who run this ostensibly humourous site are often too eerily good: …the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job. This would […]
I’m white and I hate socialized medecine. Hillary’s white and she loves it.
Barack is black and I think he loves it too.
I’m white and I don’t like socialized anything.
Gay people love socialized medicine because they are, compared to straight people, much heavier users of medical care. Let’s take a look at some statistics from Stats Canada:
“OTTAWA — A new study has found the use of health-care services differs depending on sexual preference.
The Statistics Canada study examined whether sexual preference was a factor in health-care use between 2003 and 2005 — it looked at things like consulting health-care providers, having a regular doctor and using preventive procedures such as pap tests.
It found gay men were much more likely than heterosexual men to have consulted medical specialists or mental-health service providers such as social workers in the year prior to the survey.
Lesbians were less likely than heterosexual women to have seen a family doctor during the same period or to have undergone a pap test.
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The study suggests the use of health-care services differs by sexual preference independent of other factors such as age, income, education and health status.”
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080319/healthcare_use_080319/20080319?hub=Health
The study also determined that gay men, lesbians, bisexual men and women were more likely to access mental health services than heterosexuals. They had more frequent contact with counsellors, social workers and psychologists and were more likely to report attending self-help groups.
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Relatively large proportions of bisexuals reported mental health problems, the study noted. Bisexual men were more than twice as likely as heterosexual men to perceive their mental health as fair or poor and for bisexual women the proportion reporting fair or poor mental health was three times that of heterosexual women, the findings showed.
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=979e2619-d5d9-44d5-8860-f5d65830cd60&k=93345
not in a free market, only under a socialized society where you have no right to do for yourself, by yourself are you a slave.
You couldn’t be more wrong about second opinions in Canada. Our system entitles you to a second, third and fourth opinion if you want it, all covered under public medicine. If you have a heart attack, a stroke or anything else that needs immediate medical attention, there is no waiting for treatment or surgery. We do have wait times for elective sugery like knee or hip replacement, but not for anything life threatening. You will receive all the treatment you needin hospital and when you get home you’ll be billed $45.00 for the ambulance ride, if you took one. Free health care, whether I’m sick or well, is one of the main reasons I love this country, and I would never move anywhere else.
Gay people love socialized medicine because they are, compared to straight people, much heavier users of medical care. Let’s take a look at some statistics from Stats Canada:
“OTTAWA — A new study has found the use of health-care services differs depending on sexual preference.
The Statistics Canada study examined whether sexual preference was a factor in health-care use between 2003 and 2005 — it looked at things like consulting health-care providers, having a regular doctor and using preventive procedures such as pap tests.
It found gay men were much more likely than heterosexual men to have consulted medical specialists or mental-health service providers such as social workers in the year prior to the survey.
Lesbians were less likely than heterosexual women to have seen a family doctor during the same period or to have undergone a pap test.
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The study suggests the use of health-care services differs by sexual preference independent of other factors such as age, income, education and health status.”
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080319/healthcare_use_080319/20080319?hub=Health
One month? I wish.
My mom is currently walking in agony, now that the cartilage has completely worn away in her knees. Here’s how the Canadian medical system has treated her so far:
Wait 1 month for a GP appointment.
Wait 12 weeks for an MRI.
Wait 2 months for an appointment with the orthopedic surgeon.
Currently on waiting list for a least 1 year for knee replacement surgery.
That’s 1 1/2 years of living in extreme pain and disability.
Oh, but it’s free.
I am no longer considering a move to Canada. From this moment forward, all threats for moving will be to the UK.
If we give free health care, then stories like this will just continue to rise…
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What do all of the countries with socialized medicine have in common? They all have (or had) a sugardaddy. For Europe, Canada and Japan that would be Uncle Sam.
More important than the Marshall Plan, NATO’s existence freed the Western Europeans and the Canadians from making the age old decision between guns and butter. With GI Joe protecting their backsides for the last 60 years they could afford to give their citizens “communism lite.”
Japan, constitutionally prevented from having more than a token military, takes advantaging of living under America’s umbrella. (And the Japanese are such compassionate people to begin with. See “Rape of Nanking” and/or “Bataan.)
Cuba’s health care system, so lionized by Michael Moore, was made possible by Comrade Warbucks in Moscow.
Of course, the bills are coming due for both Canada and Europe. With aging populations that aborted or prevented sustainable population levels, they are busy turning their countries over to a Muslim immigrant society that views their “compassionate societies” as being in need of euthanizing.
The liberal National Priorities project estimates the cost of the Iraq war as being $4,681 per household. But just to cover the costs of Social Security for all baby boomers by 2019 is going to cost $12,072 per household. So even if you pulled out Iraq tomorrow we can’t afford Social Security, let alone a new entitilement of socialized health care.
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actually I believe we (Canada) have the highest rate of immigration in the world…
Yeah, I think that the social nature of Russia’s health care is one of the main reasons that the life-expectancy is so low.
A cutting edge system has not been implemented BECAUSE it is not a lucrative career choice and no one wants to be doctors and nurses.
Social health care in a developed country is “okay” at best. Social health care in a developing country is absolute crap.
did you really expect it would? We may not pay direct, we pay indirectly through taxes…I wouldn’t expect to benefit from any social programs when I visit the USA, heck I feel a little guilty a get a free ride on the roads and use the national/state parks…but I guess I do pay consumption taxes and help others earn income to pay tax on while I am visiting so likely break even…
You need to know what you are talking about.
American Health Care is currently a perfect balance of Government Control and Oligarchy. Any movement one way or another would lead to better care. It is a perfection of worthlessness.
If the government would move towards greater control than Certificate-Of-Need being required for new hospitals, additional expansion, and new machines, then it would be viewed as responsible for health care in America, and our health care would improve. Because someone would be responsible. I would also like to point out that denying Certificate-Of-Need for new equipment can easily be used to close an existing hospital.
On the other hand, less government control, even allowing hospitals to buy equipment without asking daddy if they can, would force the Oligarchy hospital owners either to compete… which would improve health care, or form a solid-business cartel. In which case they would be viewed as responsible, and would be held accountable.
Only the perfection of worthlessness now obtained allows no-one to be responsible. Because that was how it was set up. It is also the most worthless system imaginable. A perfection of worthlessness.
Not free? But not linked to ability to pay either…
Is your road maintenance free? Is your fire service free? Is the protection to you by police and army free? Well of course not-you pay tax (I assume anyway)
but “free” is a shorthand way of saying not paying for it directly, so in that sense yes a large portion of healthcare is “free” eh? :-}
and yes for my sons, who pay little or no tax, I guess healthcare is “free”
Thanks for flawlessly confirming my recommended course of treatment 🙂
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I never thougth a health care blog would be humorous but this post was very funny and witty.
Considering that I (who am non-white) work at a (yes, a nonprofit) organization which works with a lot of non-white groups on getting universal health care, I don’t find this post very accurate.
Thats what white people tell themselves to justify getting what they really want.
Poor people either have health insurance from their employer (most low paying jobs offer it). Most of those who don’t are elligble for existing government programs. I wouldn’t mind covering a few million who currently fall through the cracks though under a new program (and don’t quote me that bogus 40 million Moore figure, it’s total bs like most Moore figures)…
I’ve got great health insurance, but it won’t cover the root canal I need. I’m having to wait months to get the cash saved up to cover what my insurance won’t. Also, under most of the proposed plans, you’d still be free to pony up some cash and get that surgery done whenever you want it from a private doctor.
Ctrl-F? haha you’re a PC – wrong kind of white person!
why does a doctor need to speak english????
I’d rather them speak organic chemistry.
Touche. If Milton and Thoreau can do it, then so be it.
“This is very similar to the way that white people express their support for public schools when they don’t have children.”
Pure ownage, with a capital p. I love this blog…
(You can tell it’s a good post when it almost crashes my browser just scrolling to the bottom of the comments.)
— johnseeking, Public Educator
…or maybe it has something to do with policy for the greater good. Not everyone is a navel-gazing wanker.
you mean like “National Socialism” Been tried, the free world brought it down.
What’s a git? Besides me, potentialy, for asking. BTW, I love the name Bronwyn.
I’m white and I love socializing.
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Satire often isn’t very precise when it comes down to details.
No money trees, just the old fashioned kind. But with the U.S. housing slump we’ve had to ship them to China. 33 million people on a shit load of resources lets us be pretty generous. If you want in you’ve got to get a certain immigration score, we are selective. There is no need for mexicans and americans to immigrate though, they are free to set up businesses and sue our governments under NAFTA.
“What do all of the countries with socialized medicine have in common?”
Besides “sugar daddy”, most of them have homogeneous populations, state-supported churches and (at least “constitutional”) monarchs. Don’t write off the importance of these in shoring up a welfare state. The Swedes sure didn’t, until recently.
As for abortion, it is much less restricted in the US and Canada, thanks to court order, than in Europe and Japan, where it is subject to democratic control.
Funny!
When I read the list to my husband he said “Well, who DOESN’T like modern furniture!” LOL!
Also, he works for Apple. We love our MacBooks and we BOTH have the apple sticker on the back window of our cars! I drive the Infiniti, he drives the Volvo.
P.S. I heart SF AND I have two last names! (Only gave our daughter my husband’s last name though.)
Oh! and I’m also half white/half chinese. Refer to #11 on the list 😉
The sugardaddy argument is so weak that no medicine could possibly heal it. It is true that America led the way in rebuilding Europe and Japan after both were ravaged by war. However, the notion that American largess supports Western European social spending is absurd. As those acquainted with the facts on American health care know, inadequate social spending can be more costly than excessive social spending. Only a truly simple-minded ideologue would believe that unsolved problems generate no economic drag.
It is true that the U.S. has spent a great deal of money providing Western Europeans with defense. Yet much of this was a response to an arms race that was driven chiefly by U.S. military spending. I don’t believe we should get credit as benefactors when we merely solve a problem that we also created. Then there is the usual nonsense about an Islamic tide and faltering economies over there — anything to keep Fox News fans from noticing the real strength of Euro-associated economies and the growing instability of the American greenback.
I see a lot of cars with the sticker “Keep your laws off my body!”
Whatever else it may be, state-run health care, or just state-supported health insurance, is very much “laws on your body”.
I doubt the drivers consider this.
I know several white people that hate sushi.
I’m white and I like some sushi. I hate squid or octopus though.
from Google: “Git is mild British slang term, used to denote a silly, stupid, annoying, childish or senile elderly person. It is usually used as an insult, more severe than twit but less severe than prat or wanker, and may often be used affectionately between friends. …”
My mother also loved the name Bronwyn. As a child I hated it, partly because a lot of people found it hard to pronounce. It means “white breasted” which is also an embarrassment for a child. I have come to terms with it as an adult though.
Do you really want the people who run the DMV to run your doctor’s office?
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“One opinion is you are a fucking idiot!” – Bahahahahahahahaha! I love you, Jack!
A synonym of “utilize” is “use”.
Are you an alien?
Hey, with white people it’s socially acceptable to aspire to be Eurotrash…
“McCain hates National Public Radio”. Who cares??
You are overlooking the fact that her DOCTOR thought it would be a good idea. It’s not the insurance company’s place to dictate what we can and can’t receive.
John McCain is the finest man that ever exited? Where did he go???
Not Stupid, you aparantly ARE stupid, because your post makes no sense. How is Marie “lying?” She is saying that it’s your own responsiblity to buy your own health insurance, and that it’s your own choice if you would rather spend that money on something else. You only paid $2000 for 8 stitches because you didn’t buy yourself health insurance. You took a risk and you lost.
That’s because this country is filled with a bunch of fat bastards!
Just wait until the government is your HMO. You’ll *love* it!
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Liposuction. God forbid anyone should exercise a little and stop shoveling food into their mouths!
Since your good fortune has blessed you with that new book deal, I’m adding this posting as a request for help. I recently contracted this awful staph infection and it’s spreading rapidly. My entire right leg is swollen and I’m currently using crutches. I don’t have an insurance plan, and am losing out on hourly wages due to being out sick with this terrible infection. I’m afraid I may very well die before they can see me at the filthy county hospital that’s jam-packed full of other poor bastards like myself.
All I need are some $20 antibiotics and this thing would be taken care of, but I don’t have a prescription plan which means the pills are $75.
Please help, send a check to the attached email address.
Thanks C. Lander You’re the best!
I’m afraid this would have been more accurately entitled “Stuff White People Like…Privatized Health Care.” There are far more whites who support a privatized health care system than the minority you seem to consistently describe here.
Hmm… I kind of see an agenda here… Should this website really be called “Stuff Conservatives Think Liberals Like”?
in other words, to clarify what you’re saying for those who don’t get it, white people and rednecks are 2 very different breeds of caucasians. 🙂
damn close…
wow 1000 posts, impressive!
A perceptive one you are! You’ve discovered our secret plans!
Yeah, I paid for my emergency health care in Canada. I tore up some knee cartilage and paid about $600 for the ER visit and a brace to hold me over until I got back to the states. Of course, my insurance refused to cover it at first so at least we’re in agreement on that.
I hope the authors will try not to let their libertarian angst ruin the humor here, the way it almost does with South Park. When comedy dabbles in politics, it must be careful to stay aloof and not preach.
How about another post? We’re all waiting.
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Are you serious? Who comes on a blog and shouts “FIRST” when they make a comment?
Oh yeah, that’s right, someone with the mentality of a twelve-year-old. Don’t worry, someone is praying for you somewhere.
Spot…fucking…on. I especially love Jenny’s comment, previously “stoked” about your book deal but now you’re “evil.” HAHAHA. Keep slaying the sacred white cows.
McCain hates you.
A member of the Black Panther Party once said to me while we were organizing, “I am so sick of all these white liberals!” I was like “Whoa, whoa, is the problem that they’re white or that they’re liberal?”
(liberal meaning right of the left which no longer exists in this country – fighting to keep the status quo while appearing to care about social ills)
The obvious connection between rich people and white people certainly makes sense. With a few notable exceptions, the ruling class is made up of white guys. Yet I have much more in common with a white worker than I do with Condoleeza Rice or Barack Obama.
I’m sure you already know this, and I do appreciate the humor. I love the banner!
That’s outrageous! I’m so sorry.
To answer your questions:
1) yes,
2) yes,
3) yes.
😉
Did you read this blog at all?
Yes, and it’s called Listerine!
This post suggests an interesting game. If the first post reads, “FIRST” and the one-thousandth post reads, “[wow] 1000, each person could simply count off his/her own consecutive post position in the comments -Golly 16, Gee dad 175, Eat-my-dust 900, etc.- without need for superfluous verbiage
Quick and easy, don’t you think?
You guys seriously need to check out “Ode” magazine. It’s exactly like SWPL, but without the tongue-in-cheek. Every issue is “Stuff White People Like in the News” to the extreme.
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Obivously you’ve never had any experience with the Canadian health care system. I was visiting friends in Whistler, BC when I got appendicitis. The care I received was better than any I’ve received in an American ER.
Don’t bother replying – you’ll only make yourself sound even stupider than you already do.
Does the kind of Stuff White People Like include things
like Truth, Equality and Justice?
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What’s it all about, Halfie?
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not even gonna get into it
Didn’t I meet you at “The Summer of Hate” in San Francisco in 1983?
You’re pregnant?!?
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PEOPLE THE SITE’S A LITTLE TONGUE IN CHEEK. Maybe you caught that? Simmer.
You are right. Good satire does not make fun of issues; it makes fun of people.
Grad school students usually don’t have health care either — so extra points there!
People need to chill out. This site is supposed to be funny. If you cant detect the sarcasm/irony in his writing style, then you obviously aren’t very smart.
White people who live in Southern California usually threaten to move to Canada with the disclaimer: “Why, I would move to Canada if it weren’t for the awful climate.” They feel bold if they take a job offer in San Francisco, and heroic if they make it as far north as Seattle.
Please do an entry with these things:
– controlling grammar/ using big words sporadically when speaking
– getting giddy/excited about little things, i.e. “Hell yeah we’re going to the farmer’s market!”
i suggest you keep poltics out of this otherwise great site..
this post sucks, cuz it deals with a sensitive, serious issue
go back to Mos Def, etc
My mom is living similarly and she’s in the US with health insurance she pays for.
No, your comment underscores many pertinent concerns. Lander has a more-than-fair gift for satire but much of what he writes has been derived from other sources polished with an updated spin which gives off the shiny illusion of originality. You are right to exhort white people who want to LOL more insightfully at themselves to look for superior yucks elsewhere.
Simply put, it’s not rocket science folks.
Free Healthcare is the best.
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whose #750? Where are those numbers anyway?
Rappaport,
You sound a lot like old Portney’s Complaint.
People like you ought to be rounded up in a pen to fight it out like the pig that you are. Scratch that, pigs are a poor example since they don’t think like you and are a lot better looking.
Stop all the anti-semitic crap. I’m tired of you.
I pray you don’t have a family who has to hear your BS.
In a strange way, I feel sorry for you.
Check me out….
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@Anastomosis
My comment was a direct reply to tsfile who said, “If anything, people live longer and better lives because of American healthcare.”
I’m sure tsfile knew when he/she made that statement that America has citizens who migrated from other countries and my statistics are of US citizens not people who just stepped on US soil 2 yrs ago, then died.
Step.
NPR is jew. That makes you non-White and anti-White politically too.
tamblu, why are you even on a White board?
This blog is not for anti-White racist a-holes like you. I feel totally sorry for you, you angry little man.
Seriously, nobody wants to hear your anti-White crap.
White liberals don’t really care about blacks, that’s what he means.
They just want to appear to be “better” Whites, and then make fun of rednecks etc. but White liberals (aka Jews) don’t give a crap about blacks, and damn sure don’t send their daughters to school with them.
Excellent post!
free sex changes and abortions all around!!! Jewi$h abortion clinics are salivating at the thought of it.
McCain doesn’t hate anyone, I hope.
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TOTALLY CORRECT!!!!!!!
Socialism can work in homogeneous societies, but there is not one example of it working in multi-cult ones.
The break-up of the former USSR into 15 ethno-states, plus the Balkans’ recent history, proves this.
Does anyone here see a Jew wanting to pay for Muslims families’ births? A Black paying for a Hispanic’s workmens comp?
Gays are much more prone to loneliness, and to be treated for depression, than are Heterosexuals.
They also have much higher STD treatment rates.
“Proper White People”
That’s a great term.
Hating “frat boys” is a past-time for ugly & fat liberal chicks that can’t get laid, and don’t end up with nice families.
Hey Canadians, thanks for sending your finest physicians to the USA. They’ve provided me with some great health care!
Yes, that is what happened.
However, the point is that the people who were “under” it, or voted for it, etc. LOVED IT while they were, and before it was brought down.
Have you never seen the old pictures? The parades, the women were happy, the children were too, no crime, etc.
Communist rulers were, by contrast, utterly despised by their people, where the Fascist ones were LOVED, that’s the difference.
Anyway, I’m not a “socialist” but all I’m suggesting is that Socialism based on “nation” works better than socialism based on other concepts.
Socialism based on multi-culturalism is totally doomed to failure, almost by definition.
The cranial density on display in terms of equating universal health care with some sort of ridiculous exaggeration of Soviet communism is a mental malfunction millions possess in this nation
Care to explain your side? Why is it different?
Free markets lower prices via competition. They increase quality, they increase productivity.
PS Red China may be communist, but they’re more like a national-socialist state, rather than one based on “class” or “multi-culturalism” etc.
China has is hugely homogeneous racially and culturally, as compared to say “Canada” or the United States — where socialism can’t work because of the lack of racial solidarity needed to pull it off.
Dream on.
Q: Why don’t you disgustingly fat Americans exercise 20 minutes a day and eat only until you’re about 80% full? You wouldn’t have to wait so long because fewer people would be going to hospitals.
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The myth of market perfection springs from an inability to apply even an adolescent level of nuance to economic issues that are invariably laden with nuances. For example, the U.S. government pays at least $20/plate for meals at Camp Anaconda. Now, one could argue that Halliburton benefited from corruption in wresting control of commissary services in theater from the Defense Department. One could argue that an open bidding process might have actually produced a decline, rather than a huge increase, in the price of feeding soldiers. Then again, one could also argue that if it was not for corruption, the Soviet state would have come much closer to sustaining a strong level of economic growth. If we are to be realistic rather than idealistic, we must come to terms with what is real.
What is real in the United States is that wealth has been so heavily concentrated in the hands of the few that corruption is increasingly normal and accepted. The ideal behind Wall Street is that informed investors making wise decisions will reinforce good economic behavior and minimize bad economic behavior. In a reality where even mutual funds often hold stocks for a fairly short span of time, Wall Street reinforces the cannibalism of businesses and actually discourages the kind of sound long term thinking that fuels sustainable economic growth. From nursing homes to what’s left of our manufacturing base, financial titans buy a business, downgrade the workforce, sell off spare equipment, switch to cheaper suppliers, reap profits from the lag in market correction, then sell the ravaged business to some sucker who has no idea how badly degraded it has become. Warren Buffet aside, nobody in high finance chases the solid annual return when there is a fast buck to be made instead, even if that fast buck involves doing tremendous harm to a successful business.
This lack of nuance is self-evident when you see people equating universal health care with Soviet Communism. The argument that preventable sickness and death should be prevented in our own society is not at all the same as calling for widespread application of state property doctrines (which is itself a far cry from the absolute equality of wealth ignorant folks seem to believe was actually happening in the U.S.S.R.) The argument here is not that market forces should be obliterated or even shut out entirely from the medical sector. Instead it is that worship of market forces is no excuse for letting Americans sicken and die when tremendous improvements to the state of our public health are entirely achievable goals.
Of course, it is not just a values issue. Our economy suffers for both the preventable losses sustained by the workforce and the parasitic extraction of resources performed by private insurers. When you ditch the anarcho-capitalist ideology and embrace policy-making realism, universal health care becomes a promising strategy for promoting growth in the United States today. It will make our workforce more competitive, it will improve our overall quality of life, and it may even reduce the incidence of catastrophic health problems through widespread availability of appropriate preventative medicine.
Like various other approaches to ordering human activity, free markets have their uses. In some situations, maximizing the role of market forces also optimizes the end results. However, this is not a universal or absolute thing. After all, nitrous oxide is a great way to make your ride go fast — but that doesn’t mean you should administer it to a horse on the gallop. If we stop thinking of a complex discipline like economics on the dumbass level of men like O’Reilly and Limbaugh, we can start acting like responsible citizens and formulate dialog that will guide better outcomes for the people and the economy of the United States.
yeah, you have wait times for the majority of people who DON’T have life-threatening illnesses…that’s great, you say that like in america we have wait times for life-threatening illnesses. no. we have something called the “free market” and the gov’t is effing with it left and right. back in the day when healthcare was still a free market (i.e. before government got all up in its business) doctors were very much affordable, no matter WHAT kind of treatment you needed or how severe you were or if you didn’t have “insurance”. how about we go back to that and i can quit supporting lazy people with MY tax dollars for medicare? whatever.
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My commie-pinko friend. What you fail to realize is that the people that worship at the alter of the free market do so only because they realize that both are equally corrupt. The greatest difference is that when the market grows, aside from the fact that the top tier grow exponentially richer, society generlly gains wealth and experiences a (relative) sustainable increase in the standard of living. When government grows, it consolidates power at the expense of liberty, while creating uniformity at the cost of increased stagnation. Expanding government influence may raise everyone to a uniform level, but that level remains constant in a world of growing technology, creating a real decline in quality compared to that which is available.
I hate to be cliched, but the honest truth is that Marxism, and all it’s derivatives are great in theory but shitty in practice; the corruption and meglomania of human nature will interfere 100% of the time. Utopia will never exist b/c man is ultimately imperfect. The best we can hope for is a system of commerce and government that has a self-regulating quality built into it and simply accept the fact that, while it is imperfect, it’s beats the alternative.
-JR
Actually, I believe the best that we can hope for is that grown men and women participating in the political process will do so without relying heavily on propaganda and false dichotomies. The propaganda point is that trickle down economics actually causes some sort of trickling down of wealth. If you go for the hard numbers, it becomes clear that 80% of American households have not enjoyed significant real economic gains in three decades. That link is to a CIA resource, but any resource that is not the work of partisan hacks and other misinformation venues will bear out the truth. For a full generation now, the American people have been working hard, producing national growth, and enjoying no significant part of those gains. Only an economic elite have been benefiting since voodoo economics became fashionable as an article of faith.
However, it is also grossly irresponsible for anyone to vote or speak out on politics while laboring under the impression that society must either be anarcho-capitalist or subject to rigorous central planning. We can have a national infrastructure policy (or even a national mass transit policy, were we at all capable of implementing political foresight) and still accomodate a thriving market in personal vehicles. Likewise, implementing a universal health care policy is not the same as abandoning the good elements capitalism can provide. So long as we are crippled by political dialogue that denies the very existence of a middle ground, out politics and policies will continue to reflect the most primitive sort of thinking. Rather than say, “capitalism is the worst economic system in the world, except for all the others,” something more like “capitalism has some pretty serious flaws, so let us remedy those while continuing to support its institutions and values where they actually do more good than harm,” would serve us well.
What’s your point?
Not hero enough to have his own holiday though.
Tamblu,
It sounds like the “Baby Mama Insurance” on this link was designed for people like you:
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Yawn…..
“When government grows, it consolidates power at the expense of liberty, while creating uniformity at the cost of increased stagnation. Expanding government influence may raise everyone to a uniform level, but that level remains constant in a world of growing technology, creating a real decline in quality compared to that which is available.”
I’m not sure you’ve studied the current health care situation at all, but uniformity in care is *exactly* what we need right now. We need less glamorous primary care physicians. We need mundane maintenance of chronic conditions. We *don’t* need more plastic surgeons or specialists. A huge chunk of modern medical discovery has been done at publicly funded institutions, where private companies have access to that basic research. Financial concerns lead to more erectile dysfunction remedies, or hiding negative clinical trial outcomes (which is happening).
“We can have a national infrastructure policy (or even a national mass transit policy, were we at all capable of implementing political foresight) and still accomodate a thriving market in personal vehicles. “
Exactly. Having a national healthcare framework, like having a highway system, doesn’t mandate the physician we use any more than the highway mandates the car we drive. But we’d still be driving exclusively gas-guzzlers for all the “free market” cared if it weren’t for CAFE standards, yet you can still purchase a frikkin’ humvee.
JR and Demonweed,
You both make some interesting & valid points. Thank you, –Jeff in Houston, Texas
While I love paying upwards of $300 a month to a company’s bottom line, I would prefer to have that money collected as taxes and spent to help my fellow American with their health care struggles. I know it sounds crazy to ask this, but where does my insurance premium go? It would be nice if it benefited the people who need it the most, not a corporation.
“Pinky” is actually from Alpha Centari. S/h/it is waiting here on Earth for the return of the Mothership behind Comet Hale-Bopp.
I am not so sure that this post should be considered so much a parody, but more of a soapbox. It really feels like a response to a conversation in which the author was bested and is now seeking solace. Socialized programs aren’t without their problems (i.e. – police departments, public schools), but I – like many other readers – would rather see my tax dollars go towards the development of a national health care system rather than lining the pockets of the profiteers of war, excuse me – profiteers of destabilization.
White people like free healthcare, but black people are the ones that get it. Caucasians are pushing towards universal health care because they are sick of having to pay for all the blacks and illegals that are uninsured and and still get healthcare. I’m not being racist, just factual.
Funniest comment on the board!
Well, it goes to people like me, who have over $3000 monthly in medical bills to treat an incurable disease. Which I don’t have because I smoke, eat big macs all day, or sit on the couch. If the government were the single payor for my healthcare, they would be deciding what the “correct” amount for my doctor appointments would be, what the “correct” amount for the drugs that I need, and since profit margins would be reduced to nothing, there won’t be any money for R&D to develop better drugs or possibly a cure. Single payor is great for healthy people, but those who have chronic, very expensive, and incurable diseases are screwed.
“they have it IN Europe”
White people hate poor grammar.
Short version.
If I hate Wal-Mart, I can shop elsewhere. If I hate the government, my only recourse is emigration.
andy on April 6, 2008 at 10:56 am
“I wish there were universal healthcare because I have a shitty HMO and no fucking dental insurance.”
National healthcare will just the whole system into one big shitty HMO… I’m serious… Check out the Brit newspapers on-line.
At least now you have the option of getting non hmo insurance.
I sprained both of my ankles while in Germany a month ago. They asked me how I pay, and when I told them I didn’t know how my insurance worked ( I was there for 2 weeks for business), they sent me on my way with only ace wrap for one ankle, no meds, x-rays. I limped back to my hotel and was healed by God on one of my ankles. But I loved it there. I would live there if I could. They had wonderful cuckoo clocks 😉
Not funny, really. Try editing, which allows for consistently proper grammar.
stuff white people like: making sarcastic jokes to people they just met.
See, universal health care is for europeans in Europe.
Ironically, just today the Ontario government announced it was cutting 75 nursing jobs from hospital on the east side of Toronto.
Please know that any hospitals in Canada run on a government imposed shoestring. If you think that includes providing hospitals with state of the art diagnostic and treatment tools then you are sadly naive.
When Ontario hospitals get an upgrade, it means ONE hospital in ONE city has a new MRI. That means anyone needing it can get in the absurdly long line up to wait and wait and wait until they get to make the hundreds of miles trek to their appointment. Hope you have relatives in that city too, cause that’s where you’ll have to stay after the hours long journey.
Before considering if you want universal health care, tour a hospital in Canada, it’ll be like going back in time.
Not penultimately.
(No, that is not a sentence; it is a de-emphasized exclamation.)
You have misused the word. One correct choice would have been “ultimately.”
It’s more like one of those Strong Man tests at the fair. You swing (leverage) the sledge hammer (inherited advantage) and strike (exploit) the lever (working poor) to see if you can launch (advance) the shuttle (your own interests) up until it hits the bell (selfish satisfaction).
And once the bell rings, you know you’re at just the right level because everyone at the fair heard it, which means you don’t have to do anything more. You’ve done your part, helping the poor on your way! Now it’s time to celebrate. Let’s go kayaking!
Unfortunately, there is no middle ground. The market and the government are in a perpetual tug-of-war for control of the economic direction. The problem, again, is that while the market will self-correct, governmental bureaucracy has no such mechanism aside from, ultimately, revolution. To think anything else is just idealistic, albeit noble. Unfortunately idealistic policy, without a firm base in reality ultimately leads to catastrophic failure. Just ask all the people in foreclosure right now. Ideally, they could afford a $400k house on a $50K/yr salary; in reality they made a short-sighted, ill-informed, bad decision and are now hosed. I’d hate to see our policy makers make a similarly short-sight, ill-informed, bad decision b/c, ideally, it works.
That’s my favorite scene. Oh, and the salute with arm… *gasp*!
Oh, so funny!
I think this post is miscategorized.
It should be posted under “What Illegal Immigrants Like.”
Don’t think so? Just visit many of the metropolitian cities in border states and ask.
China is industrializing. They were agrarian, and now they’re becoming more efficient. This always happens to countries that industrialize.
The technological advances they are adopting from capitalist countries are making this possible. you will watch them become more and more capitalistic and richer and richer. You will see their average income go from $3000/month to $30,000/month over the next few decades while they catch up from their backwards, communist ways.
Absinthe with wormwood is legal in the US… white people can read about it in the New York Times:
Heh. Make that $3,000/YEAR and $30,000/YEAR. Thank you.
While KamandiCurt loves to leave comments about HappyJack’s comments as often as possible, it is nice to see that KC leaves intelligent posts, too.
I do not agree with your anti-profit stance, but I’m happy to see that you wrote something without pasting. Thank you.
Markets self-correct in theory. In practice there is a very limited range of corrective behaviors market forces induce. When it comes to something like prohibition of narcotics, human needs will trump pontificating moralism every time. When it comes to matters like environmental contamination, public safety standards, and the allocation of economic gains; market forces are only self-correcting if your idea of correct is to trample all over any sense of public interest while enabling an elite to profit from acts of predictable, if not deliberate, destruction.
The idea that business and government are in a constant struggle for the soul of the economy plays into the kind of counterproductive commentary that obstructs both economic and social progress. There are many areas of policy where an effective partnership can already be seen in the U.S. Universal health care, if we set aside propaganda, is another of these partnerships evident in dozens of nations with sustainable economic growth. If the best reason to avoid this path for our own people is ideological conviction that it must not work, then I say that is all the more reason to abandon ideology, rather than all the more reason to perpetuate the abandonment of our fellow Americans to the ravages of preventable sickness and injury.
i think this post sucks, but at least i didn’t suggest that i would defecate upon my ideological adversaries.
um, let’s don’t let white people feel genetically superior (“breeds”). it’s inherited wealth that makes them feel all upper-crust and fancy, pure and simple.
this post is just a trainwreck, target-wise. my redneck family would love them some affordable health care, as, i bet, would many working-class people of any race.
i’m sorry to let you down, but there’s the matter of how mccain says he feels about, ahem, “gooks” (his word, never ever ever mine):
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/hongop.shtml
First!
Oh, wait…
at <$30k, you’ve not even remotely paid the government back for thirteen years of education, not to mention all the other government services you take utterly for granted. go ahead and keep pattin’ yourself on the back, but i hope you don’t mind that it grosses me out to see it.
i mean, how could any woman hate a charmer like you, right? am i right or am i right?
Hahahaha!!! Great comment! 🙂
was your degree in double-speak? are you jonah goldberg?
your definition of fascism is very convenient to the republican party, though utterly inaccurate. according to you bush invaded iraq because he’s “liberal fascist”. never mind that liberals are always whining about peace, and that republicans really love the shit outta killing and torturing and taking away the right to trial. according to your twisted reasoning, it wasn’t republicans’ innate values (to remind you because you’re stupid: killing, torturing, and no trial) that have got us in this mess. it was the liberals.
of course it was.
gross gross gross you people are so gross.
hm. i’m for affordable health care for everyone, and i’m pretty sure i could destroy you at any test of intellect you care to choose.
You know who likes free stuff? POOR PEOPLE.
http://www.poorpeoplelikepizza.blogspot.com
don’t be dead by then. health care is like the loaf of bread the guy steals to keep his family alive. it’s morally right to take it even if you can’t pay. usually there are free clinics in most communities. if not, i’d say you have license to do what you have to to survive. brainstorming… maybe write bad checks. maybe you’ll go to prison — they have health care there…
your situation is fucked up, but if you survive to next year (please do), maybe you’ll get to see things start to turn around politically.
do what you have to. good luck.
aww. you couldn’t rebut the substance, could ya? aww.
wait. you’re a satirical figure, then? ahhh. i’m always the last person to catch on to you guys.
but! you’re not allowed to tell that story! didn’t you see clander mocked people who have tales of good experiences with accessible health care? so it’s off-limits, now.
Absinthe was legalized in the U.S. last year.
the government invented the idea of rationing. if you think rationing is exclusive to HMOs, you’re dreaming. if you think the governments of europe and canada don’t ration health care, you’re dreaming. and if you think that health care controlled by the united states government wouldn’t be rationed, you’re dreaming.
you’re still wrong…
umm jackass you have it all backwards
I go to school in Canada but hail from the States, so it’s obvious I like Canada and don’t enjoy bashing all things Canadian.
However.
I’ve been to the doctor three times in my first year and so far I’ve had to pay for all three things. I actually haven’t taken the time to really understand the health care system (eh…), but when I am informed that voilà – I have free health care! – I do not understand why I have 68$ for a Hep B shot. If it’s required for grade school kids (who get it for free), so why do I have to pay?
At least I am getting good service here. I just don’t understand how exactly “free” health care is so expensive.
Probably because you live in a trailer park. Either that or you hang out with investment banking types.
Japan’s constitution was written by Douglas MaCarthur. Then when it became inconvenient the US forced Japan to do some constitutional gymnastics to put together the “Self Defense Forces” that supposedly didn’t violate the constitution because it isn’t allowed to attack. Oh, and the Self Defense Forces just happen to buy all its equipment from US military manufacturers. Moreover, Japan pays the US for its protection in other ways as well by funding the Iraq invasion, for example, because its US-mandated constitution prohibits acts of war but the US strong-armed Japan into funding it. Japan “takes advantage” of the US protective umbrella in the same way that the fruit stand guy on the corner “takes advantage” of mafia protection. The real threat that the US has over Japan is the insatiable appetite of the debt-ridden, minus-savings-rate US consumer.
Nobody is forcing the US to spend billions on arming itself to the teeth, invading Iraq, and occupying huge tracts of prime real estate in “friendly” countries so it can buzz rooftops with F-15 “training” that would be illegal in the US. The rest of the world would be more than pleased to rid the sandlot of its bully named Uncle Sam, and that bully could then take all the money he spends on toys to take better care of his family.
No, that’s why they wouldn’t run it, just fund it. Japan has a very effective system wherein the insurance is nationalized but the care providers are private. I lived there for over 10 years and, though far from perfect, I thought it worked brilliantly compared to anything else I’ve seen.
You mean liberal angst. Libertarians are advocates of laissez-faire and small government.
I loved this blog until I saw this post. What a shitty thing to write, and an ignorant thing, as well. Obviously, you have never had to deal with the bureaucracy that comes with US Healthcare, especially when it comes to people with serious diseases. My mother had to wait 6 months to get a cancer diagnosis because her healthcare company was so mired in bureaucracy that they wouldn’t give her a PETscan. She does, by the way, have a full-time job.
I realize that your blog is a satire, and I have always appreciated your humor. However, this really is a problem, not a joke. And it doesn’t just affect white people. It affects everyone.
You have to pay for those things in the US too – but they are much more expensive. You should, however, check your health insurance. You aren’t a permanent resident or citizen, but a visiting scholar, so you actually buy health insurance through a company just like in the States. Sorry.
FYI to the author of this article, if you get hurt on a trip to Canada, you won’t get free health care. You kind of have to be a citizen or resident paying taxes to take advantage of the system. And they make you pay part of it up front, so there’s really no way around it. I just don’t want anyone to think that they don’t need to buy extra health insurance when they visit Canada.
I’m sorry, but this response is the douchiest, most mean-spirited thing I have seen written in a long time. To essentially say to someone “Make more money!”as a solution to their financial woes shows a severe lack of mature understanding of the way people are able to make money and support themselves in the real world. It’d be great if he wasn’t supporting a family on so little, but hey, he is. It happens sometimes. I’m sure when you’re in a situation where you are supporting yourself (or if you already are, when you grow a little sympathy for other human beings) you will regret those words.
Your country also gets taxed like 15%… Sounds awesome!
Free health care in Canada for foreigners my ass. I went to Canada and was sick as a dog. I went to a walk-in clinic and asked them if they would take my American-insurance. They said I would have to pay them out of my pocket.
All I gotta say is:
Fuck Canadia
Fuck France
Cuba will be good someday.
Michael Moore is a fucking fraud.
Reading this blog for the first time. Slightly painful.
Did not realise how white i am becoming.
I think i am having an identity crisis- but then again thats another “stuff white people like” isn’t it 😦
Hmm, someone once said that there would always be poor people and he ain’t been proved wrong yet. Where there are people there are problems.
And health care is not a right unless you’re a blind liberal idealist. Things could sure be better but at least the West don’t enjoy a 1:50,000 or so doctor/people ratio unlike too many places I know. Count your blessings.
Thanks for breaking it down into myspeak for a village Dong who once participated in such gala day feats. You must have a double major in Physics & English from MIT. I’ll name my kid after you if you would kindly pay my health insurance.
And whats a Kayak when you can have a Canadian canoe – can fit more pigdogs and squaws in those anyday.
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white people like to argue on the internet
you can always ask for a second opinion or see another doctor or ask for a re-test or go to the states. plus, at least most people can afford to see a doctor in canada! since any opinion is free!
I can see white guys has got the animal talk straight-down.
First, Medical Care isn’t a Casino. It isn’t the Stock Market. So this “risk” white guy is talking about is very interesting. I “risked” getting an injury I couldn’t pay for? Of course, I COULD pay for the treatment…. So I wasn’t really risking that. What I WAS risking was the punitative 1800 dollars in additional cost because I was a “bad man” and didn’t buy insurance… which I better do OR ELSE. Look, it’s the Invisible Hand! In an uncivilized country, I could have gotten that injury fixed for under two hundred dollars. So why is the “free market” acting like a Mafia protection racket. Where someone either pays insurance companies thousands of dollars for nothing, or pays the hospital thousands of dollars for nothing in the event he is scratched? In uncivilized nations, with a free market, my cost, for my “risk” would have been vastly less, and the treatment vastly better. Doesn’t seem like America has much of a Free Market, eh?
White Guy didn’t even bother to address my points as to WHY Marie was lying, just babbled about how “it was nonsense”.
Marie took the same “risk” I did, so she should have “paid” like I did. So why does she claim that she thinks $2000 dollars, or whatever amount she didn’t pay for services she never used, assuming she is a she, is “reasonable”? I can’t think of one person who paid $2000 dollars for medical service they could do themselves who would call it “reasonable”.
But maybe White Guy is using the reverse of Occam’s Razor. Where the most likely choice, Marie is lying, is immediately discarded, in favor of the least likely choice, Marie is a complete wierdo.
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I don’t get how dumb most of you are who are commenting. This isn’t talking about “white people”, its talking about intelligent liberals. Its satirical. This is how intelligent liberals convey humor. It seems that many of you understand the intent of this blog just as much as I understood sex when I was 7.
Intelligent liberals like organic food.. Colber Report.. indie music.. etc.. Get it?
Other white people, such as conservatives would not understand/would reject many of these notions either because they are simply not intelligent enough to appreciate them or are too stubborn.
you don’t know anything about the ‘free market’ or ‘back in the day.’ things like breathing, education and healthcare were never supposed to be commodified and put on the market system in the first place. also, according to Smith and Ricardo, government IS supposed to play a role in the market; it is supposed to restrict the flow of labor and capital from moving across borders. so the ‘free market,’ as you know it, is not what it is supposed to be (as you clearly are aware). BUT, for the same reason communism is good in theory but not in practice, free market capitalism is also good in theory (but not in practice). you should read ‘wealth of nations’ and maybe some Weber (Max Weber). then you should get a better idea of what’s going on and why universal healthcare and other socialist policies are beneficial. in fact, if we had a socialist system of public education, you probably would have gotten a good education.
“From there my name was called to go to the back room, my wound was surveyed and quickly cleaned up, glued shut and wrapped in gauze and bandages. My whole treatment time was no more than 7 minutes. My waiting time (which was repeatedly predicted to be a couple of hours) was just short of 90 minutes. No one asked me word one about payment as New Zealand has free emergency health care. ”
Quoted from great SWPL fodder blog :
http://trembleunderboomlights.blogspot.com/2008/04/australia-part-eight-there-will-be.html
“this especially true of things that are unavailable in the United States (Rare Beers, Absinthe, legal marijuana, prostitution, soccer)”
Absinthe is legal in Louisiana. Or New Orleans at least. I had it on Bourbon Street a week and half ago.
My thoughts exactly. I went to college, and I had to struggle until I found a job. It’s tough, but it can be done. Working hard and paying taxes for those who don’t care to work? Yeah…it’s….um…awesome.
Send me a pic. 🙂
I’ve always seen this blog as mocking the “intelligent” liberals, not being written by them.
And I’m a conservative. I understand what’s going on here. And I don’t disagree with liberals because I’m stubborn, I disagree because they’re wrong.
It isn’t free. You are paying for it through taxes. Why do people think it is free?
Is it evil to make money? If we don’t charge more than the service costs, then no one would make any money. If I went to medical school and through residency I would definitely want to charge more than my services cost to make up for the education costs and opportunity costs.
You are so full of shit. Lawsuits are not the reason health care is so expensive. Health care is expensive, because so many people don’t pay for the services they receive, that they have to get the money from somewhere. That somewhere is you.
Insurance company propoganda has destroyed your constitutional right to redress your grievances in a court of law. When was the last time you heard of a Harvard doctor practicing medicine at a county hospital. It doesn’t happen. Why? Because those hospitals have no incentive to hire the most talented medical students as doctors. Why? Because dipshits like you have given up your right to file lawsuits against doctors who work at these county and non-profit hospitals. Consequently, people like my dad end up being treated by some doctor that barely speaks english, and graduated from medical school in Phrihaptibangledeshghata, India (or some other damn place), instead of Harvard, Stanford, or UTMB.
People like you would probably trade away your right to vote if it meant the government would wipe your ass for you for the rest of your life.
We put a Man on the Moon cuz we wuz scared shitless of the Ruskies.
Now we aint scared of nobdy (or everybody– which is it today?) & look at the shit we’re in…
I agree that it’s time for a post about how much white people like to think their smarter than everyone else by arguing (passionately) on the internet.
Not that they don’t do that anywhere else.
Now, that’s odd: Frank doesn’t like it when Canada >doesn’tdoes<. I think he just doesn’t like health care for everybody. Just for Frank, I bet. You work for the government, Frank? General Motors as an exec? phn!
Now, that’s odd: Frank doesn’t like it when Canada >doesn’tdoes<. I think he just doesn’t like health care for everybody. Just for Frank, I bet. You work for the government, Frank? General Motors as an exec? phn!
Now, that’s odd: Frank doesn’t like it when Canada doesn’t give second opinions, and he doesn’t like it when it does. I think he just doesn’t like health care for everybody. Just for Frank, I bet. You work for the government, Frank? General Motors as an exec? phn!
Yah, that puzzles me, too. (Seriously.) And on the other side, Americans think they aren’t paying “taxes” for health care. Taxes to help build hospitals, taxes to pay government employees’ health care, indigent care entitlements, elderly and disabled health care entitlements, childrens’ health care entitlements, taxes for social security and public services for the disabled because they didn’t get good health care or the health care they got broke them financially, taxes to pay for special education for kids whose mom got lousy prenatal care, and much more. And what exactly is insurance? Sounds like taxes that insurance companies collect to pay for health insurance for wealthy lucky people, to me. Regressive taxes, in fact. Maybe all those people without health care are fortunate, because they don’t have to pay so much for health care. As long as they don’t need it, that is. phn!
Don’t listen to ’em, Pink! They don’t know where Europe is either! (Hint: it’s to the left of Gamma Globulin) phn!
Yep. That’s why we have such a surplus of doctors. . . in rural Kansas. phn!
Well, stop. It’s hard to read. phn!
I like baseball. phn!
Yes, guilty as charged. I think a lot more people would work for themselves if the health insurance situation was easier…
You know, you ought to rename this blog Stuff Dipshit Conservatives Don’t Like. Because that’s basically all you do. “Here’s something liberals like! And they only like it because they’re self-hating vampires of the night! I’m so fucking funny!” Count yourself lucky that you live in an era where retards like you and Perez Hilton can get famous because you have an internet connection.
“People like you would probably trade away your right to vote if it meant the government would wipe your ass for you for the rest of your life.”
HAHA. Best comment I’ve seen amidst all of this stupidity.
imagine a world where the smart, motivated students who want to get rich, and who at one point flocked to medical school, all go to business school instead because there is no money in medicine anymore. if you think i’m making this up, as your Gen. Practitioner how much he/she rakes in now, compared to what they made 10 years ago.
so here you are, and now that the masses of economically-driven students are going to law school and business school, rather than to med. school to become cardiologists and neurosurgeons, you have people applying and becoming every kind of doctor, who never would have gotten into medical school before, but now (in my fictitious futuristic example) that neurosurgeons are paid 1/3 of what they once were, the raw talent level of neurosurgeons (like say, what their MCAT/GPA scores were) has plummetted.
as you read this, you’re thinking “but there’s more to being a doctor than making money, if someone decides to get an MBA rather than an MD just because money, than I wouldn’t want that person operating on me anyway!” this is a legitimate response, and i have noticeably not addressed the personal/emotional traits that great doctors have and that many poor doctors lack, because this gripe is for a different day. my point is that if you want to attract the most talented people to do anything, you do it with money. it may be ugly, but money doesn’t lie. conversely, if you want to drive the smartest, most motivated, hardest-working students into careers in law and business, instead of keeping these students pursuing medicine, the surest way is to monkey with their salaries and cap what they can earn, and make the over-regulation of medicine such a grim prospect that these kids think “umm, practicing medicine would be great, but it’s just not WORTH it.”
for my part, when the time comes for me to have that quadruple bypass or tumor removed from my brain, i’m not going to give a shit whether the guy or girl cutting into me is a nice person, whether they have bedside manner, or whether they are practicing medicine “for the right reasons.” none of that will matter to me in the slightest, because none of this has any bearing on whether I’m going to live or die. rather, i hope that that surgeon drives a Porsche, lives in a mansion, summers in the hamptons, which was all made possible because of graduating at the top of the class at some ridiculous ivy league medical school, from doing a residency at Mayo and in general, from being an Obsessive-Compulsive money-grubbing freak of nature. make our system of medicine and insurance into Canada’s, and this kid gives medicine the finger and becomes the CEO of a Fortune 500 Company instead, and makes the money doing something else.
maybe you are fine with this result. maybe you think that a higher salary doesn’t necessarily translate to attracting better quality/more talented employees. maybe money/cost/expense doesn’t really make things better. maybe you’re right. what is the difference then, if any, between a Mercedes and a Chevy? just $40K in the sticker price and a different emblem on the hood? might the cost be related to quality, maybe you get more when you pay more?
if not, talent/work ethic/compensation/quality aren’t inextricably related, why aren’t there more members of MENSA waiting tables or teaching 3rd Grade, and why does Puff Daddy’s Criminal Defense lawyer bill out at $500/hr. while the Public Defender is free? why did Tiger Woods bank 7 Zillion dollars last year, while S. Hank Master made a paltry $40K? Because some are good and others are less good.
Your not being factual either, there are more poor white people receiving welfare, medicaid, and food stamps than there are non whites, so you can shut yer non-factual (racist) trap. Besides what’s wrong with providing a safety net so people can eat and get healthcare when they get sick. Or are you one of those Bushie, repub, greedy, social darwinist, a-holes that would rather just let kids and their mothers eat out of garbage cans, starve to death, and die of untreated asthma?
So many words, so little said.
Well F*** this Blog…. Michael Moore is not a fraud. He never stated in the movie that foreigners in Canada got free health care. He did state that a foreigner in England (totally different country) did receive free care. There was an American who went to Canada for health care, and had to fraudulently say she was married to a Canadian resident friend in order to receive the care there. So get your facts straight. And maybe you should have researched the health care in Canada before you took a trip, you’d have thought to get some insurance to cover you while there. Idiot.
You have it all backwards. People who have chronic, incurable diseases are screwed with the current system, since currently can’t get insurance coverage for a preexisting condition. If you had an incurable debilitating disease you would know that. The way the system works now, is private insurance companies can choose to cover only the healthy people and deny care to sick people. That’s why we have 30 million uninsured people in this country, and it’s mostly poor and sick people. You don’t sound like you know much about the state of healthcare in this country, either that or you’ve been watching too much 24-hour news. I suggest you do some more reading before spouting out “talking points” that have no meaning or basis in fact. What you said makes no sense at all.
I doubt you’ve ever been to Canada or had an MRI there. As far as I can see Canada is much higher on the list of quality health care than the U.S. is, which is currently down there with Cuba. How can you even say that the quality of our healthcare is better than Canada when it is so obviously not, and everyone knows it.
It is true that taxes would increase to pay for national healthcare, but a huge cost of private healthcare is the cost of paying insurance companies to decide who is elegible for care. With a government payed system, this entire very costly function, which only results in less people getting healthcare, would be eliminated.
There is no such thing as free healthcare, there are only different ways of paying for it. Right now we wasting 31% of health care dollars on the insurance bureaucracy (which would be eliminated under a single-payer system). And no, we don’t also have to have wait times. We spend twice the dollars per patient as does Canada. For the same dollars we are spending today on health care we could provide first class care to 100% of the population.
So true about the “they have it in Europe” point. This blog is hilarious. http://www.stuffethnicpeoplelike.com is good too.
who wouldnt love free health care? DUH!
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Of course… That is of course if you decide who goes to college by who has the most money (charging fees) rather than merit.
Or the state could realise like it has in many countrys (Ireland) that education is a general good and those who go to become docters should be the smartest not the richest, and fork out for that to.
Just saying is all…..
Interesting isn’t how this flocking to “business school” hasn’t happened in any country with socialised health care. How much money is there in the study of History? English? All morons there yea?
Europe=Not currently on fire
Yes yes, not free, we pay for it with taxs, very perceptive of you all. Yawn. Free at the point of service. You know whats ment.
I only wish what you said was true,
I’m a first year medical student at a state-run allopathic medical institution here in America. My out of state tuition runs about $55,000 a year – not counting housing. Even for an in-state student it is around $35,000. For some reason, every one I know in my class is paying for this own education – by taking out gigantic loans. This is because the US hasn’t quite set the get in if you’re rich system in medical school admissions. My school had close to 7800 applicants last year for around 200 spots – it may even be more competitive than Ireland. So competitive, in fact, that you actually need to be extremely well qualified to get in. That’s why so many people take a year or two off after college to do research and work towards making themselves more competitive. Now, if realistically considering being $140 -220,000+ in debt after 4 years isn’t enough, we then go through residency making on average $40,000-ish a year. Post-residency, we find ourselves probably a few hundred thousand in debt, given that interest keeps accruing, and finally on the job market. Oh, throw in the fact that most people are going to be in the late 20’s to early 30’s by now so they may choose to start a slightly important (yet expensive) thing called a family at this time. It all gets to be very expensive, and it is a reason why doctors demand the salaries they do and a reason why many stay in debt for many, many years.
I don’t know what you do or where you’re actually from. Most likely you’re American – as am I. Nonetheless, I don’t think you can legitimately say that that everything I mentioned above points to a system that is only out to reward the rich. I understand that you may see Europe as the gold-standard for government policy, but do realize that it too is far from utopia. The wave of immigration that Europe is dealing with today was not there when they mandated the level of socialist policies they have now. Do you think the Swedes, French, Germans, Spanish, etc.. would have voted to be taxed for healthcare for all when they knew 10,000,000 migrants that look nothing like them (ie the were not white) would be coming into the country every year? The elephant in the room that nobody speaks about is that part of the reason why Europe moved so fast in these programs is due to their lack of diversity. You’re more likely to support a socialist program when you know its going to benefit someone that looks, talks, and thinks like you. As that changes to this day, we see the political issues faced by these countries now (France, Germany, Spain, etc).
Europe may be doing some things that look great, but Europe is not America. It’s America’s diversity and ‘melting pot’ nature that has helped us become so great. We just wouldn’t have become the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world without all of the immigrants (legal, illegal, or forced) that came here. At the same time, this has also given us some major issues in our history.
Health care is mostly troubled by inefficiency. Close to 70% of insurance costs go into administration. Not medical equipment, not doctor’s salaries, not patient treatment, but in paperwork, legal issues, and overhead. Even though a state run system may cut much of the ‘overhead’, the main thing you risk is turning something as valuable as healthcare over to the government. As you may know, the NHS (UK) faces a budget crises most every year because the national budget always runs short as the projected costs don’t meet the demand. This leads to a runaway program that will increase in costs progressively with time (well above inflation) and come to become like most other government programs: slow, inefficient, and frustrating (USPS, DMV, Social Security). Perhaps the solution is neither pure capitalism or pure socialism, but rather a well-regulated private sector. One that allows for free-market competition to keep costs down (as it does with every other market) while still maintaining the ethical standards necessitated with as ‘unique’ a ‘commodity’ as health-care (equal access, availability, etc..).
If the Looney rose against the Dollar that would make imported American goods cheaper to buy douche bag…
It is not just ” whit people” everyone like free health care . Unless you all really do love deciding between what surgerys you can aford to take . hmmm heart surgery or aford to eat , live , buy a house
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Your comment about public education is incorrect. You must not have children.
Elite whites do not like public education although they can thank their public educations for their paychecks.
Elite whites who do not like public education have never put their kids in public education, and have no idea that the schools in their elite white neighborhoods are better than the retro backwater Catholic private schools they are subjecting to their future ADD drug-scarred maladjusted 20 something ski instructors.
Dear White people Soon I will know everything about. The me Obama and reverend wright will launch the revolution. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAh
http://aniggaincyberspace.com/2008/04/11/black-nerd-revolution/
Yes, but with free healthcare and free education, it’s not like it’s the end of the world. I’d rather pay higher taxes every year than try to keep up with insurance premiums and student loan payments.
Yeah, Peg, see my comment immediately above. Since you’re not paying hefty insurance premiums & deductibles (nor student loans for that matter), taxes aren’t such a big deal.
Everything in #94 is completely true except for one small
detail. Soccer? Who the f**k cares about this sport?
All this blog does is reinforce resistance to and nullify the social changes educated (mostly white) people are trying to establish in the United States. Jerkass… Vote Nader
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You are an asshole yourself…this is obviously a list of stuff designed to make people laugh. In any event, thus far the author has not mentioned “white people loving pricks who take themselves too seriously.” Lighten up Frances!
Seriousness is stupidty sent to college.
You are an asshole yourself…this is obviously a list of stuff designed to make people laugh. In any event, thus far the author has not mentioned “white people loving pricks who take themselves too seriously.” Lighten up Frances!
Seriousness is stupidty sent to college.
~ PJ O’Rourke
educated white people? i doubt you could sound any more elitist. and nader? seriously, you want that guy to hand another election to the republicans?
I’m American but I have lived in Canada for 29 years. Yes, I pay more in taxes. Big deal. Canada has a budget surplus while the U.S., with its lower taxes, is in debt for the next 5 generations.
But about health care. I have had 7 kidney stone attacks. Five were handled in the emergency room and two put me in the hospital. One required that I be airlifted from a small town to a larger city. Total out of pocket cost…zero.
I have three children born here. One was hospitalized for two weeks after birth. Total out of pocket cost. Zero.
With three kids the visits to the emergency room over the years numbered what was probably close to 80 or 90. Out of pocket cost to me. Zero.
I have had a minimum of 6 MRI’s, two CT scan and four ultrasounds for other medical problems. Total out of pocket cost to me. Zero.
I have never waited longer than one week to see a GP. I have never waited more than a month to see a specialist.
I needed an ultra sound for a problem I saw my GP for two weeks ago. I had the ultra sound in two days.
My ex wife went through three years of treatment, heart specialist, irradiation of her thyroid (twice). Total out of pocket to me. Zero.
I have two elective surgeries planned for this year. Guess what. I don’t care if I need to wait a few months. Beats the hell out of paying for it. If someone was offered the option of…we can do it in two weeks for $20,000 or in two months for free….every one would wait two months. No doubt about it.
The comments about second opinions. The original poster of the “no second opinions in Canada” may have been referring to the fact that if your doctor says you need a certain treatment..there is not someone in an insurance office refusing to authorize it until they get another opinion, or three. If the patient in Canada wants a second opinion, it is that patients right, at no cost.
I recently priced health insurance in Florida for a family of four..as I will be relocating there. $900 a month with a $2,500 deducible for each person and a 20% copay.
There are no deductibles or copays in Canada’s Health Care.
My fellow Americans have been brainwashed by the Health Insurance Industry into believing falsehoods about Canadian health care. Why? Because they are making huge profits at your expense and they do not want you to see the truth.
I’ll wait now for the juvenile ones here to chime in with their well chosen profanity..which only demonstrates their lack of intelligence.
Clearly, a lot of white people don’t like socialized health care. They fear it for some ideological reasons, despite the fact that all the other countries have it. It’s all some red-scare bullshit.
Maybe you all should do a post titled: “Being Afraid of Single Payer Health Insurance”. Of course, this would be a whole different group of white people — you know what I mean.
People of color LOVE the idea of health care for everyone. It’s white people who OPPOSE it.
“There are no second opinions under the Canadian system.”
What??? I was born and raised in Canada. You can get as many opinions as you want. You can go to numerous doctors to get 2nd, 3rd & 4th opinions. I don’t know how you came up with that one.
Dom,
Intelligent liberal is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as an intelligent liberal.
Your argument around the inefficiency of public health care has been addressed in a study done by the New England Journal of Medicine (Volume 349:768-775 August 21, 2003 Number 8): “Conclusions: The gap between U.S. and Canadian spending on health care administration has grown to $752 per capita. A large sum might be saved in the United States if administrative costs could be trimmed by implementing a Canadian-style health care system.” Granted, it was done based on 1999 numbers, but nothing has happened since to reverse the trend. Also, the objections that Sakheet raises in his response (Volume 349:2461-2464 December 18, 2003 Number 25) can be further objected to by pointing to the false premise of his point that “In the United States, persons who wish to spend more on health care than the norm have a simple way of doing so: they can purchase premium private medical insurance.” This is only true if you add the word “rich” to the “persons” to whom he is referring. There isn’t much of a “choice” for everyone who can’t afford it or don’t have one of those rare jobs that provide it for him/her.
white people like to pretend they know what they’re talking about
when are white people gonna realize that the gov fucks up everything it gets a hold of. including health care.
… took a while, but now we’ve hit the meat of the issue…
According to Hayek, the government isn’t supposed to play a role in the economy.
So we seem to have an issue here.
Oh, and as it turns out: we DO have socialist education. Especially in states like NJ.
Everyone is still dumb. Explain that.
My dad got a pacemaker the day after he passed out on the side of the road. His care following that hospital stay has been excellent.
My uncle in the UK, had a very similar incident, same cardiac problem, and while he got an “opinion” right away, NHS took months to decide if he ought to have a pacemaker. Meanwhile, he was afraid to leave his apartment, lest he collapse again.
Basically, MY ANECDOTE IS BETTER THAN YOURS, SO I WIN!
You’ve obviously never visited the Sowell household…
Hi, I’m black. I would like free healthcare, because whitey has pinned me down and all I can do is drink Red Dog 40s all day ’cause my sciatica/sickel cell/lazy bone has been actin’ up somethin’ fierce. I own you whitey, cause your people kept my great-great-great-great grandfather’s first cousin as a slave. Fear me!
Maybe add how white people like flaming each other on blog forums.
All good points money does motivate people, probably more than what most of us realize.
However, I’d like to submit a bit of a flaw in your logic. Why is it that the United States ranks so low on all international health care statistics when compared to other western nations (and Japan)? If like you say, the for-profit system motivates the best talent, then why is it the average American isn’t the healthiest person in the world? Although I do partially concur with your Mercedes analogy, it is expensive like your healthcare system, but doesn’t offer near the best quality.
Um. Frank. I don’t know what country you live in (or province) – but you can in fact go to as many doctors and get as many opinions as you like under the Canadian health care system. There’s no limit on how many doctors you can see for a problem.
I have had second opinions many times in Canada.
And third opinions.
You’re reading your blog’s critics, aren’t you? The Eurocentrism thing has been mentioned elsewhere.
There’s another response to this specific health care post here: http://metastuffwhitepeoplelike.blogspot.com/2008/04/communism-re-94-free-healthcare.html
this column #94 is right on. it is part of the America bashing resulting from white people sending their children to colleges where the professors wash thier brains in political correctness and yearn to be Euros.
white people love national public radio becuase someone else is paying for the content and it reinforces their secret hatred of America and their secret love for either the fascist dictators of Europe or their secret desire to be blue blood aristocrats and their desire to tell everyone else what to think and say
white people love to discuss moral dilemmas as it makes them feel superior and in control like that is the only way to discuss “issues” which is another thing that white people have, issues, along with laptop computers and hankerings (a white word) for tall decaffeinated lattes made with soy milk and honey
these comments are not white since they are brilliant and shiny like diamonds because someone is starting to do the math about health care that nothing is free
he probably called them gooks when they were stabbing his ass hole with bamboo pokers when he was a prisoner of war brount down when he was FIGHTING FOR YOU FREEDOM.
as if the government could run anything efficiently? are you people mad?
you are so white to talk like this…
ethical standards, commodity, market competition…blah blah…
Can you please change this blog to Stuff White Urban Liberals Like, I’m sick of people assuming just because I’m white I’m a marxist hipster.
Obviously Roman has no bachelors. Maybe if he had attended college, he could come up with his own dumbass quips, instead of using others’?
Obviously Roman has no bachelors. Maybe if he had attended college, he could come up with his own dumbass quips, instead of using others’?
also, learn to say everything you want to before you add a comment. double posting is for rednecks
But you ARE a marxist hipster!
yeah seriously … get a life.
I’m still amazed at how this post got 1200+ comments. I’m also amazed at how many people actually made it to the bottom of the comments. For all of you people that did, check out DO NOT WANT You. If it’s not funny I will punch myself in the face.
So my elective hip replacement that is so debilitating that i cant event walk is going to have to wait a few months. Or better yet, i need to get a hysterectomy, tubal ligation, remove tissue samples that could be cancerous for a biopsy, or even better yet angioplasty or putting in a pacemaker. Stop trying to pretend that the canadian healthcare system beats the american healthcare system in every manner. I would like to see canada deal with a population of 300,000 (and illegal aliens) and still keep there free healthcare.
uh, who’s against it?
If you name you kid DING! s/he will hate you. That will help your whiteness according to post #17.
Umm, I believe Francis is he to whom you are referring.
prick who takes himself too seriously
I likes me some free healthcare. And some fried chik’n and waffles.
Also, you owe me for that slavery thing. Please give me money. And healthcares. And crack. Not the butt kind.
Wow. I came to see if anyone had noted that absinthe is, in fact, legal in the US now, but there were so many comments to sort through that I gave up, and I’m just letting you know! It seems like another thing that white people will soon like, even more now.
so not true. do some research you idiot. the huge cost of health care is modern meds and technology. insurance margins are quite thin. 1980 medicine is available quite freely in socialist countries – but if you’re like most whiteys here, you want 2008 medical treatment but you don’t want to pay for it. What a schmuck!
so more than $250k is immoral? Is that the magic number? So your issue is about the fact there is no arbitrary limit in America as to how much people can make? Judgmental a-hole!
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Liza, what a shitty thing for YOU to write. Obviously you don’t know how much worse socialized medicine would be than any complaint you will ever have about US Healthcare. Get a frickin clue! How about doing some detailed research into the consequences of socialized medicine, as evidenced by all of the countries that have already tried it, before you come on this blog throwing curse words arouind for no good reason. LOL
::sheeeesh::
That is funny that you say you are black, because you sound more like an ignorant white person to me. LOL I bet you are one of those people who thinks that affirmative action for black people is bad if they are not the most qualified person for the job, but yet when your white uncle needs a job, you are happy to hire him, even though he is not the most qualified person for the job. So how is that not affirmative action? White people only like affirmative action when it is for their own people. LOL
It sounds to me more like “Intelligent Bob” is an oxymoron. LOL
It actually takes more intelligence to step outside of a brainwashed conservative christian perspective to decide that it might actually be okay for there to be different types of people in our society.
But that goes against the concept of Mandatory “Family Values” enforced on every citizen by the Federal Government, so it can’t possibly be intelligent, right? LOL
Why is it intelligent to decide that the Government should be able to decide what type of peaceful person is okay, and what type of peaceful person is not okay. For Example, why should the government get to decide that homosexuals can’t get married and have the same rights as heterosexuals? I think you will find that the liberal perspective actually requires a higher level of analytical intelligence in order to understand how it is a good thing to have people in your society that you do not understand.
Repeat after me. Social programs create more people who need social programs. And these people will undoubtedly vote to increase the level of social programs. Regardless of whether you are white or black, the real issue is whether or not you understand that rewarding a behavior produces more of that behavior. You are obviously one of those people who thinks that funding for social programs gets magically created in a vacuum.
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Soccer…… who cares about this sport?? Are you shitting me? Lets try every country except Canada and the US….. yeah I guess this makes me a dumb white guy but seriously…. it may be un-popular in North America but come-on now don’t kid yourself with an un-educated statement.
Man it could be sooo easy to bash so many of the responces on here but why bother….. no matter what is said on here it will always be attacked by a “god bless America” ” we can do no wrong” kinda person who will always dissagree with a non-USA view point.
Free health care kicks ass…… high taxes suck but they are getting smaller (13% Whoop Whoop) Our govenrment (Canada) is pretty pathetic for the most part and is the reason for a lot of our countries problems but show me a country that isn’t that way…..
Anyway…. enjoy ripping this up …..
And after the dust settles, only happyjack remains.
With the Stuff White People Like blog officially slain, it’s time for me to move on to more challenging prey. Perhaps I’ll meet some of you on my next target.
Stuff White People Like died on April 17th, 2008. RIP.
$45.00 ambulance bill? Try $300
All people should like this blog…but they probably won’t
http://www.artgonewrong.blogspot.com
This blog is idiotic and seems like it was written by the shallow, mean spirited ignoramous who writes the “Dos and Don’ts” for VICE Magazine. It should be retitled “What upper class guilty white liberals who shop at Whole Foods like.”
If you’re going to say “get a sense of humor,” it’s not about that. This is as funny as Islamic terrorists dousing a child in gasoline.
Under the Canadian health care system, you can go to as many doctors as you’d like for additional opinions, as long as you are referred to them from other doctors. Because this is not a consumer market, you cannot just decide to see a specialist/ doctor at any time; you must be referred to each doctor by some other doctor/ health care professional. This is where the difficulty lies for most people.
Brian, it’s your choice if you’d like to pay higher taxes and then have the government decide/design the quality/quantity of your healthcare, but don’t be disappointed when it is not to your satisfaction. Also, it is by no means free. I’d prefer customizing my insurance plan to my personal needs and lifestyle (thereby controlling the price and quality of my health care) and taking out student loans to maximize the quality of my education. As a graduate of an Ivy League business school, my salary reflects my education and this is why I’m able to pay off those loans so quickly. Calculate the net present value of your investments in your education versus future salaries to be earned over your lifetime. Be sure to incorporate the probabilities of receiving different salaries given where you study, and you’ll see the payoff of deciding/paying for your own services. This is NOT to say that I do not believe in aiding those who cannot afford adequate healthcare, I just also believe in a person’s right to choose. I think that a two-tiered system is the best compromise (and the most realistic and attainable on the short term with minimal governmental reform).
Agreed. I hope the blog really is dead like everyone is saying.
At first I thought: This blog is a slightly cleverer rehash of Ye Olde 1980s Young Republican campaign: “Burn the Latte Drinkers!”
Then I read the posted commentaries under this particular out-in-right-field fantasy, which clued me in to the fact that this blog has maybe nothing to do with cleverness.
I’d bet an actual person of color has never even looked at this site. It’s just a blog where DC/Dallas/Houston/Florida/SoCal/Denver/Phoenix whites can bitch about NYC/SF/MSP/PDX/Seattle whites, who, infuriatingly, have the Colbert show on their side.
You know what would be really funny, because it would, see, relate to reality? What if we anthropologically dissected the um, white people? That is, the 92% of them instead of the 8% of them?
List of things white people *really* like:
#1 driving small, motorized vehicles with gaseous engines over tree stumps
#2 8-ton cars for tiny, blonde women
#3 gay sex through bathroom holes in MN
#4 women lying in beds in FL whose brains have turned into a stale liquid
#5 box seats high above the court where you can get hammered with other people who made their money speculating on companies that considered making software housing tracts for hoarding commodities
#6 keeping their kids in special white schools
#7 making working class organizing illegal
#8 pointing to Diebold voting machines and Obama flyers in the mail to support their historically-unsupported contention that the US is a democracy
#9 being personally saved by a figment of their collective imagination
#10 eating lots of shit and not moving with their own bodies!
What a gas.
If I have to spend time on a blog where I can consider with awe all the people who are never going to get anywhere mentally or emotionally in this lifetime, and sometimes I do find this an enjoyable waste of time because I’m not going to be the next Buddha either, I’m going back to the good old blogs with photos of dilapidated celebrities, and read the sad-ass comments there. It’s gold: “Linda Evangelista is soooo ugly without makeup, but Halle Berry is still cute!”
this is one of the most poorly-argued and factually confused critiques of the free market I’ve ever read.
But if it’s anything like New Zealand (also public health) you can still have private health insurance and bypass a referral or pay for it yourself. Public and market can coexist, our health system rocks. Now if only we wern’t such a fucking small country and could retain doctors….
Germany, England, France, just to name a few.
worm*wood* dumbass.
Some of these don’t apply to rednecks, oh sorry, I mean conservatives
Frank, I hope you live in a world with no free health care so that when you get sick and die, the overall human species will benefit from that gain.
I hate to get involved in these arguments, but I’m from the states and I’ve been living in France for the past year and a half, and it must be said, the health care here is phenomenal. Hands down a better system than back home. I’ll admit, there are issues, but all in all, I much prefer these issues to the ones Americans face.
Also, I keep reading comments about the best Canadian doctors moving to the US to make more money… but aren’t Canadians far healthier overall? Brag all you want about having good doctors in the US, but I think the fact that Americans are dying younger speaks volumes. I mean, sweet, you have a great surgeon, but what if your insurance finds a loophole and won’t pay? Great surgeons are only useful if you can get them to operate on you.
On that note, I want to make sure everyone is aware that I don’t honestly believe the American doctors are any more or less gifted than those in Canada or France.
I don’t know Mike, my aunt at home has been waiting for a shoulder surgery for quite some time now… that’s the United States. Are you sure it’s really that fast?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
go here
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/
Ok if giving a cogent, well-educated answer to a dificult question is a qulity of being white, then I applaud this guy for his whiteness. What are you saying John Smith? Only white people can sound intelligent?
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I am thoroughly white, having come from an all-European lineage, and I can’t say I appreciate this website on the basis that it is completely wrong about everything! I don’t have an affinity for practically anything listed on this sight. Even though I would like to believe this blog is simply a joke, I know better. I hate rugby, the idea of socialized healthcare, europe, new balance running shoes, and most importantly racist assholes with equally racist blogs. This blog is utterly worthless.
that’s pretty white of you to say you had a great health care treatment. during you travels abroad.
5 stars!
i love the idea of giving up half my paycheck every week so that people who dont want to get up and get a job can go to the dentist for free…
Good one!
EVOLUTION
fok u Jose
T_MB: Unfortunately, you don’t seem to have a clue what this is all about. This is a blog by an educated, liberal white person that makes fun of the likes and dislikes of other educated, liberal white people. Having gone to a college where most students fit this category, I can assure you that, when dealing with the social category he is analysing, the author is spot on. In fact, he describes me quite well, and I’m only half-white. 🙂
I’m half-white, but I love the idea of free healthcare. We’re worthless as a society if we don’t take care of the afflicted among us. That’s true whichever way you want to look at it: whether from a religious or secular humanist perspective.
do you even have time to read through all of these comments? may as well be a chat room. jesus h. christ.
i love your blog. just wanted to tell you that. i come by here often and find your shit absolutely f-ing hil.ar.i.ous. (as that is the way i need to put it, evidently.)
TGIFF. thank god it’s fucking friday.
In Canada you can see as many GP’s as you like, but you need a referral to see a specialist.
Old white folks like universal health care for the reasons you give.
Young white people like it because they know they ain’t getting no health insurance anymore without it.
What seems obvious is that healthcare is a sore point in the land of the free…from free medical care. A lot of “from my cold dead hand” mentality Americans seem to think free medical care is something a nation has in tandem with being socialist or by implication…Communist!! I would have thought that a certain nostalgia for communism would be emerging by now. Ah remember the good old days when our enemies had a country and a flag but as Reagan pointed out, if the martians invaded we’d all gang together to defeat them?
Ah the towering intellect of that man.
And terrorism; my how that’s changed. Remember when the IRA gave warnings before they bombed? Ah, the gentlemen bombers of the IRA. The good old days.
So yes, we have free medical care in the UK, and most of Europe, it’s the mark of a civilization and the lack of it in the US is hardly surprising.
This site is just an excuse for IGNORANT so called conservative Republicans to trash liberals. So funny that the stupid illiterate crackers from Alabama, and Mississippi, and places like that still love Bush, and the War. They are playing into white peoples hands (you know the kind with money) so keep being STOOPID.
I think Frontlines special on health care said it best. When they interviewed physicians for national health care countries these physicians had the same things to say:
1) We wish we made the $ that US doctors do. Upper middle class is not enough.
2) There is no lines for socialized medicine. There is less wait than the US health care system. We work too much.
3) We have to insure everyone, even if you are sick.
4) There are limits to what we can bill and the co-pays are low. No $15 aspirin tabs.
5) Hospitals and doctors compete for patients. If a physician or hospital does not get enough patients coming to it; it closes.
The special was very different from what politicians say. Look under Frontline at http://www.pbs.org
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I work for a health insurance company in the US, in fact, I am at work right now (don’t tell my boss). And I don’t know about other companies, but at my company you do have to have a referral for a second opinion. You also have to have a referral to get an specialty care, or to get an MRI or MRA or anything like that. If you want to see a specialist who is not within my company’s provider network, you not only have to get a referral from your primary doctor, but the company has to approve the referral. If the person approving the referral does not think it is medically necessary, then they won’t approve it and you can’t see your specialist. So I don’t see what’s different with this than the Canadian system other than in Canada you don’t have to pay to go through all this bullshit.
hmm. they don’t do they? maybe that’s cause, the last I checked, which is all the time for years and years, most college-educated white people are right wing conservative neocon neoliberals barely distinguishable from fascists (who are right wing) by the small factor of not having to get too uptight because their daddies pay their tuition, nose jobs, relocation to LA or DC costs, weddings at the country club, mortgage downpayments, new SUV/Beamer, etc.
seriously is the idea that right wing college educated people and right wing high school educated people can be put in one tidy caricature box all that difficult? because you should check out US politics. it’ll blow your mind. there are these massive organizations, see–the SPN and Focus on the Family, and their job is to do just that: build ties between these two spectacular groups of white people.
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Yes, it’s true. I’m white and have really good health care. At the same time, I believe that a universal health care system is a good idea. I believe everyone deserves to have medical treatment. Why should I get it but not the next the person? Frankly, that doesn’t seem right to me. I just think if someone has a system that works better than ours, why not give it a shot?
I as well have a chronic disease (in the US) and have a 3 month waiting period for my next specialist appointment.
If noone pays for healthcare then perhaps you could call Alberta Health for me and ask why they keep sending me bills?
I presume that it is YOU that is 12 and likely still living with your parents who pay the bills for that kind of thing.
It’s not free, but is cheap. Mine is subsidized so it’s currently free but I had to do alot of hassling Alberta health to stop telling me that I owe them 300 dollars in previous unpaid healthcare bills.
Obviously you don’t know anything about how healthcare in Canada works and have never seen a provincial health care bill in your life, so I will explain it to you:
Canadian health care is income based. Those without do not pay for health care. Those with pay for health care. You can ask for subsidy forms where you tell them your income and they decide how much you pay from there.
Insurance administrative overhead runs close to 30% as a national average – that’s 30 cents of every dollar that is not being spent on actual care. Compare that to Medicare, where the government’s administrative overhead is closer to 3%. Which entity is using their money more efficiently?
It’s actually 30% overhead on average for insurance companies vs. 3% for government-run programs like Medicare.
I would rather have my tax money used more efficiently and to cover everyone, rather than have 30% of the premiums I pay go towards jacking up CEO pay and profit margins at the expense of people who are denied treatment by the insurance companies to pay for those things.
Most poor people, and growing numbers of middle class people, do not have healthcare through their employers because their employers cannot afford it either.
And you’re right – 40 million uninsured in America *IS* a bogus number. It’s actually closer to 48 million now.
It’s a lot more cost efficient than private insurance companies.
He called his wife a c–t. That’s slightly hateful.
People are dying in America because they can’t get any treatment at all. Tell me how great THAT is.
Are you opposed to the socialized military or the socialized police force or the socialized trash collection system too?
Completely wrong. The only time you cannot be turned down for care is if you come to a hospital with a life threatening emergency, like you’re having a heart attack. Once you’ve been stabilized, the hospital is under no obligation to treat you further. Hospitals are having to cut back on their charity care because they can’t afford to do it anymore, and most local public health care systems are being dismantled bit by bit.
God forbid you find yourself uninsured and diagnosed with something like cancer. No hospital in the world will give you chemo or radiation for free.
At least then every one would have access to SOME kind of health care. That does sound brilliant to me.
Human beings of all colors like being able to get health care.
But I bet you’re okay with the socialized fire department or the socialized military, yeah?
Wait – so the sarcastic bit from your post was “Since we have, generally, privatized medicine in the US, we have minimal waits for anything and everything,” right?
Actually, the train wreck is produced by the insurance companies under a private/public scenario. The insurance companies will cherry pick and only choose to insure the healthiest people – and once those folks start breaking down and getting sick, they will be shuttled off to the public system. The insurance companies will take care of the healthiest and the government will be left to take care of the sickest. OF COURSE it will appear that the government is spending more – they WILL be spending more. That’s why Canada’s model of public care only is the most viable. If you’re an American who is wealthy enough to travel outside the US for treatment under that kind of program, then you probably don’t need public care in the first place.
More like, thank you profit-driven private insurance system!
They will look for ANY reason to deny you coverage because that is how they make their money.
Best of luck to you and yours.
You ever get a student loan, JP? Ask yourself this: why the hell should someone else have to subsidize your education like that? Or why should anyone who is against the war have to pay taxes to support it? It’s called THE COMMON GOOD, is why. Why is this so difficult to understand?
You’d LIKE to think that you are in this world, making your own way solely on your own merit, but the truth is that you’ve been helped by other people your whole life, and you will continue to benefit from this kind of social collectivism until you die. Education (if public, paid for by taxpayers), student loans (subsidized by taxpayers), protection by police and fire services (taxpayers), garbage collection and road repair (taxpayers)…shall I go on? We do these things because there is a benefit to having an educated population; a benefit to having police and fire dept. protection; a benefit to having our garbage picked up and our roads maintained. And there is a benefit to keeping a healthy population as well.
Think of it like this: If we get hit with a flu pandemic in the next few years, as has been predicted, people without health care are going to get sick. So are people with health coverage. The problem is that people without might wait a lot longer to seek care – meaning that they are out there in the world, possibly spreading germs to others. Germs are not checking to see if there is an insurance card in your wallet before they infect you.
You take out any loans during your struggle, Chris? My taxes paid for that. How…um…awesome.
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I’m white, but I loathe the idea of “free” health care. I guess I can think for myself, something lefties can’t do.
“Free” health care means that taxes will go up and choices for health care will go down. End result? Equal MISERY. Health care sux in the UK and Canada and we have no business importing that dated idea here.
This is just a sop to get more illegal aliens to come here.
But that system does NOT work better than ours.
Did you know that most people lacking health care are those who do it by CHOICE? They’re usually young, stupid, and think they’re bulletproof. They’d rather have beer and pot money.
I went without health insurance until 1988 (I was 27). I found out I was no longer bulletproof.
My, my, my, aren’t you a tolerant one!
How pathetic.
i personally am white and live in the us. while i think socialized health care is a good idea, it seems that it would be difficult to implement it in our society.
even though i’m liberal and certainly am all for helping everyone in our country, i’m even more concerned with our federal deficit. adding more social programs will add to what i will eventually be required to pay off when i start paying taxes in a few years.
as a side note, absinthe is available in the united states now.
your care was “great” perhaps because appendicitis is a medical emergency…try being a laborer sidelined and having to take off for extreme debilitating pain in your back…try scheduling an mri of your lumbar spine to look for a herniated disk…bout a 6-8 week wait. try get and appointment with a neurosurgeon once the disc herniation and nerve compression are found…bout 6-8 weeks. try scheduling surgery to decompress the nerve…yes the doc will see you in the OR in 30-40 weeks…so that adds up to 50-56 weeks…a years wait and out of work to fix a chronic condition. same process in most us sytems? 4-6 weeks totals. hmmmm.
That’s the system in Australia.
You must be referred to a specialist by a GP.
It has always been like that.
Before Medicare and before Medibank,
that was how it was done.
“White people love all things European, this especially true of things that are unavailable in the United States (Rare Beers, Absinthe, legal marijuana, prostitution, soccer).”
Strange as it may seem, marijuana is actually illegal in the Netherlands, and not legal any place in Europe. There is not a court in the NL that will prosecute for simple possession, but pot is definitely illegal. The best way to look at it is the Dutch treat illegal pot the same way we treat illegal aliens.
The “more like Europe” crowd would be shocked at some of the things Europe can do that we cannot in America, such as explore for oil, build nuclear power plants, and allow cops to spot-check identification of its citizens. Yes, if you are stopped by a cop in the NL and do not have an ID ready to show him, it’s a 50 Euro fine.
More like Europe indeed – we should be just like them in many ways.
Uhmm… Canada has free health care, but if you’re foreign, and you get hurt here sorry bub, you don’t pay taxes, and we bill you for it… so yah… and to the last guy, its illegal in general yes, but there are DISTRICTS where you can legally smoke and grow it, such as the red light districts in the Netherlands, with other countries such as Germany having similar areas… its fun when you make shit up isn’t it? Wait no.. it just makes you a dick
Uh, I didn’t really wanna read through all the comments so if anyone else said this, sorry…..found a typo in the paragraph
Re: Miss Vicious
It seems that for working in our (United States) health care system, you’re a little ignorant of how commercialism works.
You see, I can see any specialist I want, as long as I can convince the receptionist or whoever to schedule me an appointment. Then, whether insurance covers the visit, or a portion of the visit, is actually up to the insurance company.
Actually elite Whites love public education. They just don’t like it for their kids. It’s great for everyone else.
This is why elite Whites are, for the most part, opposed to ideas like school choice and vouchers.
Heallthcare is so much more then just a race thing.
i love SWPL, but this is the one entry that hits a little too close to home. for me, universal health care isn’t about being more like europe, or being able to pursue a career in blogging. it’s about having an option to actually get ANY care. i’m a 25 year old cancer survivor and due to this, i am guaranteed to be refused private health insurance (i.e. that which isn’t offered under a group plan) for at least 10 years. after that, insurance companies -might- offer it to me, but at a much higher premium. i am blessed to have gotten insurance through my former employer, but i’ve seen others who are not so lucky.
just the option of having some sort of alternative insurance would be nice. i think it’d make those private companies need to straighten out a little more.
end blabla fest.
Why does he have to be really white? He’s ignorant, which someone who is ignorant, stupid, or retarded, don’t have to be white. Everyone can be stupid. This jerk on here just isn’t educated and is dumb. He knows nothing.
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Um, my grandparents are doctors in Canada. Yes there is!
Well even in Mexico when I got sick and hurt and “nearly” died I was treated better in the hospital than in the US. I live in France now and can tell you that health care here is even better than Sicko portrays it. I say “nearly” died because we white people like to imagine that we have almost died when small things happen to us like when we drop our expensive sandwiches, can’t find our rugby jersey, or have to drive by the local public school on the way home to our house in the hood.
My question is what do the 30-50 million uninsured Americans do? (lots of ’em are white…) Ignore their problem until it becomes an emergency, probably.
In sheer economic terms, it probably hurts the economy more to have so many uninsured not taking care of themselves for small things at first (sick days) and then getting really sick because of no diagnosis which puts a huge burden on hospitals, than to give uninsured the ability to have check-ups and avoid serious developments in the first place. So it is not clear to me that universal health care is going to be more expensive on the budget than having so many uninsured, who come in to the hospital when it’s way too late. Maybe a pack of peniccilin today would have saved them serious problems tomorrow. And “free health” care doesn’t mean you don’t pay anything, you just pay a lot less.
The author is getting lazy.
Second the motion funniest comment on board if you’re referring to tyler durden
Dear anon: brave of you to post your name — why so mean to someone to actually WORKS in the ins. for-profit industry and knows what she’s talking about? you simply (and rudely) reiterate what she is saying. When you refer to “commercialism” are you saying “for-profit”? Don’t you find it strange that our insurance industry corps are private companies that can say yes or no to a medical procedure that is, in most instances, a basic need (and should be a right) to the good people of our country? In order to save on their profits, for which they receive bonuses when they save extra $ by saying NO to your doctor’s recommendation? Or are you buying into the neo-conservative kool aid that if we try to make anything better, you are being unpatriotic and need to call people with whom you disagree rude names, a la Rush Limbaugh? I do not see the need for rudeness in any of these forums, please everyone, the world is not a big Jerry Springer show. YOu can simply disagree with people without becoming a chair-throwing, spittle spewing devolving monkey type. BE NICE. I guess those people who don’t care about anyone but themselves, who do not realize that when you have a society of sick people who cannot get the care they need, that it WILL actually affect them eventually, and until that happens, these folks will actually not give a care for anyone but themselves. I find it highly ironic that most people who disagree with implementing a national healthcare service, single payor service, all go to church and purport to be “good people” because they go to church. SIGH. It’s not just the system that’s broken, it’s the people. Good luck to all of us, I do not see it getting any better so long as everyone is infighting and not working to actually SOLVE problems. To me, in order to solve the problem of the conservative rush limbaughs, we need to force education on them a la Clockwork Orange, since they don’t seem interested in learning on their own, or having an open mind. Too bad closed minds don’t come w/ closed mouths.
lol, “socialized medicine” – in a system where we have “socialized” food, socialized police, socialized fireman, and the biggest government program in world history, the fucking military.
looks like someone listens to entertainment news and thinks it’s legitimate.s
Our health care costs twice as much as the most expensive socialized health care in the world and is far less efficient than the top ten. What don’t you understand?
Why did you bother to feign knowledge in the matters of economics. Did you not think someone who has an education in such a field would call you on it?
“education and healthcare were never supposed to be commodified and put on the market system in the first place.”
Who says so? You? Why make such a baseless comment and call it fact?
“also, according to Smith and Ricardo, government IS supposed to play a role in the market; it is supposed to restrict the flow of labor and capital from moving across borders.”
This is the biggest proof you have no idea what you are talking about. Ricardo major contributions to the science dealt with comparative advantage which is the basis for modern trade theory, which is also very contractictory to your claim that gov’t is supposed to stop labor across borders, which is very protectionist indeed.
Smith likewise, if you read wealth of nations, and you didn’t, said nothing of the sort.
“then you should get a better idea of what’s going on and why universal healthcare and other socialist policies are beneficial. in fact, if we had a socialist system of public education, you probably would have gotten a good education.”
Really? 85% of French citizens have some form of private health insurance, because as costs rise, gov’t had to cut back benefits. This is generally standard in many major gov’t affairs. It’s happening to Social Security, and it will happen to Medicare and Medicaid. As costs rise, governments face two options, tax more or spend less. Taxing more works only up unto a point, because if the tax rate gets too high (somewhat nebulous), tax revenue actually falls because there are disincentives to work, etc. So they spend less or spend the same and slowly cut benefits (which defeats the purpose).
The US has a public education system (socialized if you will), and has thus created a near monopoly of the education system, and the results are similar to other monopolized industries. Decreasing quality and poor pay for teachers.
Free healthcare is something ALL people should like, not just white people. And not just Cubans, Europeans and Canadians. ALL PEOPLE.
my partner asks that you make a posting about how white people like to drink from glass jars. we’ve always found this behavior perplexing.
thanks!!
is this the guy that writes the blog?
It’s sad that the comments have become a sounding board for the very people this blog lampoons, and all of them oblivious to the fact.
White people like to be first! I bet Rosie is a White Person…
Forget health care, do the world a favor and just fucking die already, you useless pieces of shit. Look at your life, are worth saving? No, get on the train, it runs on time for you. America has become such a disgrace.
I wonder if the need to say “First” is something white people like. Might be too universal.
I mean…in a small way it makes them feel special. It’s like being indie…since they saw a post on a blog on the internetz before anyone else. Now they own that post and everyone knows it…even if they can only be identified by a pseudo-anonymous screenname. In their mind, they know they it was them.
Have a nice day.
I don’t think this makes sense; does it?
I get it. I think. Fuck you guys, I’m going back to the marijuana blog.
Canuck, I did not make this shit up. I can’t speak for Germany, but I lived in the Netherlands long enough to know and study the laws (yes, study abroad like white people are prone to do). You, however, obviously didn’t get past talking to the misinformed smelly derelicts who frequent the coffee shops and rip each other off to pay for their habit. Talk to some Dutch cops and advocaats instead and you might have a clue.
Having something “legal” versus “tolerated (i.e., not busting people for certain quantities)” are two very distinct categories.
Although as I mentioned they do not bust people for small quantities or even home cultivation, it is in fact illegal. The Netherlands keeps marijuana illegal – in all quantities – to satisfy various EU agreements and international treaties regarding drug trafficking. This is done to avoid the awkward appearance of supporting counter narcotics efforts while at the same time legalizing what the entire continent is fighting to eliminate.
Sure, it may be purely political, but the fact is that pot is 100% illegal in the Netherlands, and you are an uncivilized and ill mannered miscreant.
Canuck, I did not make this shit up. I can’t speak for Germany, but I lived in the Netherlands long enough to know and study the laws (yes, study abroad like white people are prone to do). You, however, obviously didn’t get past talking to the misinformed smelly derelicts who frequent the coffee shops and rip each other off to pay for their habit. Talk to some Dutch cops and advocaats instead and you might have a clue.
Having something “legal” versus “tolerated (i.e., not busting people for certain quantities)” are two very distinct categories.
Although as I mentioned they do not bust people for small quantities or even home cultivation, it is in fact illegal. The Netherlands keeps marijuana illegal – in all quantities – to satisfy various EU agreements and international treaties regarding drug trafficking. This is done to avoid the awkward appearance of supporting counter narcotics efforts while at the same time legalizing what the entire continent is fighting to eliminate.
Sure, it may be purely political, but the fact is that pot is 100% illegal in the Netherlands, and you are an uncivilized and ill mannered miscreant.
Hilarious. It’s the people that are broken.
White people have good hearts thus we support things we dont need 🙂
If we have already have the best health, why are we relatively low on life expectancy compared to “European” countries? Maybe Americans like to be like Europeans because they live longer.
You mindless CUNT, go buy yourself a fucking brain! If that is to harsh just vote Obama and drool.
I’m glad you have great health care, and I hope it helps prevent the spread of stds. You whore.
“socilizaed medicine” is the American nazi word for a healthcare system that makes fucking sense and by all real accounts would cost way fucking less. Yes let’s bow to the rich elites and have a tyrannical system of healthcare based on a social form that our “forefathers” fought right against. While I enjoy ripping on liberal yuppies as much as this blog does, I don’t share in the AM radio, RETARD idiotic semantics. And PLEASE don’t hide behind the WEAK fucking shit of “boo hoo, this is just for comedy and entertainment”. When you use propagandistic terms like “socialized medicine” you’re clearly taking a stance as a rich conservative white kid that many of us knew you were from the beginning.
“propagandistic terms like “socialized medicine” you’re clearly taking a stance”
Comedians like to avoid the fact they influence people and when they blatantly deny it, it’s quite irritating. I do enjoy most of the items on the list, but sometimes you, the writers, sound like a bunch of racists mungheaded-douchebags. Yes, all white people are well off, yes we all blindly follow white stereotypes/hypes/trends because we’re too fucking retarded to know the difference between choice and blindly following others.
And you use ‘passionate’ too often. fuck that word.
Btw, fellow commenters — fuck off. Comment on the article, not your own bullshit opinions of other shit.
Sorry but once you leave the U.S. you begin to realize the many different ways this country is backward – healthcare is just one area. American’s actually believe the propaganda fed them by the health insurance companies.
yeah! socialized healthcare! woopee! what a steaming pile of horse crap that is. who came up with that as something wp like? what a clueless waste of flesh you must be! yeah…the gov’t has f*cked up everything it touches so what should we do? hmmm, let…me….see. i got it! lets hand over ALL the f*cking hospitals over for it to manage. Brilliant!
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wait in line? i already wait 4 hours or more in the emergency room, i wait over a month for a psychiatrist appointment, and a week or so for a GP appointment. dunno where you’re getting your research, there’s no reason the wait would be any more. plus for some reason they don’t think a 20 year old girl needs a yearly gynecologist visit and won’t reimburse it, and all the drugs they offer “substitutes” for which turn out to be different drugs completely. good call on us being offered the best insurance. if it’s the best in the country then i’m going to have to threaten to move to canada.
Im only going to take issue with the first few lines since everything else is already being covered.
The Hospitals here may be the fanciest but the best doctors today are in cuba (elbow jab “Social Health Care”). People from the United States who have the means go there for operations.
“The first and most obvious reason is “they have it Europe.” White people love all things European, this especially true of things that are unavailable in the United States (Rare Beers, Absinthe, legal marijuana, prostitution, soccer). The fact that it’s available in Canada isn’t really that impressive, but it does contribute to their willingness to threaten to move there.”
one more thing. I live in the united states and enjoy on a regular basis soccer playing/watching Rare Beers, almost legal marihuana, and I can tell you that those escorts in the phone book will escort your penis into their vagina legally.
Yep, we do need to get aa doctor to be referredto a specialist here in Australia, but how often do you need to see a specialist?
And there is no prob with getting a second opinion, you just go to a medical centre, or find another doctor who bulk bills
top system really. Feel sorry for countries where you dont hev free health care.
Why do people find it necessary to post “first” on the first post?
The idiocy of this kills me.
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Socialized health care would really suck. Just think what socialized restaurant food would look and taste like…yuck! How about socialized clothing stores….boring! If you want the best of anything, you gotta have people scurrying around trying to make a profit at it. If they don’t do a good job and make a profit, their kids don’t eat…they themselves don’t eat. That kind of pressure brings out the best in us.
Our healthcare is already half-way socialized. We’ve got one of the biggest unions in the country running it: the American Medical Association! They decide who’s gonna be a doctor, and how many doctors there’ll be…not the free market. It’s no wonder healthcare is as expensive as it is, and it’s no wonder it takes as long as it does to see a doctor. The natural laws of supply and demand have been thrown out the window, and replaced by the man-made laws of the AMA.
I’m hungry. I think I’ll stop writing.
YOR TOTALLY RIGHE, DUED!!!! SOCIALIZED MEDICINES ARE YUCKO!!!! I ONCE ATE FOOD IN A COUNTRY WHAT SERVED SOCIALIZED FOOD AND IT WAS YUCK TO THE MAX, TOTALLY DUDE. YER RIGHT MAN IT’S GREAT WHEN PEOPLE THINK THERE GOONNA LOOSE THERE HOUSE AND THERE KIDS ARE GONNA DIE, THEY DO ANYTHING!!!!! IT’S TOTALLY AWESOME DUDE!!!!!
IM TIRED. I THINK ILL SPANK IT!!!
YEAH DUDE THE LAWS OF SUPPLY RULE. I WANT A BILLION DOCTORS MAN. MAKE THOSE SUCKERS BEG FOR WORK MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE AMA CAN BLOW ME MAN. WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE ANYWAY MAN????!!!!! MAN MADE LAWS BLOW CHUNKS MAN!!!!! LETZ GET RID OF THE MAN MADE LAWS DUUED!!!! LET THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND RULE MAN!!!!!!! NATURAL MADE LAWS AND STUFF ROCK ON DOODOO!!!
IM FULL. I THINK ILL WHACK IT!!!!
YOU EVER SEEN SOCIALIZED CLOTHNG MAN????????????? BooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooRRING MANN!!! YEAH MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS GUY LOOKED SO GAY DUDE!!!!! HE WAS TOTALLY WARING SOCIAL STUFF AND STUFF MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAM WHACKO COMMIE GAY BOY MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SOOOOOOOOOOOSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MAdddddddddddddddddddddddd MAN!!!!!! IM SCREAMING AT MY OWN FACE IN THE MIRROR MAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IM TIRED MAN!!!!! I THINK ILL SMACK TGHE CHUBBY MAN!!!!!!!!!
YEAH MAN WACK IT DOOD!! ITS ALL FOR DEMND OF SUPPLY MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS NATURES LAW MAN SO WHACK IT HARD!!!!!!!!! WHACK IT TILL IT PUKES MANN!!!!!!! GOD BLESS AMERIKKKA!!!!!!!!
We also already pay more in public money for healthcare than any of those countries
(ie the tax revenue going to medicaid/medicare/schip, etc…)
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I knew Ann Coulter was behind this site.
“This is very similar to the way that white people express their support for public schools when they don’t have children.”
Classic 🙂
I’m totally white, but I’m definitely not for socialized healthcare. Of course, I’m conservative and pretty much a capitalist, so that should explain.
I have to take offense to your statement ,”taxes to pay for special education for kids whose mom got lousy prenatal
care.” I had excellent prenatal care, made all of my visits,
and still have a mentally retarded son. Yes, I still wonder if there was something more I could have done, but, I would
not change him for anything. I and other moms of special needs kids do not need any more guilt heaped upon our
already burdened hearts.
I’d have loved a $300 ambulance bill !! When my husband had a heart attack 10 years ago, we were charged $845 to go
approx. 50 miles to the nearest level one cardiac center!!!
Then, they got lost, and my husband had to direct them out of the back of the ambulance!! To top that off, he was on a nitro drip, plus 2 other IV meds, and the ambulance did not even have a blood pressure cuff on it!!! When I met them at the
hospital , they jumped out, borrowed the E.R.’s BP cuff, took
his BP, and tried to charge me $845 for “intensive care
transport”!!! Believe me, I told them that either they took care of the charge, or I would sue them for negligence. Thank God for the care he received here at the Robert Packer Hospital at Sayre, Pa. , and the Guthrie Clinic doctors, he’s doing well , and I still have the love of my life here by my side.
He’s right. I’m white and I love socialized medicine. Of course, I am Canadian. And my children go to public school.
The AMA is not a union. It’s actually against the law for doctors to form a union because they perform a necessary social service.
Socialized medicine will destroy us all (and the AMA is against it, by the way). Look at MA, a state were a socialized health care policy is being implemented somewhat, where PCPs are refusing to take new patients because:
1. they have too much of a patient load, which does not lead to effective care if you’re only spending three minutes with every patient, and
2. they are not making any money off these patients that the government is “providing” for.
Want to know what socialized medicine does on a large scale? You either have a dying economy where people are no longer motivated to become entrepreneurs (making money is GOOD for the economy, in case we forgot), or you can be like China, where doctors don’t get paid much, but they get bribed like hell to treat patients, which is essentially a barter system.
What advocates of socialized medicine want at best is to force altruism on physicians. Physicians SHOULD be altruistic and try to help as many people as they can, even if they don’t have health insurance and can’t pay; however, it’s a sham to FORCE money from the hands of citizens for some “greater good” that is vaguely handled by a large government.
Forget that. This is America. People come here for the freedom to make a prosperous future. If I wanted to be taxed and have my hand held like a small child, I’ll move.
France (which pays the most for healthcare outside the USA) pays about $3,700 per capita and covers everyone. The WHO says France provides the best care with their single-payer plan (The US? ranked 37th in quality of care). The US pays about $6,100 per capita and that includes the 45 million who are not covered.
We pay MUCH more, we get MUCH less
’nuff said.
That is entirely wrong. The AMA is NOT a union, and it just doles out licenses to those it finds deserving. You’re free to see any unlicensed physician you want… It’s up to you.
And trust me: plenty of my peers in medical school are against its policies, such as its stance AGAINST socialized medicine. Look up the AMSA. They are more likely to turn into the health care gestapo.
Funny thing is, everyone is like “yaaay socialized health care,” but they’ll be the first ones whining and pouting when the chunk comes out of their paycheck. If you want money, don’t be ashamed to admit it. From what I see, we deserve every penny of our salaries for all the work we do. Upper class guilt is plain unnatural; let’s try to cultivate something like responsibility for our fellow man, especially if you’re in a position of power. No middle man (cough, the government) necessary.
France is also losing its motivated 20-something young adults to countries like England because it doesn’t offer many opportunities to start innovative new businesses or furnish new entrepreneurial ideas. Keep paying for excellent care, France, as you slowly draw from a well that is quickly drying.
Switching one tyrannical form of health insurance for another is not going to solve the problem in the long run, even if it may work for a split second.
And holy shit: white people DO love statistics.
Small businesses can’t keep up with large corp’s who can offer health care. Release them from these obligations and spread the burden among taxpayers, and job creation can/will result. That’s what they do in Sweden – corp doesn’t get taxed, but the indiv pays via taxes – and everyone has healthcare and a job, which leads to increased self -esteem, pride, etc, and this leads to entrepreneurship.
I’m really sorry to question your research, but did anyone actually like ‘Sicko’? Anyone at all?
Okay, if you don’t understand the difference between a procedural wait time, ER wait time, and appointment wait time, you are retarded.
Wait times for procedures in Canada far exceed those in the US. This is why the current government was seeking a patient wait times guarantee. Unfortunately, the problem was so bad that they were only able to set guarantees for five procedures chosen by each province. In fact, right now, a friend is waiting for a minor surgery. She has NO IDEA when she’ll get to have it- the wait is a matter of months up to years- whereas I’ve had a date set for surgeries, even if I had to wait a couple of weeks. So, yes, wait times can get worse.
Wait times in ERs almost always suck anywhere. Not going to lie.
As for appointment wait times, if you can’t get an appointment as soon as you’d like- FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR WHO CAN FIT YOU IN. Dear god, how hard is that?!
Wait times could get MUCH, MUCH worse, and that you are annoyed over a mere month indicates that you are quite impatient and would die in Canada.
As for your other complaints, I know of NO insurance company that does not cover gynecological exams. If yours does not, something is wrong. It’s standard preventive care. At the most, you should pay your co-pay for it. I pay $20 for mine. Insurance pays the rest. In fact, the standard is to allow women to designate their gynecologist as their primary care physician. “Substitutes” can’t happen without your knowledge, and doctors can refuse them, which then requires the insurer to pay for them. Most “substitutes” are generic drugs, which are the exact same drug. The only difference is that there is no brand name on it.
Except it’s not free. People pay taxes for it!
Yay! Someone with a brain who gets that it’s not “free,” and also that we have a huge problem. You may be the only smart person in these comments.
Seems irrational, arrogant, and entitled to expect the government to raise your self-esteem. If you have no sense of self-worth coming from INSIDE you, and you can’t be motivated to survive by working (manual labor, blue-collar jobs pay, too, and put food on the table), then what’s the point of having health care if you don’t even want to live? Everyone carries their own burden. It’s called responsibility.
I definitely don’t think poor families or people who can’t get a great benefits package don’t have healthcare by choice. And what about the 9 million children who are uninsured? They didn’t decide that either…and their parents wouldn’t decide that for them…especially since a visit to the doc without health insurance is costing them 1/3 of their salary.
You seem to be speaking for the privileged youngsters of the country that are healthy enough and have a safety net (parents can pay for the necessary one or two hospital visits a year) that allows them NOT to pay for healthcare and spend that money on other things instead.
Perhaps. But it has nothing to do with socialised medicine. Last I checked, the UK had socialised medicine as much as France does.
Is there anyone in their right mind who wouldn’t want free health care? The “free” in the title is a misnomer. Someone has to pay, somewhere, sometime.
I live in the closest big US town to Winnipeg, Canada. My mom works for the cancer center in town. They get so many patients from Canada because if they waited for treatment in Canada, they would be dead. Canada’s healthcare system is a disgrace, and patients that need treatment are put on waiting lists, and many will never live to see any help.
I don’t understand why so many people think Canadians are dropping like flies because we’re waiting for health care. No one I know has had a long wait for essential care, and I’ve personally had to wait less than a week for a CT scan to make sure my headaches weren’t caused by something more serious than migaines- ditto for ultrasounds and mental health care.
I know there are cases where people have had to travel for care because there aren’t hospitals in every city, but I prefer our system to one that would either let people die or push them into bankruptcy for lack of insurance (and that’s an American family member’s experience, not Michael Moore, talking).
Not statistics – facts.
The US is crushing start-ups and small businesses with its current system. I know people who cannot even change jobs, let alone start up a new business for fear of . . . (drumroll please) . . . losing their healthcare!
Considering that one half of bankruptcies in America are due to medical bills, you’ve got a lot of nerve mocking the French.
No. Britain has “scoialized” medicine, meaning the government runs the hospitals. France has “single-payer” system meaning the doctors run patient care and the government pays the bills.
COMPLETELY different systems James.
canadians have free health care? We pay for that out the ass in our taxes. Also our high cigarette “sin” tax help fund it aswell.
Line up is just a nature of getting everyone’s proper service. It is not a perfect system by any means, but it helps majority of people. It’s easy to criticize socialized health care when you can afford private care or do not currently need health service.
Nice.
Also…isn’t TED KENNEDY a proponent of Uni health care
I can’t believe you are all debating “free healthcare” based on this dude’s glib, sarcastic blog entry.
Youre absolutely right. I’m an American living in Italy where we have “free health care” but if you need to be seen by a specialist- or in a timely fashion privately- its 120 euro a visit. I had blood tests done the other day- and before they saw I was a dual citizen, they asked me for 1,400.00 euro for 4 tests (after it was a mere 200- in a public hospital).
Free?? Nope
Listen, Chairman Ann is usually spot on…
How about instead on socialism or government control we allow people to get a tax refund for their healthcare. This way it won’t be tied into your job so you can have it even if you quit or get fired.
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Socialized medicine is a joke.
… well I’m glad I got my CT scan immediately like I did 11 years ago. I was 24-48 hrs away from having an aneurysm and dying is what my neurosurgeon said. Waiting close to a week to see if “my headaches weren’t caused by something more serious than migraines” could have sucked, I imagine.
Listen, I’m Canadian, and our system isn’t perfect. But it costs faaar less than your system in relation to GDP. (about 9% in Canada, 13% in the US, or something close to that). AT the same time, millions of americans go without. If it’s a joke, then why is the US the only industrialized nation on the planet without a Universal Medicare plan?
Maybe I’m missing some important part of your argument or don’t know the US system well enough, but you seem to be contradicting yourself: tax refunds only apply if you’re paying taxes, which happens only if you earn enough money to do so, which happens only if you have a job. Therefore, your healthcare is directly tied into your job, and poor people won’t benefit from this plan at all.
I know that American love to hate government control, and maybe the US (local/federal) governments have always been deserving of that hate, who knows, but government control is not bad in itself, only in its extent and execution. In countries with universal healthcare, a certain measure of socialist government control in this matter is the solution, often combined with free market price-lowerings of medicine and specialized medical service. (Not general service, since that again prevents poor people from getting proper medical care.) A lot of the other problems in the US could be improved by similar such models, like universal education, universal unemployment benefits, universal pensions, and so on. Socialism, capitalism, etc. don’t have to be adopted 0% or 100% – that would be like only using a spanner!!!, no, a screwdriver!!!, etc. 100% of the time.
Weird response. Unlike in the US, Scandinavians don’t distinguish that much between the government and the people/the individual. This is partly because the Scandivanian countries are small, very close-knit internally, and have very low corruption levels. The “we’re all in it together”-ness also means that people are not only concerned about themselves but also about the country/people/state as a whole, which leads to constructive and sensible reasoning as put forth by hacksawjim. So you have responsibility both as an individual and as part of the government/the country, but this goes both ways, and you can also count on being helped out, and interfered with, by the rest of the community/the government. It’s great for Scandivanians, their stress levels, their quality of life, the infrastructure and economy etc., but Americans living in Scandinavia might well feel claustrophobic by it all, having to be part of a big web of people/community/government, and maybe not being able to feel as free or “individual” (even though there are more personally invasive rules in the US, at least as far as I have experienced). Well, Americans will just have to try to find viable models for themselves: good luck!
Every society has the potential to be coherent. For generations, the United States was a fine example of that. Once upon a time, we were leaders in areas like social justice and economic balance. At the dawn of the Cold War, paranoid wannabee-fascists ruthlessly persecuted all manner of folks with left-wing political views. By the late 70s, the relentless noise of anarcho-capitalist radicals had gained acceptance as mainstream thinking. Even today, many people honor Ronald Reagan for all sorts of inappropriate reasons, including his mangled assertions that our nation was conceived for the purpose of minimizing government.
The obvious and unmistakable reality known to bona fide historians is that our nation was conceived for the purpose of popularizing government. The idea was not to chuck everything useful about civics and embrace some barbaric “law of the jungle” mentality. The idea was to get past oppression and conflict rule by force generates. This was accomplished through implementing rule by popular election. Of course, this did not mean we led the world in areas like slavery abolition or women’s rights. Yet our nation did set a bold precedent with language like “we the people” at the very top of the Constitution.”
Alas, millions of adult Americans know less about their government than a middle school student fully prepared to be tested on the Constitution’s contents. Check this out . . .
“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
We don’t even get through the first sentence of our goverrnment’s charter document before there is an express statement that one purpose of that government is to promote the general welfare. Rugged Individualism is an ideology far more corrupt than the worst institutions of American government ever have been. It rests on misguided assertions about economic growth springing purely from the force of will of individual entrepreneurs. The toil, sweat, and even blood of working class citizens is glorified in rhetoric, yet absolutely unvalued in public policy framed by the fools who espouse rugged individualism.
For thirty years, virtually none of our nation’s economic growth has had an effect on the realities of 80% of the citizenry. There is a credible argument that President Reagan’s first round of tax cuts did promote growth. At the time, extremely high rates of taxation on extremely high incomes may have discouraged some commercial ambitions. Then again, with many more waves of tax cuts, all we have seen is the piling of riches atop riches — the anomaly of the self-made tycoon is deployed as a smoke screen to conceal the reality that American society enjoys less class mobility than many European nations with a long history of embracing class distinctions.
Our new aristocracy has all of the noblesse and none of the oblige. In some ways it is a decent into barbarism, made all the more evident by the tenor (not to mention the consequences) of anarcho-capitalist extremists refusing to concede any reasonable middle ground, not just in economic policy, but in environmental protection, foreign relations, etc. The American people are not barbarians at heart. Misguided and misleading appeals to a philosophy of cutthroat competition is passed off as strength, when truly it may be our greatest weakness.
Fortunately, it is a weakness that is subject to correction. Like other great nations, we have made our share of horrible mistakes. Yet we have also recovered and surpassed former glories by recognizing the errors of genocide, slavery, de facto apartheid, etc. The modern day Versailles of our plutocracy ought not survive as long as the nation itself endures. Given that there is a genuine individualist streak in our culture, we may well find decisive poverty relief only comes about through further piecemeal efforts that never quite totally remedy social ills like preventable contagion, preventable hunger, etc.
However, the writing is on the wall. If rugged individualists were to be believed, the socialist regimes of Western Europe would have long ago collapsed under insurmountable debts. As it is, the Euro looks down on a dollar grotesquely devalued by many years of irresponsible spending that accomplished very little real good. There is still an air of “we beat the Soviets, so we must have it all figured out” here. Yet that stupidly low bar — outperforming Stalin’s dystopian perversion of governance — is hardly cause for celebration of our approach. It should be judged on its actual merits as measured by its actual consequences.
Plenty of hard data established that universal health care policy is actually good for business, not to mention fantastic for overall quality of life. For too long, we have not questioned the parasitic nature of our health insurance industry (never mind the greater destructiveness of corporate executives and investment bankers wielding unchecked, virtually unregulated, power to collect uselessly large personal fortunes to the great detriment of the productive enterprises from which those funds are siphoned.) Year by year, more of us understand that some measure of collective action to take care of one another is a path to greater economic growth, not the doom know-nothing blowhards have long insisted it must be. Our social coherence is real, and potentially good for more than killing foreigners. Hopefully sooner rather than later, that potential will be actualized.
Your point being????
My point being that know-nothing blowhards perpetuating widespread preventable death and disability, orchestrating the continued developmental disadvantages of children born into poverty (or really at this point anything short of considerable affluence,) and just generally degrading the quality of public health and public morale in the United States are just delaying progress, not preventing it. We may sometimes have a bullheaded tendency to stick with the wrong path, but we are also blessed with a capacity to embrace the right path when it eventually becomes clear. Noise machines propping up the corrupt ideology of trickle-down economics are losing their grip on American public opinions. In the marketplace of ideas, the truth will tend to emerge the better . . . though on occasion it is a painfully slow process.
and if your parents weren’t covered at the time, you would’ve died anyway.
It’s a matter of perspective — hideously warped perspective. See, in the United States, when a physician or facility cannot schedule an immediate appointment for non-emergency service, it is an acceptable consequence of business practices. In fact, some fools actually think it is a good thing to see practices overbooked with long waits and rushed visits. After all, an assembly line built 20th century Detroit. Efficiency uber alles.
On the other hand, when a non-emergency requires days of advanced scheduling in another nation, that is an intolerable failure of bureaucracy. It all begins with this toxic idea that government is innately wasteful and clumsy while business is innately productive and adept. If the poison of ideology is removed from the picture, what we see is that both varieties of institution have strengths and weaknesses. In some contexts, the private sector offers clear advantages. In others, it offers clear disadvantages.
When it comes to American health care, the choice is between universal coverage, strict oversight, and about 2% administrative overhead (government) or incomplete coverage, haphazard oversight, and about 45% administrative overhead (corporate.) Unfortunately, it’s that toxic ideology pounded into an entire generation of American noggins that has millions of us convinced corporations will always outperform government, regardless of the context. This is precisely why no one stopped the privatization of the military commissary in the Iraq war. Never mind $20/plate to feed the troops plus bloated supply lines that demand placing more soldiers in harm’s way. Halliburton is a corporation so it must be better than the Army at serving food, right? Parallel thinking explains widespread resistance to sane humane health care policy between the Canadian and Mexican borders.
I don’t know know what American hospitals some of you have been to but I spent an entire day in the ER on more than one occation and have waited for hours in the doctors office (especially my son’s CF clinic). And forget about those non-profit clinics. Usually they are a huge wait and you are treated like you are subhuman. I sat in a “free” hospital in Dallas and not only was it creepy and dirty and took forever but they treated her terribly and she left in tears. I was mortified. I prefer healthcare proffessionals who are in it to make people better not make themselves richer. My son is terminally ill and no insurance companies will take him. In order for us to keep him on medicaid I have watch how much I make (stay poor) and can’t marry the man I love. Wow, our system is fabulous isn’t it! And it’s not FREE healthcare it is National health care!!
I don’t know know what American hospitals some of you have been to but I spent an entire day in the ER on more than one occation and have waited for hours in the doctors office (especially my son’s CF clinic). And forget about those non-profit clinics. Usually they are a huge wait and you are treated like you are subhuman. I sat in a “free” hospital in Dallas and not only was it creepy and dirty and took forever but they treated her terribly and she left in tears. I was mortified. I prefer healthcare proffessionals who are in it to make people better not make themselves richer. My son is terminally ill and no insurance companies will take him. In order for us to keep him on medicaid I have watch how much I make (stay poor) and can’t marry the man I love. Wow, our system is fabulous isn’t it! And it’s not FREE healthcare it is National health care!! And by the way France is a democracy but unlike France’s democracy we don’t actually get to make decisions that have any real effect on the laws beyond are city government. Business’ make those decisions for us!
Private health insurance is available in the UK. It’s expensive, but the quality of treatment (from my experience in the USA, UK, and that of Americans in both countries) is that it’s better than the US private system. It *has* to be good, if it were only a little better than the National Health Service no one would bother with it. As it is, it’s like staying in a nice hotel while you’re ill.
Shame on those insurance companies for attempting to make a profit in a capitalist society such as this.
Call it what you want, but the idea of Nationalized/Socialized/Free healthcare is totally anathema to the principles of liberty that this country was founded on.
This could be the worst one yet. Things that the white people who run this website like: libertarian capitalism?
In truth, America already has free health care: the emergency room. The problem is that emergency medicine is very expensive, much more expensive than preventative care. In terms of money, it would be cheaper to provide basic care to people who can’t afford it than it is to wait until they are about to die. This isn’t some crazy far left pipe dream, I first heard about it from Newt Gingrich.
Other than that omission, I agree with everything on this page.
I have loved all of the Stuff White People Like posts so far, but this one was a little too off base for me. Maybe if you had chalked up my love of socialized health care to my guilty conscience about the fate of others who are unable to afford health care and the possibility that I might some day fall into such a situation or that my mother, who pulled herself up from a food stamps family to raising college educated children, would have benefitted from socialized health care. Think about it.
Note: I totally agree with the concept of the guilty liberal conscience; hell, I always tried to write “African American” instead of “black” whenever taking notes on the civil war or antebellum period of history, because I couldn’t stand the idea of succumbing to the long history of politically incorrect naming of peoples of other cultures.
Actually, nothing about the emergency room is free. People who don’t pay hospitals actually directly contribute to the rising costs for the people who do pay for health insurance. Of course this is only one of the factors that drive up costs in this nation.
As far as socialized healthcare in the U.S., even if we were to adopt such a silly notion, there will always be private healthcare, just as there is in countries who have socialized.
I think more exposure to education about consumer driven healthcare will ultimately be the key to reducing costs. I also believe we need to encourage better doctors. This treating symptoms with frivolous medications instead of treating disease itself is a corrupt ideal that doctors line their pockets with.
Who knows maybe I’m the only white person who doesn’t like socialized healthcare, soccer, or absynthe.
Perhaps this post would have been better titled “Stuff White People Like: Keeping up with the Joneses (canada and europe)
And at the end of the 4-6 weeks you and everone who loves you is bankrupt.
i love how all these replies just totally confirm everything this website makes fun of white people for.
look at all these whities talking about universal health care like they have done years of research. and sharing their experiences to prove to everyone they really understand the struggle.
Steve, maybe I should clarify, The ER is only free for people who can’t afford it. Those people usually can’t afford health care either. And yes, that cost does in fact get transferred to people who a have medical coverage and to those who pay taxes. That’s the point. People who don’t have medical insurance still get free healthcare, at great cost from people who do, for free. This we agree is true.
As for the virtues of consumer driven health care, my original post expresses no opinion on the matter. Nor does consumer driven health care solve the problem of free (for the people who can’t afford it) healthcare, so long as emergency dispatchers don’t require things like proof of insurance, major credit cards or credit scores before sending an ambulance.
And trust me when I say that Newt isn’t interested in Canadian style health care. As for my opinion, I’m not using this forum to vent it. This isn’t about me, its about white people.
I don’t see many personal stories of woe here at all. As for having opinions, And I don’t see how you can know how well informed they are. Why do you have a problem with people trying to make informed political decisions? That’s the basis for Democracy. Are you just mocking upper-middle class liberal white people? I bet you could find a website for that.
So how poor do you have to be for the emergency room to be free? My sister got slapped with with a15,000 ER bill when she got hit by a car (this was for one evening in the ER, not an overnight stay) The car owner’s insurance company got out of paying the bill, and now she’s stuck with it.
She was on her way to her minimum wage job, which she lost after she got hit. How little do you have to make? Less than zero dollars?
The ER is not free.
I am for socialized medicine, because even though I have a pretty decent job, my insurance is really expensive and going to the hospital still costs a few hundred bucks.
Is this a sob story? I can’t afford the best health insurance, and I can’t afford the best hospitals.
another board turned into a discussion of politics. that should be another one! stuff white people love: arguing about politics on the internet!
im pretty sure this is the site you speak of
See #50: irony
You are soooooo white! Wanna go to the Obama rally next week with my gay friends and I?
yeah like I can afford healthcare – NOT – maybe its cuz I’m only 7/8th white?
It’s not that white people like free healthcare, it’s Democrats that like free healthcare. Democrats are bent on providing everything for everybody to create a nation of people who can’t fend for themselves.
A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is powerful enough to take away everything you have.
Dude, you know that this list doesn’t apply to conservatives or republicans, so forget your remark. Go read a book that isn’t full of lies about immigration, gay marrriage and abortion. Don’t worry, they’ll cancel your favorite shows on FoxNews in Nov of 08.
Free Healthcare is so bogus. Socialism does not work in any sort of political way. this country is going to be in trouble if we get free healthcare because the government will go deeper and deeper into debt.
**If you need to impress a white person, merely mention how you got hurt on a recent trip Canada/England/Sweden and though you were a foreigner you received excellent and free health care.**
White American living in Canada — While I had only visitor status in Canada, I had to pay out of pocket for health care. It is only “free” for citizens and permanent residents. Now that I have residency, my husband and I pay $108 a month for our “free” healthcare, another $100 for private insurance to cover the cost of everything the “free” medical doesn’t cover (prescriptions, dental, vision) as well as paying outrageous amounts in taxes. As for it being excellent, let’s just say I thank my lucky stars I’m just a hop, skip and a jump away from the border if I’m ever seriously ill or injured.
thank you steve! – i am another lonely white person who DOES NOT like “free” health care, because it is never free.
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only black people want to have free healthcare. they do nothing for the society. they only take and abuse.
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You are pointing out that people have to wait for their dental care in the UK? They have FREE dental care in the UK through the NHS. We can’t even swing affordable medical coverage for all citizens.
it’s 15% people not 50%.
Tahnks for posting
Recently I was in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I had to go to the emergency room for an allergic reaction to an insect bite. I went to the British Hospital with my boyfriend Gustavo. The hospital visit complete with medication was 84 pesos, or about $28. The emergency room was clean, the doctors were competent (and nice), and the administrators were efficient. In September 2008 I went to the University of Michigan emergency room and had a horrifying experience that cost hundreds of dollars. So, I vote for national health care!
You could move to Buenos Aires…
Back in the 90’s, my installation crew and I were exposed to TB in Harare, Zimbabwe. One of our drivers had a rather nasty case of TB. We went to a clinic for treatment. The clinic management found out we had health insurance. We were quarenteened at that hospital for 5 weeks. All 6 of us.
The company that hired us for the installation could not obtain our release. They later told us that a release for jail would have been easier. The jailer would not stand to get 30 grand for our stay.
Zimbabwe had Universal Health Care. Most people universally did not pay for treatment. If one could pay for a hospital stay, it was $150.00 per night.
You should seek “Racist Rehab”..we DO provide free mental healthcare in the U.S., sounds like you could use a good dose of lockdown on the psych ward!!
Maybe she raised college educated kids – but not necessarily smart one’s.
You also probably ought to see a therapist about the A-A/Black thing. I bet your relatives didn’t even migrate to the US until after the Civil War anyways.
I agree National Health Care, sounds like a good name for a private insurance company. So, you can pay me like the rest of the working class and go to the hospital and I’ll pay partial of your bill and you pay the rest.
If you love Argentina, fucking move. Liberal.
Did you ever stop to think that you were a tourist? No country would allow a tourist to die or suffer if they could help it…bad for business. You also do realize that in England about half of the paycheck is given to the government so that they can provide “free” health care. Have you ever been to England…pretty girls…horrible teeth…nationalized health care.
Why all the rudeness and hatred, Christopher Sean? Even us conservative Europeans, Canadians and other civilised fellow conservatives in the rest of the developed world love our high quality national healthcare system. What is so “liberal” about having free or inexpensive nationalised healthcare? It does not mean we cannot practise our free market in other sectors or even complement public healthcare with private insurers – I work for a private insurer by the way… in France – and we love our options.
This blog is the most ridiculous thing I have ever read. I am totally aware of that the author must be a quite intelligent person and I feel sorry for his target group that probably thinks he’s a great and funny guy..
Worst thing since “Friends”..
Sorry.
/Grumpy Man
Chantal- wow ignorance rules.
Who does not like free health care!!!!
I would like to know who does not like free health care!!!
Much regards,,,
Frank
Obviously neither have you- I live there
Normal teeth you mean? Brits laugh at yanks obsession with looking like barbie dolls! Aw, bless your lil adolescent empire.
more black people probably do want free health care because more black people are poor relative to white people. Private health care helps only rich folks. What is it that ‘they’ (as an entire popluation) take and abuse?
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What a bunch of commie bullshit. Look at Mexico. There’s a reason they’re running out not in.
Has she paid yet? I’m guessing no….
Are you counting all the cash laid out by Canadians in the U.S. for treatment they cannot get in your country?
Actually Jessie, not everything is free in our system (Canadian). Our drugs, eyeglasses and dental are not free. You need to get a decent job with benefits. Then it’s paid for. You obviously work at a place that doesn’t have benefits. Who’s fault is that ?
You don’t pay $108 a month for healthcare in Canada. That’s a lie. You might pay $108 for a monthly visit to the shrink.
I have personally cost the health system a lot of money. I was born with a cancerous brain tumor. To get it removed, to have radiation, and for rehabilitation as a result of the stroke I had 20 years later (which was caused by the huge amounts of free radiation I got when I was a kid), I paid nothing more than my own taxes. I didn’t even have a job when I had a stroke. But the medical community didn’t treat me any different.
If you’re injured, you may be a hop skip and jump away from the border, but you won’t get anything more than high def tv in your room and a huge bill when you’re done.
They’re few and far between. People who go to the States for medical procedures are doing 1 of 2 things: they want something done but the Canadian government won’t do it; they want something done and the government will do it but the person won’t wait. Usually the individual is desperate and sees no other alternative.
Usually it’s a legitimate procedure that needs to be done soon, and the Canadian government will pay your bill that you acquire in the U.S. to get it done. So Curious, usually it’s not cash the patient ends up paying. The scary Royal Communist Canadian Union of Provinces (RCCUP) does. 🙂
Uh, you have line ups in the States for MRIs too, and all the joy of bankruptcy when you get a serious illness and the insurance company cuts you off.
Health Care is a human right out here in the civilized world.
Canadians may have the reverse phenomenon going on for all we know.
I’m totally glad that you, Piotr, are an expert on black people and know what they really want. Thanks for your brilliantly stupid insight, buddy.
I am not white and I still believe that there needs to be a better healthcare. The topic is too sensitive and too political. There is enough money in the system to provide healthcare to all and still save few pennies.
I believe that only way to achieve the healthcare for all result is to make policy changes, create new business models, eliminate waste from hospitals and reduce administrative cost at hospital and insurance cost. Oh, did I forget to say how would you feel if 30% of your money is used for mgmt purposes and 70% for healthcare….SUCKS!
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I pesonally have experience in business transformation and want to do the same for healthcare.
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How about this option: not having to pay for something when you don’t want to, without government reprisal.
Those people who say national health insurance doesn’t work have never had problems with obtaining care or worried about the cost. As a white dude without insurance (ant there are tens of millions of us) I worry about what would happen if I get really sick or seriously injured. Because I have “preexisting conditions” I am not able to get real insurance that would cover me for comprehensive care.
If you say that national health insurance isn’t perfect, just compare it to what we have now which is more wasteful of money and gives us less coverage. We aren’t all as lucky as you. There are lots of us; we aren’t all yuppies, and even some of them can’t get insurance…
Joe, get a clue! You are a heartless asshole. Many people in this country will die sooner and have less healthy and productive lives because of lack of access to healthcare. Does that mean anything to you? Liberty does no good if you are dead or dying. Your principles are cruel and unusual ( which should make them unconstitutional under the 8th amendment).
Think about it, and look beyond yourself.
I love how most of the comments prove this blog entry right.
Ouch, your website actually uses the term “Solutionization”. Stop doing that.
Something that’s not brought up, but needs to be is that countries with socialized medicine are essentially stealing it from their own future societies. When you take the profit out of healthcare or pharmaceuticals, you greatly reduce the amount of funding available for R&D. It becomes a line item to be funded by the government. And whenever budgets get tight, R&D is often hard to justify because you can’t always see much of a return. Public and private funding of applied health sciences dwarfs even the closest European countries. This is because we have a *for profit* system that doesn’t try to push price controls or tell these private companies how to spend their money.
As a result, they (Europeans, Canadians, etc.) look down their noses at the brutish Americans all the while waiting for us to come out with the new equipment, procedures, and pharmaceuticals. The effect is even more insidious when you realize that the future is all about mastery of biotechnology, advanced pharmaceuticals, etc. Countries with socialized medicine will continue to lag behind the US and history unfolds, largely beccause they failed to fund and develop their own knowledge infrastructure in these areas. In many ways, it will serve them right. The danger is, if we adopt such a system, who will be there to pick up the slack and advance the science required?
The best health insurance… Except for Canada! Zing!
Haha, we rock. 🙂
Canadian free health insurance is a piece of shit.
Week ago we went for vaccination, paid 40$, and nurse tried to fill the syringe during a half an hour.
It’s a f…g simple operation!!!! Certified nurse, my ass
Of course, we had a right to do that for free.
But they didn’t had a time for an appointment. The closest one was in 3 month, and the second hepatitis B vaccine should be done in 1 month. You decide, what to do, either to pay, or repeat from the first one
So i pay taxes for that free healthcare, but also i have to pay a fee to a doctor.
Great.
Dear Americans, bless your god you have your capitalistic, unfair, money-oriented medicine.
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“Health care sux in the UK and Canada”
There’s not a credible source you could use to substantiate that theory because they’s all say that they’re equal or better when you consider the cost Americans pay (or don’t pay).
I’d rather a free healthcare system than a system that gives you HBO in HD and then bills you for it later so that you have to take out a loan to pay it off.
Free Health Care for everyone reguardless of race color sex creed or whatever, it just feels right
i am a white man of 48 years.i live in america.white people want free insurance ! that would be nice.black people who never worked a day in their lives get free health care free meds.and a free check..why is that?? i could be a fully functional working man again if only the medical profession would have done all they could have/should have at age 44..instead they patch me and disable me from being able to work !!! and as things get worse they turn there heads even faster.if the other countries can have free health care why can’t american white people??? because i guess america is a creedy country thats why we have so many foriegn doctors here !!i’m sure they need doc’s where they come from..but they have no money there so they come to creedy a.. america.sure i’m proud to be american but ashamed of them to..they watch us die off.but what the heck..treat the one’s who are covered by all free healthcare the goverment pays for theirs.whats that rediribution for what people done hundreds of years ago..i never was involved in that stuff.but we as white americans…pay the price !work all your life.break down be pushed back until you die..thats my part.i would love some healthcare with compassion.thats gone in america $$$ thats what it take to be white and sick in america no money..line up your pall bearers !!
What does being white have to do with having no free insurance? Your income is probably above the national poverty line, that’s why you don’t qualify for free healthcare.
As to incompassionate hospital care, it depands on who happens to take care of you. Iam a nurse, and I see that despite high nurse-patient ratio, there still are a lot of compassionate nursesand doctors out there;
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You pay for the convenience of having your shots when you want. But what you take for granted is that you don’t have to avoid going to the doctor out of fear of rising insurance premiums.
You know that when you have a heart attack at your home in Canada, you’ll be dragged off to the hospital and treated for free.
I may complain about my over-expensive prescription drugs (that come from the U.S.) but you’ll never hear me complain about a $40 dollar shot. You obviously haven’t been too sick yet.
Yeah, commie bullshit, just like that communist library you got down the street, lending books for free…
And don’t get me started on that commie fire fighter crap either, doing their services for free…
….absolute bullshit…. mbrmbrmmmm
How about this: Not being able to pay for something when you have to cuz you can’t afford a lifesaving operation? Or not being able to pay for something when you want to because of outrageous premiums?
if we taxed the richest 1%, 90% of their income like we used to, we could socialize anything
“if we taxed the richest 1%, 90% of their income like we used to, we could socialize anything”
And that, my friends, is why Reagan became a Republican……
Hmmmm….I did not know that white people liked socialized medicine. I thought it was just all the OTHER colors of the rainbow since they are so enamored of Obama. I’m white! I’m a capitalist pig! I’m a conservative! I’m tired of paying for everyone else’s healthcare so why would I like socialized medicine?
Most over paid and born wealthy feel the way you do which
usually is a money lover,selfish, heartless individual whom
would walk down the street and see people die because they were in a state of illness and cannot pay for their medical expense. Remember Jesus said, “The love of money is the root of ALL evil”. But maybe you don’t believe in Jesus, either.
Then, honey, I trust you’ll be the first to come here and admit just how wrong you are when you are diagnosed with some hideous form of cancer or other disease that hits you out of nowhere like a lightning bolt, whereupon you discover that your great private insurance company has better things to do than pay for your “experimental treatments”.
You will supply us with updates should that happen, right?
Shelly, honey? Are you still there?
You were probably on your way to Cuba or the Dam Rep. Why should others have to pay for those through their taxes?
It does not mean we cannot practice our free market in other sectors or even complement public healthcare with private insurers.
Exactly. The private sector is ok for some things but for stuff like libraries, hospitals,etc.-alternatives to the private sector makes sense.
Maybe she raised college educated kids-but not necessarily smart’s one’s.
I am not all too sure that you have the credentials to accurately judge her intelligence. I understand you did not like her comments or opinions but why not just leave it at that?
“White” people need free healthcare because, with how much they freak out, they’ll need it for their heart attacks / exploded heads.
You kno wat …Canada’s healthcare isn’t perfect but it is not a piece of shit. Stop crying over $40…you know that one night stay at a hospital in Ontario cost over $1200. But thats covered(ward or semiprivate) by Canada’s POS healthcare system..damn if u don’t like it then move to the states and have a fun time payin for your room when u break a hip:) cuz thats at least 5 days in hospital..
You kno wat …Canada’s healthcare isn’t perfect but it is not a piece of shit. Stop crying over $40…you know that one night stay at a hospital in Ontario cost over $1200. But thats covered(ward or semiprivate) by Canada’s POS healthcare system..damn if u don’t like it then move to the states and have a fun time payin for your room when u break a hip:) cuz thats at least 5 days in hospital..
My brother’s girlfriend is a tattoo artist and doesn’t get health care, she’s all for free health care because she can’t afford coverage. Your lists are fucking lame and so are you, you’re a piece of shit. Is it super white of me to want to punch you in the fucking face?
Move to China, Commie!
is it a bird? is it a plane? NO! its super White!!!
and thats what you are…white-o the white boy.the white wonder. hey…is that a white boy?! yea! he the only white boy in the room. he a whitie! get out the black room!whitie.
Where in the bible exactly did Jesus say that?
I really enjoy laughing about white people and people in general, because we are interesting creatures to observe. at first, i like this shit then i realized this guy has a political perspective he is selling here—very conservative, but moreso irresponsible and worse, unaware of what he is saying. given the speed of your work, i doubt much thought is given to core values or what appears to be ideas and political positions that are harmful to non=wasps. the underpinning of your work looks like a very hetero male white christian entitled humor. you are not a hitler by anymeans, maybe just a jeff foxworthy, but with less conviction. nothing new here and fortunately a passing fancy. adios.
This is so funny and TRUE! I was laughing throughout the whole thing, and when I got to the part about the “secret reason” and I thought I was going to pee my pants. It’s me! I saw you on CNN and picked this post as one of the first to read, because I work in this field – health care for all!. (Of course I secretly want to quit my job and open an organic bakery/coffee shop.)
There are a lot of lazy white unemployed red neck Appalachian Americans who would benefit from free healthcare too. Damn them! 🙂
Vasectomy: $400. Speechless look on her face: priceless.
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Date: 2007-02-06, 2:24PM PST
I’ll try to sum up a funny story that happened a few years ago:
I got a vasectomy.
I met a girl soon afterwards. She was nice and attractive but with a selfish streak that raised a big red flag. She was 32 at the time and I could practically HEAR her biological clock ticking. Regardless, she was a good lay, easy on the eyes, and reasonably good company.
I did NOT tell her about my vasectomy and I always used a condom with her to protect against STDs. She assumed, obviously, that the condom was only used for birth control. Silly girl.
We date for a few months. I never made any move towards commitment but she brought it up ocassionally. For me, this was a casual but pleasant relationship. For her – as I was to find out – it was part of life-changing series of events that she was planning very carefully.
Four months into dating, I get the “I’m pregnant” talk. She’s going on and on about how the condom must have broke and now we really need to think about getting married “for the baby”. She’s positively giddy. She has a baby in her and she thinks she’s gonna have a good meal ticket (me) to go along with her new 7lb annuity.
At this point, I’m just as giddy. I get to pull the reverse “oops” on her. I figured that she slept with some bad boy and got knocked up. Good thing I was using condoms! Better still that I have a serious mistrust of women who can’t think beyond their own uteri.
So I wait a couple of days to “think about all this.” I meet her again. I say I don’t want kids and that she should have an abortion. I know where this is going and sure enough it goes there. She goes completely batshit insane on me. There were the usual insults about my manhood. There were threats of legal action. It was all very ugly and I was loving every minute of it.
Well, I let her stew for a few days. She leaves me nasty messages on my phone. She sends awful emails. I’m laughing hysterically.
It was time to drop the hammer. While she was stewing I was busy. First I get a notarized copy from the urologist who performed the vasectomy. Next I get a notarized copy of the TWO test results indicating a “negative test result for sperm” to show I’m sterile and shooting blanks. Finally, I get a letter from a shark attorney stating he has seen the other documents and is prepared to litigate against this woman if she continues to communicate with me in such an unpleasant manner. Also, the letter states that we will insist on DNA testing to show that the baby is not mine. I’m ready.
I meet with this woman at her place. I bring flowers and a small bit of jewelry to show I am willing to reconcile and assume my responsibilities as a new father. I also have stuck in my pocket the documents I have prepared.
She’s all giddy again. Her plan is going perfectly – or so she thinks. We talk about our future. We have some pretty good sex. Then, as I am about to walk out the door, I ask her the $64,000 question. “Are you sure that this baby is mine?”
Well, she goes batshit insane again. Hell, she ought to. Her plan could completely unravel if there is ANY question about my paternity. Oh, she’s really screaming now. How dare I question her morals. Do I think she’s a slut. I’m just trying to weasel out of my responsibilities… blah, blah, blah, yadda, yadda, yadda.
I’m not really mad. I’m kind of embarrassed for her. But since she won’t shut up and the neighbors can hear all of this, I ask her to step back inside and sit down. She sits on the sofa and calms down a bit. She is glaring at me with all the moral self-righteousness that only a woman can muster up. She thinks she has me trapped. She is 100% convinced her plan has worked. Oh, the tangled web of lies and deceit she has wrought around herself and I am about to hack through them with a few pieces of paper.
I reach into my pocket slowly. I extract the three pieces of paper and unfold them slowly and deliberately.
I tell her simply, “You’re screwed”.
Her look doesn’t change. There is no way she can fathom what I have prepared.
I continue. “I am sterile”
Her look changes just a bit. Something is beginning to sink in. Naturally, she reverts to women’s logic. “You’re full of shit. You’re trapped and you know it.”
I hold up the letter and the test results. “Three months before we met, I had a vasectomy. Here is a notarized letter from him stating what I had done. Here are two test results showing that I tested negative for the presence of sperm. Blanks. I am shooting blanks. That baby inside you is simply not mine.”
This woman is not to be swayed by logic and clear documentation. “Bullshit, those are fakes.”
I was ready for that. “No, they are real. This last piece of paper is from my attorney. It’s a simple letter to you that states if you pursue any kind of legal action against me for child support that I will insist on a DNA test to prove paternity, that is, to prove that your baby is not mine.”
I give the woman all the documents. She reads them slowly, deliberately. With each passing second she can feel in her soul that she has made a very bad mistake. With denial swept away, she started to cry. It’s a small cry at first. Then it becomes deeper and more painful. By the time she gets to the letter from the lawyer she is sobbing.
I had no sympathy for her. I turned and walked out the door. Even after I closed the door I could still hear her sobbing.
Epilogue –
I never heard directly from this woman again. I did hear through my friends that she did indeed have the baby. I also heard that the real father was some guy in a band she had met. I assumed that after 30, women stopped going after musicians, bikers, criminals, and thugs. Silly me for thinking the best of American women.
The Moral of the Story –
Get a vasectomy but keep it a secret.
Even if this post has nothing to do with white people, free healthcare, or white people liking free healthcare, allow me to bring it back: vasectomies are free in Canada. 🙂
Vasectomy Man, you are my new hero. I raise a toast to you for putting that conniving bitch in her place. Kudos!
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Wow. I was going to post something stupid and simple for the healthcare thing, but that’s a horrible and sad story. I’m not sure who the bigger asshole is. You really got her, though. Con-graduations. Want a medal?
Waht white people shoutl like with healthcare, plus a very white people name for the cause….
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=wcZx8Ft4JE4
Healthcare can never be free. It requires many scarce resources to provide healthcare, which will always have a finite value, and thus price. In order to pay for GOVERNMENT provided healthcare, you have to steal (tax). It’s not f-ing free.
This is the funniest reply.
Socialized health care sucks. a lot. Maybe anyone that wants socialized health care should go try it first.
now, insert a “I did try it and it was waaaay better than any health care I’ve ever had to pay for!” lie. Why do you think Canadians drive here to have their vasectomies.
You’re so white. I love it.
You’re f-ing brilliant, you know that?
Untrue. Illegal mexicans and dead beat, ex drug dealing black people like free healthcare more than white people. Obviously you don’t live in the south.
and they get it now…
Ted Kennedy.
Bro…you are my hero. Seriously, that’s a freakin scary ass story. Props to you for getting all your ducks in a row. Crappo that’s scary…I wonder how many poor fools fell for that con in the past. Way to go dude, way to go.
I’m the most liberal person I know. I’m all for civil rights, women rights, etc. etc. , but this has to be the funniest story I read in a while. Jeebus, that was some clever thinking to f*ck with her. They need to erect a statue of you and place it in front of NOW headquarters with the quickness.
LOL @ “Naturally, she reverts back to women’s logic.” Funny stuff.
Untrue. Illegal Mexicans wouldn’t be able to. You’d have to have a card to prove you have access to the services (like in every province in Canada). If you forgot it at home, lose in on the bus, or drop it down the sewer, they tell you to leave and come back when you’ve found it (or ordered another one).
What about ex drug-dealing white folk? You obviously don’t know about cities outside of your troll cave. 🙂
Your vasectomy was only $400? That’s awesome, my boyfriend’s cost twice that. Its such a relief to have it done and know if we ever get married it won’t be “for the baby.” Of course I can’t cheat on him now…
In spite of all the misogynist comments, I think it’s very progressive for guys to get vasectomies instead of leaving 100% of the burden of birth control on the ladies. Too bad the guy in the band wasn’t so responsible.
Once again this site should be called stuff white liberals like. Then it fits perfectly
Please. At best that story is made up, at worst it’s true – either way you come off as a nutjob.
@Crackerman – good call on the canuck coming to the States for a pipe cut.
You’re the most liberal person you know huh? Yikes. ” I’m all for blah blah blah…”
We don’t.
You mean the most liberal person in Nowheresville, Kansas?
Ugh, I don’t know about responsible… I guess it’s good that people like this know better than to reproduce.
Totally, this is a fake… more like what he WISHES he’d done instead of the much more likely scenario that he had the vasectomy, found out his girl was pregnant, went home and cried for weeks trying to work out why, why, WHY she cheated on him, got really bitter, and worked up this elaborate fantasy for how he should have gotten her back.
i need healthcare. i want free healthcare.
It blows my mind how anyone in their right mind would not want universal health care. Do these people expect to be healthy forever? Or do they expect bags of money to fall out of the sky the first time they get a chronic, disabling illness?
Who wouldn’t want free healthcare. It’s free! FREE!
Don’t tell me black people don’t like free things….FREE!
“Free Health Care”. Even I, a White Southern Conservative Republican like the way that sounds. Who wouldn’t. But…for you who haven’t figured it out yet, there ain’t no such thing as FREE. What no one seems to be asking is, whos paying for all this FREE heath care? If you haven’t figured it out yet, I got a question for you. Whos ass has your head been up? Answer. Its going to be you and me. FREE AIN’T FREE.
In my personal experience, free usually means LESS, or not exactly the same, or anything on that table in the back of the room, or I’ll be your friend if you give me that, or at the end of the day after a garage sale what ever crap is left nobody wanted even if it was only 5 cents for a dozen so I don’t have to carry it back to the garage, or it’s lint, or, or, or…what did you say, health care.
I live in England. An american wouldn’ t receive free care- one simply gets a bill when one returns home!
Hey! get a vasectomy!!
From a divorce responsible conservative white guy with two kids. I got a vacectomy to protect my (1st) wife’s health. Not so I could “f_ _ _” as so many of you put it, and not worry about getting her pregnant. Sounds a little bit like rape to me. I mean what she did was INexcusable. But what you did was dishonest.
I mensioned 1st wife. After being forced into a divorce. I found that when some women find out you’ve had a vasectomy it can be hard to keep them off of you.
Hey Liberals! Couldn’t you say that a vasectomy is a sort of free health care for women.
Yes, women love to see men that have taken some responsibility for birth control.
Nothing is true, that is for sure. American taxes pay for war canadian taxes pay for health care.
While I thoroughly appreciate some of the entries on this blog, the majority of the entires are not about white people but are about liberal a$$holes that bitch, whine, and complain about everything that is corrupt about our country, food, drugs, lifestyle, etc. How would you like to live in a country where you would be murdered for some of these comments about our government? Please appreciate the rights and freedoms we have provided our military and our leaders who understand that we must keep terrorists and extremists under control.
Free health care would be devastating to us. Don’t you want to be able to access all the technology and advances that medicine makes on a daily basis? In Canada, if you are over the age of 50 and you need treatment or a procedure that is “too expensive” for taxpayers, sorry, you just DIE. I knew a woman whos mother died at the age of 53 of a CURABLE leukemia, and she was only able to get palliative treatment for her remaining months on Earth because she couldn’t afford to pay for the expensive treatment out of pocket (which was thousands)… and the most amazing thing to me is this young woman was so brainwashed by our liberal media that she convinced herself that THIS MADE SENSE!!! I’m sorry but no one is taking my family or my loved one away from me for something so silly – i am a responsible american who makes good decisions – I got a decent education (and no, not at an IVY LEAGUE school majoring in womens studies and english, but a professional school with an ACTUAL job at the end of the road), full-time job, and pays out the a$$ for health insurance – and I deserve to have the best care in the world.
I’ll stop now. I need to get back to work to pay for all the people who are too lazy to do so.
MA – YES ON 1
USA – VOTE McCAIN!!!!
God bless America!!
I friggin agree completely!! #8 barack obama?? There are PLENTY of white ppl who will NOT vote for him BECAUSE he is half black (I am not one of those people, but c’mon now).
Once again, another liberal arguement about socialized medicine. I’m starting to like this site and all the liberal bashing that comes with it. So much for coming from Berkeley. Now my prejudice is starting to show for the Califag’s out there.
Whitney- something similar happened to one of my relatives in the UK. He had severe heart problems that could have been fixed with a surgery easily, however they couldnt do it.
Free health care sounds all nice and sweet, until you really look at the reality of it. Not to mention the taxes….
the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job. This would allow them to work as a freelance designer/consultant/copywriter/photographer/blogger,
Nail ,head, etc
Let’s make over-generalizations about ethnic groups….CLANDER WINS!
Let’s also measure who has the smallest penis…CLANDER WINS AGAIN!
What’s not to love about not being held to ransom by greedy pharmaceutical companies?
Its funny cause he’s white
Cmon everyone likes free stuff.
Whether you like the term “socialism” or not, the USA, Canada, and many countries in Europe receive taxes from their population and redistibute these funds to roads, military, police, education, healthcare, etc.
We are seeing recently the dangers of unregulated capitalism. What has happened to our hard earned 401K’s? What is happening to all those existing homeowners and honest new homeowners who legitimately applied for a mortgage, acquired their home and now face a plumetting home value because of unregulated and unfair lending practices to thousands of unqualified applicants now in foreclosure? Do you really believe that all those fat cats at the top didn’t see this meltdown coming?
We live in the wealthiest country on earth. Yet there are millions of citizens who cannot afford basic healthcare because of unregulated capitalism within our healthcare system. Yes, we do have HMO’s and PPO’s, but the drug companies and others are allowed to work within our healthcare “partnership” without strict limits.
This country needs to wake up. Healthcare should be a constitutional right for it’s citizens. I’m all for making a profit, but it should be “fair” and balanced. It is costing us billions to treat uninsured who arrive in emergency rooms, in terrible untreated conditions. If these poor people could have received effective managed care, prior to their health crisis, I’m sure the overall treatment costs would be less.
Anyone or company who chooses to work in healthcare, ought to be part of an overall managed agreement that allows for a decent profit, not a windfall, as we see today. As long as unregulated capitalism is allowed in healthcare, unfortunate millions of uninsured will continue to fall at the thresholds of emergency rooms, undignified, nearer to death, and humiliated by an uncompassionate system. Why are we so afraid of modifying our capitalistic system into a more compassionate system that promotes and subsidizes health, in addition to success?
Socialized health care is not a terrible idea. California tried . . . and failed. Canada is trying, and tons of people have to come to America in order to receive surgery. Basic capitalism backs this up. If doctors and hospitals were paid by the government, then there would be no incentive to work harder/provide better health care/keep lines short. The DMV is a good example of this. What we need is a less compassionate system. Why should hospitals be held responsible for not taking care of people who will never pay for incredibly expensive modern health care? The country is going bankrupt, and hospital fees are going to be egregious until someone has the balls to say no
wtf? are you serious?
Not sure this is just a White people thing.
More like a middle to lower class thing if you ask me 🙂
Everyone likes free health care except the people who can already afford it.
hahaha..duh everyone would like free stuff. who dont yah sum stupid asses.
duhhhh…if yu heat dat
For those of you who voted for BO. There ain’t no such thing as free.
“But the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job”
That was really ignorant to say.
Why was that an ignorant thing to say?
It’s a joke that ties this entry with other entries of things white people like. Lighten up.
And the blogger is Canadian: he gets to be a “writer”, gets to spend more time on his art instead of working a full-time job, and go home to Canada every now and then and visit the doctor’s office at no cost.
Health care is NOT free in the U.K. for anyone not from the E.U.
You pay for anything you receive and it’s not cheap.
wtf is this
Australia tried – and succeeded 🙂 Every working Australian pays 1.5% of their Salary (except high earners ($50,000.000 and above, who pay 1.5% more if they are not in private health insurance). Every Australian is entitled to Health Care.
Basic capitalism also works by adding labour to capital and on-selling the improved capital, pocketing the difference.
In the case of health care, the improved capital is something that can not be on-sold – health of an individual
Therefore it is more efficient for the government to receive taxes from the community then provide the health care to the community
Personally I preferred John McCain’s health care plan, which is elite, inefficient, and costly to the masses. Oh if only we could be so lucky.
since when is 50 k a high earner? Jeez soon rich people will be anyone with a job.
For emergency services socialized medicine is better, but most of the doctor visits are non emergency. Non-emergency services are subject to shortages since supply and demand are constrained and market prices are not allowed to fluctuate. Many of the tests in socialized medicine countries (cancer test, MRIs) require a long waiting line which reduced the usefulness of the test in the first place.
In medicine time is essential and the Gov’t programs will probably view a waiting line as an acceptable solution. (waiting will occur due to shortages, happens every tiem) Once I met someone on a plane who was coming to the US for a non-essential test because the wait time in their socialist country was 6 months. Getting those tests done quickly means the doctor has many more options and can make proper a diagnosis much quicker (and cheaper) than doctors in a socialist system.
Here’s another fact. the US has more MRI machines per-capita than Canada and the US has higher cancer survival rates. Why? because of the quick availability of tests.
In the US a poor person cannot be refused emergency services because they cannot pay so I don’t see how a poor person really stands to gain from a socialist system
then why do so many canadians come to america for healthcare, especially when they’re dying of cancer or something else that is terminal? oh yeah, i forgot, in america, death is an option. in countries with socialized healthcare, when you are terminal, you get hospice care, that’s it. if americans are willing to die once they’re terminal, then free healthcare would work. otherwise, it’s a disaster.
(i happen to be a non-white person who went to a very white medical school, graduated, and decided never again to practice medicine in america because it’s becoming more and more socialized.)
Because you’re acting like it’s not because people want one less thing to worry about or keep themselves healthy.
I like it and I CAN afford it. My friend, WHITE BY THE WAY, has three kids and a wife and he’s working SUPER HARD, eighteen hours a day sometimes, his wife doesn’t work because one of their kids has autism and she has to care for him and they can’t afford healthcare. They have had to ignore some health problems over the years because it’s all about the Benjamins to the healthcare companies. They don’t care who lives and dies, who’s sick and who’s well, they only care about profit. The same is true of nearly everybody. You don’t really care if some guy named Mike in Nevada is in a coma, he’s going to die but do you care? No. Everyone’s a greedy bastard and would sell any non-relative for money.
many people i know struggle to find full-time jobs (it doesn’t matter if you’re black or white, or any other race/nationality). it is just very difficult to find any job that will offer health care and at an affordable price. white people are not all artists/poets/designers and all these liberal things anyway. and i don’t care if anyone says i take this too serious, it is an ignorant thing to say.
Here’s another thing white people love to do: assume anybody suffering any type of hardship and not living a happy-go-lucky successful life must be there of their own piss-poor decision making.
After all, there couldn’t possibly be anything wrong with a system that benefits YOU, now, could there? I gots mine, and that’s all that matters.
Forty-eight million Americans without health insurance –
Ten million Americans unemployed =
Thirty-eight million WORKING Americans unable to afford or receive health insurance.
Justify that.
… you do realize that this column is meant to be humorous with loose ties to factual information right?… we understand youre upset, but the rest of us came here to laugh and your bummin us out. thanx
I want you to read what you just wrote out loud one time for me… let it sink in… and then say, ” I apologize, I’m an idiot for trying to sound informed, but failing miserably by contradicting myself”
It should be noted that at the time of this posting, absinthe had become legal and available in the United States. It is not common, but you can sell, purchase and consume it legally.
First of all, I really don’t think the site’s creator has something against socialized health care in and of itself.
Also, consider this: why should one person care that another has health care? By what standard?
Are Americans entitled to have health care provided?? Is it a right??
Vote and see what others think:
http://controversialpolling.blogspot.com/
A new daily poll
ummmm who cares?
K taylor chill
nick stfu
lisa i dont care
thissiteisracist high five
“where did you get that information?”
Should be “from where did you get that information?”
Majority are african americans who are to lazy to work. They prefer welfare and babies!!! Lots of them!! Nigs have been getting free healthcare all there life – its about time for the white race to get there turn.
Dude, are you so completely stupid not to realize that the author isn’t voicing his opinion about anything….? He is SIMPLY WRITING A COMEDY PIECE!!!!
My GOD, how dumb can some of these posters be? This is COMEDY you IDIOTS!!!! He isn’t voicing his opinion….he is making it all up for the sake of laughs….wow how stupid can you be not to see that…it’s awful.
The author doesn’t mean what he says, no more than Seinfeld meant what his comedy was about in his show.
For gods sake….pitiful….
white men and women love black dick lol especially spoiled white girls…. come get u some… i’ll stuff it all in ur mouth and down your throat lol
Did Daniel Boone have free health care?
I THINK NOT, SIR!!
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Free Healthcare Isn’t Like a Michael Moore Movie but Isn’t like how Conservatives say it is We have long wait times and we have to wait 3 Months for non life threatening surgery and there are still costs for specialists, Vaccinations, drugs (but much cheaper) ,Dentists, Nursing Care and Plastic Surgery (except if you are mangled in an accident) we pay for 40% of our health care in Canada but it is still a better system than in the US but less socialized than in Europe (thankfully)
Being a Socialist, I love the idea of free health care. Keep our country healthy.
I bet those same white men and women love the AIDS that comes with the black dick too.
aren’t liberas the ones talking free speech out one side of their face and from the other doing what ever they can to stifile free speech when ever a conservative speeks up.
wasn’t it a liberal who declaired freedom of expresion after placing an upsidedown cross in a jar of urine.
aren’t liberals the ones demanding seperation of church and state as if it really was part of the 1st amendment wile preaching talerance for all religions, and you know what i mean. don’t you think if the founding fathers wanted S O C A S they would have made it clear… aren’t liberals the ones who are always complaining about how bad things are and that things are only getting worse. I wonder why…
Having lived in a country where with socialized health care, I have seen both the positive and negative sides. Unfortunately, the only positive thing is that healthcare if free so everyone has access to it. The unfortunate thing is that it takes several months and sometimes years to get appointments for medical evaluation and testing. Many patients die under the socialist system from preventative medical aliments due to the time it takes to get an appointment and death rates often rise after the implementation of such a program. If people take the time to educate yourselves about socialist healthcare and its pit falls, they will see that socialist healthcare is not the save all that many think it is.
Wow, you sound bitter. You do realize this is a factitious website, don’t you?
Maybe you should become more educated regarding differing health care systems. Did you ever think that, maybe, if the US adopted a universal health care system they could iron out some of the issues that the UK, Canada, & other countries have experienced? The US is a great nation with many problems, but has so much possibility to do wonderful things for its people and the people of the world. We can learn from others’ mistakes and, maybe not perfect a universal health care system, but tailor it so we won’t have as many issues. You say you know one women who died of a curable disease? What about the millions of your fellow citizens who declare bankruptcy because they can’t afford hospital bills or watch their children die because hospitals refuse care or have to live on the streets because all of their money goes to paying bills? Have you ever thought about those people?
No, probably not. What do you care? You have a job and pay out the bum for health care. Great for you.
Doesn’t everyone deserve to have the best care in the world? Who are you to say that a lesser educated person shouldn’t be entitled to the same rights and privileges as you? That is NOT American. Everyone is created equal. Everyone should be endowed the same rights.
Grow up.
I’m an American who grew up in Canada, and my dad had a kidney transplant and three heart attacks and my parents have still managed to retire, own their own house and put three kids through college. ‘Nuff said.
To your first question: No. I think most liberals (democratic liberals) would take a democratic approach and listen to a conservative and react accordingly.
To your second question: Perhaps, I don’t know. But that person isn’t representative of every liberal. No one person should ever be considered representative of any whole group.
To your third question: Yes. Because separation of church and state means that people all of all religions can live in a society that is not moulded to suit the ideologies of one religion. A demand for separation of church and state isn’t a damnation of religion.
must be some pissed off nperson who’s posting all this.this is not a black/white issue.many people who cant find a job dont qualify for medicaid .and if you havent noticed that african americans are usually the ones on welfare
You have got to be kidding. Here are some statistics for you. Afdc recipients: white 38.8%, black 39.8% Hispanic 15.7%, Asian 2.4%
Maybe where you a from the only ones you see are african american but it is probably because you are a white girl and don’t want to see or can’t see the reality.
You just made it a black/white issue.
You said it: “the idea” of it. The reality is something else.
When was the last time you called the police and then had to write them a check for the “services” they provided…which are paid for through your taxes?
Stop and think about it…that is a socialized service.
America already has :
socialized police & fire departments, schools, emergency rooms, parks & recreation, welfare, food & employment programs, daycare services, and a host of other government services on local, state and federal levels.
Social Security and Medicare are socialist.
The American Medical Association and the pharmaceutical companies are happy that most people just do not know the definition of the word.
jesus. the amount of people not getting this entire blog is astounding.
Learn to spell, you uninformed conservative.
Well said.
The difference being that the aforementioned “socialized” police, fire, etc. are meant to assist the TAX PAYER. Some services, such as schools, welfare, food, disability, etc. are going bankrupt do to these socialized practices that help people OTHER than the tax payer as well. Healthcare is already socialized to a degree (federal mandates for emergency room aid) and because of that hospitals are having serious financial problems. Since the feds (us) require that the hospitals provide aid, but do not relieve the hospital’s expenses. Once the system is socialized, it will start to go downhill. Police and fire work as a tax based (not socialized) program because it can work on a predetermined budget. Socialized programs cannot. This explains the serious problems with England and Canada’s socialized healthcare.
Despite some obvious biases (as well as grammatical and spelling errors), his argument holds true.
Funny how it is universally accepted that the United States has the best health care and system on the planet, yet you say Canada’s system is better.
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I love this blog!
I remember my ex-finace’s cousin who was living in Canada at the time (he’s from Iran) tell about how health care is “free” there, that he didn’t have to pay for the birth of his two kids. After reminding the guy that nothing is free, I asked him how high the taxes are there. I will give him credit that at that point he seemed to admit they were significantly higher there than in the US.
Nothing is free.
Mary,
Like most white middle class women which this blog mostly applies to, get a life. Don’ t sit and quote Michael Moore, try to possibly develop your own opinion, if that is possible for you. But in reference to your (or Michael Moore’s) idea of socializing medicine, you probably think why don’ t we socialize everything so I can sit on my rather plump bum and sip tea all day while the government regulates my every move. You stupid liberals think that is the answer, to let the government take care of everything for us, do you know what is best for you or does the government? Sit and think about that while living off your husband’s accomplishments.
I can’t believe some of the ignorant crap I’m continully reading about health care. Socialized health care may solve the problem of people with no health care insurance, but it opens the door for a whole set of new problems. So if we get free health care and in doing so create a whole set of different problems, what have we gained. NOTHING!!!
The reason we have out of control heath care cost in the USA are lawers feeding off the ubiquitous idiots who get away with lawsuits for the most unbelievably minor mistakes even good doctors will make from time to time. I’m not sure what the presentage of a doctors income goes to malpractice insurance but I’m sure its shockingly high. I’m not saying a person shouldn’t be compensated for Doctor quack’s not knowing the difference between right and left. Or a pharmasutical company not informing the public of a potential side effect of a certain drug just to get it on the market quicker. I’m saying alot of good doctors are left with no choise but to get out or risk loosing every think they’ve work for or potentially good doctors going for a engineering degree instead.
For those of you who think Michael Moore knows what hes talking about. Hes a Hollywood far left Liberal producer whos main goal is to sell movies. Anyone can take a sound bite, even a dumb old white conservative southern boy like me, from the internet or a news seen or interview and make it say what ever they want. Especially when its something said about the govenment or an elected offical and get away with it via the first amendment. Any one who believes socialized medican will solve all our health care problem is an idiot.
In general, socialized fire service, police service, libraries, and garbage pick up seems to work just fine.
Even if Michael Moore was completely bias is Sicko (and I’m not saying he wasn’t), he made an extremely good point about the fact that making money out of making people healthy, and saving money (denying them “experimental” chemo) by letting people suffer and die is wrong.
It’s not free, but it’s fair.
It’s not universally true that the U.S. has the best healthcare. A newspaper reported last year that specialists in the medical field studied the two systems and concluded that they are on a par on a scale of quality.
i can’t believe how racist this blog is. total crap. free health care is in all American’s best interest because the health care system we have is wasting a TON of all of our tax payer money. Free health care could also literally save the life of poor people- and there are ALLOT of poor people- white, black, asian, latino, etc…
Your 100% right, I can’t spell. Never said I could. As for uninformed conservative. Open your eyes you Socialist minded MISINFORMED Liberal.
This guy is so write on. Its hilarious and so are the posts.
This entire blog is about how dumb liberal yuppies are.
He is right. “White people” like public education but send their kids to private school. What is up with that?
Free healthcare? No such thing. Socialized medicine = Europeans pay for it with taxes, moron.
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It’s not free, but it’s fair. What tha… LOL. Fair to who? Is it really far to FORCE me to pay higher taxes and at the same time reduce my take home pay making it more difficult to pay my bills and at the same time possibly lower the quality of health care that I can get for myself and my family or make it more difficult for me to get a appointment just to see a doctor. Are you that person who screams “this ain’t far” when he’s loosing at a game and then insists on changing the rules. Can someone PLEASE tell me how we can get FREE!!! health care without it costing anything and without all the other problems all of us “uniformed conservatives” seem to understand will happen. If you can, then I’ll be the first in line to vote for it. OH, and just to let you know higher taxes can lead to a slower economy and that means job losses and no money to pay the taxes its going to require to pay for that FREE and “FAIR” health care…
Hmmm. Hows my spelling?
i am white and i am opposed to socialized health care, look at canada and the wonders it has done over there.
if everyone can get “free” health care, the hospitals are going to be over run with people with stubbed toes and splinters in their fingers.
Haha… This white person loves neo-con rhetoric parrots. I find them quite amusing.
Guess what? That increase in your taxes would be negated by, oh, I don’t know, NOT HAVING TO PAY A HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUM!
Oh, wait, never mind–you quit buying health insurance so you could get the “off road extreme” package on your SUV that never leaves the pavement.
Thanks, guys, for reminding me what a tragedy it would be if I had to buy a BMW 3-series instead of a 5-series just so some poor kids could get some health care. I’d be so lost without neo-con parrots squawking at me, I tell ya…
I”m also white and am apposed to “free” health care. However; working in an emergency room and seeing the types of complaints that stroll through. We already have free health care. It’s called Mass Health. Good neighbor. What ever….People know the system. I had this one lady non-English speaking. Not even sure if she was legal….Hmmm. However. We are an Emergency room. Anything more than the emergency is usally sent to a PCP, or specialist. The woman told the interpreter who had already knew about her pre exsisting disorder that she was afraid to go to the Drs. office because they might not see her because she has no insurance. How about she get a job….Learn this English and pay…..for health insurance. These people in my opinion come to this country expecting free everything because they were told by their other fam members who came here and got it FREEEEEEEE. But really now, is it really free? No you and I are paying.
Did you ever stop to wonder why they could get the procedure done in the US? If the US goes socialized, the Canadian government won’t be able to get out of their supply bind by dumping their excess demand on our excess supply.
Ummmmm when I looked htis morning… still white and still don’t want wlefare-healthcare. I will make my own choices about who I see and when I go and the course of my treatment….. I think you need to hang with a better class of white people
I think you need to hang out with a better class of socialized medicine. All of your choices about who you see and when you go and the course of your treatment are even less limited in Canada because you aren’t limited by who will take your insurance.
Free health care is not possible… however, far less expensive health care is. According to a PBS documentary that aired in the 1990’s, approximately 90% of the health care dollar spent at a Canadian hospital actually goes to providing health care. On the other hand, 30% of the health care dollar at an equivalent US hospital was spent on health care. The 60% difference was spent on pointless administrivia and paper work. By providing single payer health care, you could take the 60% and make it productive… 3 times as productive. 🙂
Oh, and by the way, a better comparison between tax in Canada and tax in the US would simply involve adding your health insurance bill to your tax bill. As for the problems that exist in Canadian health care, the American system already have them…. overcrowded emergency rooms, wait lists for surgeries… lack of tended beds in the hospital… etc. Only difference is that cash can allow you to jump the line up.
so you got it too!!!
They know the system alright. If only the federal government would stop handing out free money to them, these illegals would stop coming to America to work as housekeepers, janitors, dish washers, contractors, factory workers, landscapers, nannies, or any of the hundreds of other jobs into which Americans have hired them, and they would stay at home. Really, it’s the federal government’s fault illegals are here in the first place. The government should be giving free money to those that are more deserving (i.e., white people).
I know it is not universal, but MANY white people understnd that “free health care” is not possible, and is distinct from a discussion of “socialized medicine.”
Socialized medicine is not free, it just hides what you pay in your tax bill, so you don’t worry so much about it.
I am white and I have a college degree and I work full time. My company doesn’t offer a health plan. So I have no health insurance. I am also 25 and just out of school so I’m not exactly in the best position at the company yet. But its getting harder for me to work harder and move up when I am in pain everyday . And without alot of experience under my belt, not to mention this bad economy, its not exactly easy to just go out a find a job that DOES offer a health plan.
I haven’t had health insurance in over 10 years.
I have a chronic condition so I am considered high risk and thus no insurance plan will cover me. I get denied over and over. Because of this I’ve also been turned away at plenty of hospitals and by plenty of specialists with a private practice. Yes this DOES happen. And NO, ER rooms do NOT do full work ups on everyone.
The only way I can get anything done is if I pay for tests or treatment plans in FULL beforehand. And in case you didn’t know, things like X-rays, MRIs and CT Scans run thousands of dollars.
Just one MRI is at least 1000 and that doesn’t include the type of MRI you may need to get or where the focus of the test will be. So if you need more than one, then what?
And then after emptying the bank JUST to pay for the test, you have to lay down ANOTHER 100 for every doctor visit to get a diagnosis. And that’s just the diagnosis. Then more tests are issued. Then more treatment plans. Then MORE money.
So my condition never really gets helped because i am limited to treatment plans that are cheaper and just help to alleviate the pain but not the source of the problem.
In the meantime, I am going broke from medical bills so much so that I am not only limited in life by my pain, but am now a slave to this debt. Not to mention my debt from college that I am still paying off. Even these very very limited high risk patient plans that are available in some states have very high deductibles because its the only way the insurance companies will agree to cover people like me.
And thats just to cover you. Certainly doesn’t mean once you would even have such a plan that it will actually cover what you need. Just a portion of a select few procedures.
I work really hard and don’t get help from anyone, not even family because they have nothing to give me. So I didn’t exactly have a good starting off point in life.
I’m not looking for a “handout”. I’m looking for what is fair and what is just ETHICALLY RIGHT. This country may have some of the best medical minds, but only a very select few get the chance to benefit from it.
People talk about all the time punishing the successful, well why is it okay to punish the sick? there are more health problems out there that have nothing to do with obesity and drug addiction.
And then to top it off my condition and pain gets worse the harder I work to try and save some money just for ONE damn test.
People who are against universal healthcare, PLEASE JUST TELL ME, what exactly is someone like me supposed to do?
If you’ve never had to deal with having a chronic condition AND no insurance in this country, you really have no place to comment on this horrible system we have. Of course it works for you, you don’t NEED it.
I dont know what the best answer to the problem is, but seriously, when we are the LAST industrialized country doing it this way, doesn’t that tell you something?
Kris,
See #101.
#75 – threatening to move to canada!
[…] For “free”. […]
If we are all quiet enough, we can hear the words coming out of the scientists mouths… you know, those ominous phrases they’ve been uttering like: ‘we are reaching global limitations’…’global food baskets will reach scarcity due to over-harvesting…’, and ‘we have calculated within certainty that the earth’s capacity to sustain human populations is at 8billion. We are fast approaching this number.’
So that we can all relax and just enjoy this brilliantly funny blog, here’s what it boils down to: there is NO SUFFICIENT and/or BETTER and/or FAIR health care system. Anywhere.
The best that any of us can do as humans is to realize that what science is telling us is for REAL, and to then act upon that realization. It’s the little things, you know…? Like, taking our reproduction more seriously. Taking our consumption more seriously…etc.
Now then, how funny is this when taken at face value? I chuckled at the end because it is so silly. Yes I have not been sick, true. But my husband has a chronic condition. Strike that. I WAS a severe azmatic as a young child and almost died during one attack.
Any who, this was a simple and completely HARMLESS reference to whites always wanting to be captains of industry, so to speak. Many white people do run a business and yet they wish it were another duck.
The grass is always greener, yaddah yaddah.
P.S. I read of this blog in Harper’s where it was mentioned -in true Harper’s style- that the blog was often misunderstood. That basically, the author was a part-time struggling artist of some sort (I can’t remember…photographer/writer/poet???) and he became inspired while shopping a Canadian Farmer’s Market thereby witnessing all the bizarre fruits/veggies/cheeses that the white people around him were taking great care to pick out. LOL!!
I think that while this may indeed be half true, the real motivation behind this man’s blog was to showcase his creative humor. In other words; Cha-ching!
And since I have yet to get to #1, PLEASE, PLEASE tell me it’s ***MONEY***!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Lest I be very disappointed.
Nice one. Sarah is bound by her insurence company.
I know you’re convinced it’s not fair, but did you get some guarantee at a store somewhere that says you’re never going to need money to pay for lung cancer treatment for the Marlboro’s you’ve smoked? Or liver treatment for all the Bud you’ve consumed? Or money for when the unpredictable happens?
I know I’ve exceeded what I’ve paid into the healthcare system here in Canada.
Back to your original sentence, why is the blog racist?
I support Darwin’s theory of natural selection (survival of the fittest). Universal healthcare is for the weak.
Youve got free health care.. just drop um off at the emergency and drive off done deal. If you need perscriptions just claim well Fare. Heck I pay for everyone to have free medical insurance… Well Fare….
welfare is not insurance. welfare will not get you an appointment with a doctor. welfare will not get you tests you need done.
claiming welfare in an emergency room just means you won’t have to pay for the pain reliever they give you. they won’t do tests or any work up what so ever. So you still leave with the problem you came in with.
Ah… yes, yes it will! Unless you are too lazy to even make an appointment!
You think that if we ever get free health care it may someday lead to a cure for stupid. If so, I’m all for it.
A cure for stupid = 50% less channels on cable tv.
How can you have “less” channels? I suppose you could have “lesser” channels, but I bet you meant “fewer.”
Okay Chris. I’m not saying you are one I don’t know you. But for you libs that seem to have this insatiable need to nit-pick every single word spoken or written by a conservative. What I ment was if we ever find a cure for stupid then half of the channels on cable would be out of business because there wouldn’t be enough liberals around willing to do a reality TV show. But, (and I know what libs being the nit-pickers they are, are going to say) I like watching reality TV because it confirms just how much smarter, despite my inability to spell, I really am compared to the average liberal.
i think most everyone that isnt rich likes free healthcare. take a look at how many people are at the doctors next time with a kid who has a cough and you’ll see how much
in canada that is.
Wow, you obviously havent been in an ER have you? If you have medicade or medicare or any of the social medical cards you get all the care that a private insurance patient will get. I work in an ER and plenty of shitbags walk in flaunting that card like we owe them something. They come to the ER for stupid things and call the ambulance to get a ride across town. Free healthcare is not a good thing. It doesnt matter what kind of insurance a person has we treat them. The law says we have to stabilize them before sending them back to the street. And if you think that the doctors are quick to street them, guess again. Most are afraid to be sued by some douche bag who doesnt do shit all day. I have seen a doctor get sued because a woman’s 19 y/o son was killed. She sued the doctor b/c he didnt save her son. It would have been a lot easier if her son hadnt been shot with a 12 gauge at point blank range but that didnt stop her from suing. Didnt matter to her that her son had a lot (about 4 baggies) of drugs on him and was wearing a local gangs colors. For the sake of the intelligent people in healthcare, we do not need to give the morons in this country free health care.
you’re an idiot.
I totally agree.
Went to see my primary care physician today. Need to see a specialist. He got me in Tomorrow. America Rocks.
Oh yea, because my dad is a M.D., I don’t have to pay, anything, thanks to something called professional courtesy. Try that shit in Canada.
Man there are some incredibly ignorant, selfish, ugly people posting here. Not to mention seemingly illiterate (or possibly just hamfisted, it’s hard to tell). Anyway – spot on DrPete – a little wit! I like it.
What a bunch of shallow `neo-con` (read ignorant selfish deluded`) arseholes many of you are. I really sincerely hope one day some of you selfish idiots finds yourselves on your collective arses, desperately in need of the charity or empathy of another human being. May you suffer and die cold and alone. Oh and that includes you Ryne McClaren, whoever you may be. Nice avatar by the way, speaks volumes. Elvis who? I have no idea who you are talking about…fool.
Oh and as I don’t live in your godforsaken country, much of the shit you spout means little, or, more precisely nothing, to me. I live in the UK, which for now at least, can claim some moral highground when it comes to caring for the less fortunate in society. Have some goddamn humility and grace. What is wrong with you?
MMmm, rrreally… you suppose you could have “lesser” channels, do you? Well you could, but I believe that would be more of a qualitative than quantitative measurement… I think you will find that “less” channels is closer to the mark. However pedantic, “fewer” is arguably, technically more righter (!) … 😉
Either way, I think “no” or “0” TV channels, and “many” or “more” BOOKS and more real world experience would be far better for everyone, broadly speaking.
I don’t think you understand that free health care comes at a cost. Just because you get the health care for free doesnt mean that it doesn’t cost money. Taxes, gas, and food would sky rocket in price (just like in Europe). For example, Ireland has free health care, but gas is currently over $9 per liter. And remember, a liter is smaller than a gallon.
🙂 I agree 100%
$9/liter implies about $45 a gallon. Not possible.
Generally, gas is taxed higher in Europe to curb consumption, it’s not related as much to running the government.
It’s not “Free” healthcare that we need, (this blog is hilarious but this one post is ridiculous) it’s Universal. Which of course comes from paying taxes.
But look how fucked up the system we’re passively accepting now works: Insurance companies in the middle sucking 100s of billions of dollars a year, for effectively being nothing but a leeching middleman. Since they are profit-driven corporations, they must make money. The only way they make money is by either raising rates or denying claims. We’re paying twice as much, and get half as less.
Blow up their buildings and cut them. Finance our healthcare directly through taxation. It works everywhere else, and fantastically so.
As for the blogger’s comment about people wanting universal healthcare so they don’t have to work full time, she or he is forgetting that’s the problem:
I have an illness.
If I lose my job, I lose my insurance.
If I lose my work insurance, I have to get it elsewhere.
With my pre-existing conditions, the rate would be astronomical ($2,255 a month was the best quote).
So I’m stuck without medication and a doctor until I frantically find another place to work that has insurance.
Oh, and before one mentions Medicaid, in NYS you cannot have assets over $3,000 in order to qualify. So you if you have a 401(k), time to liquify.
Basically, I’m fucked. It’s not about not wanting to work, it’s that not wanting to be trapped and desperate.
Whoops $36/gallon. Time to review those multiplication tables.
Some of you people – over-educated, upper-middle class, psuedo-intellectual elitist liberals – dont really reason things out and make the hard choices. You do and say things that make you feel good instead of doing things that actually produce intended results. (i.e. promoting diversity in public shools by bussing inner city students, then sending your kids to private school)
I would argue, that this is more shallow than your aforementioned “neo con” mindset.
What does so-called reality tv (face it, there is nothing real about it) have to do with liberalism or conservatism?
The blunt truth is that the people you’re watching on those shows are the average Americans.
The people who enjoy watching it are the ones who can’t get on the show.
Which one have you’ve been on lately?
Amen! Unless you have an uninsurable or pre-existing condition, you have no idea how scary our healthcare system can be. What we need is insurance reform and standardized cost of procedures, like in Japan and laws that guarantee coverage.
When I had insurance through my employer (which I had only had in the first place because my “condition” hadn’t been diagnosed yet,) I had to fight to get dr’s visits covered because the insurance co. was always trying to claim it didn’t have to pay because of my “pre-existing condition”, even when the visits had nothing to do with my disease.
When I quit my job, thank goodness I was able to get a catastrophic plan (only because I was previously insured) but I’m only able to afford a high-deductible catastrophic plan, so basically I’m paying out-of-pocket for everything except anything over $5000.
Texas alone could kick your crappy county’s ass.
Right on, fortuzero! “I live in the UK, which for now at least, can claim some moral highground when it comes to caring for the less fortunate in society” Beautifully said. That is all it comes down too. These morons on this blog want to turn this into some kind of welfare argument about who deserves what….
We have no collective moral highground in this country, nor any humility or grace. I can only imagine you Europeans looking at us and saying “what the hell?”
We have truly turned into a society defined by narcissism, self-righteousness and some stupid “to hell with the less fortunate” attitude. Embarrassing!!!
Oh my my Katelyn – you are well informed aren’t you? 9$ a litre??? Where on earth did you get that number luv? Petrol (gas for Americans) costs about 1 Euro a litre in Ireland – thats about 1.40$US per litre. But you are right honey, a litre is indeed smaller than a gallon. Good on ya dear.
Wow. Does fortuzero’s head hurt with the effort of typing and “thinking” at the same time? You must love the lack of midwives in the NHS, the fact that little girls are to be given inferior cervical cancer vaccines to save money, the cancer postcode lottery – where your survival in the NHS directly depends on where you live – and the 400 people who recently died from shitty care in one hospital alone, as well as the filthy hospitals, the lack of NHS dentists, the fact that they’re rationing Alzheimer’s drugs to save money, the fact that it’s a black hole for other peoples’ money…
But hey, don’t let the facts get in the way of feeling superior and good about using other peoples’ money to provide substandard care. God forbid you’d ever let go of the pleasant mental masturbation of moral outrage long enough to realise that the only problem with US healthcare is too much government interference, not that there’s not enough of it. Grow up.
A common opinion most Liberals seem to have these days is that this country stinks. I have a suggestion for all of you. Get your intellectually superior head out of you ass and it might not smell so bad. And you don’t need to wait on universal “free” health care to do that, you can do it all by yourself if you try.
you are the moron here my friend. I am a Dr. and i treat the homeless for a living. Most people in our fabulous country dont even realize that we already have socialized health care. You just go around complaining about things because you have to wait longer than 30 minutes. If you go to the ER, you get treated. If you go to the ER with back pain you may have to wait a couple of hours. However, if you go in with a heart attack you will do NO waiting!
I treat the homeless people in our county FOR FREE. The recieve FREE exams and FREE medicine. If we go on and completely socialize health care its over. We will have less Dr’s who are less intelligent because they can make much more money doing almost any other thing.
You people disgust me with you socialist views. How bout I come and tell you how much you can charge for whatever it is that you sell and I tell you how much you have to sell and who you have to sell it to. Im sure none of this makes sense to you because anyone with a liberal idea is rite.
How do I get a social medical card? I don’t live on the street; and I’m not in a gang; and I come from a middle class family; and I still cannot get coverage…oh, that’s what I thought, I can’t. Well, thank you for treating me, “medical professional,” and for judging me. So good to know that even the people educated to save our lives have something to say about who they think we are. Really though, isn’t the idea to help people in need, and not play elitist, trying to determine whether a drug user deserves the help he or she needs from an obviously more competent doctor? It’s thought processes like these that beget the need for socialized healthcare.
Word, Vivisfugue. That is the healthcare system I know. Neither system seems adequate, if that is, (as Stephane writes) in fact, how the Canadian healthcare system functions (I can’t speak from personal experience). I think, then, it is pretty moot to try and determine which system is better or worse.
I, for one, have absolutely no qualms about paying taxes to help people less fortunate than I. Shit, I am in a lower socio-economic group, but I would gladly pay taxes to help people who made less than I. Go ahead, put me in your comfortable “liberal” box, but I prefer to think of it as humanitarian when it comes to health and well-being.
Shut up, American Guy. That’s all I have to say about that.
Love it.
There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
Something I’ve always wondered about and heard on the Radio a few days ago was that most southern segregationist during the civil rights movement of the 50s and 60s were Democrats. I did a little research and it may be true. Exposes some of that liberal hypocrisy, doesn’t it?
No such thing as Free, someone has to pay for it. No such thing as Universal. That implies everyone will be treated equally and we all agree that ain’t happening. Socialized means higher taxes, i.e. Canada, and one step from communism which if I remember correctly means loooonnnngggg lines with few choices which means you take what is handed to you or you do without or you go wait in another long line just to get the same old crap. Fewer choices mean lower quality obviously do to no competition. No competition means somehow the government has got involved and were all F***ED! Because as we all know the federal government rarely runs anything as it should be run and eventually runs out of money to run it because of mismanagement on their part, i.e. social security.
due to. not, do to. Just in case Hmmm is still here.
Q. Why is it that liberals are so bent on keeping the government “big brother” out of our buisness and yet so open to universal health care?
A. ???
I need to get off this sight and get a life.
No it doesn’t. It was different 50 or 60 years ago but the parties have realigned themselves since them. Those segregationist might have been Democrats back then but have since switched to Republicans. It’s almost like saying that the Republican party is the party of Lincoln. Read up on your facts before making dumb statements.
First of all, according to your own statement I did get my facts correct. They were Democrats, Thank you for that. Secondly, I never said anything about Lincoln. But since you brought it up, Lincoln started out as a Whig but that party ended so he became a Republican and is to today still considered the leader most associated with the end of slavery in the United States. He was also the primary supporter of the Thirteenth Amendment that guaranteed slavery would never again be allowed to exist in the United States. So, if you are calling today’s Republican’s Segregationist you are obviously another one of those, if the facts don’t agree with me I’ll distort them tell they do, Liberals. The Republican party, or the party bound by the constitution, today is the party of individual and equal rights for ALL people unlike the Democrats, not bound by any constitution, who believe that equal rights are only for those aligned with their Liberal philosophy. Which is liberal hypocrisy. Maybe YOU should read up on the facts before calling someone’s statements dumb!
The modern Republican Party would be almost unrecognizable to Lincoln (one example off the top of my head. Modern Republican Party pushes for States Rights when Lincoln attempted to create a more centralized government).
Also, Lincoln didn’t really create the Emancipation Declaration because he believed in the freedom of all people. In fact, he never once said, or written anything that would suggest that. Until 1861 (one year into the Civil War) Lincoln still favored colonization of slaves (gathering up all southern blacks and settling them in Africa. We all agree, this is a racist sentiment).
When you refer to “He was also the primary supporter of the Thirteenth Amendment that guaranteed slavery would never again be allowed to exist in the United States.” I assume you mean that was due to the Emancipation Declaration of 1863. However, slaves are most responsible for their own freedom. They weren’t without agency. They forced that declaration by standing up against Plantation owners, sabotaging the Confederate army, and organizing themselves into battalions to fight against the South when the Union occupied their town. Lincoln was forced to write that declaration even though he was a racist SOB.
So…if your primary examples of the superiority of the Republican Party are these, than I will have to disagree. Unless you are arguing that the Republican Party has a history of being forced to pass legislation they don’t agree with, and not to following through completely. Than yes, I agree with that.
I haven’t been to the doctor in seven years. I would not be able to afford treatment if something was found wrong with me. I decided I’d rather purchase a college education. So, here I am in a state hit hardest by the recession, paying off my massive student debt and praying I don’t get sick.
Your site is wonderful, but this entry sucks.
Granted that tons of illegal immigrants use our emergency rooms and free clinics. That’s because they’re here working. If they were back in their country they would go to their “less-than-ideal-clinic” back in their country. No illegal immigrant comes here just for medical care (they can’t afford it)
There is a movement among American citizens going overseas to go get some crucial health care services like surgeries because the cost of the flight, stay to covalesce and the procedure itself, is less than what they would pay if they had the procedure performed here. Because believe it or not, doctors in other countries are still pretty good doctors, but they may not have all the CUTTING EDGE (Read: “overpriced) technology there. They can still perform basic lifesaving procedures.
@Mike: Funny how you like the other entries (all of them sarcastic and hilarious, because they are true), but reject this one. Yet, it is also true…
To the web site author: as a doctor and a white person, I can tell you that not ALL white people like “free healthcare.” I went to school/internship/residency/fellowship for literally 14 years to become board certified in my specialty, and I now make $140,000 a year (my gross, not my net). If I get devalued any more by politicians who would like me to perform my very skilled services on the cheap, I (and thousands of other capable physicians), will find work elsewhere. And America will be left with a less-skilled and/or less motivated health care workforce.
WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING BLACK PEOPLE WANT AND EXPECT FOR FREE. DUE TO A TIME IN THE PAST THAT WE HAD NO CONTROL OVER NOR WAS A PART OF.
This is exactly what happened in Canada. The ironic thingabout “free” healthcare is that it isn’t free at all. We pay astronomically high taxes for merely adequate care.
Hi…
The ironic thingabout “free” healthcare is that it isn’t free at all. We pay astronomically high taxes for merely adequate care.
Kate is an idiot…and probably partakes in 99% of the “white” activities proclaimed on this site
And learn to spell while you’re at it.
Jealous of being first to post in a thread? Only losers announce that they are first.
Why does everyone have to be so nasty?
I think we can all agree that there is a problem. We have some 40 million people (I think) who are uninsured, a portion of which are children. Most everyone would agree, wheather you’re a supporter of universal health care or not, that we aren’t just going to sit and watch people die or suffer because they don’t have health care. So it’s established that they’re going to be treated one way or another.
Now it doesn’t seem logical that we are going to continue the way that we are. Caring for the patience who are uninsured, as we are, is causing those of us who are insured to pay more. Everytime a hospital/doctor sees someone without insurance, they basically write it off…never going to see that money. So prices increase for those of us who do pay to cover that cost. Kind of like shoplifting in a store. Prices are raised for those who pay to cover the cost of those who don’t.
On the other hand, it doesn’t make sense to just give health care to everyone. People work had to get ahead and live the life that they want to live. It’s not right on any level to take from them, what they’ve worked hard for, and give it to someone else. Not to mention that there are few places that have universal health care without problems of their own. Universal Health care simply trades one set of problems for another while also increasing everyone’s taxes.
A happy medium has to be found. Just because there is a problem, and universal health care was proposed, doesn’t mean it’s the answer. It is important that everone keeps their passionate opinions (without all the negativity). If it weren’t for these individuals pulling in each direction, we’d never end up in the middle.
Perhaps some other issues should be addressed. For instance, the fact that the cheapest place to eat right now is off the McDonalds dollar menu, or Wendy’s value menu! I don’t think that is going to contribute too positively to our Health Care industry over the next 10 years. Or the fact that health and PE are usually the first programs eliminated when budgets are cut.
Honest question. If your work becomes “devalued” where would you all go?
I’ll write, I’ll teach, I’ll go back to school, I’ll head to one of the many incredible for-profit hospitals which are springing up in Thaland, India, etc, (look it up!), you name it. I am not going to work 14 hours a day, putting myself at risk of a malpractice claim, etc, unless I am compensated enough to make it worthwhile.
This is precisely what has happened in Canada (my wife is Canadian and we lived there for a while, had one of our babies under the Ontario Health Insurance Program). There are a few dedicated, skilled health care providers there, but most of those type of people have fled to the U.S. or simply retired early on their earnings. A shame, really, but it will happen here if the same thing is imposed, I promise you.
I think this site is hilarious, but you do realise there are white people in Europe, right? You’re just talking about American white people in most of these posts.
Well said DC
1-800-DOCTORB,
If we end up with universal health care, and you know we will. Don’t you think the term “you can’t sue city hall” will apply.
Hey! did I just come up with a good reason for having UHC? No more useless lawsuits!
Thailand and India are both UHC countries. What makes you think for-profit institutions will cease to exist here?
Also, I hope you can appreciate the irony of what you’ve written here. You are against the idea of free health care, but the country in which you’re thinking of fleeing to seek better compensation (and I bet has better laws protecting doctors from frivolous lawsuits) is a nation that practices free health care. Do you see how all these things might be related?
If you believe India or Thailand is a worthwhile option to practice medicine then you believe in free health care.
Actually, the India and Thailand examples prove quite the opposite point.
The difference is that both of these countries allow for-profit institutions which charge more than the “government-mandated” rates. So, of course, the better, more skilled docs work where they can make more money. The fact that these hospitals are flooded with patients–many of them foreigners, coming from European countries with “free” healthcare–willing to pay out-of-pocket for quality care is a pretty damning commentary about the quality of the so-called “free” healthcare.
When I say that I would be willing to go to either of these places, I am NOT talking about working for the government in the national system. That would be silly, as the average physician’s salary in India is about 250,000 rupees (or $6000).
Back to my original point regarding free healthcare. You get what you pay for. It is expensive (both in terms of time and money) to become a doctor, and if the compensation sucks because the government mandates that it suck, then the doctors and the healthcare they provide will suck, too. Period.
I think the problem is more that money has become such a big factor in the current healthcare setup that we don’t even know anymore if what a doctor tells us is true or not.
How do I know the drugs being perscribed are things I really need? Or is the doctor prescribing them because the drug maker took him on a luxorious cruise a month ago?
What about the actual cases of Americans losing all their retirement savings, home, etc…because of an illness and the insane hospital bills?
I think the answer is simply CHOICE, but also ENFORCEMENT. My beef with the idea of universal healthcare is that we’re not a very healthy country. My concern is that I’ll be giving tax dollars to keep alive a person who spends every day killing himself. We’ve all seen it. Men and women waddling around with 100+ extra pounds of blubber, chowing down on super-size portions of junk, guzzling beer, and possibly smoking on top of it.
My idea is simply that we have a basic system of healthcare, but if one does not want in on it, then they can purchase healthcare from a provider they like. THEN…they can write it off on their taxes, thus not paying for the universal system they’re not using. I also think the unhealthy should be denied some benefits if they choose not to improve their lives. So the example I spoke of before…maybe it’s better we let them die than spend tons to keep them alive. Make it clear they need to eat better, exercise, quit smoking, etc…or they won’t be given the bigger better care and drugs by the system. Lord knows insurance companies do this already.
FINALLY…the government needs to really step in to regulate the cost of drugs, care, and use law to keep the lobbyists out. One thing about America…if one company says to hell with us, another comes rolling in with open arms ready to sell us goods and services.
Zing!!
Get over it people
Who, besides a snobby asshole, cares if he wrote less or lesser? You understand what he means leave it alone.
No battery man.
These illegals get jobs because of the shit work ethic that is slowly consuming this country. It ain’t about cheaper labor, its about wanting to get the job done WITHOUT
Quite……how……white.
White girl
Hows things in la la land???
Mommy and Daddy pay for just about everything, huh?
uhh
Yeah, its probably true that a greater number of whites receive welfare, but how about %%%%%%? Forget about those?
Using your stats, 38.8% of those getting welfare are black? Even though they are what, 16,18% of the population?
No, it should be STFU.
OK. It goes to show there are a lot of lazy stupid and unlucky mofos out there, with unlucky being thrown in to cover the stragglers.
People are lazy. THey are selfish. They like blaming others.
This description covers the have it alls and the have nots. BOth suck, each for their own reasons.
So lets raise the taxes in the good ole us of a and invade canada and get us all of their……………………..hmm…………uhh……………lets get their……their………………….WOOD! Yeah, lets take all the wood they have……don’t have much else do they?
And illegal mexicans WORK FUCKING CIRCLES around our wonderful white working class.
Don’t even bother reading the wussies post after me. Whether that story was made up or true……………
Thats the BEST farking story I have read in a long time. It should be on those “priceless” commercials.
I bet she gave you the DOUBLE O FACE!!
Put your head on my should tobias, squeezing em out like a good little girl………………..
THis guys an asshole for what? Being cheated on? Being lied to? Protecting himself?
A tatoo artist, huh? Thats an important job.
Lemme guess, smokes, does drugs, and drinks like a fish.
But she DESERVES insurance simply because she exists, huh tough guy….
That statement is just so not true.
“Hasn’t anyone heard about where we supposedly get most of our meds anyway?”
Ah yes, facts to the rescue.
No, it isn’t.
I got sick and received *terrible* healthcare while studying abroad (yes) in the UK. 8-12 months wait for a tonsillectomy. I just had to deal with monthly bouts of viral (thus non-treatable) of tonsillitis, finally getting it treated within a couple of days of my return to the states (a good 6 more months in the U.K.)
You can have tax payer sponsored healthcare (no such thing as free healtcare) – give me choice.
It is actually illegal for a drug company to promote their products through marketing campaigns, i.e. cruises, bonuses, etc. at most all a drug company can do for physicians at this point is give them free notepads, pens, and magnets during a scheduled drug education at a crappy hotel with crappy food. Even these “sponsored” events are frowned upon.
Drug companies now spend the majority of their marketing budget on consumers in the form of advertisements on television, magazines, and online. Actually creating more problems for your physicians because you saw an add for a drug to keep you pathetic middle aged hair from falling out, but you have no idea of the side effects (that it makes your balls shrink and gives you prostate cancer), yet you insist on having it prescribed. Then you sue the doctor and the drug company because you have prostate cancer.
Maybe the problem is not just with the healthcare system itself, but with the white consumer that is just informed enough to be a danger and an nuisance.
More people need to know this stuff. The ones that support state sponsored health care are just ignorant. They need to know the differnence between “a beautiful idea” and “reality”.
I mean how much fun is it to go to the DMV, get a passport, get a soc sec card or birth certificate re-issued? Think about it people, the govt doesnt run anything smoothly.
More people need to know this!!!! The people who support state sponsered health care just dont know any better. They need to get educated and figure out the difference between what is a “beautiful idea” and what is “real”. Communisim is a great idea and works great ON PAPER, but as we all know cant and wont work out!!!!
I mean how much fun is it to go to the DMV, get a passport, or try and get a Soc Sec card or birth certificate re-issued???
This has already happened in the other countries with state sponsered health care. Many leaders in this country have been interviewed saying it is a bad move to socialized health care, all their best doctors have moved and health care overall is worse. People have to wait a long time for simple procedures. Please read the other posts of personal experiences.
You are exactly wrong…Traditionally Liberal Ideas call for a BIG federal govt. with its hand in about everything. Just look at any of Obama’s socialist programs. ie – health care or bailing out failing business’s, and higher taxes. Republicans generally want a smaller federal govt, hands off on health care and private business’s and lower taxes. You know, the stuff this country was founded on (capitalisim, the right of all americans to PURSUE happiness, not the right TO happiness) and the reason we fought the revolutionary war high unfair taxes, big govt (the king). Looks like that is all going out the window.
Didnt we save your asses in a war or two? Just wondering?
Also, so you wont be so ignorant next time, everyone in america is treated when they are sick. If they go to a hospital they cant be turned around with out being looked at. So, were both on the same moral ground. The difference is…you guys are paying alot more in taxes for barely adequate care.
Thanks for your brightest doctors tho! If your govt didnt pay them sub standard wages we wouldnt have so many great dr.s from your country.
Cheerio!
Be warned, if you get sick while visiting Canada, the healthcare will most certainly NOT be free – be prepared for a whopping bill. It’s free for US, not for YOU – we pay for it through our taxes. Fools!
LOL….this site should be renamed to “Stuff White Liberal Americans Like”
SWLAL
Yeah, well, my dad is a cab driver, and our family can’t afford health insurance. Turns out that the people who work the hardest in this country get paid the least, thanks to your wonderful capitalism. If I were to get hurt, my family would be fucked. I’d rather wait 6 months on a surgery I need than not get it at all, oddly enough. The only people who are opposed to socialized medicine are those who can pay for insurance.
Saving people shouldn’t be a business.
this site is just racist, and is stupid. I personal do not believe in free stuff for anyone who sits on their butts and keep getting free stuff. Black and Mexican illegals are the ones who want free stuff, they are the only ones I see yelling race about every thing and yelling government owes them and so do the white people. Well let me tell you I owe you nothing and life is what you make of it and if you just want to keep yourself down and have the government support you then point the finger to the right group. All I ever hear Obama talk about is the Black and illegals. Now when you want to talk about what white like, then you best take a look at yourself in the mirror, because you are talking about yourself and you wonder why the race problem want go away, well it is because of the ones that keep yelling racism and want things because of their race. Wake up this a country for all and to be for all means to work together as people and not race.
Wow, you are fucking idiot. You criticise this site for being racist and then you start making racist remarks about blacks and Mexicans. You obviously did not get the point of this site and you obviously live in an impoverished area of the US if you do not know the kind of people that this site is referring to. Grow a brain, dumbass.
Vincent,
The people in this country who work the hardest aren’t just people who drive cabs all day. They are the ones who put in 16 or more hours per day, every day, working fulltime jobs while puting themselves through school to get an education to become i.e., Doctors or Engineers with HUGH!!! amounts of responsibilites. With Doctors its your life while on that operating table. With Engineers its your life while in that building your in or that bridge your Dad crossed this morning . And “oddly enough” the people who are opposed to socialized medicine are those who understand the problems that will come with it.
Your statement shows the mind set of Liberals in general. Why should I have to work for it…
No. It’s not why should I have to work for it. Your statement shows the mind set of conservatives. I don’t want to contribute and help others. Turns out, society is a collaborative effort. We all work together to make a better world for EVERYONE.
People who refuse to contribute don’t deserve the world, but what about their children? Do they deserve a shitty life because their parents are bums? The answer is no. They deserve every opportunity you do. If we have to carry along their shitty parents to give them that, it’s the lesser of 2 evils.
Also, my Dad could get robbed and shot. My father has come close to that kind of thing happening. In Cincinnati, taxi drivers aren’t allowed guns. My aunt had her finger cut off in factory equipment. Doctors and Engineers don’t face that.
Socialized medicine does have faults, but the current system does, too. You can improve a system and make it more efficient. We either need to make this one cheaper or get rid of it.
my son joined the marines right out of highschool, he was deployed right away, he came home with an injury to his shoulder,a chipped bone floating around,because he was in the reserves,he only had coverage for three months to fix his shoulder,the hospital couldnt get him an appt for four months to fix it,he was cut off before surgery,and i cant afford it, im a single mom of two,and he certainly couldnt work because of the pain.the marines released him and now he cant even go to the veterans hospital for care because his injury isnt concidered necessary,even though he cant lift his arm…my son is screwed.And his future as a tax payer,well lets just say he cant pay.
i know a 7 year old who is obese, is this her fault?should we not help her because she keeps eating and getting fatter? i would help, i would share my taxes if you wouldnt, lets not forget people, that children are the future,and whatever we do for them now will come back in the future.and who exactly do u think should decide who gets care or not, what do we do a questionair? stupid,obvoiusly you need to spend some time in a clinnic in an inner city,if u have a heart..fool. educate yourself on the majority,,that is us working class poor people.
The reason health insurance cant be afforded by the poor is because so many go to hospitals and get treatment and DONT PAY. all thoose that DO have insurance pay for all the losers who never pay their bills.
im sure you anti-caucasian liberal pinko treehumpers knew that.
it’s funny cause we already do… beez is right if you want don’t wanna pay for a doc just go to the ER. he forgot to mention the millions of illegal immigrants who do this as well. Not to mention half of all uninsured people CAN afford insurance but choose not to pay it so they can get TVs boats and other nice things.
it’s also funny cause the death rate of ALL ailments are considerably higher in Canada and Britain because you have to wait anywhere from a few months to a couple years for operations that are just done as needed in the U.S.
The fact is progressive socialism such as universal healthcare is just plain selfish.. Think everyone has a right to healthcare? K! Doesn’t mean you have a right to every dollar i earn. Why stop at universal healthcare really? Why not universal food and shit even ipods for everyone..
I’m actually surprised this is on here, i guess this site isn’t called “stuffwhitepeoplewithjobslike.com”, but even so i’d expect this to be on a site called “stuffselfishwhitepeopleandminoritieslike.com”
I find it funny that you try to insult universal health care by comparing it to universal food (i.e. something everyone should have, universally). Then there are those who think that the socialization of a system means that the government takes all of their money and screws them over. The very idea that any one person could have too much while any other person has too little is offensive on the most basic of moral levels. The comparison of the health care systems of France, Canada, Britain, et cetera, with the possible socialistic system the US could employ are frivolous, regardless of what sides use them. Yes, they are a general indicator of such a system, but it would be much different in the US, which has a larger population, a different economy, etc. So, for good or for bad, we’d have to try it ourselves to know how it would turn out. I would be more prone to calling someone selfish if they didn’t want to take a minor tax increase to vastly improve the situations of others.
Yes, I’m sure it isn’t a broken system, corrupted by greed. Oh, wait, it is. I, personally, am not an “anti-caucasian liberal pinko treehumper”. All men are created equal, so I really don’t care what color someone’s skin is is, I am NOT liberal (nor conservative, as both sides disgust me), I have no idea what “pinko” means, and I have never considered “humping” a tree. Ever. However, if I gather your meaning, you are saying that it is a bad thing to recognize that the environment that supports us shouldn’t be wantonly destroyed. Unreasonable, I know.
I think insurance is a joke and health care needs to be made affordable. What did we do before insurance existed? I will say medicaid seems to be working fine for us.
What white people don’t fully appreciate is that the coloured peoples just aren’t suited to white healthcare.
Asians aren’t too bothered when an individual dies, what’s important is that their family name carries on.
And there’s nothing sadder than an old black person, like an old dog, who can’t run or dance in the sun anymore.
It’s not doing them a favour to keep them living longer. They can’t make use of a longer life and their high reproductive rate means every extra coloured is more stress on the others.
I WANT A MILLION DOLLARS!!! Can one million RICH WHITE PEOPLE send me one dollar apiece, puh-lease????
I don’t want money from any Asians, or Blacks or Hispanics. You guys NEED your money. I only want one dollar apiece from RICH WHITE PEOPLE, who only WASTE their time and money fantasizing about free healthcare.
Waste it on me instead. Thanks so much! (First person who comments “You ARE a waste.” is a rotten egg. You thought it. I know you did. Stop lying. See? I knew it.)
http://thepighasacurlytail.wordpress.com/million-dollar-fund/
I live in Germany and I pay taxes. These taxes pay for what you guys call “universal health care.”
And guess what?
I’m totally fine with it.
Because I know that everyone in my Country gets a good health treatment.
And Germany is a real existing country and not la-la-Land.
You Guys seem to take all the justification for your selfishness from saying that you are “working hard” (whatever that implies…).
What are you gonna do with that extra-money your’e saving there??
Paying your kids a good health insurance, so that they can focus on beeing artists?
And please don’t mention Britain’s health-care-system again. Everyone with a little bit of political education would know that this system has been ruined by the conservative party during the Thatcher era.
If you dont even know about those things you shouldn’t call yourself either conservative or liberal, because you dont have a clue about politics.
…White people would like free health care if they could get it…
This article is racist. Most of the comments from the readers are racist. I forgot what the whole article was about because all I saw was “white people” this and “white people” that. Racism should not be tolerated anywhere in the world regardless of whether they want free health insurance or not.
Barbara,
I’m tired of hearing “Black this and Black that” Black History month, Black Buisness Men Association, Black College, BLACK BLACK BLACK. Have you ever noticed that if we exchanged the word black for white all of a sudden it becomes racist. Wheres the difference??? If it ain’t racist when it’s called black then how is it racist when it’s called white? I hope your not one of those AA that think you can’t be a racist if your black. If you are then your a RACIST. And if your white then you are a SUCK UP!!!
As a healthcare professional working in the UK I am totally in favour of free healthcare. In the operating theatre department where I work, we rented out one of our theatres to BUPA, a private healthcare provider.
Some of their standards were appaling, and the professionals working for them had little to no say in how things were ran. Whereas in the NHS theatres in my department we were (and still are) able to put our foot down and say no to various things our managers propose to save time/money.
If our government tried to turn the NHS private, I genuinely believe that most of the staff working for the NHS would go on a national strike because of how much lower standards would become.
How did it feel to be born without a sense of humor?
doesn’t everyone want free healthcare??
who would want to pay for it if it was offered for free?
who do you think pays for it dumbass. taxes. do you think the doctors just wouldn’t get paid?
Yeah how did it feel to disregard the whole post based on two words you didn’t like? Oh heaven forbid the writer of this blog doesn’t share your political views… like you said, we can’t tolerate that, can we?
I don’t, that would ruin us like he said:”But the secret reason why all white people love socialized medicine is that they all love the idea of receiving health care without having a full-time job. This would allow them to work as a freelance designer/consultant/copywriter/photographer/blogger, open their own bookstore, stay at home with their kids, or be a part of an Internet start-up without having to worry about a benefits package. Though many of them would never follow this path, they appreciate having the option.” and i hate that idea of people getting handouts with out working! because I (a taxpayer) has to pay for some one else’s laziness! and yes I am white.
AMEN!.
I’m with this guy, send me your money!!!!
Well, this is America and not Germany.
Maybe we should send you all our illegal immigrants.
Then we can send you our liberals, and they can start affirmative action in Germany, and unqualified, less educated minorities will start taking positions as doctors and nurses based solely their race.
Then we can send you our lawyers and they can start suing hospitals and doctors like crazy for malpractice.
And then once your health care starts becoming too expensive, our liberals can raise taxes and spend trillions to make things better.
Maybe you should understand how politics in America actually works
I bet if your ass was sick to the point of death, you’d take all the free health care that’s offered.
Healthy people can complain about the costs of healthcare. But life has a way of making everyone a consumer of healthcare, and if it’s not offered, then you die.
Healthcare should be a right, not a privilege.
kiss my BLACK ass!
beeeotch.
if i was beaten half to death and didn’t have health care…well then I guess my only option would be to die. OH wait!!! I forgot our hospitals have emergency rooms!!! that can’t deny us help!! but I’d probably have to wait on account of all the illegal immigrants using the emergency rooms. =/
Sick to the point of death, not beaten to the point of death. If you are sick and need certain medicines but do not have the money to get those medicines, you will die.
And if you see so many illegal immigrants in the emergency rooms, it’s because so many redneck white folk are sending them there.
Is healthcare a privilege, or a right?
Finally I am SO white and I finally found one of these that is way off! There are plenty of white people who aren’t stupid enough to think there is such thing as “free” health care. Why not have “free food”- I mean everyone should have food, right?
They are not free. It is just a way to get someone to pay for someone else against their will. That’s all socialism is.
Are people actually considering voting For Free Healthcare?
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WTF are you talking about. I guess you’ve never been anywhere south of like, um, Virginia.
I promise you that a significant and frightening percentage of white people are stockpiling weapons and ammo to fight the “commies”…at least in west Texas.
This blog should be “Stuff White Northerners Like”, or just “Stuff White Hipsters Like”
“Health care mayhem in town hall meetings” right now on ABC’s GMA. The American way of democracy is dying out, and my French father who left a country 41 years ago with free health care my relatives get, is shocked to see this , but he knew politics in every country is all the same. I’m unhappy about the cost of health care and being on Medi Cal. is good but like a savings account of a failed S&L bank. +
there’s no such thing as people starving to death in the US. But there are people dying in the US due to lack of healthcare.
That is not socialism.
That’s called neglect.
Is healthcare a privilege or a right?
you didn’t answer the question.
You WILL pay for it – nothing is ever free. If the government is going to pay for an over 1 Trillion dollar program (the estimates), that money comes from somewhere. They either print it, or it comes from your taxes. So YOU pay for it at the end of the day – or your kids will now that we’ve got no problem saddling at least 1-2 generations worth of debt just to get out of this current crisis.
I have a question for all of you supporters of free health care.
Have anyone of you ever been to a VA hospital? I’m betting NO!
Heres a government run system where you should get the very best health care available, especially when you consiter that the person needing care helped to defend our country. If you ask anyone about how they were treated at a VA hospital. Most will say not very well.
Thats right the VA are horrible and that is how all the hospitals will be with this stupid Obamacare. I also think that is not a white thing. But then again there are a lot of stupid white people.
What the hell is the matter with you? Are immigrants less of people? Have you had to wait for something ridiculous like that? That comment made you sound pretentious and greedy
when you join the military, you know you sign a waiver that you cannot sue the military for any ‘mistakes’ they may or may not commit during your healthcare treatment…
Also, it is pretty well known in the medical field that most of the doctors in military practice are NOT your better practitioners….if you cannot find work in private practice, join the military…
These are two main strikes against the VA, which means that you are comparing apples to oranges. Mr. Obama has stated several times that the health care system as it is will definitely bankrupt our economy, but people like you are only yelling about how much it will cost. How come you are not saying anything about how much the healthcare system COSTS NOW?
Things that make you go hmmmmm…..
i guess this kinda doesn’t apply a year from then…
however it does seem to work in europe so whats the problem?
i guess people will not understand free healthcare until you have to pull a plug on your love one because you don’t have $10,000 a day to keep them alive.
You are getting socialized medicine and a government option mixed up. This healthcare reform will not institute new doctors which would be socialized medicine. It simply creates an option with reduced overhead which means cheaper for the consumer. Basically, the VA Hospitals are a separate issue.
Nobody like me can’t give an answer, one of the most controversial issues today. Health care is a human right, nobody should die waiting for a surgery to feel better and live a full natural life. Then again, everything is not free, and universal free health care comes from taxpayer money.+
Absolutely, we must either reduce health care costs or have to pay in our taxes for a national health care service, as the HMOs are the worst thing to happen in health care. Instead of forking over $2,000 just to have your skin examined for a possible cancerous tumor. It’s senseless to make the cost of health care unaffordable and employers are dropping insurance, so the CEO can own a yacht or get a Bentley. +
White people with money are into home gardening tips to grown your own organic vegetables and fruits, who wants to own a garden in their very own home plot? Forget it, we all should have a communal vegetable garden for everyone to eat. No more famine, obesity and picky-eating kids.+
CSWC, you believe in the NWO conspiracy, Obama is part of Al-Qaida, the UN is evil or the USSR will return? How far can you get right-wing about universal health care to help over 50 million Americans get free health insurance for once? +
I agree with Kate’s historical analysis into the Republicans bad relationship with Black American voters. The Civil War is not only about preserving the institution of slavery, but for Southern states to maintian sovereignity and the debate on “states’ rights” in the framework of the US constitution. Many Southerners like the US and portrayed a very patriotic people, the right-wing conservative Republican voting base consists of such die-hard patriots who think “America, right and NEVER wrong, USA! God Bless America, yee haw!” +
Perhaps she meant 0.9 Euro per liter? Historically, the cost of gas and car ownership until recent times was higher than in the U.S. You can go around France and find parts of the country have more bicycles, motorbikes, busses, trains and indeed smaller cars than what I observed in the USA. I don’t even drive and I’m nearing 30, I take the bus (time constraining), walk a mile or two, and rides a bike. +
How about 3 major networks, the FOX channel, PBS with its educational purposes and 2 or 3 independent/smaller TV network stations? That would be fine, thank you. Free TV is good for me. +
I work hard– I can’t afford health care!! It is too expensive.. it is ridiculous. And for those who said “go to the emergency room”– yes, that is what I have done in the past and I have the bills to prove it.. that I can not afford to pay. It sucks. And for those who don’t want to wait in line— oh my god– your privileged ass self shouldn’t have to wait behind the poor people, I get it. But they deserve to get health care too okay… I’m sorry if it inconveniences YOU. You can get your coffee and hamburgers from poor people, but god forbid you have to wait for care behind them. If this is the cost of getting them the care they need then so be it. Let’s take care of them first and then start working on making the process efficient and cost effective. Let’s not use it as an excuse to deny them. Do the right thing first and then fix it.
The US government is in debt preparing for armageddon by nuclear war, or how the military is “more important” to the so-called military-industrial-corporate complex running the USA along with banks, foreign oil, interest group lobbys and may I mentioned the radical religious right to add with the liberal left elite? Whoever runs America did it great, but not correct or we wouldn’t have a health care insurance crisis for so many of us Americans not rich to pay for a $20,000 bill for a life-saving surgical procedure. +
Well I like many people, never indulge myself in politics or government issues. Only from time to time read things in the news.
As I am very busy working my great American job with insurance. I only make enough to live from day to day. And do not make enough to pay for all the extras billed to me after they are done. well good oh American insurance! I make more than most and I am insured but I gain nothing. Yes I pay taxes “just like you” but this goes where, Hell if I know. So this makes me “what”? (special) Not really I just work all day to pay my bill and insurance. I have broken my back at work ten years ago, because work comp doctors did not spend the money to really check me out? You know that good old’ American insurance. So now that someone has identified the problem. The insurance company said it is out of statue of limitations so now i get to pay for all the hard work I have done and literally broke my back. So now my friend I cant hardly walk from the arthritis that has set into the joint. because I had been told nothing was wrong with me. so the way I see it when I cant come to work because I am so bad off, than i will no longer have that insurance I have paid so dearly for over twenty years and not really ever used it. So sir I ask you? What the hell am I supposed to do now. I have never ask for any special help my whole life and sir I have worked for thirty years and paid taxes. that is my whole life. So don’t tell me about paying taxes, I paid my fair share.
But sir let me ask you what did all my tax money go to .I don’t have a clue. So why cant the pay for someone’s health care. Because now that I will not have any insurance someone could pay for mine. If this healthcare is thought out carefully this could solve a lot of problems. Not just for the poor or worthless as you called i.e. do not wish to sit at home on my ass and get free health care. But in return may need this to get me back on my feet to get back to work. So I can make money pay the taxes to help you some day sir when the same thing happens to you. And remember this sir GREED will bring you down. Because bad karma has a way of coming back to bite you in the ass my friend. So lets take a look at this system that other countries have and tweak it a little make it work for all to enjoy.
Some of this stuff is true but this definately is not! What color is the sorry excuse for a president that is the biggest socialist in American Government history. Free healthcare is something that lazy americans that don’t want to work want (and those come in every color). I don’t think you can catagorize any Gender or Race.
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Real presidents don’t apologize for their country!
Another conservative myth on liberals are racists or sexists, but are conservatives the one who had an issue with civil rights laws and customs? The “P-C” charge whenever we hire a black man or a woman, except in a world where discrimination is both illegal and immoral we can’t be like “they hired a black guy because the office wants to look diverse”…is a code word for “those darkies shouldn’t be working with computers”.+
Wow, free healthcare! This particular topic couldnt be more wrong. White people actually pay for their insurance coverage. I couldnt even believe this when I read it. Just on a political point alone, the democrats are the ones who want socialized medicine. And who are democrats? Thats right it is the black population that fancy the dems more than any! For that matter watch the news its the white people that are against the free healthcare not the blacks. I cant even believe I have to explain this. The discussion points I could present on this matter are virtually endless!
Human right my ass, you have got to be kidding me. So Sarah Laysalot can have 5 kids and the American taxpayer has an obligation to take care of them is what you are saying?
Dude, seriously nobody ever thought there would be new doctors, with new hospitals, with new machines and tools! lol The new healthcare option would be there along side the private option most people should know that hopefully most people do. However, it is because the government option can operate at a loss and continue to stay in business. A private insurance company that is the so called other option could not run at a loss and keep the doors open. So therefore that would clearly put private insurance option out of business and quickly. Thats why the people dont want government subsidized healthcare, cause eventually you would lose the other option hence the government healthcare take over would be eminent
Do you even know anyone in Europe that has used their own healthcare system. Clearly you dont because you would know that the system is broken. Their are over 1 million people waiting for a specific surgeryand another 1 million plus waiting to be seen by a specialist to get in line to get a surgery! I lie to you not feel free to look it up yourself, it is a scarey fact. How many of those do you think will even make it to the wait line! So no their healthcare doesnt work
Stop calling it Free Health care. It is far from free. We pay for it through the nose in taxes and through inferior service when compared to paid health care. I doubt you have to wait 10 months for an MRI with paid health care like you do with the “free” health care.
If (more likely, WHEN) your dumbass gets sick Brianna, I do hope that you have a good health plan and I do hope that you do not have any pre-existing conditions, and i do hope that your health plan will cover whatever sickness you have (or if you are in an accident, I do hope that your health plan will pay your bills promptly….).
If you are wealthy, then you can talk that bullshit you’re talking. If you are not wealthy, then you are eligible to be one accident or one disease or one sickness away from bankruptcy and/or no access to healthcare….
beeeeotch.
so what you’re saying is….punish the kids because of the mistakes of the parent(s)??
Since Ms. Laysalot had so many kids, the american taxpayer should not be obligated to make sure that her children have access to healthcare?
EJ, you are nothing but a black hearted dumbassed beeeeotch.
Hi Brianna
Free health care is something that working Canadians understand isn’t free. We pay for it in our taxes and we have chosen (quite freely) to do so.
We chose it in a time when we had fewer people of colour here than we do now. And we remain pleased and proud of our choice. We do, however, sympathize with our cousins to the south who are socialized into a knee-jerk fear of the word ‘socialist’ to the point that they stop thinking when they hear or see it.
Real presidents make choices to benefit all citizens!
Any guesses on how many “it isn’t free” comments republicans will post here? I write for http://StuffRichPeopleLove.com and know that rich people will always have great health care and don’t really care about how the rest of you are looked after!
More whites voted than black. Dumbass
It seems like you’ve figured it all out. Simply talk your way into an appointment, and you can see any doctor you want. I have had to do this myself. Actually, if you have a high-deductable insurance plan with “100% coverage” you simply show your card and you are welcomed right in. However, you have missed the point. The issue that we are facing in this country is not the “availabilty” of health care, ( I live in the northeast and have access to some of the finest facilities in the world) but it is the cost of health care that poses a problem for much of the working class. I know ” That’s what keeps the working class working, – BILLS! ” I feel like a drug addict, working to get the money to pay for what I need to keep working. I have a chronic condition, and a form of insurance ( the best I can afford for my family since my former employer closed and I lost all my benefits) but I still have to wait, sometimes months, to see these doctors that I am able to make appointments with, and spend almost a year trying to pay for them. So you see, it’s the “FREE” in “FREE HEALTHCARE” that is the issue. Before I hear the typical response that I expect, I know ” Nothing is free”. I pay a lot of taxes that go towards helping everybody else, and since I expect them to go up considerably ( Cars for poor people, caskets for dead people, weapons to kill people, destroy countries only to spend more money rebuilding them, in addition to all the usual forms of welfare and general mismanagement of government funds) I would like to see something in place that helps good, honest, hard – working families for a change. There is no place for ignorant comments made just for the sake of argument. There are many ” Broken” people in this country, many more ignorant people, not to mention greedy, selfish, opportunistic – but I digress. In the future, please keep your mind, ears, and eyes open…..or at least keep your mouth shut.
Well I get it, I reallly do. I heard all the responses and comments of those who are for or against the free healthcare reform; at least I’ve heard a variety. I know the issue is not necessarily being able to see a doctor, etc. The so called issue being cost and the cost to the taxpayer spending hard earned money on those who can’t afford healthcare for them selves. The cost of free healthcare is part of the issue for those who think they have a clue but trust me you don’t. Most people are pissed off because it’s their money that the governement is spending at their discrection, and that is what make the taxpayer mad. The governement has never done a great job at creating successful programs. I could write about this forever, an example of the medicaid program now and how the government determines who is covered regarding doctor’s visits and prescriptions is unacceptable. My wife and I work in the healthcare industry and we have worked with all the major pharmacies, and have seen thousands of scripts that were filled. Veterans of war , seniors, teachers, etc. have to pay unbelieveable amounts for their medicine, yet a man or woman with five kids, doesnt work, hair done, expensive clothes, etc will complain and only have to pay .50 cent to $3.00 co-pay on medicaid
In continuing with my previous comment. Don’t think I am giving you a couple of examples to draw this conclusion about these people who complain about their $3 medicaid co-pays. This is all day everyday at every pharmacy across the country hard working Americans paying hundreds for their medications, and parasite using the systems as a lifestyle and not a supplemental as it should be.
It’s soo easy to put people down on medicaid, isn’t it? That they have “5 kids” and “don’t work” and “complain”, etc. It’s sad that there are those like that, but behind your comments there’s too much ignorance and prejudice. Also, because you and your wife work for the healthcare industry, does your extensive experience makes those for free healthcare automatically (“trust me”) clueless? I’m right there with you when you complain about the goverment’s lack of competence in creating and running successful programs. But remember, it’s people that run the government, but it’s also people that can just complain, be ignorant and prejudice, or DO something; especially when they are well educated and experienced, as you seem to be. My point is, aren’t you just complaining also? Do you have the solutioins to fix this messy problem? Are you doing something about it? Don’t you think you have an obligation, with your experiences, to DO something more than just complain, as do the medicaid loosers? I speak for myself, equally, and I sence that you mean well, but I dissagree that the government has “never done a great job at creating successful programs”. I’m sure there would be many problems with a free healthcare program, but it’s a better solution than anything else I’ve heard of up to this point.
Not all Medicaid user “parasites” are ungrateful. Some say thank you every time they are given help and express thier gratitude with every appointment or service they are offered. They might even comment on the situation they’d be in if not for the help given at the time. Some even work
(most do, actually) and pay taxes! Suprise, suprise!
I just wanted to comment a little about some responses I just got. I know some want to bust my chops for my insensitive comments, and I can appreciate to anger towards me. That’s cool the truth hurts doesn’t it? And just to clear one misunderstood comment from one person on here. And maybe other who believe the BS as well write this down and tell your friends just incase they don’t know themselves. People that are on medicaid DO NOT pay taxes as one commented to me that they do! The reason why they don’t is simple, because those who are on the system do not fit in certain tax brackets, they would be in a low income tax bracket. That would be the only way they would qualify for medicaid or any other program for that matter. And lets say for example they make $14,000 a year and they pay in $1,100 in federal taxes, another $650 in state. Well thats great, but come the beginning of the year at tax time they file a return and get back EVERYTHING they put in plus other credits because of low income status. So the government pays more than they received. So, no people on the system DO NOT pax taxes and that is a fact. Those who pay in more taxes and that are in higher brackets would simply not be on the systems because they simply wouldn’t be able to even if they wanted!
Well, I am not denying that I may be a little prejudice towards people that are on the system. But, I’m definitely not ingnorant to the issues! And complaining, I think I earned the priviledge to complain; at least on a platform like this website I have. Hell, growing as a kid my family was poor and I was on the system myself. To me it was embarassing. Paying with food stamps, we didnt have the card thing that recipients have todays. Oh no, it was brightly colored food stamps. Being on welfare and getting free lunches at school with the odd lunch ticket that stood out and everyone knew you got free lunches; I hated it! I don’t need to say how I lived exactly, but rest assured it sucked. I don’t remember much in my life growing up even having electricity on in the house all that much. I knew growing up I went through so much shame it was almost like I had to get smart to get the hell out of that situation. I manage to graduate high school, then college with 2 degrees, blah, blah blah! Point is parasites on medicaid and the system in general have opprotunity, they just have to be willing to put in the time, effort, and quit being so damn LAZY! Quit having the sense of entitlement, because no one owes them nothing. Just because their situation is bad; get over it. Get off the damn system and start paying back in to the system in the form of being a taxpayer. Their are programs for college that ANYONE can qualify for! And for those who don’t have it upstairs; maybe just not quite college material, well just hard knuckle busting work will provide similar success! And for those who are not able to do either of those, then those are the people who derserve to be on the system. Because , for them life is apparently hard enough and they deserve it! So just don’t tell me that alot of those parasites that are on the system need to be, because if anyone thinks that then they are the ignorant ones! And as far as me doing something about it I have I voted for the politicians who I feel closest represents my views! I voted in my complaints I didn’t just sit back and complain. Hell, I even wrote letters to my congress to boot!
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what part of ‘satirical’ do you not get?
Meanwhile on the news, Pharmaceutial Pfraud Pfizer Pfined. About $2.5 billion baby! for illegal marketing practices and pushing doctors or hospitals to give out prescriptions to patients whom didn’t need their designer name drugs. Talk about an ailing health care system, while it isn’t free. +
That has got to be the weakest point yet. So Pfizer got fined for illegal marketing and they paid a proce for it! So who would pay a price for malpractice and those sort of things. With government healthcare when or if you read the legislation you will see that the government cannot be sued. So in other words at least those who were ripped by pfizer will be compensated. When the government controls the healthcare system you and I will not have that same ability! And on different areas of messed up government; the Pfizer story is a drop on the bucket compared to the messed up politicians and their escapades! Let me know if you would like a laundry list of the bad programs that either failed, never took off, ripped people off, etc… I don’t read anything from you about those programs. I am guessing for a few reasons either you don’t no anything and only know what you seen on today’s MSNBC network. You know that the government has taking more money for the people than any part of the capitalist country ever has or ever will. I go really go on and on, but the best you could do is Pfizer get sued. Now everybody nows where all the money went. AIG, GM, WELLS, and literally hundreds of other business had nothing to do with $100’s (Hundreds) of billions of dollars the tax payers lost. So how is government suppose to create a sucessful healthcare program when all these others could never come off the ground themselves and these issues are just a fraction of what problems their would be if you try to insure for free 47 million more people! I didn’t proof read what I wrote so excuse anything thats a little off! Good luck to you
If this whole socialized healthcare thing passes…
it’s only making the government that much bigger and powerful.
The only way that the medical staff would get paid is through government funding.
where else would it come from?
so doctors would start getting paid less,
and eventually people will not even want to go into the medical fields.
well… I wouldn’t anyways.
I mean…
If you attended school all of those extra years,
and worked that hard just to get a position to be paid middle to lower-middle class wages, would you?
It really isn’t about class warfare.
It’s about hard work and reaping the benefits.
Will you be able to advance in social class if you really trully want to?
I’m asking.
Let’s face it. Americans do not want to provide anything to anyone if they think the recipient did not earn it. And in most cases, I tend to agree….
BUT…
In healthcare, you cannot separate sickness from the healthy like you do with race, or nationality, or gender. If you are rich, you can still get a sickness from someone who is poor…..Sickness knows no borders….
It is kind of stupid for people who have healthcare to argue against giving healthcare to others. In the end, diseases and viruses like H1N1 will kill more people because we did not provide healthcare to the uninsured. These same uninsured are walking among us ‘insured’, and guess what? If they cough your way, you are going to be just as sick as they are.
the only difference is that you will die in a nice hospital bed and leave a big bill for your family to pay, while the uninsured will be taken to the emergency room where they will get free care anyway and you, the insured, will have to cover the costs….
It is what it is.
Im a teacher, at a largely poor high school. I have also worked at our local unemployment offices. I know a lot of people who are abusing the system. Our government has made it perfectly acceptable for one group of people to wake up and bust their ass while the other group is allowed to sit at home, smoke and reproduce all to the tune of Jerry Springer, and a system.
Do you think its not racial? really? Well I know FOR A FACT that there is a race that thinks its FUNNY, that you have to work and they don’t. Unless you hear what they say and watch how they behave, then you don’t have a leg to stand on. Am i generalizing? yes…I am profiling and marginalizing. fine. who cares. cops profile. you do it to. its a defense mechanism. your brain has to make little mental notes along the way so to prepare against potential harm. Do i say things in public or even make life decisions based on this notion? no…. I stand up for myself more than the average person to preserve what I know is good.
I have health insurance. BUT I still have pretty large medical bills. I pay for my insurance; it doesn’t come out of thin air. So I pay twice to stay healthy…and then I pay for everyone to stay healthy. Fine. I make healthy decisions as to stay out of the dr.’s office. I am 30 and still practice ways to not bring a child into this world because I am not married. I, like many others, have a culture and lifestyle that benefits society. Some have a culture and lifestyle that at every step along the way puts a negative grip on the once thriving America of our parents. When it was a negative thing to suck away at our countries tax revenue. That money that we put to taxes should be for us. We should get better roads and technologies. We should get more after school programs, and pay teachers more accordingly. We should be able to use that money for growth! We are not able to. We use that money to pay for lazy people who constantly harm themselves. Some of these insanely obese people go to the doctor for a quick fix, just so that they can go home and make an eight course meal…because yesterday was the first and mama got us a freezer full of meat. You know what I eat….grains, small meat portion, and vegetables that I grew…in a garden that I WORKED on. Matter of fact, hows about we make it a requirement that everyone on unemployment that “can’t find a job” yah right, after a month of this bs, they have to do government work, like clean the trash out of the ditches…paint old ladies houses, fix swings at parks, clear trails at parks, take pound dogs for walks, clean windows of municipal buildings. Everyone who gets free food should have to make a garden. we could have city officials…like the cops that apparently don’t see what I see, Since these cops can’t stop these people from all of the crimes they are committing, then maybe they can at least be put on garden patrol. Americans are pansies. Everyones afraid to say the truth…the obvious plain in your damn face truth. Everyone wants to tip toe…….because they are afraid. Afraid to offend? put that fear behind you, and stand up. when someone cusses at their kids in the grocery store say something. I do. When you c something you don’t think is right do something. voting, petition signing, and conversations with freinds and people you know. Oh…and you know what really grinds my gears…these are the same kids that refuse to say the pledge in the morning…even worse- I’m not allowed to put them over my knee! Pansies!
louiecoolgato, I agree with you on a couple of issues. 1) Sickness knows no borders 2) It is stupid for people with healthcare to argue against giving healthcare to others
I disagree with you that Americans do not want to provide anything to people if they think they didn’t earn it. Not true. Americans, statistically are a very giving nation. According to an article in USAToday, “About 65% of households with incomes less than $100,000 give to charity, the report showed.” “Donors contributed an estimated $295.02 billion in 2006, a 1% increase when adjusted for inflation, up from $283.05 billion in 2005. Excluding donations for disaster relief, the total rose 3.2%, inflation-adjusted, according to an annual report released Monday by the Giving USA Foundation at Indiana University’s Center on Philanthropy.”
“Giving historically tracks the health of the overall economy, with the rise amounting to about one-third the rise in the stock market, according to Giving USA. Last year was right on target, with a 3.2% rise as stocks rose more than 10% on an inflation-adjusted basis.”
Now considering our current economy, I am sure many people are not giving or giving as much. The new numbers aren’t out yet. In any event, this disputes your call that Americans don’t want to “provide anything to people that don’t earn it”. It appears by the numbers that Americans understand people that can be down on their luck and need a leg up. What Americans don’t like is to be taken for suckers. They don’t want to pay for someone else’s heath care if they are employable and jobs are available. When the President and others spout their 47M people without health care number they are omitting an important fact. “The Census Bureau says that there are only 35.92 million uninsured Americans and that this number includes 9.1 million people who earn more than $75,000 a year and simply choose not to purchase insurance”
“But Obama’s claim of 47 million uninsured is not supported by the Census Bureau report, “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2007,” which was published in August 2008 and is the government’s most up-to-date official report on the number of uninsured in the United States.”
“This Census report says that within the borders of the United States as of 2007 there were 45.65 people without health insurance. But this number, according to the Census Bureau, included 9.73 million foreigners, leaving only 35.92 Americans who were uninsured.”
The Census Bureau also said that the number of uninsured people was declining. Both the percentage and number of people without health insurance decreased in 2007, said the Census Bureau report.”
“Among the uninsured in the United States, the Census Bureau said, there were also 9.1 million people making more than $75,000 per year who did not choose to purchase health insurance.”
If the government wants more people on board with health care reform, they have to prove that THEY are willing to make sacrifices too and that means tort reform. Tort reform will mean less in the way of campaign donations. Too bad. Let the government take in the wallet along with us.But they won’t because half or more of them are – guess what? Lawyers! And guess what tort reform does? Cuts in on settlements and judgements that dictate a lawyers salary (usually the 1/3 off the top) Insurance companies need regulation and policies should travel across borders and jobs. They will not like that regulation and as a result will probably give less in campaign donations. Again, too bad. Now, go to opensecrets.org and check out 2008 and 2010 donations and see who is getting what from whom.
Americans do not want to see people sick, especially not children. But many Americans feel that a government that cannot keep track of $5,000 VISA cards that FEMA gave out after Katrina, or a government that gave stimulus money and didn’t put requirements on how it was spent, or a government that gave cash for clunkers didn’t get the money to the dealerships fast enough (and made no stipulations that at least a certain percentage of the vehicle had to be either made in America by Americans, used a %age of American made parts). Been to an IRS office lately? I have. A living train wreck. How can we trust this government to handle health care options for 330M people when they can’t “govern” themselves? They need to come up with a better solution, then people will get on board.
Anyone who has had an idea and then realized it knows that changes had to be made along the way. So it is with health care. Wonderful as we are, our health care system needs work.
We’ve got 40M people without coverage, and it isn’t because they’re all dumb and lazy. Most of us who do have coverage know that we often can’t see practitioners who aren’t ‘partners’ with our insurer. Many of us have experienced counterproductive plans that don’t cover well-baby care or other seemingly basic items. Those of us who’ve had a catastrophic health event in their family are likely to have discovered that so-called ‘death panels’ are already in force, only instead of telling you outright they put your claim on ‘review’ and stonewall you until you give up or go to court. And as for bureaucratic nightmares, how many have gone around and around in conference calls with insurer and provider ironing out a problem only to have it surface again with the next statement?
We pay more than any other nation for our health care, yet we’re way down the list in terms of what we get for it. Something needs to be done. What do we do? Besides poke each other in the eye and call each other names, that is?
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marymoderate, I tend to agree with most of what you’ve written, but there is one glaring fact that no one wants to face up to:
If we do nothing with healthcare, we all will be paying so much more than we are paying now (it is projected that healthcare will take up almost 90% of the GDP within 20 years if we do not change the way healthcare is dispensed right now).
Obama is at least offering some kind of basic change, whereas the republicans and blue dog democrats are not offering nothing but opposition and no solutions. Rich people (members of congress, insurance companies, doctors, etc) can argue against the status quo because they can afford to keep things the way they are; as for the rest of us (majority of americans), we cannot afford no change, but unfortunately the majority of americans who are against Obama’s proposals are the very people who will suffer the most if no change occurs.
It is what it is.
hard work and reaping the benefits have nothing to do with being stricken with a sickness, or an accident, or disease which you did not expect and do not have the funds to afford the treatment.
What good is all your schooling, working extra hours, and saving every chance you get if you become stricken with something that will wipe out everything you worked for because you have to pay for the drugs and/or treatment out of pocket?
When someone is sick, the last things on their minds is thinking about social class and big government.
It is what it is.
I agree that something needs to be done. No denying it. But why take the path of most resistance? Take the path of least resistance first and start doing things that will make a difference along the path to reform. That is what GOP is saying. If Obama is going after Medicare fraud as a way to get the money he needs, why not do that first and anyway? Why hasn’t it been done before now (not blaming Obama, just asking)? Go after the fraud first so it is gone long before another system goes into place. I think we can find a middle ground if the far left and the far right will put down their hatchets and let the moderates on both teams lead the way.
In the words of San Francisco mayor Gaven Newsom on gay marriage “Whatever you like it or not…it’s here to stay”. The USA will have at least a “public option” on an expanded health care system, but the fate rests this weekend by 6 senators in a special committee to approve (or not) the proposal. There’s no evidence of death panels, freebies for non-citizens (illegal immigrants) or no free choice of doctor, plus the programs will cost alot less than the war in Iraq. +
The GOP said straight up that they will not sign onto ANYTHING that Obama proposes. Period.
Obama has tried several times to reach out to the GOP but they slapped his hand away every single time (voting 95% of the time to all of his proposals). Obama has told the GOP that he will not try any of their ideas from the past 8 years (under Bush) because they’ve all failed.
There is no middle ground with the GOP, so I am glad that Obama is going for the jugular (taking the path of most resistance, as you put it). Why do it piecemeal with the GOP (with no guarantees that they will ever sign on) when you can just go for it all and let the pieces fall where they may?
If Obama has reached out, it is in a backhanded way. He has control of Pelosi. He just has to tell her, Nancy, shut up. And as for your comment that he told the GOP that he will not try any of their ideas from the past 8 years, then he lied again. Because last night he said on national TV that the Bush administration idea to try out a Bush admin idea, and I quote : “Now, finally, many in this chamber — particularly on the Republican side of the aisle — have long insisted that reforming our medical malpractice laws can help bring down the cost of health care. (Applause.) Now — there you go. There you go. Now, I don’t believe malpractice reform is a silver bullet, but I’ve talked to enough doctors to know that defensive medicine may be contributing to unnecessary costs. (Applause.) So I’m proposing that we move forward on a range of ideas about how to put patient safety first and let doctors focus on practicing medicine. (Applause.) I know that the Bush administration considered authorizing demonstration projects in individual states to test these ideas. I think it’s a good idea, and I’m directing my Secretary of Health and Human Services to move forward on this initiative today. (Applause.) ”
If you are glad he is going for the jugular then all of the fair discourse that you and I had here, which sets the example that two sides can discuss, is worthless and just proves that it’s not just the GOP that is behaving in a stubborn manner. I don’t want the pieces to fall where they may, THIS IS MY LIFE. I don’t do that with my life. You can do it with yours.
marymoderate, I will simplify this picture for you. The healthcare system that we have now is the Titanic. The Titanic is DEFINITELY going to hit an iceberg and sink, just as our healthcare system will do (The same Congressional Budget Office that republicans seem to love to quote from…that Obama’s healthcare plan will cost a trillion dollars in 10 years ALSO SAID that if the healthcare system is not changed, it will BANKRUPT the country within those same 10 years).
You are worried about your life and at the same time talking about medical costs. Well tell me when does anyone who is sick is going to worry about costs when their lives are at stake? Obama is trying to make the system accessible for all, but the people with healthcare are worried about opening the system to all because they think they will lose out in benefits in some way.
The GOP is playing on this fear (and it is working because you are scared and you don’t even know what you’re scared of…is it medical costs? Is it access? is it malpractice suits?…is it Nancy Pelosi?
Don’t miss the forest for the trees marymoderate. Pelosi is doing what ALL majority whips do, whether republican or democratic…they throw their weight around. The GOP is NOT the friend of everyday americans: they are the friend of the businesses and the wealthy. If you do not believe me then ask yourself how did the economy get into this mess (under the Bush Admin and republican majority).
Listening to the GOP on healthcare is like listening to people who yell fire in a movie house, and during the panic they steal the place blind. Re-read what you wrote on what Obama said and then go back and compare it to what the GOP is saying. The GOP is re-directing you off of the real issue: Access to healthcare for all citizens will make us a healthier nation, with less costs due to prevention instead of paying so much for cure. A pound of prevention is worth more than 10 pounds of cure.
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Hey Louie, I don’t know how old YOU are. But I am the sandwich generation. Just finished putting our kid through 4 years of undergrad AND am sweating out my 92 year old mom and her finances. I am not missing the forest for the trees. I am living day to day with this right now. As for how this got to be such a mess, ask your Democratic friend Barney Frank. And his take on Fannie May and Freddie Mac. Bush’s BIGGEST mistake was trusting Barney when he said – Fannie, Freddie NO PROBLEM. Because it was BIG PROBLEM. Also, I do believe it was Jimmie Carter that started all of this crap with his program to allow people to take out a loan for a home when they didn’t qualify. Stop the blindness louie. Bush was an idiot I agree. BUT Carter, Clinton and other Dems were all on board for buying houses for people that had absolutely no way to qualify for the loans.
My question to you mary is this: Do you have health insurance right now?
If you do not: then you are foolish to argue about healthcare because Obama is trying to provide healthcare for you.
If you do have healthcare: then why are you worried about what Obama is doing with healthcare? He said that his plan does not affect people who are satisfied with their present healthcare plans
And by the way, I am not a fan of Frank or Pelosi. And I do not know where you get your information from…Bush trusting Frank??!! Where did you get that bull*** from? That’s like me saying that conservative republicans love Bill Clinton and worked with him during his administration.
Bush and his people knew that Fannie and Freddie were in trouble and they came to Frank for a GOVERNMENT BAILOUT. That means that the Bush people screwed up and they needed government money to hide their mess up.
I know enough about you mary to repeat what i said before: you don’t even know what you are scared of. Listening to those fools on Fox and not paying attention to what Obama is saying is clouding your thinking. A person in YOUR position should be extremely happy that there’s a president who is actually trying to do something for people like you.
I do have health insurance, through an employer. And that is what concerns me. Obama is being disingenuous when he says his current plan is not going to affect people that currently have health insurance. He knows this too. This is a little “loophole” kind of thing. The Obama plan would force employers to offer a specific level of health benefits to their employees or pay a tax to finance a national health program. Currently, the amount of provided health benefits and the size of the tax have not been specifically discussed. So, many employers may just bite the bullet and pay the tax instead of providing health care. Then there is no choice for people like me but to take Obamacare whether I want it or not. I am not stupid enough to think that nothing will happen to my coverage IF the company gets some governmental arm twisting. Please. Also about Bush “trusting” Frank. Poor choice of words. But, if there is another word for letting what Frank said stand without taking him on, please let me know what it is. People made decisions based on what Frank said. Too bad they can’t sue him for fraud and deceptive practices. Also go read factcheck.org about who caused the bubble. Bush is on the LIST of many. But if you want to go in timeline order, Clinton was there first. Also according to factcheck “It’s true that key Democrats opposed the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, which would have established a single, independent regulatory body with jurisdiction over Fannie and Freddie – a move that the Government Accountability Office had recommended in a 2004 report. Current House Banking Committee chairman Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts opposed legislation to reorganize oversight in 2000 (when Clinton was still president), 2003 and 2004, saying of the 2000 legislation that concern about Fannie and Freddie was “overblown.” Just last summer, Senate Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd called a Bush proposal for an independent agency to regulate the two entities “ill-advised.” http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/who_caused_the_economic_crisis.html
And you louie have taken this to a new level. I am afraid you DON”T know me. First I am not afraid of anything. I am concerned for this country. That is not fear. Second, how presumptuous of you for saying “listening to those fools on Fox”. Where do you get your information? MSNBC? I read alot louie, I spend a lot of time on the internet and I gather my information from many sources and I try to make sure that those sources do not have an investment on either side. As for Obama trying to do something for me? I do not think there is one President that has tried to do anything for ME personally. They are all worried about their legacy. He wants to be the “Health Care President”. They are all a bunch of phony politicians.
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mary says: “And you louie have taken this to a new level. I am afraid you DON”T know me. First I am not afraid of anything…”
Well mary, i can say the same to you. Why did you assume that I was a Frank supporter (and i quote you, “As for how this got to be such a mess, ask your Democratic friend Barney Frank.”)?
Second point: You are an employee, not the employer, so you do not know what your employer will do with your healthcare. Remember, everything you suggest that Obama will force the healthcare providers—the healthcare providers can do WITHOUT Obama’s input. Even if Obama’s plan don’t pass, guess what? your healthcare provider can go on do the changes you fear will occur.
Third point: you are exhibiting an unwarranted fear mary. You said, “Then there is no choice for people like me but to take Obamacare whether I want it or not.” This is not true. If you have healthcare already, Obama’s plan will not affect you at all. His plan is about choice.
Fourth point: Why are you lumping Frank and those issues in with healthcare? All the legislation that you are talking about was when the Republicans were in the majority (pre-2006), so it was guilt on both sides, but more so with the republicans because they controlled congress. The collapse of the banking system has little to do with healthcare.
Final point: You are correct that i do not know you, but I can come to conclusions from what you’ve written. Unlike you and most people who talk about healthcare, I don’t watch TV (don’t have one), plus I’ve been blessed to live in Washington DC…less than a mile from Capital Hill…I have access to information that i can read for myself. You are correct that Obama is trying to be a Health Care president. But my question to you is this: Isn’t Healthcare the most important issue for all americans. We all will get sick one day. Depending on our economic position, our sickness could bankrupt many of us. This is unfair and not right. No one chooses to be sick. When you talk about healthcare as if it’s a commodity, you are saying that some people are more worthy of having access to a healthy life than others. I have problems with people like you who think of Obama as ‘just a politician.’ He could have picked easier issues to make his legacy, but he chose an issue which will help all americans. I think that americans should give him a chance. Afterall, he’s been in office for only seven months.
It is pretty sad that you
Excuse me folks. I don’t know what the fuck i’m talking about. I’m a asshole blowhard who talks lots of shit like this.+
Your a very sick person…
Too funny and Too true. Socialized Medicine–It’s a hopey changey thing.
Right on, bro! I am with you.
Ouch!! Love it!!
That we’re the last ones to get so open-minded our brains fall out? That were the last ones to screw ourselves? The final frontier of applied humanistic nonsense?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Here’s another thing white people love to do: assume anybody suffering any type of hardship and not living a happy-go-lucky successful life must be RESCUED by the government. Justify that. Life is hard. Handle it.
The author is hilarious, but this is a timely, relevant issue. And I venture a guess from his humor that he’s not liberal….
My friend Donna lives in Australia. She and her husband are natives. She was writing me a few years back telling me all the schemes they had going to avoid the OUTRAGEOUSLY high taxes their govt took from them. I don’t know the rate, but they were suffering.
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10 trillion dollar debt comes to mind. a little something for our children….for generations to come.
Hey, I’m white, and I hate universal healthcare…it’s probably the sliver of apache in me talking though. I do love rare beer and Wes Anderson films.
The argument that the salary doctors in a country where healthcare is socialized make would be so low that the profession itself becomes unattractive has no truth in it at all.
I am currently trying to get into a university to study medicine (in “socialistic Sweden”) and even though our healthcare is socialized, free for everyone and the doctors have lower salaries (if you think that 100.000-150.000$/year is “lower-middle class”) it’s still almost impossible for me to get into a school. The funny thing is that I have straight A’s but the doctor’s profession is still something so desirable that it’s only 1/10 of all the applicants that actually get into the schools, and most of the applicants have straight A’s like me.
Socialized blowing people up in the Middle East is fine though.
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Yeah thanks for helping to dismantle Canadian Health Care that actually most of us less fortunate really do (no rich joke) appreciate.
Funny post! Having been to Canada and Sweden it is impressive. However, as a writer for StuffRichPeopleLove.com I know that rich people don’t care about free healthcare, white or not. They have private nurses to look after them, if you know what I mean 😉
Maybe you should change careers or at least teach in a predominantly white, posh suburban neighborhood. Those people are likely to lead the life you approve of and with only one culture to share, you won’t be required to open your mind.
This message is for “louiecoolgato” and “mary moderate”. I did not read your posts word for word… just skimmed the main points. I just wanted to let you know how refreshing it was to read both of your posts. Both of you appear to have presented intelligent commentary and the entire communication seemed to maintain a respectful tone. I have tried to express my views on other subjects on this site and have been personally ridiculed or verbally attacked. I think people forget that there are real humans behind these typed words. I think we should all feel comfortable to express our opinions without fear of backlash.
My grandfather was suspected to have fast-spreading cancer and he had to wait 2 weeks for his next check up before his doctor would confirm it. And then wait another week or so for more tests. And then wait more than a week for the results of the test.
It’s like watching whether this cancer would kill him first or the Canadian health system.
‘Free’ means you don’t pay when you get into a hospital, but years and years beforehand and after.
I live in Europe. It is presently around 28% of my gross salary. Surely, because so many in this country are ‘freelancing’…
I could sign up to a private clinique for less, but I have to pay this anyway.
And yes, endless waiting-lists, grumpy, state-paid doctors and frustrated nurses.
Fight for it and enjoy!
If health care turns into anything like the DMV or the post office, I’m just going to off myself now and get it over with.
Yeah, the people who run this website are entirely right wing guys mocking left wingers.
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wow, there are so many messed up things about that rant.
you must have had some bad things happen to you to feel so bitter about fellow human beings. not everyone has the advantages in their lives to succeed financially…what about new immigrants? there are reasons people struggle, be it the language barrier, illness, prejudice etc.
i’m proud to live in a country where people who did not have the advantages i have had in my life, get a equal healthcare and a leg up with social programs.
why don’t you volunteer at a homeless shelter and then maybe you’ll understand? these people are not lazy, they’ve had a rough life or significnt disadvantages to overcome. and some of them today are like you, only they lost everything in the financial crash.
Ask any of the libtards promoting the Idiot Messiah’s plan to provide health care for all how much they’ve donated to charities that do exactly what they pretend to want. Then you’ll realize that they were actually planning to realize their socialist wet dream using other people’s money.
You bet I am banking on using other people’s money. I’m a poor recent college grad with practically not enough money to eat. I have a 40 hr/wk job waiting tables at a restaurant where I am offered no benefits.
I guarantee I work harder for my meager money than some rich prick who just made 2 million dollars during the time that it took me to write this reply. And how do you suppose he made that money? Probably by exploiting someone like me with low wages and no benefits.
So yes, he is going to pay, and so are you, you hater a**hole. I’ll be thinking of you when I go to the doctor for free.
Most of the money you are going to be spending will be comming off my legitimate kids plates. I certainly can’t think of a better use for it.
It can’t turn into anything else.
The problem with opening your mind as much as you have is the brains tend to fall out.
Think of it as food on your kids plates or health care for degenerates and illegal aliens.
…or, food for the mongrels
…but, still mongrels.
Perhaps it has something to do with the idiotic condescending tone of your liberal beliefs, “yep I said it”, or your own personal attacks that didn’t go unchallenged.
I noticed you didn’t try to defend your ignorant points. You just fled when your point of view was challenged.
yea, those poor white trash mongrel types….too many of’em I tells ya!!
and don’t forget those poor white trash mongrel types….too many of’em I tells ya!!
yeah, us stoopid negroes deserve it because of slaves and shit
Thanks for providing yet another example of publicly educated losers who think others should pay for the poor results of their self-centered, libtarded decisions.
This is all very funny, I had a few good laughs at this one. How about before we get all this socialized medicine crap, we instead talk about tort reform. A lot of the costs of medicine are due to sue-happy american citizens and the fact that doctors must test for that one in a million case. You will always have a glorious amount of tests done on you so the docs can have their asses saved. I’m all for capping the amount an patient can sue for.
I think you overestimate your audience here.
You shoud come to Minnesota. Going to the DMV is a rather pleasant experience (seriously). But I try to have a smile on my face and show my appreciation for the person behind the counter. I think a positive attitude can sometimes make a difference. A sincere compliment never hurts either.
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You guys should just hear yourselves – we’re not talking about anybody taking anything off your plates (or your children’s, for that matter). Everybody should be entitled to healthcare – as we are all entitled to the right to live. It’s not something that should be given depending on your salary, because nobody is protected from smth happening to their health and well-being and we can’t just live in constant fear that one day smth might happen to us and we might need to sell our house b/c the darn insurance companies want to simply make profit out of our misfortune and not pay for what they are responsible to pay. Call this socialist if you like – I think above all political affiliations, we need to remain human.
If you were born with half a brain, you are able to develope and parlay marketable skills in the workplace. Thus bringing home a little scratch, and amazingly enough, some health insurance.
If you are a panty wearing liberal, on the other hand. You seek to be a parasite on the hard work and effort of others. Stealing the very sustenance off the plate of the children I’m busting my ass to provide for.
The “darn” insurance companies are in business to provide a service you and everyone else can aquire for your freakin’ selves. It really peeves me that some parasitic degenerate wants to lecture me on humanity. What the hell do you do for me, to warrant me providing you insurance? Why is your idiotic idea of “humanity” always a one way freakin’ street, straight off my kids plates in your idiotic mouths???
I just can’t stomach the idea that I owe you a living. If your ilk had any “humanity” at all, seeing you cannot possibly choose to provide for yourself, you would do the only honorable thing and starve to death.
Greg, you certainly seem to be a rather disgruntled American. I find that your posts lack discernment and your responses are always animadversional and antagonistic.
My decision to not engage in combatative discourse with you was simply because I decided life is too short. I want to spend it with people who possess primarily placid dispositions.
I’m feeling rather disillusioned that this site, which was meant to provide humorous satire, has become a gathering hole for the exacerbated… Why the fck shoud I care what some guy on the internet, whom I’ve never met, says to me? The obvious answer; I shoudn’t.
Greg, I would encourage you to shut down your computer and spend some time with your family. Your children and you have the privilege of knowing one another; this statement, sadly, is not true for many Amerasians. You and your children have been given the gift of time; don’t squander it.
I love your comment at least somebody said it besides me lol. You are so right it is always a one way street for the “blood sucking governement better gimme my money parasites”! It seems that nothing is taken from those who don’t work for a living, it’s always hands out to the ones who do work. And you always here those liberal types that say we all complain about giving to the poor an so on. It because we are always GIVING to the poor! Why can’t the poor EARN like the rest of us. Hey I’m sure there are alot of us that hate going to our suck jobs or simply tired of the grind, but we do it because we want to live our lifestyle. And parasites my not want to admit it, but a trained monkey can put in more of a effort than they do!
If these degenerate liberal fruitbats put half the effort into working for a freakin’ living, that they do demanding the government give them some more of the food off my kids plates, they would have a house bigger than mine and more to eat too.
How will you be going to the doctor for free? Because if you’re paying any attention to this Obamacare trying to get passed…well, it’s not free my friend. If it passes YOU will be required/forced to have health insurance weather it’s private or government. So if you can’t afford it now what makes you think you will be able to afford it when the government gets involved. Just think of all the things the gov gets their hands on and how corrupt/screwed up they have made things. Medicare, SS, war on drugs, war on terrorist, cars for clunkers, should I go on. I myself can’t afford to be forced to pay for health insurance…being white I have to spend too much money on my lifestyle…ya know.
Does anyone find the phrase “giving back” as offensive as I do? In my opinion people who use this giving back thing are full of themselves, i.e. SHI… If they used the term “contributing” instead, I think as a conservative (that can’t spell) there would be more people out there willing to lend a hand to those who REALLY!!! need it. And maybe we wouldn’t need FREE, LOL, health care. Oh! and anyone in support of paid for by the tax payer health care that uses the word “free” in front of health care needs their lazy ass kicked. The correct term is Socialized Health Care or medicine. If they paid attention in school when learning about the realities socialism they might not be so infavor of it… Q. What comes after Socialism? A. Communism.
Yes, yes I do. I especially hate the government telling me how “we” need to take care of all the illegal aliens, those with degenerate orientations. Like I don’t know they are going steal even more of the food off my kids plates, to do it.
yea, they steal like that white guy Bernie Madoff, or was it Bernie Ebbers?…or Michael Milken?…..damn, those degenerate white guys…
STFU Greggie Boy.
For such an ignorant fuck, you even amaze me at the level of stupidity you can dive too. The Bernies robbed the rich, just like you hope too with obamaocare. Instead hes going to rob every natural born American citizen to subisidize illegals and degenerates like you.
You live in THE one and only land of OPPORTUNITY, you mangy, blood sucking pararsite. Why don’t you wake up to the real world and make something of yourself, besides an ignorant ass on-line?
“Every man’s death diminishes me because I am involved in man-kind.” – John Donne
That’s right. I’m white. I’m well-read. I have two fucking master’s degrees. And I’m a Socialist.
So not only am I smarter than you, I’m more compassionate.
Put that in your conservative pipe and smoke it while you read Ayn Fucking Rand.
I know this is hard for people to understand, but I’ll try to break down nice and simple-like. For the conservatives and Republicans among us, I’ll even try to use small words.
In the United States of America, WE THE PEOPLE are the government. We choose our elected officials. We send them to Washington or to our state capitals, etc, so that they can do the work that none of us can do individually.
But none of this work can be done – whether by Democrats OR Republicans – without MONEY. This money pays for social programs that Republicans jizz in their pants at the thought of gutting. But it also pays for things we all like. Things like the police department, the fire department, the postal service, public education, libraries and the fucking army.
Everybody hates paying taxes. Everybody wants to cut “wasteful” spending…until it involves giving up something they need.
So all you conservatives put your money where your libertarian mouths are: You don’t want to pay taxes? Fine. Put out your own fucking fire when your house burns down. Don’t come crying to me. Deliver your own packages. Get yourself some barbed wire and a pistol and go defend our boarders yourself. Home school your own little brats (you can start by reading them “Atlas Shrugged”). Stop benefiting from the tax dollars of decent, hard working Americans.
Or, alternately, you can grow a brain and understand that taxes aren’t the evil government taking away your hard earned coin and giving it to “illegals and degenerates,” but rather the American people pooling their resources to better ALL of our lives. Sara FUCKING Palin to the contrary, paying taxes IS patriotic.
Yes, Nationalized Health Care would not be “free.” You would pay for it through your tax dollars. But EVERYONE would have access to that care, even when they can’t afford to pay for it. If you have a problem with that, may I politely suggest that you sit and spin.
Illegal aliens have little to do with insurance reform — they are excluded under current bills. If 50 million have no coverage and “illegals” are an excluded 11 million, do the math. But illegal aliens average younger and healthier than us native-borns, and very many have Employer provided insurance now !
Today’s Republicans are the people who can’t do math, have no sense of scale.
chuckle, I love a disgruntled liberal fruitcake. I don’t think anybody minds paying taxes for top tier priorities, like fire, police, the Army. The problem starts to arise when you subsidize degenerate behavior with the money I bust my ass earn.
You want health care, get a freakin’ job, you want to eat, get a freakin’ job, you want a roof over your head, get a freakin’ job. I work for a living to provide for my family and my kids, not yours, you pathetic parasite.
I just love it when a liberal fruitbat thinks they are edumacating someone. When the government decides it can do far better for everybody than people can do for themselves, thats called communism, nutbag. That means nobody has anything, and nobody can get anything more by trying harder.
Now a parasitic degenerate might be ok with that, just the barest of essentials as long as they don’t have to do a damn thing to earn it. Those of us that see every bean stolen off our kids plates, so that your ilk can eat another day, well…… that chaps my ass like nothing else. It would be far better for humanity as a whole to let you starve to death.
I don’t doubt for a minute you would think exactly the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. Being forced to watch food taken off your kids plates, in order to subsidize a bunch of parasitic miscreants that don’t contribute a damn thing to society, yet still believe you OWE them a life.
I think you grossly underestimate pretty much everything. I recently cut part of my finger off, at work. I got carted off to the emergency room.
While there, I heard two different situations with pregnant illegal aliens. How do I know they were pregnant and illegal? The hospital had to provide a freakin’ spanish speaking translator to treat them. That isn’t as uncommon as you liberals would like to think.
What I also think is kinda funny, is when your ilk talk about amnesty, you claim you can’t deport 40-50 million illegal aliens, but when you’re giving them free health care out of my pocket, its only 11 million. Its a well known fact, that liberals make up statistics to enhance their idiotic worldview.
As for exclusion, you better take another look at the bill. Same thing with abortion. Liberals are the only ones crafting the bill, and you can bet the farm, liberals like harry reid and pelosi are going to include illegals and abortion in the final bill.
The problem with liberals is they think some really stupid shit is such a fantastic idea that the cost just doesn’t matter. Judging from Obamao’s cabinet, I can see why. None of them pay their taxes anyway. Those of us that do, really don’t want the government depriving our kids of the life we should be able to afford for them, by subsidizing those that willingly don’t contribute, or illgal aliens.
the only thing i like more than buying my beans with food stamps is thinking of your kids and the food they won’t be eating because of me. food stolen off your kids’ plates really does taste better, greg.
I feel so sorry for you. That mean rich guy provided you with a job. Maybe in your dream world you can go get a job from a poor person who doesn’t pay taxes, and some how owns a business that provides thousands of jobs!
Your funny, you want to use small words for republicans. First of all if I read correctly about the Palin thing. Get over it already is Palin the only thing you left wingers can talk about. Even the right wingers aren’t the in love with her as much as you guys talk about her. Also it was Biden who mentioned the paying taxing is patriotic! Not to mention your comment on republicans saying it’s wasteful spending until it’s something we need. Well if we NEEDED it, it wouldn’t be wasting!The dems are all about their wants. And why not free healthcare; if they don’t have to pay for it, why should we? That’s the attitude those leeches have. I get it that not everybody has money, and not eveybody is broke. But, remember the jobs that are supplied are created by those that are wealthy, not the poor. The higher income people pay the taxes. Poor people even those with lower income do not pay taxes. Those who are lower income think they pay their little state and fed. taxes receive all that back and plus a low income tax check at the beginning of the year. Therefore the pay zero and pluc receive more that what they put in. When do you stop giving the money away and make them EARN it? When do you stop giving healthcare away and make them pay for it? That’s a legit question quit with the bullsh** about republicans, the rich, etc…When does it ever stop? Will it continue to be a open bank account that funds those who don’t want to, and or those who can’t work?
I’m not surprised. Your ilk have no shame. You were probably raised on the dole, and see it as just another “healthy alternative lifestyle choice.”
Your right, your a socialist, you’ve read a few books, and you got feeeeelings. In spite of all that you still aren’t as smart as me.
I know a lot of fruitcakes like you, over edumacated asses, that think there degree enlightens them so much they float on air.
The problem is, you have NO common sense. If you think socialism is the answer, you didn’t understand the question.
speaking of healthy alternative lifestyle choices, i look forward to the day when the government mandates that you share my socialist heroin to celebrate my gay wedding. i’d especially like you there when the interracial orgy breaks out at the reception.
I wouldn’t exactly call this guy liberal….
rock on man!
Just wanted to stick up for free health care, weve had it in England for 60 years, true it still has its problems but its now a national treasure and even the origional opponents of the scheme now back it and would not dream of trying to remove it.
hope your finger’s feeling better, especially since you probably had to wait at an emergency room packed full of folks without insurance, at the emergency room for minor complaints that could be dealt with by a primary care physician or a specialist.
illegal immigrants will be excluded from health care. barring some last minute political generosity by republicans – which we all know is common – illegal immigrants make too easy a target for democrats to stand up and defend them. nobody really knows how many people live and work in this country illegally, but however many there are, there are just as many or more apple pie eating full US citizens who can’t afford health care.
calling them degenerates is an easy tactic – particularly when degenerates just ends up meaning anyone outside the cultural sphere of the mythologized white american middle class that republicans like to beat off to.
the fact is, the broken health care system that we are forced to rely on by politically powerful and oppressive lobbies is broken for everyone, not only the uninsured. without universal health care – not free, by any means – we’ll all end up sick, bankrupt, and dependent on corporations who routinely screw us – the country and individuals – to make a few dollars more on their quarterly reports.
Thats because, the same douchebags that gave you the ‘free healthcare’ would be making up the alternative. It doesn’t take a great deal of common sense to look at whats bankrupting Europe. Or why you can’t defend yourselves and depend on America to keep you safe in your beds at night. Yet still keep you free enough to be ingrates about it.
Thats right, ‘free healthcare’ and a world class welfare system.
Spoken like a true socialist. You are able to paint a rosy picture without ever letting reality interefere in your masturbatory fantasy.
First off, I cut the end off my finger with a skillsaw at work. That made it a workers comp. issue. You have to have a job to get that.
I find it amusing that you sit here and act like illegal immigrants aren’t included in the bill. Have you been watching any of the coverage of it? Most dems in both houses of congress are wetting their pants vowing illegals will be covered as well as abortion.
You sound like your edumacation has enlightened you so much you’ve floated away from reality. In the rainbow sanctuary state I live in, I can give you hundreds of specific examples of many degenerates as well as illegals entirely subisdized with the food off my kids plates.
During the clintoon/gore fiasco I used to live in an apartment, in a large complex. The ratio of hud apartments to regular rent payers was about 4 or 5 to one, now its %100. Why? because HUD pays more for the apartments than they can charge for rent. Now the state insists the human garbage those places attract belong in every neighborhood. Drugs and crime are basically subsidized with my tax payer dollars, merely to sastify the masturbatory fantasy of liberals entitlement mentality.
Lastly the healthcare system isn’t broken! I know liberals looove to claim that it is. We have the best healthcare system in the world, bar none. Tort reform would do more for perfecting it than anything liberals will ever pull out of their collective asses.
The sole reason for the healthcare nonsense liberals are spouting now, is simply another goverment power grab. If you think you are being routinely screwed by ‘corporations’, just wait til you vote for the government to be the one to do the screwing.
Did you learn NO history in college? NO current events? Socialism/communism has never worked anywhere its ever been tried, and it never will. You cannot force people to accept the unconscienable without murdering millions. See Stalin, Pol Pot, Moa, anybody else that tried that ideological idiocy anywhere.
You know what is really sad? Education used to mean something. Now, all it means is you don’t have any common sense, are compeletly disconnected from the real world, yet still truly believe you are smart.
Greg
You post makes me sad, I must say. First, anybody who throws the word “Libral” as an insult does so to compensate for not having anything intelligent to say.
Healthcare is an immensly complex business, and to distill this reform down to “socialist” would be silly if the matter were not so serious. I’m not expecting you to change your mind due to logic or facts, because it doesn’t seem to be about that for you, but here’s some;
The coverage illegal immigrants would recieve under the House bill would be the same they have recieved for 15 years. Emergency rooms are obligated under the COBRA laws to treat and stabilize any person who comes in, it is illegal to deny service. Its been this way for quite some time, which is why most of us in the healthcare industy find that argument puzzling
We by no means have the “best healthcare” in the world. In 2009 the US had the 25th highest life expectancy in the world (77.1 years) while also spending $4,500 per capita (conservative figure). Japan has the highest life expecatancy (81.5 years) and spends less than half of that amount (roughly $2000) Cuba (damn commies!) has an average LE of 76.9 years and spends less than $200 per capita.
If your the type who learns visually;
Making the average cost of healthcare prohibitive only leave more people out of the system. When they get injured or require medical attention this cost is distributed to those of us with insureance, raising the costs at a compounded rate every year.
By expanding coverage and incentivising healthcare organizations to work more efficiently we can simultaneously decrease prices, increase revenue, and include millions of people
I do believe the US is founded upon some of the loftiest ideals humanity has ever seen, why do you think this is impossible for us?
guess the difference between exchanging insults and debating issues just went out the window. i shouldn’t be surprised, conservatives always go ad hominem to distract from how blatantly they make up their information.
illegal immigrants would not receive coverage under the legislation currently being debated. from http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/09/health.care.differences/ – “Both bills [house and senate] ban any government funds or subsidies from going to help illegal immigrants get health care.” illegal immigrants could buy – with their own money, no food from your kids’ table – private health insurance.
moreover, focusing on undocumented workers is a distraction from the actual issue. the united states, unless you live in a republican wet dream, does not have the best health care system in the world. we have many of the best doctors and institutions, but care involves access to these doctors and institutions, and the system should not have to spend twice as much per capita as the next highest spending country, for an average life expectancy lower than much of the rest of the industrialized world.
whether you like it or not, these costs are a direct result of forcing people – yes, citizens, “degenerate” or otherwise – to rely on emergency services, making the health system less efficient, less practical, and more expensive for everyone. that includes you, since you pay, in money and in time, for every uninsured person who goes to the hospital.
if you trust corporations more than you trust the government, you’re a fool. the government isn’t great, but corporations have an existential obligation to screw you. it’s their obligation to their shareholders, and it’s enshrined in corporate law that they take as much of your money as possible and give as little of it back as they can manage.
it’s easy and convenient to paint health care as a conflict between average hard-working americans and a feverish specter of tyrannical government, but the fact remains that ordinary americans are taken advantage of every day by power-hungry, exploitative companies, and we owe ourselves and our fellow citizens better than that.
You sir are what I think most would refer to as a fucktard.
OMG Greg, you actually came to the conclusion the young ladies mentioned in your post were illegal aliens because they required a Spanish translator? Wow, that lack of reasoning really takes the cake!
Thanks for letting me know that I live in the one and only land of opportunity Greggie boy, so let me take the opportunity to tell you to
SHUT THA FUCK UP, YA STUPID TEXAN COUNTRIFIED, HORSE FUCKING ASSWIPE.
God, I love this country.
If you were injured in Canada, and you were a tourist without travel medical insurance, you would have to pay out your nose for treatment.
If you have to discuss anything with a liberal, it isn’t going to be an intelligence based conversation, they aren’t equipped for it.
I just love it when liberal fruitbats make up statistics and use completely unrelated data to illustrate another ridiculouse point they don’t really have a grasp of.
Your ilks life expectancy stat’s are exactly the kind of thing that make you look even more ridiculouse.
Those other countries ‘lifestyle choices’ don’t have any bearing at all, in your mind. I have actually lived in some of those countries. My wife is Japanese. The reason Japanese live longer has nothing at all to do with a socialist healthcare system. Don’t let that stop you from pretending that it does though.
Completely ignore the fact that as Americans we are sue happy, and continue to demand congress do nothing about tort reform and you can guarantee, fewer people wanting to enter the proffession, more people throwing in the towel because of prohibitively high malpractice insurance rates, and higher costs because of the shortage.
Anytime you create another entitlement program you further enslave people, and make them less and less likely to do for themselves. Liberals demand somebody always do for them so they don’t have to do a damn thing for themselves. The democrat party eager for thier support will promise them all the food on my kids plates in order to get their vote.
As a former small business man, I had to throw in the towel because of over regulation, too high taxes, and a sanctuary state policy that took away my ability to compete. As a liberal I don’t expect you to understand how ignorant liberal policies really are.
While your check may have a U.S. Government stamp on it, most people’s don’t. In order for you to get that check, the U.S. Government takes almost double out of mine. I know you think all money comes from the government, but all the governments money comes from me and people like me. People that earn it.
Every entitlement program you and your ilk benefit from comes right off the plates of my children. If you are not insulted by BEING a liberal, you my leftwingnut friend are the one that isn’t very intelligent.
You are such a dumbass, don’t you have some homework to finish dipshit. I overheard their entire conversation you ignorant fuck, rather than repeat it verbatim, I summarised. Only a liberal could be as completely obtuse as you are. I not only have to spell it out, and draw a picture, I also have to translate it for you, because you are too fucking stupid to see reality.
I don’t accept your world view either. As a former small business owner, your view of corporate America is not even close to reality. Sure they make a product that you can either buy or not, its your choice. Yes they make it in order to make a profit. This requires them to hire people to do it, to sell it, to deliver it to market. You buy it because it improves your life, or you want it, or want what it can do for you, or not.
The government doesn’t give you that choice. You give it the power to take away everything you have, hoping its going to take care of you. Communism reduces everyone to the lowest common denominator.
Phony statistics like you use to compare industrialized nations are a good propaganda ploy for like minded people. Those of us that have actually been to many of those countries, know the realities are not even close to what you pretend they are.
Nor will your fantasy of them turn out the way you imagine. You people never ever even consider the consequences or the costs associated with your pipe dreams. You focus entirely on what you ‘IMAGINE’ is going to happen. The reality of which isn’t going to be anywhere near what you think you want. The costs and consequences are so prohibitive that if you bothered to even consider them you would call your congressman now and demand they get off the band wagon.
Exceptional job completely bypassing any points and again going strait for insults.
Were in your reasoning do you assume that me and “my ilk” don’t have a job? I’m very well employed, in the medical field no less – just because somebody disagrees with you doesn’t mean they are unemployed.
And go forbid you ever lose your job, not seeming to have the intelligence to exist in an adaptive market, you might even need some government aid sometime yourself *gasp*
To say that the Japanese longevity has nothing to do with socialized healthcare is again, just being simple.
Let me see if I can explain this so even you might get it:
The Japanese health system is structured as such to make Internal Medicine, Family Practice, and General Practice the most lucrative medical specialties in the country. This is achieved through rienbursting at a higher rate for preventative medicine and regular attention to smaller medical problems. This creates a much larger % of physicians entering these fields.
Out health system is structured to make sub-specialties that generally focus on the wealthier portion of the population like cardiothorasic surgery, plastic surgery, dermatology, anesthesiology, or gastrology. This is because of higher reinburstment rates from HMOs and “golden plan” customers. This leads to fewer primary health doctors and a focus on the much more expensive “post-hoc” treatment rather than preventative treatment.
“If you have to discuss anything with a liberal, it isn’t going to be an intelligence based conversation, they aren’t equipped for it.”
It must be easy to maintain irrational beliefs if you have already justified not having to listen to anybody elses. By the way, I’m a registered independent, and if any Republicans were anything but party hacks lately I’d vote for them. So using “liberal” like an insult 6 times (literally) only tells me you should buy a thesaurus.
You know Greg, as much as you call everybody else here either a “fruitcake” or a degenerate moron, I can’t help but notice reading down the posts that you’re the only one using profanity all over the place
I think its particularly hilarious given the point of this post here was to degrade somebody else’s age and intelligence – that comes across much more effectively if you can come up with something to connect you words besides “dumbass, dipshit, and fucking” for one little paragraph.
I’m suprised you have a job (or so you say)
I guess it doesn’t require communication skills?
Greg, you are weird.
I just love fruitbats that call themselves “independents”. All that really means is you don’t have the backbone to choose a side. The offence you take at how obviously ignorant liberals and liberal beliefs are, speak loudly of which way you lean.
I also really enjoy your pretentious and pompous claims at intelligence with your perspective on healthcare. Few things are more amusing than liberals doing their best to defend the indefensible. Whether its sexual orientational nonsense, abortion not being murder, perpetuating a global warming myth, or pretending their views on socialized medicine has some basis in reality.
Once again you pretend socialized medicine in other countries is better than ours with made up information spread about as if its fact. Your ilk pretend those cultures lifestyle choices are no different from ours. Your ilk further pretend your lifestyle choices aren’t the worst in the world. then you think you can convince me that the rest of the world thinks like you do on healthcare. All the while knowing the rest of the world doesn’t have your ilks problems with degenerate same sex couplings, drug abuse, and illegal aliens.
Why do you think they changed the name of the Mexican flu? The only people that believe the nonsense you’re spreading already subscribe to your degenerate world view. As long as you continue to ignore reality, you have little hope of convincing anybody thats going to make a difference.
I didn’t start out that way my leftwingnut friend. Read back a few pages and you will see the transformation and what and who caused it. See #11
When in Rome……….
Hey Gregg. The surest sign that someone is a conservative nutbar is that you suffer under the delusion that you work harder than everyone else. Most Americans have jobs. Most of those jobs suck. And most of those jobs don’t provide health care or a decent wage. So please take your “I work for a living” speech somewhere else. I work for a living too. So do most liberals. And we would like the economy to keep humming along at a reasonable clip. (You know like it was under Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Clinton and all of those other liberal to moderate heads of state.) Don’t take the fact that you hate your job and your life out on everyone else with your right-wing blathering.
What your no-government-at-all-costs ideology will get us on the health care front is more of the same. Rising prices dictated by the same corporate slime that has been screwing the consumer for over forty years. We work while the insurance executives profit.
But I’m sure that you’ll claim that all of this can be solved with some more free market pixie dust sprinkled on all of our heads by zombie Reagan.
I’ll be looking for answers somewhere else.
Gregg: As I read your comments, I am struck by the lack of evidence you provide for any of your assertions. You seem to be an even more hyperbolic version of right-wing talking points machines like Hannity and Beck. It’s like having a O’Reilly margarita with a slice of Hitler. Very nice.
But that’s enough from me. Arguing with you would be like arguing with a dining room table, as a wonderful Congressman once said. I’m off to do heroin and have anal sex with my illegal immigrant Mexican gay-lover with condoms I bought with my welfare check. Did I mention that he’ll be dressed like Jesus?
corey, greg needs his insults for the same reason austin powers needs a penis pump, even though he likes to claim he’d rather debate issues.
the thing is, all of his points are essentially insults, even when he makes them in long form with made up facts. and like a man in the closet with a trophy beard on his arm, he throws the same accusation at anyone arguing with him, without ever addressing the points they make.
but of course, that’s why he’s so much fun.
better not take your head out from under the blanket, greg – the communists might get you! is crying communism really the best you can come up with?
as a former small business owner, you don’t bear the slightest resemblance to the executives running any major corporation. hopefully – i mean yes, you are a bit of an asshole, but i’m guessing you lack the conviction to be a psychopath – your business wasn’t based on denying medical care to the sick, gouging the old and dying, and sticking a big fat gold plated dick in the ass of the uninsured. or maybe you are that sick, but just not as good at it. either way, you are not in these guys’ league, and siding with them might help your pride, but it won’t help you or the kids you talk so much about if they ever get sicker than your insurance is willing to cover, or you lose your job and get hit by a car on the way home.
you might deserve the world of shit that would come your way at that point, but your kids certainly don’t, and neither do anyone else’s.
this country can afford health insurance for all its citizens, plain and simple. we pay too much for health care, and while tort reform would help a bit, it wouldn’t solve the problem.
doctors, especially primary care physicians and general practitioners, have to deal with 4 or 5 different health insurance bureaucracies, often requiring additional staff and taking time out of providing care. whine about government inefficiency all you want, but health insurers have no incentive to be efficient in disbursing payments to doctors, particularly doctors in private practice.
we pay more for the same treatments as in other countries. private health care encourages it – the more they can convince you to pay, the more money they make.
you say liberals would give government the power to take away everything i have, but you argue for executives who would take not only the food off your kids plates, but the clothes off their backs, the plates off their tables, the house from around them and the land its built on, just to squeeze another dime onto their bottom line. open your eyes.
The great depression was presided over by Roosevelt, it took a world war to get us out of his idiotic economic policies, Eisenhower was a Republican (no brainer there why the economy was better than under truman or roosevelt), clintoons largest tax increase in history gave us a recession douchebag and the first big economic bubble. If it hadn’t been for Ronald Reagans economic policies, George Bush Sr., Newt Gingrich and the Republicans contract with America that gave us welfare reform, and a balanced budget clintoon would have been yet another in a long line of failed democrat presidencies.
The only thing the clintoon/gore fiasco can hold up for a legacy is Monica Lewinski.
Don’t you fruitbats ever get tired of being wrong about everything?
Thank God for Joe Liberman now, if it wasn’t for the only liberal in America with some sense we would be thoroughly screwed. Keep drinking the kool-aid, its the only thing maintaining your idiotic world view.
Contrary to popular liberal beliefs, common sense, and reality don’t need a whole lot of explanation. At least to those that have a grasp of either. Liberals are constantly making up statistics and a world view they think they can sell. The problem is that it flies in the face of common sense.
You are very hard put to get me or anybody to beleive you, rather than my own eyes. Your ilks global warming myth, abortion not being murder, bad mouthing everything about religion on one hand and then claiming Jesus in on your side with the other. Your ideological religion is just a cult. Fruitbats join your ‘cult’ and then defend it with the same fascist zeal as al queada.
I always get a chuckle out of liberals accusing conservatives of being a ‘Hitler’. Hitler was a freakin’ liberal just like you. Same for Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and ObaMao. Liberal fascists like you fruitbats don’t have any heinous historical figures to equate our policies with so you share one of yours.
Generous of you, but we didn’t need your help with them, we don’t need it now.
I just have to wonder why? Since you don’t know what you’re talking about, why does your ilk insist on screaming something stupid anyway? Don’t you ever get tired of being wrong about everything?
Hey Greg
You do realize that the “fruitbat” you keep going on about is a real animal right?
Now I am going to disregard you, because you sir, are a Lemming.
who is this “ilk” you think you’re talking to?
For somebody whose only argument is blurting out “liberal” and “fruitbat” (??) ever sentence (with a healthy dose of ignorant profanity of course) you sure think you’re a lot more clever than everybody else.
I’m really confused how you could come to these assertions, the best scientists in the world agree (like the guys in NASA) that global climate change is occurring. The AMA, DPH and many other governmental and non-governmental bodies agree that healthcare needs to be reformed. How is it that you think you’re smarter than all these people typing from whatever crazy neo-con camp in the middle of the woods it is that you live.
The least intelligent person in the world is he who doesn’t know what he doesn’t know.
“Why do you think they changed the name of the Mexican flu? The only people that believe the nonsense you’re spreading already subscribe to your degenerate world view”
WOW – not only are you a moron, you’re racist to boot! There nothing that says brilliant mind like bigotry.
“Mexican Flu”! and it is the “liberal fruitbats” that live in a contrived reality? The name of the H1N1 Flu is Influenza A virus subtype H1N1, a severe viral pneumonia which can also infect pigs (thus swine flu)
I really hope you don’t have any children, infecting them with such ignorance and bigotry will not only make it really hard to function in society, but it seems they’ll have some terrible health advice as well.
You’re the type that just reads the headlines I bet, the articles too complicated Greggy? Or maybe you cant stand the headaces – I’ll give you a hint, that headace is the last sane part of you slipping away.
At least my degenerate world view allows me to understand basic science and reasoning
Greg is more like an un-wiped asshole.
there’s smoke in your iris, but you painted a sunny day on the insides of your eyelids.
you have a poor grasp of history and no grasp of argument. you substitute a vicious and unhappy hatred for the common sense you claim to value. whatever inferiority complex you struggle with must torment you.
i admit, i picked an argument with you just to see how far your crazy went, but it turns out you’re more pathetic than insane, and more blind than misguided. i don’t pity you – you don’t deserve it – but i hope your children’s other role models make up for your idiocy, and the world is spared another generation of your perspective.
the people whose views you parrot and defend will continue to take advantage of you and exploit your support until you wake up or you die, whichever comes first. either way, so long as they can keep taking your money and screwing over your kids, they couldn’t care less about you.
i’ll keep jumping down your throat whenever i see a particularly moronic post of yours, and you’ll keep calling me a liberal fruitbat, or whatever else your limited mind can come up with in place of fact or argument. enjoy the impotence of your empty political masturbation.
only in your wet dreams is joe lieberman a liberal.
eisenhower was the last decent republican this country has had in the oval office, and he’s spinning in his grave to hear you speak his name.
must be fun living in a world you’ve entirely imagined for yourself. i bet the guys in there have rock hard pecs and huge throbbing cocks. matter of fact, in your imagination you probably don’t feel so guilty about wanting them to fuck your brains out. too bad you’re too scared to come out of the closet in real life.
You imagine a homo erotic fantasy, then place your superiors in it, in a derogatory fashion. Hmmm…. You have issues with authority figures, and obviously get aroused from them. Did you know your daddy? If not, you are qualified to run for president on the democratic ticket. congrats, I guess………
chuckle, good. stick your head back up your ass like most liberals and revel in your rugged individuality, and self sufficiency. Fruitcake.
Or at least pretend that you do.
Well… My kids will grow up just like their daddy. Self-sufficient. My kids won’t grow up victims of their own imaginations like you did.
Even though women are considered the weaker sex, my wife doesn’t subscribe to your victim mentality either. So my kids have both parents pulling for them. Niether one is confused about their gender nor their orientation. I could go on and on. Your parents obviously didn’t have much to do with your upbrining. Pity. If they did, thats even more pitiable. I don’t doubt for a minute your inability to function in life, you’ve made that abundantly clear. I don’t doubt you have an obsessive desire for the government to take on the role of mommy and daddy in your life. You’ve also made that abundantly clear.
Fortunately for you, my children will be the ones your’s come to for a job. Regardless of what you may imagine the endgame of your fruitcake utopia to be… it isn’t going to happen.
And the nobel committee awarded ObaMao a peace prize, after only 11 days in office. Al Gore won an Oscar for his propaganda flick. You can pretend or believe anything you want, it is a free country. You can’t quote a single global warming sceptic, because they don’t get any attention. You completely ignore the fact that global warming isn’t peer reviewed and can’t be, because they lost the data.
During the Bush years all the attention was on anything and everything anti-Bush. Hell, he even caused Katrina. The point is, you fruitbats ignore reality and believe any and all of the far leftwingnut propaganda simply because its your side thats saying it. Not that it flies in the face of common sense, has nothing to substantiate it or give it a basis in reality.
I don’t want the government involved and running every aspect of my life. I don’t like to be forced to fund your ilks delusions with my tax dollars. I liked the America I grew up in far more than the one you degenerates are fucking up for my kids. Your ilk can go on pretending your made up and hysterical enviromaniacle fantasies are all thats important in life. You can go on pretending your degenerate same sex couplings are ‘normal’ all you want.
I really don’t give a damn what you do with your life personally. When it interferes with mine, we got a problem. Get used to the resistance, because it isn’t going away.
You are ignorant.
I got through your first paragraph and couldn’t read any further. With as warped a world view as you have, there is no reason to flog a dead horse.
You claim I’m paranoid because of the communist bend to the current administration. Yet you live in a bubble of paranoia thinking that businesses sole purpose is to exploit and torture you.
Time will tell which one of us is insane. So, Good luck with that.
heh. my knowledge of psych is better than yours. a small comfort in a world populated by people like you, but nice to have anyway.
women aren’t the weaker sex – what would that even mean? – but i’m glad to hear your wife isn’t a victim. i hope you never make her one.
but i’ll be surprised if your kids don’t end up in therapy, talking about their father who acted out his insecurities and his unhappiness upon them.
i’m not really sure why i continue arguing with you. i’m not a victim and i never have been, and i see you cry victim more than anyone else on this board. debating issues with you is a wash – you don’t think, and you never will. my life actively and concretely improves the lives of others. i suppose what it comes down to is that if people like me win, there will be an earth and a country for both our children to inhabit. if people like you win, or more accurately if the people who manipulate your ideas and exploit your labor win, there won’t. that’s all there is to it.
mmm throbbing cocks. if only you had one you might know what they actually look like.
chuckle, stick your head back up your ass like most conservatives and revel in your rugged individuality, and self sufficiency. wingnut.
chuckle, sounds like you got a bit of penis envy going on there little buddy. Don’t worry about it, I get that a lot from your ilk.
Does it actually cause you any physical pain to be that stupid?
Thats just the kool-aid talkin’, hope you get sober someday.
Comming from a dipshit like you, I’m sure that means something.
Seriously, did you just learn the world “ilk” last month or something? Get a new generalization. If you’re going to broadly categorize anybody who disagrees with you at least be creative in the execution.
Here’s a few: flock, cohort, breed, character, class, and tribe.
now get your foil hat back on, before “they” hear your thoughts.
HA! Thats funny, and now somewhere you’re against rugged individuality and self-sufficiency? We can’t all work in antiquated industries that only exist because of Government subsidies (welfare sucka). Some of us use our BRAINS (the thing between your ears) to make MONEY (the thing your so afraid of losing you’d rather millions of children die from preventable illness)
I have to give you kudos for switching up the insult to “fruitcake”. “Fruitbat” was just creeping me out before, and “Fruitcake” is more festive, for the holiday time.
Really?
Women are the weaker sex?
H1N1 comes from Mexico?
You live in a reality devoid of fact, and The Degenerate is the one “drinking the kool-aid”?
Check your glass man.
i guess you’d have to know what that would feel like, wouldn’t you…
the only arguments you ever make are based on a nefarious Ilk of Fruitbats and Cakes reveling in rugged individualism and self-sufficiency, that loves to cry victim while simultaneously victimizing your children by magically making the food on your children’s plates disappear off their forks.
you contradict yourself every other post, and i wonder how you can actually believe the things that come out of your mouth.
of course, keeping your mind closed means ideas don’t get in and your brain gets to stay in a closed loop. as an example, read your own posts.
No, “ilk” has been around for a long time. It suits people of your “ilk”, more than any of those you wish me to use.
As for tin foil hats, your ilk, have the only heads capable of fitting in them. They are made exclusively for pin heads, in gender nuetral colors, however I have seen some like yours with glitter. Whatever thats for.
You sound a little cuckoo for coco puffs there fruitcake.
I know a bunch of negroes that think going down to get there welfare check from the man “is” using their brains to get money.
You fruitbats can’t miss a beat when you see an opportunity. Regardless of how erratic and insane you look doing it. Making up millions of children dieing from preventable diseases crap. You just gotta lay a bleeding heart out there like its gonna make me feeeel bad to kick you for showing yet again what an idiot you insist on being.
I didn’t want good peoples Christmas soiled with thoughts of your ilks idiotic drivel.
The problem with you kids is, you don’t know anything, nothing about socialism, nothing about capatalism. You just think that suddenly your not a child anymore, people need to take notice of you, simply for being you. Well… you’re getting our attention, and it isn’t good. You might wanna think about that.
With images like that, its easy to see where liberal fruitbats get all their stupid ass ideas from.
really? that’s all you’ve got? and here i thought you were a bottomless pit of vitriol and invective. guess the Ilk takes this round then.
really, greg? you know black people who don’t routinely kick the shit out of you? im disappointed in humanity.
and are you really trying to deny that children die from easily preventable diseases every day? i think it’s you who needs a lesson in christmas spirit, amigo. but i sympathize. it must be difficult and painful to spout contradictory idiocies back to back like you do.
on the subject of capitalism, at least i can spell it. pretty sure that puts me one up on you.
I’m a bit hesitant to post something here because, like most fellow white people, if anyone responds critically to my post of ultimately infinitesimal importance on this small, dusty corner of the internet I may well feel the wholly unnecessary urge to respond by sinking to my opponent’s level and retorting with comments about ‘throbbing cocks,’ ‘fruitbats’ and the use of the word ‘ilk,’ which I’ve gathered is for some reason no longer a legitimate component of the English language.
But I’ll take that risk.
I just wanted to say ‘thank you’ to all the posters on this topic. Liberal, conservative or simply douche, you have all made my day.
Cheerio!
~T.P.
parasitic – just be grateful Greg represents the “other” side. He can be their embarrassment.
I don’t deny that preventable diseases are killing kids. Millions? In this country as an attempt to justify fascist leftwingnut ObaMaocare? Yeah, I do deny that. More kids are killed by abortion in this country. Do you deny that?
I just love the way you talk. You live and breath political correctness. Tell me, just how does it feeeeel to be told exactly what to believe, how to think and what to say? Your reward is like minded fools, telling you, you’re ‘enlightened’. What does that taste like?
If you understood English, you would know, there are no inconsistencies in anything I write. The problem is, your idiotic world view prevents you from living in the real world.
an embarrassment to some, a champion to others, its all in the perspective I guess. But, this board isn’t about them, its about the enjoyment I get from kicking liberals around.
If you call that a “win” you can have it.
Give it up Greg. I’ve learned from working with Liberals that they are unequaled when it comes to being inconsitent. On one hand they don’t want “big brother” watching over them, none of us do. But on the other hand they don’t mind having government controled medican sticking its greasy finger up there ass.
kids aren’t killed by abortion, pregnancies are ended and an embryo or fetus dies. there’s a very profound difference.
your entire writing style and political philosophy (i’m stretching the meaning of the term philosophy here, since that usually implies coherence and some degree of thought) is based on inconsistency. you are only anti, only reactionary. when in your life or in anything you’ve said have you ever stood for something?
political correctness is such an easy demon. never mind its conservatives who are always claiming to be offended, never mind that republicans gleefully cry for censorship when it suits their zealot agenda. whining about pc liberals is just a straw man argument.
go on, trumpet your independence some more, puppet.
and conservatives rail against big government but love it when the military budget balloons, talk about how much they love freedom but defend nsa wiretapping as patriotic, and love to claim populism while their party was presiding over the biggest expansion of the federal government and its power in history. sooo, yeah that makes sense…
heh just found this reply. i wish i was surprised that you wouldn’t read through anything longer than a few paragraphs. if you really believe that insurance companies, and the vast majority of corporations, aren’t out to screw you, you don’t understand how corporate capitalism works.
it’s no wonder we’ve resorted to juvenile insults instead of argument. your faith in the benevolence of evil men is apparently unshakable, and in the end it is true that only time will change either of our minds.
at least insults are a fun way to pass the time.
You can’t even admit to yourself that abortion is murder. That says a lot about you. It just goes to prove that you live in a fantasy world. There is NO other way to see it, you can pretend that it isn’t all you want, but, it doesn’t change reality one bit.
Your ilks desire to include federal funding for abortions in the mess you morons are calling a healthcare bill, is your ilks attempt at making me a party to the murder of those children.
You sound like a teenager. Whenever anyone expects your ilk to have some realization that YOU bear the burden of personal responsibility, your ilk cry ‘HITLER’. Thanks to degenerates like you, I take great joy in pointing out just how ignorant your ilk are about everything, to everybody, every chance I get. Alsto thanks to degenerates like you, you make it very easy by completely ignoring common sense.
but greg, you’re fine with murder. you dont mind denying medical care to anyone whose job doesn’t provide insurance, though they might die from it, you don’t mind killing iraqi children, you don’t mind assassinations of union leaders in latin america. these are all factual, clear cut killings, but they’re ok, because they make you feel manly and sulf-sufficient.
you are directly responsible for murder, and i am too, as a citizen and a taxpayer. the difference is that i know it, and hate it, while you deny it and defend it. our country should be better than this and if you were really a patriot, you’d demand that it be.
It doesn’t bother you one bit not to know anything about what your talking about does it?
No ding dong, I don’t see the world the way you do. You can feeel about anything and everything all you want. The only people I owe a living to are my kids and my wife. If the rest of you degenerates were allowed to starve to death as nature intended, it would be a far better world for my family.
I just don’t understand how through some feeelings, you fruitcakes justify, stealing the food off my kids plates that I bust my ass to provide and pass it around to a bunch of miscreants.
If you werent subisidized to be a lazy fuck, you would do one of two things, get off your lazy asses and get a freaking job and work for everything you want like the rest of us, or starve to death. Now that is FAIR, that is EQUITABLE.
I find government health care to be absolutely ignorant. Why should me and my family work hard and make money so that some lazy ass across town can sit and watch tv with her 5 obese children all fucking day. Oh but we would have the same health benefits… fuck that
You guys aren’t accomplishing anything and you aren’t discussing the issues. You’re just calling each other names and trying to insult each other. It’s this type of behavior that has completely polarized our two major political parties. And keeps us from being able to accomplish anything.
Health care is essential. No one is going to be denied health care. It doesn’t matter whether they pay for it or not, or whether you or I think they deserve, they are going to get it. No politician is going to agree that someone should be denied necessary health care.
So really the arguement is about money. The cost of treating the uninsured patients is killing those of us who do have insurance because we have to pay for it. The cost of offering a government plan is going to kill us in taxes. There is no way around it if we go with either of those 2 options, we’re going to pay for it.
So Greg, if you have insurance, and you go to the doctor, you’re already paying for the uninsured with inflated insurance rates / co-pays when the cost of their free treatment is passed on to us.
I don’t support the health care bill anymore than you do. There has to be some way to offer health care without the government getting involved. They have never done anything well. But being so aggressive isn’t going to get us anywhere.
I’m from Canada and I only think of the universal system as okay… I’ve never had surgery or anything that required waiting so I have never had to wait in line, but I have heard of people who died in the emergency room having to wait to be checked up or people who died waiting for a surgery spot to open up.
correction: black people want free Health Care. Example. Obama. btw im black
Greg, you’re my hero ❤
You stated that he does not know what he’s talking about but never gave any evidence to his inaccurate information. Please clear this up, I’m dying to see how he is wrong.
Being aggressive towards liberals is just plain fun. Making fun of their stupid ideas is also fun. Health care is already offered to me and everybody else that gets up off their lazy asses and gets a freaking job and takes personal resposibility for themselves and their families. Subsidizing degenerate, irresposible, miscreants enabling them to avoid any kind of personal responsibility is the problem.
As long as you keep subsidizing that kind of behavior, you will get more of it than anybody or everybody can possibly afford. The logic is so easy and full of common sense, any moron can understand it. The problem with kool-aid drinkers is, common sense to a liberal is the same as a manger scene at Christmas. They just can’t stand it. They fascistly believe they should in no way be held to account for THEIR actions and their lives should be made easy off the plates of the kids of everybody that takes personal responsibility seriousely.
Give them nothing. If they won’t do for themselves, they deserve nothing. Let them starve to death, humanity will be better off for it.
The guy is a complete fool. If you even remotely think anything that fruitcake has said is based in reality, you may need to seriousely consider what you kind of kool-aid you have been drinking.
As a former small business owner I know exactly how corporations or any kind of business works. Regardless of what your kool-aid induced imagination tells you. They are trying to make money. Every business owner realizes delivering an affordable product to market at a profit is the key to success. When federal regulations, taxes, state and local taxes and regulations have taken their piece of the pie, you get whats left. In my case after 10 years, the state was the one, with their sanctuary state policy, and exorbant taxes that dropped the bottom out of the market and made it impossible for me to continue in an honorable fashion.
Meaning I didn’t hire illegals under the table and screw over clients. Several of my competitors did and one is still in jail. The rest had to give it up because their reputations can’t be salvaged and can’t do business profitably.
I would much rather live in a country or a state that provided the opportunity for me to make a decent living, than a state or a country that decided what a decent living was for me to have.
Ooh, insults. You’re so sauve.
I’m white, and I think that the idea of free healthcare is completely and utterly idiotic….you work, and your employer or school will provide you (and your spouse and dependent children) with insurance. If you’re too sorry to work, you don;t deserve healthcare.
Didn’t you state you were white in the ObaMao thread, make up your mind already.
Are you serious? All employers don’t provide healthcare. A lot of employers DO NOT provide healthcare. Having a job DOES NOT = healthcare.
ah greg, i’ve missed you since i’ve been away.
you keep providing such a clear example of what circular logic drives modern conservativism. all issues can be blamed on some evil degenerates somewhere else. all government assistance goes to degenerates, and all degenerates receive government assistance.
and of course, all government assistance comes from the plates of greg’s children. no need for facts, logic, or anything resembling thought – why think when you can respond to anything with some combination of “liberal,” “fruitcake/bat,” and “ilk”?
people like you, greg, are the real degenerates. your intellectual laziness and moral self-absorption drag this lovely idea of a country down into the mud.
at least you’re amusing to argue with – if you can call this arguing.
Every time you open your mouth you prove everything I say about liberal fruitcakes. Yes, all government assistance does come from the taxes I pay, which would otherwise be on the plates of my kids. Not only the plates of my kids, but the kids of every other hard working, personal responsibility having American in the entire country. That is the fact ding dong, you can pretend other wise if you like, but it doesn’t change anything.
Just because ObaMao is printing money just as fast as he can, trying to buy support for his idiotic agenda, doesn’t mean every damn dime of it isn’t going to come off the plates of every hard working Americans kids. Your ilks complete failure to recognize real world costs and consequences for your idiotic fantasy world view speaks loudly of your ilks non-existent grasp on reality.
If you didn’t have your head so far up the democrat parties ass, you might see for yourself that YOU are just as screwed by liberal policies as me and my kids are. When you weigh the costs and consequences of ObaMao’s idiotic agenda, against the fantasy (best case) of it, it still isn’t worth it. The reality of his agenda is a complete freakin’ disaster on anybodies scale. He fixes no problems, does a great deal more harm than doing nothing, practically bankrupts the country in his idiotic power grab, and is going to make America worse off than if he was never born.
Even the one thing liberals point to as a success, “cash for clunkers”, was in reality another freaking’ government handout disaster.
But…. what the hell your ilk are so stupid you still believe in global warming. Your own eyes show you the coldest winter in 40 years, most snow EVER in many places, record low temps across the country and the world, and still you liberal nutbags piss your pants whining, “OMG we gotta pass cap and tax to save the world”!
Its the same kind of thing when you keep telling all of us how smart and educated you dumbasses are. The proof isn’t there dipshit.
A true standard in comedy blogging.
Another great site is http://www.SomethingYouShouldRead.com
Then perhaps you might wanna try something besides an espresso stand for a job fruitcake.
Ok this is just ridiculous.
No, Not ALL government assistance comes from the taxes YOU pay. It comes from the taxes WE ALL PAY. And since I am a hard working personal responsibility having (bizarre wording) American I will gladly pay taxes for things that make sense and I dont see how Free Healthcare DOESNT make sense. Are you a human being? is the apparently lazy piece of shit you speak of not a human being as well? Then whats the problem? If you come across someone who needs your help do you say “aw fuck off and take responsiblity for it”? How does that line of thinking make any sense if I injured myself through no fault of my own? or got sick? No one chooses to get sick or have and accident. I THINK thats why its called an accident.
What is with the ObaMao name? I dont get it? When did he start us on a Long March? Did he start rounding up and murdering intellectuals and teachers? WOW I had no idea thats nutzzzzz! Where do you people get these wierd ideas? You may want to call him a socialist but somehow I have a problem with the whole, oh I dunno proping up Wall Street (the beating heart of American CAPITALISM) and (IMO selling out to Big Insurance/Big Pharma) then turning around and calling him a socialist letalone ObaMao. Get your facts straight.
Not everyone who espouses liberal policy is a Democrate/Socialist/whatever kind of definition for “liberal” you seem to hold on to so dearly. All you’ve done is spout rhetoric. Thinking about it I dont know if it even qualifies as rhetoric the more I look at your post the more it just seems like a lot of negative nonsense strung together without any real support for what you are saying. EX “The reality of his agenda is a complete freakin’ disaster on anybodies scale.” I’d ask What agenda? (the evil liberal one?), What disaster are you talking about cause while I will admit he hasnt been THAT affective yet (its only been a little over ONE year) we also havent had anything really happen that could qualify as a “disaster” And what scale are you talking about? Rush Limbaughs?
I could give a sh*t less about ‘cash for clunkers’ move on.
Oh boy here we go…Global Warming. I’ll just leave it up to you to prepare for Global Cooling then. Have fun with that. Hope if works out for you.
What proof have you shown for how smart and educated you are? You know how to use the word ilk? Good Job DUDE! YOU GET A GOLD STAR FOR THE DAY!
Who do you think you are? You’re ridiculous. I have employer provided insurance. That was a stupid comment she made, I was calling her out. Not everyone has the credentials to have a job as you and I may have. There are plenty of employers who do not provide insurance because of it’s cost. Get over yourself.
Are you really that slow? If you don’t have the “credentials”, get them. It is a free country, well….. for the most part, until the rest of ObaMao’s agenda is in place. Why is it liberals always claim to be so freakin’ intelligent yet can’t grasp the obviouse. A handout isn’t the only way to get things done. You and anybody else can, and regularly do, get training and education that do enhance their credentials. This is called having half a brain and applying your little silly self to something besides crying for a handout.
Why don’t you take a minute or ten and pull your head out. Or is your mind so open the brains have fallen out?
Amazing you read my entire post responded to the whole thing and didn’t understand a damn word of it. You were smart enough to quote the line, “every other hard working personal responsibility having American, yet didn’t grasp that I wasn’t the only one in that group.
Why does just being a human being qualify you for government confiscation and redistribution of the food off my kids plates? Neither I nor any member of my family is entitled to such a bonus, why the hell do you degenerates think you are deserving of it? What the hell makes you think you are so much better than me that you aren’t required to get off your lazy piece of shit ass and get out in the weather and provide for yourself and yours the same as we do?
I have had accidents and been hospitilized, and family members have been very ill. All of it paid for from the insurance we acquired through our jobs, or military service.
ObaMao is a communist. If you don’t understand what that is, ask, google the word, read a book. More than likely you have people living and working very close to you that were raised in communist countries. Talk to one of them. If you are so naive as to think ObaMao’s policies are anything other than a communist take over of government and the country, you may need to put down the kool-aid, step away from the table and re-assess the situation.
If you still imagine man made global warming isn’t the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind. You may need to do the same again.
ObaMao hasn’t been effective? The only legitimate bitch liberal fruitcakes had against Bush was his spending. ObaMao doubled it overnight, tripled it the next day, and with his government takeover of healthcare is threatening to bury us under so much debt your kids and mine will never know what the America we grew up in, if your over 30, ever was. That is a disaster on anybody with a sound minds scale.
I guess you know what you can do with your ilks “goldstar”, if you haven’t noticed, getting your ilks approval isn’t real high on my priority list.
As a republican and conservative, you embarrass us all. Are you so ignorant to think that everyone can have a great job? Do you not realize that the many of the luxuries that we enjoy are provide by employees whose employers do not offer them healthcare? If everyone did get training and education, who would fill those jobs that we don’t want.
The same damn people that those jobs were intended for in the first place you ignorant sack of shit. High school kids and kids trying to put themselves through school. they were never intended to support a freakin family, sanctuary state policies changed all that, and now you socialist morons think I owe them illegal pieces of shit a living and health care with the food off my kids plates.
Why is it everybody else feeeeels the pain of how freakin’ stupid your ilk are, except your ilk.
As one who has been searching for a job with adequate health benefits to cover major hand surgery in the shittiest economic climate of my lifetime, let me have the honor of sending you a hearty “Fuck you,” Greg.
Some people feel that the right to live should not be dependent on how much money you make. I’m happy everything is going well for you in your bubble.
The right to live should be only granted to those willing to take care of their freaking selves. Believing you have a right to live without having personal responsibilty to support that fruitcakes lifestyle choice is the bubble that needs to be popped.
Well, hears hoping your hand falls off dipshit. Go fuck yourself queer.
Not that I care for this inane debate, but it wasn’t Roosevelt’s policies that sparked the Great Depression. It was essentially a 10 year process following WWI that was a circular transition of wealth. U.S made loans to war-torn Germany to rebuild the corporate infrastructure, Germany used this money to pay back reparations to France and Great Britain, and France and Great Britain paid us back for the weapons we sold them during the war. This downfall can’t be attributed to only one source.
What do you even know about economic policy? Economies are infinitely more complex than you seem to understand. There are innumerable variables that contribute to the success or failure of an economy, many of which can’t even be controlled (i.e. the reason communism failed in the Soviet Union is because of a lack of inspiration and desire).
There also seems to be a grave misconception about Obama’s spending. This downturn was created by corruption in the banking sector. Basically, banks gave out loans to easily so they could represent them as assets on their precious balance sheets. Due to the fact government didn’t regulate enough, and countless failures by the FTC, they got away with this leading to huge profits. It was free market capitalism that bred this atrocity. “Obamao”… quite frankly we’re not even close to socialism. Every aspect of your life would be controlled by the government.
Finally “fruitbats” has to be the strangest insult I have ever seen. It doesn’t offend me, but makes me wonder exactly who you’re referring to. And what the hell is your problem with kool-aid? Trying to play the racial stereotype card… because its poorly executed.
“If they won’t do for themselves, they deserve nothing. Let them starve to death, humanity will be better off for it…”
-Greg
“If they had die than they better do it and decrease the surplus population.”
-Ebeneezer Scrooge (direct quote from “A Christmas Carol”)
I know it’s not a real argument but I thought the comparison was just rich. At least Scrooge sees the error of his ways by the end of the play. Greg will just die, glad that he can finally leave this country full of “Fruitcakes” ruled by “ObaMAO.” This country that he tried so hard to save from the idiotic liberals. Why oh why wouldn’t they listen to him?
Strange you didn’t get the meaning of the Christmas Carol. I’m not surprised though. Conservatives, myself included do more for our fellow man and through personal charity than liberals ever have. That was the moral of the story in the Christmas Carol. Not government fleecing and redistribution policies supporting those they deem worthy rather than those truly deserving.
Not government stealing the food out of the mouths of the kids I take responsibility for, to feed, clothe, house, give medical care to, educate, the kids and their parents who take no responsibility for none of their own degenerate lifestyle choices. Your ilk have more in common with the un-reformed Scrooge than any conservative ever will.
Thats the fucked up thing about the kool-aid you fascist liberal cult fruitcakes drink, or maybe a good thing about it if you are one of those fruitcakes. It makes you completely obliviouse to reality as any non panty wearing, kool-aid drinking, handout begging, sniveling welp, liberal, fruitcake experiences.
I just love it when a liberal fruitcake try’s to “act” intelligent. I never said Roosevelt caused the Great depressions ding dong, I said “he presided over it”. His idiotic economic policies during the time, depened it and prolonged it, thats history. It took a second world war to get us out of it, that is also history. Real history, not that revisionsit nonsense many of you fruitcakes pretend is reality.
The corruption in the banking sector you fruitcakes keep pretending was evil corporations and bankers taking advantage of the unwashed masses was in reality government mandated. The chairman of the banking and commerce committee, at the time, your very own Barney Frank, instituted policies under Bush that forced Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and all other morgage lenders to issues loans to people that would never be able to pay them back under threat of penalties. The housing bubble created by that LIBERALS policies was reported to Bush by the FBI, who told him it was unsustainable. 3 times Bush went to congress and asked them to look into it, 3 times, your man Barney Frank went on television saying there was nothing wrong with the morgage lending process. In fact he said, “they ought to be issueing more mortgages”.
Now all you fruitbats continue to blame everybody else but the real people and thier idiotic ideological dogma that was responsible for the current economy, and keep giving ObaMao a pass for making it exponentially worse.
The good and bad about living with your head so far up your ass is, you can’t see what the hell is going on, the bad is, your world view still stinks.
Are your children starving Greg? Malnourished? I’m sorry I was not aware. In that case you have my apologies. If not than maybe you should stop talking about the government stealing the food out of their mouths, because it’s a really ridiculous argument.
Thats a stupid analogy for why someone should’nt be upset. Just because they have a family that isn’t starving doesn’t give them any less right to be upset at the government taking more than they should from his or her families income! That’s what the government doing, and your analogy is ignorant. Just because a criminal isn’t in jail doesn’t mean he or she is not a criminal!
Well if he doesn’t like that the government’s taking his money for whatever reason then just say that. Don’t hide behind some bullshit about taxes taking away your kid’s food. I wasn’t saying that he shouldn’t complain just because his children aren’t starving.
Perhaps, I just want you fruitcakes to know that everything you get, comes right out of the mouths of the kids others are trying desperately to support.
That isn’t an exaggeration like you dimbulbs are prone to use either. The point is, when you fruitcakes get all the food off my kids plates who’s going to be left to tax, to feed them? The answer is, cause I know you’re struggling with that one, nobody. Thats why communism doesn’t work, never has, and never will.
Government should be preserving and enhancing our abilities to take care of ourselves, not punishing us for doing so by enhancing the resources of the degenerates among us to be even more degenerate.
You will probably have to have somebody translate that for you.
All the food on my plate comes from my appreciable salary, but thanks Greggo 🙂
The food I get off your kids plate is just for fun.
You’re welcome douchebag, and thank you for clearly and most succingtly illustrating all my points about you fruitcakes. You don’t give a damn about the damage the costs and consequences of your ilks degenerate ideological dogma causes, being far worse than the imaginary problem you feign to fix.
Reducing everyone to the lowest common demonitor, gives government complete control over every facet of the public sector turning us all into subjects rather than citizens.
Communism.
I am white, and I hate the idea of free health care or any government handouts for that matter. Most white people do…This “thing that white people like” should be removed from the blog.
This blog just makes fun of “liberal” white people, it doesn’t apply to anybody of any race with a spine.
We have the best healthcare because we have the richest economies, has nothing to do with socialized or not. “Even though you have the best fanciest” speal is kind of pointless as we have the best everything, that doesn;t mean we’re stupid for wanting to still improve it. You present it as if theres an alternative non white option other than second and third world applications.
You should add one that says “Making fun of your own race as if it disassociates you from it”
haha “used to” until it became Obama led reality.
this definitely needs to be updated
white people now think universal healthcare is a “fascist communist (once enemies- now united in an oxymoron)” danger
even obaMao is starting to get the msg, telling the senate not to advance his latest must have fiasco, the healthcare mess, until brown is seated. Woo Hoo!!!!!!
Uh… poverty isn’t a choice….
I find it hilarious how much Greg is overcompensating with ‘masculine’ language.
Right…. because overweight children don’t deserve healthcare…. that makes SO much sense.
Can we please stop equating gay people and women as liberal and weak?
In America… it is.
As hard as it is for you fruitcakes to imagine, there are real people in the world that don’t drink that kool-aid that shrunk your balls and brain.
where does this “deserve” bullshit” come from? Your ilk don’t “deserve” a damn thing you don’t earn for your freakin’ selves. Now that, makes sense.
I know how you feel, I like to think that most people can write a single sentence without conjugation errors.
Oh fantasy…..
This blog is the most rediculous and ignorant thing I have ever read. Not only is it narrowminded and racist, but there is no real basis for the things posted. Greg is right, it’s not about just white people, this post describes liberals. I didn’t know that white people could like certain things. Are you trying to say that black, asian, or latin people don’t like anything on this list??
Man there are some retards reading this site. Back to special school for you Gina.
Gina, i think you are seriously reading into it a little to deep. Perhaps you are being a little to hypersensitive about anything and everything that is mentioned on this blog. Try not to let it get to you and just do what this site was created to do, discussion board! Besides who cares if it is racist or not, it’s not like there isn’t other sites geared directly to the black, asian , or latin markets. I am sure it may be so gear towards those other cultures that whites wouldn’t begin to understand but, you don’t hear them bitchin about it cause they just don’t giva damn! lol I am just curious what is so wrong about having a website(s) exclusive to just white people, if that were the case?
Saying that american white people in general like free healthcare is ridiculous.
Let me explain why.
There are many kinds of white people besides the upwardly mobile type portrayed by this blog… including rednecks, whites who think they’re black/hispanic, radical religious, and European immigrant. Amongst all the white people I know, ( a small sampling of only a few hundred, but I WOULD note that I live in a politically liberal state…) Of all the white people I know, not ONE of them supports free healthcare. This isn’t just me, its a huge portion of the white population. Look at the anti-healthcare rallys… Full of white people, and not much else. It would be more true to say white people HATE free healthcare, perhapes because so few of them would qualify for it…
Loser
Not supporting free healthcare doesn’t change the fact that millions of Americans cannot afford private insurance.
Healthcare insurance is very complicated. There are a lot of nuances and factors in determining coverage and cost… the same plan is not offered to everyone. You may be lucky enough to have your employer offer health insurance but that doesn’t guarantee that your premiums will be offered within an affordable price range.
I work at a health insurance company and if it weren’t for the government regulations you would see substantially more denials for utilization reviews. There would be a lot more services considered “not medically necessary” and “contract exclusions”.
Did you know most insurance companies consider pregnancy a pre-existing condition? Maybe government run health care is not the answer but rethinking and implementing change in our current system is critical. Just because you may have health insurance doesn’t give you the right to begrudge others from receiving it. Quit being so fucking self-serving and show some humanity!
If it comes off the plates of my kids, I do have the right to begrudge it to anybody, and you can stick your steal the food out of my kids mouths, and bonus everybody else with it brand of humanity right up you rainbow loving ass.
but most would qualify to pay for it.
Which is exactly why they tend not to support it. 😉
Nobody wants to pay for stuff they can’t use.
Excuse me, was that in english? Figures that the one speaking gibberish is also the one taking personal shots at someone who thinks differently than he does.
yes, yes it is English, not the negro dialect you’re probalby used too. It isn’t going to make sense to your ilk anyway.
Greg was bent way over, being pumped in the butt by his English setter.
“Yes, yes it IS English!!”, he screams.
The english setter replies, “Not the negro dialect you’re probably used to up your ass, eh?”
Greg screams, “It isn’t going to make sense to your ilk anyway so keep pumping that big hot dog ding up my aaaassssss!!!”
You’re right, this does describe white liberals of a certain ilk, but I think that is the point. This is race humor in line with the fine work of Dave Chappelle or Martin Mull (from the 1980s), or any number of white-parody Saturday Night Live skits. While I think some of you didn’t get that this was just supposed to be funny, I think the level of discourse here is far beyond that of most internet sites. Keep on keepin’ on! JT
Phoebe. Please never comment again. Your grammar (or lake thereof) hurts my eyes.
FAIL!
Ha! Too bad Brown is a bipartisan badass. You guys weren’t expecting that were you? 🙂 Good stuff. He’s an undercover democrat….sweeeeet.
Greg sounds like a bigot, and pissed off that there are people who aren’t.
Go fuck yourself you Nazi.
Hey jr., how many fingers am I holding up?
go fuck your mother, bitch
no, no we can’t
What, so the “wrong kinds of white people” or brown people arent in favor of improving healthcare in this country too? Get out.
Most of these articles are funny and pretty spot on, but this one gets a “Fail” for it’s cavalier attitude towards a deadly serious issue in this country. I’m a pretty lighthearted person but I’m not laughing at this one.
I’m Hispanic and I’d love free healthcare. This isn’t a race issue, I think.
Im white.(I dont have to say that too often). I agree with this article but most white people definitely do not agree with sociallized medicine. I doubt seriously that you have been in a position where you needed care or would have died. My point is that you do not altogether know what the “healthcare” situation is. Most white people I know very much agree that working out the kinks with medical insurance needs to happen, but not socialized medicine.
Deadly my ass. You dont even know. I have seen firsthand that very many people do not get insurance simply because they wish to have other things.(Mainly younger people or crazys that are paranoid about doctors). Im luaghing because this article is true, maybe not of all white people, but true non the less.
I’m white and I don’t want the government to yank food out of my kids mouths to pay for your free healthcare, there might be some race involved in the issue after all.
ROFL. okay. You speak for all white people about whether or not they want “socialized medicine”…okay. MY ass. You sound like those sold-out good for nothing Republican windbags in the Senate who’re about 10,000 years old between the lot of ’em and so out of touch with reality its not even funny. Yell about what you want and call it the American opinion until you’re blue in the face. It’s not what the polls (facts) say.
Fail. Most white people oppose universal healthcare because it redistributes a portion of their paycheck to help pay for the medical needs of minorities. You could argue that these are the wrong or right kind of whites, or that the “whiteness” we’re discussing is the liberal hipster variety (seriously not to be confused with the Casper-looks-positively-dark variety of whitey-cracker-ass-white Libertarian).
Nevertheless, the paradigm has to be questioned in this circumstance. Whites invariably support the status quo because it favors their dominance.
Why is it you panty wearing, nut huggers always equate white dominance with our aversion to your ilks hands in our pockets?
Its freakin’ free country fruitcake, with all the programs stealing food out of my kids mouths going to give your ilks dumb, irresponsible, no work ethic having pieces of shit, providing you preferential hiring simply because your “ethnic, orientated fucked up, or got a puss”, not because you have any degree of competence.
How dare you bitch about some percieved white dominance that I’m not doing enough for your ignorant, lazy ass. Dumb fucks like you are the reason white people prefer white people.
fruitcake
“It’s not what the polls (facts) say”. LOL!!! Only a real DUMB ASS would believe what a poll says. The “facts” as you and most liberals so easily point out are, polls if you really look close at how, where and who the pollster spoke to, would see are FIXED. I can go to any mall in the country at a certain time of the day on a certain day of the week and only talk to a certain group of people be them black or white, young or old, and get the result I’m looking for.
You’d think with all the money they spend on medical research they could at least cure one disease
And you’d be right, we’ve got cures for leprosy, smallpox, cholera, and a host of other diseases. But of course you never hear about those diseases, cause we well… cured them.
“Health care is already offered to me and everybody else that gets up off their lazy asses and gets a freaking job”
Knock on wood….Hope the economy is treating you well this year….
Btw where are all the Canadian and British whites on the thread? They love it just as much as American whites lol (they ones who can afford anyway)
Greg, can you list a few reasons why public health care would be so bad? and this is a legitimate question, i would just like to know. i’m not a fruitcake or a liberal i promise
thanks greg
free health care? nothing is free. it’s paid for by taxes…the more “free” health care is, the higher the taxes are. look at europe; they pay incredibly high taxes to support their health care system.
by the way, the 30 million uninsured in our country are not the “great unwashed masses”. they are young, healthy people who decline health care so they can keep more of their paychecks. (why health care is tied to employment is another question altogether. that ought to change!) the numbers are skewed by a lack of information…
If you can’t imagine the disaster of universal healthcare, it means 2 things, 1 you have never been to a country that had it, and experienced it first hand. 2 the costs associated with the substandard healthcare everybody will have to endure, isn’t your problem.
I bust my ass to make sure my kids have the best healthcare I can provide. I am not eager to see my efforts thrown out the damn window in favor of some fruitcake fantasy bullshit.
If you support that crap you are indeed a liberal and a fruitcake, I promise.
You’re welcome.
You are an ignorant fellow, aren’t you, Greg? You’re just one of many holding back the tide of progress.
But guess what? Your kind is dying out. Just like the communist-hunters before you, and the fascists before them, and the slavers before them, and the witch-hunters before them, your ancient ways will fall and die, and we will rise above the ashes. You will never succeed because progress cannot be halted. With time, we will advance the common good, and do away with your misguided and selfish notions.
America is on the rise, and soon we will be picking our teeth with your kind’s bones.
Government healthcare is failing in Europe and most of the “insured” want out of the deal and so does the gov cause it is going broke. If you have macular degeneration, you will not receive care in the UK because the meds are too expensive. So many will lose their sight because they do not have any other insurance option. How sad. In the US no one goes without medical care. Many do not have insurance. Many choose not to have insurance. Many doctors in private practice do not choose to treat certain insurance carriers, due to the lack of payment or low percentage of payment. Would you provide service or work a certain amount of hours at your job and then accept payment for 30% of your labor? Why should Md’s?
That post is just a series of disconnected thoughts and poorly understood ideas gleaned mostly from bullshit headlines and the fox new ticker.
1. Who the fuck cares about the Europeans – we’ve always been better at figuring shit out and I expect that we’ll continue to be. Are you saying providing a base level of health coverage to all citizens is too much of a task for us?
2. “in the US no one goes without medical care” You’re a moron, but partially right. The uninsured go to Emergency Rooms or free clinics who must treat them under the COBRA laws. This cost is passed on to those of us with insurance at a much higher per visit cost and yet they recieve sub-par care. If they were in the system we would pay less out of our paycheck and how lower premiums.
3. -all that bull you said about insurances, ect… 1st Ask yourself in you know what a clearing house is. If you don’t, never talk about health insurance again cause you’re just reguritating newspaper blurbs. Physicians are making significantly less money than they were even 5 years ago, thats fact. As a result out quality of care has decreased, as now doctors must be business men 1st, doctors 2nd. Regulations and checks on the system are the only thing that will stabalize that market.
By the way – 8 Million of the uninsured are children. CHILDREN.
Just not Gregs children – its too much fun stealing the food off their plates…..
MORON!
This already happens, I guess you 1. have never gotted a paycheck, or 2. never looked at it.
Where the fuck do you think medicare comes from?
We’re in the EndGame! We thought we couldn’t make it, but now we’re here and one step away from becoming reality. Go for it, Obama. Bring us free health care, America.
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAH You are a freakin lunatic. America is on the verge of fucking collapse due entirely to your idiotic ilks misguided, fantasy world view.
Your ilks heads are so far up your asses, you can’t fathom the disaster staring you right in the face. Your idiotic fantasy of “progress” is at best the most repressive, and condescending insult perpetrated on the public outside of cold war Russia ever.
The only thing you’ll be picking your teeth with is “hope and change” for some more of that stupid juice so you can forget about how hungry you are. fuck head.
On the contrary, America is on the rise. Our stock numbers are going up, and we are imprisoning those self-interested beasts by the day.
You see, Greg, progressivism is America’s salvation. We have the capacity to create paradise, for the first time ever, and all it requires is discipline and an undying devotion to the common welfare. Ancient relics such as yourself have tried to resist this change, to further perdition on Earth, but you will not last.
In the past, men such as yourself resisted change and were themselves met with the full force of tomorrow. The British said with fury that we would be ground under their tyrant heel, and we stood up and said “no.” We progressed then, and installed democracy.
Even then, we were not perfect. Perfection is a social organism that has no components of self-destruction, such as your beloved competitive markets. The South said, then, that they could hold men as property, for that is the way it always had been. The end of slavery, they said, would be the end of civilization. We crushed them, and at the same time, we freed them.
Problems persisted. Fat men with large cigars and armed forces beat down the common person, and the tyrant was born anew. He controlled the masses with the dollar, and claimed his position was earned on account of his intellect. He strangled the people, for better or for worse, acting only in his own selfish interest.
And yet, we still rose up. We said “no” and demanded fair treatment for the workers, the blood of our society, and said that women, too, should have equal say. We rose up, and though they tried to hold us back, we defeated them.
In the ’50s, the black people of America realized their plight, and said “no,” demanding the rights afforded to them of their stations as human beings, capable of love, loss, thought, and cognition as fundamentally as you and I. Your ignorant, selfish kind tried to hold them back – they shouted down the African-Americans and said “integration will destroy America.”
But they could not hold us back. We integrated and it was wonderful.
So you see, though you might cling to your ancient rhetoric, like a dinosaur shouting at the asteroid you, too, will fall. Progress cannot be halted. If it takes forever, we will create the perfect society – and people like you will be lost to history, as hated and reviled as the Redcoats, Klan, and Nazis of whom you are their intellectual progeny.
Why doesn’t anyone bring up medical research in these types of disussions? U.S. private research companies are willing to dump millions of dollars in medical research because of the knowledge that they will reap profit if they are able to develop a cure for something. With free health care, there is no substantial profit for developing cures, and thus no incentive for private research. This is why America has been the most innovative country in terms of medicine. (This is soon to change… sigh.) Also, why a Canadian leader came to the U.S. for surgery (google it, you Dem tard), instead of using the “awesome” free health care provided in countries like Canada and Europe. Also, I don’t understand why everyone attacks the insurance companies? It doesn’t make sense to me to think that insurance companies caused medical costs to rise, and not the other way around.
You are a fucking idiot and its pointless to try to reason with morons like you, drunk on stupid juice.
Your fruitcake fantasy just passed the house. Now we’ll see if you can still pretend in your fantasy of what you thought it would be materializes into the reality you experience.
Just continue to ignore, the massive unemployment, that can’t do anything but continue and grow because this. How much good does your freakin free healthcare do you when you don’t have anything to eat dumbass?
Your ilk are so used to having your hands in somebody else’s fucking pocket in order to survive, what the fuck are you going to do now that there won’t be enough mother fuckers paying taxes to feed your ignorant, panty wearing cockwasher?
You seem to be under the impression that I am a parasite, like yourself. No, Greg, unlike you I am thin and fit – and I get my health insurance hassle-free being employed as a psychiatrist in the city of my birth.
But you see, although I myself have ordered my life in a way that eludes so many, there are millions out there who can barely afford food or shelter, and though I have done my best to advance the common good with social psychiatry, there is only so much one person can do.
It is for that reason that the perfect government is one that ensures its people are properly cared for. You see, a government is composed directly of its constituents, and what kind of government is it that is obsessed with the notion of self-inebriation? A truly wise government would stick out a hand to help up he who can barely stand.
In part, I know you agree with me, and your bizarre obsession with your half-truth has blinded you. I was born in Oxford – in Britain. I left Britain because their conservatism disgusted me. Except for the national health service, they did very little to help out the common man.
So I came to America, the land of hope so-called. Here, you have done much to advance the common good: public highways, libraries, centers devoted to the arts, subsidies for banks and oil companies and automobile manufacturers, the fire department, the police department, and free healthcare for your elderly and your congressmen.
I wonder, then, being as it is you already pay so much in taxes ( a large portion of which is going to the military which seems only able to humiliate itself abroad in pointless conflicts), why re-apportioning your funds to a more healthy endeavor is so disgusting? Do you honestly hate your fellow man so much that you would rob him of his right to live? Just so your fat children can continue to stuff their faces? In a sense, I envy you: you have the capacity to believe in nothing.
Despite your lack of faith, Greg, America cannot fall. It is too large a country, and her populace is too well-set in her ways to overthrow itself. You claim to be for change, but you would probably curl up and die in a war zone. I have met war-heroes, Greg. I have met young men who came back from Iraq, tortured with the memory of their dead best friend’s face, and I have seen the glimpse of courage that shimmers gently beneath the surface. Your people are parasites. It is your people who sent young men like they to fight and die in a war that cannot be won. It is your people who crush the common man to serve your own selfish desires. It is your people who keep down the oppressed lest they rise in revolt.
So, Greg, you may continue to fume about the incoming future, but your end is coming. Soon you will only be a memory, forced to watch from the sidelines as we erect utopia. But take heart, Greg: from your pain, paradise will be born, and soon we will put an end to the wretched notion of self-above-all.
yeah bama, bring on free healthcare, ram cap and trade too. make sure you make all those illegal aliens into citizens so they vote you in for 4 more years and then you can really socialize this country, free tuition , free drugs, free housing throw the rich people naked into the street and take all they have and redistribute that wealth… GO Bama GO
I believe that we should all pay our own way, even those who ride on the backs of others until they reach a certain status then decide that the “free” ride should not be extended to everyone. When I work and pay a certain premium per month so that my family and I are covered in case of a medical mishap I expect my insurance company to cover the costs. The best thing about universal health care is that it will cause the private insurance companies to start treating their customers like humans instead of “cases”. If individuals have a choice it forces private insurance companies to revamp their regulations regarding what ailments they cover. There are millions of people who pay their premiums and never get sick. Insurance companies are receiving more premiums than they are paying claims. If they weren’t they couldn’t stay in business. So let’s give the people universal health care and dismantle the blood sucking private insurance companies.
Private corporations funding medical research are out to make money on prozac and viagra, not to cure any life-threatening disease. They know where the money is. What we should be researching is how to prevent life-threatening diseases in the first place, but nobody’s doing that right now because the company is not going to make any money from people preventing disease with their lifestyle. They will make money from drugs that people have to take continually, like prozac. That leads to people being diagnosed with problems they don’t actually have and paying ridiculous sums of money for drugs they don’t need. If with get private corporations out of medical research, the people who are left are the ones that genuinely want to save people.
Ok, seriously, this is the fiftieth comment I’ve seen you whining about evil communist liberals taking food away from your kids. If you’re going to bitch about taxes, please use a better excuse than “my children are starving because the government is making me pay for health insurance for Mexicans, but I can somehow pay for an internet connection!” STFU. There’s a much better chance that your children are eating themselves to death rather than wasting away because you have to pay taxes. What about that public education your children are probably benefiting from? That’s paid for by taxes, but of course you won’t admit that.
The United States currently invests over $35 billion annually in medical research. Federal support accounts for about 38 percent of this total, and private industry over 50%; the rest comes from various public and private sources. So now we can kiss HALF the funding goodbye. Plus, with all the government’s money being spent on sustaining health throughout the country, there is going to be significantly less money left for research funding grants.
Do you even know how many diseases Americans have cured in the past? Probably not. You seem to believe that we only have discovered how to give someone a boner, or keep them from going bald. Wrong, wrong. You also seem a little blinded by the illusion that people work and bust their ass their entire lives under the influence of good-will. Wake up. People slave away at undergrad school and then spend hundreds of thousands of dollars in student loans to go to med school so that when they come out 8 years later, they can start making their money back to pay off the loans and then some. Money is the greatest motivator for advancement and productivity, you Dem’s just cannot seem to grasp that concept. Sure, there are probably a few people out there who genuinely want to save people. But, people willing to lose millions of dollars for a pat on the back? Do they even exist?
Seriously, Amanda? I’m not allowed to “whine and bitch” about raised taxes until ALL of my luxuries I worked so hard to gain are taken from me, like my internet. Only then can I start complaining? As long as I have enough money to keep my children fed, I should be okay with the rest being taken from me? Look, if the ceiling to my goals was to simply keep my kids fed, I would have skipped going to a University and would be working 30 hours less a week, bitch. I bust my ass MORE than the normal person so that I can enjoy the fruits of my labor MORE than the normal person. How can you believe that everyone should be okay with earning the bare minimum for varying levels of effort and productivity?
My predicted response from Amanda:
“Actually, I think we should just raise taxes even more! Why stop at 40%? Psh, why even stop at 50%? Nay, let’s do 80%! Fuck it, I propose a 100% tax. Just think of how many poor people we could help! We could all live in mediocrity, no matter how hard we work! The American dream!”
Tiny head on a small horse.
The pharaceutacal companies actually love this legislation – which would be clear if you took the time to read anything but headlines and fox new rhetoric.
This bill (which gives us a very unique system, so STFU about canada and the UK) gives the Pharma companies approx 35 million new customers. It also maintained the current restrictions on unique, non-generic forms of high end drugs which is were big pharma makes most of its revenue.
Essentially the profit motive is now even more towards innovation, as the only way to increase revenue when competing with generic competition is create a new type of med or treatment which will be legally protected for the ensuing 12 years.
All this right from a conversation I had with Pfizers VP of external affairs, it seems like he is in favor with the gist of the bill.
You are exactly the rank-and-file crazy person that conservatives count on.
Whats wrong? Complex ideas make your head hurt?
Are you making more than $200,000 a year? If so I think you might be able to handle 3.8% of JUST THE INCOME FROM INVESTMENTS!!! This isn’t money gained from an honest days work, it’s capitol created and destroyed by the market.
But its easier to make up some innane facts and them believe them to be the truth, isn’t it Anthony? God forbid you actually devote a bit of mental energy to…..I don’t know, reading?
But hey, I’m sure you have a great explanation to the 8 million uninsured CHILDREN who would be left out in the cold if you had your druthers.
right?
I’m sorry, where are you getting all these fantasy-driven numbers of yours? From the same Financial Committee that couldn’t even get the numbers behind a “Cash-for-Clunkers” program correct? They fucked that up, and that was probably the simplest plan one could have tried to implement. And now, they are going to implement one of the most entangled and confusing plans in our history. So please, STOP talking these numbers as if it is some sort of inevitable fact just because the Senate Financial Committee says it to be so. Since when has ANY FUCKING PLAN our government tried to implement stayed true to their prediction numbers? Probably never. Medicare went bankrupt, Medicare went bankrupt, Social Security went bankrupt, and they couldn’t get get a fucking “Cash-for-Clunkers” plan right just last year. And now, these same people have just weeded themselves in an even larger portion of our economy.
How you people just sit back and trust these fucking morons with even more of our economy is beyond me.
Yeah Jack, and while he is at it, he can throw your dumb butt out the country too. If you don’t like the direction this country is going, MOVE OUT!!! You will not be missed.
yucka yucka yucka
Sorry for the anal post but can you correct the following:
“The first and most obvious reason is “they have it Europe.”
You’re missing “in” before “Europe”.
It’s the funniest line in the entire post.
One of my favorites.
Thats the most ridculously communist thing I’ve heard today. Albeit I didn’t turn on the news today either.
Of course they are in business to make a freakin’ profit, if there was no profit in it nobody would have insurance. Universal healthcare is a failure everywhere they have it. Just like communism it can’t work. You fruitcakes who always that somebody making a profit on anything is sucking your blood, is the most ignorant and moronic thing I’ve ever heard of.
What makes it even more ironic, is that in the most liberal states in the union, you won’t see liberal do a damn thing to help his own freakin’ neighbor. Yet they wan’t everybody else to pay for all their fruitcake fantasies of what humanity is.
If you had any humanity at all, you and all your ilk would starve to death and stop being a fucking burden to the rest of us doing our damndest to feed our own kids with whats left after you degenerates garnish our wages for your idiotic pipe dreams. You pieces of shit make me sick. Peddle your communist propaganda somewhere else fruitcake.
If we move, whose gonna be left to pay the taxes that feed your dumb ass??? Didn’t think that one through did u dipshit?
You a physciatrist? pull somebody else’s chain fruitcake, you are a fucking idiot.
You are one stupid bitch, not surprising since you are a liberal fruitcake. Why don’t you shut your cockwasher, and think, dumbass. Every nickle taken out of my pocket for your ilks idiotic communist bullshit, would otherwise go to provide a better life for my kids.
I certainly hope you don’t reproduce, you aren’t smart enough to handle that kind of responsibility. You dumb fucks stand there with your freakin’ hands out, crying gimme, thinking thats the only thing you can do with them. That and play with yourselves.
Where the fuck were your parents when they should have been teaching you that you could earn more in a day than anybody and everybody is going to give you in a week???
You aren’t “entiteled” to a damn thing you degenerate cocksucker. It really chaps my ass, that wages earned by my effort get garnished to feed pieces of shit like you.
You are exactly the rank and file degenerate fruitcake, that liberals depend on to get them elected. completely unwilling to do for your fucking selves, you look around for whoever has anything, because your ilk think they should be foreced to give you something just because they have the audacity to go out and earn it.
You and all your ilk are so fucking stupid, yet still fascistly believe, you got two braincells to rub together.
hey hay!! absinthe is legal here!
No illegal comes here just for medical care? As an RN who works in acute dialysis care can ROTFLMAO explain to me why I provide dialysis to 1-3 illegals, 3x week, for the past 5y.(I have been told by them that Mexico wont do it) I work at a company in Nashville Tn., if we treat 1-3 patients 3x week how many other companies in this and other states are doing the same thing? Oh yes, and how is this paid for? This is just one example of why U.S. health care costs (Read: “overpriced) are so high.
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Now what are you pickle smooching fruitcakes gonna do for free healthcare?!?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-mount-dora-doctor-tells-patients-go-aw20100401,0,6040296,full.story
So by extension black people like dying because they cant afford ridiculous healthcare premiums? And that theres no non white people in the civilised world (because of course america’s the only one without free healthcare….)
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I’m back. I did think that one out Greg, and my answer is, I willl pay my own way. That’s what you do when you’re a man. I guess you officially feel like the fool that you are. If not, well, you should.
yucka yucka yucka
what a shithead, if you paid your own way dumbass what reason would you have to be a fucking liberal??
the only reason to be a liberal is because you think your gonna get something somebody else earned for nothing.
Viagra originated from an attempt to create hypertension medication. Lowered blood pressure just happens to help out in the “erectile dysfunction” area. That’s why they advise people with hypotension (low blood pressure) not to take it.
So yes, they DO make efforts to cure life-threatening disease.
As for Prozac? Really? Depression’s a made-up disease? What kind of world are you living in?
Your Momma! I have my own moron, more than your trailer park living butt. There is NOTHING wrong with free healthcare. Heck, Free education at STATE institutuions is also a good idea as long as the students qualify scholastically. But I guess you think that is wrong too.
yucka yucka yucka
I have no desire for free heath care what so ever. If you cant afford health care that is not my problem. Comparing a free democracy( what is left of it) to a comunist dictatorship is beyond wrong. I hate micheal moore. May he rot for eternity.
WOW. Could you really get over yourself? It’s not like the world is going to end if we get universal healthcare.
“Universal healthcare is a failure everywhere they have it. Just like communism it can’t work.”
I would like to make two points that have really bothered me about conservative arguments. First, universal healthcare does work, as the US is the only modernized democracy without it. While it may be more inefficient, it is still in place, and it still works. Second, try telling the Chinese that Communism doesn’t work, because it seems to be going pretty dandy for them.
Also, Hawaii has universal healthcare, and most of the people there really like it.
“If you had any humanity at all, you and all your ilk would starve to death and stop being a fucking burden to the rest of us”
So conservatives are going to make a woman go through with a pregnancy just so that they can tell the babies once they have grown up and developed their own ideas to kill themselves? Oh, wait, you would only want liberal babies to die.
“you won’t see liberal do a damn thing to help his own freakin’ neighbor”
Again, please don’t generalize about liberals’ characters. That’s like me saying that all conservatives are ignorant, uneducated, selfish tools. And while I do know some conservative tools, I also know a lot of nice conservatives. Maybe you have had some really bad experiences with liberals, but please don’t say that all liberals are bad people.
I understand that universal healthcare is going to be a burden financially on a lot of people. But please don’t say that people who want it don’t care. On the contrary, they are doing it because they care, but aren’t able to see all of the far-reaching effects yet. In fact, NO ONE knows what the consequences or benefits will be yet, unless someone would like to come forward as being a psychic.
We all just do what we think is right. It’s okay to disagree, but please don’t make judgements on people’s character from their views.
“what a shithead, if you paid your own way dumbass what reason would you have to be a fucking liberal?? the only reason to be a liberal is because you think your gonna get something somebody else earned for nothing.”
Um, no. People are also liberals because they care about their fellow countrymen and women, or because they want to end generational poverty, or so that people can get more freedom in their personal lives. I am in the upper-middle class, so I will be one of the people paying for things like universal healthcare, but I support it because I think it’s right. You should notice that a number of very well-educated, wealthy people are liberals, but there are plenty of poor conservatives. So using your logic, the only reason to be a conservative is because you are rich and don’t give a shit about anyone else. But it sounds like you wouldn’t understand caring about other people, so I guess I will have to give you a break.
you are a fucking idiot, “care about your fellow countrymen”, what kind of bullshit is that when you vote to steal the food out of the kids mouths of the people desperately busting their ass to feed them, in order to feed a bunch of degenerates who think they deserve it?!
you fascist leftwingnuts fantasize that the anonymity provided by the internet can hide the fact that you really aren’t as much of a dumbfuck as you sound.
All you degnerate fruitcakes are so drunk on stupid juice you wouldn’t know reality if it walked up and introduced itself.
I can’t believe how unbelievable stupid you are Rachel. You liberal fruitcakes have such an ass backwards view of reality its no freakin’ wonder you depend on the efforts of others to survive.
Universal healthcare does not work. your fruitcake fantasy that just because other countries have it, it must work, is as ignorant an assumption as any I’ve heard. The only people that are happy with universal healthcare have never had anything else you fucking moron.
Why don’t those stupid cunts in your story, develope some self respect and personal responsibility, and either cross their legs, or avail themselves of the myriad of birth control options available to them before giving their ass away all over town and then forcing everybody with a sense of personal responsibility to raise not only their own kids but yours too?!?
What the fuck is wrong with your ignorant pieces of shit?!?! Any cocksucker that votes for a liberal is a fucking moron. You can pretend your not to fit into the crowd you hang with, but don’t kid yourself, you are a fucking moron.
I can’t believe how unbelievable stupid you are Greg. You conservative fruitcakes have such an ass backwards view of reality its no freakin’ wonder you depend on bullshit to get your point across.
Universal healthcare does work dumbass. Your fruitcake fantasy that just because other countries have it, it must not work, is as ignorant an assumption as any I’ve heard. The only people that are unhappy with universal healthcare are fucking morons who are scared that it will benefit non-whites.
Why don’t those stupid cunts in your ilk, develope some respect and personal responsibility, and either shut the fuck up, or take the dick out your ass and mouth and stop pretending to be something you are not. You are not a tough guy, you are not smart, you are not rich, you are just a computer blowhard that is full of shit.
What the fuck is wrong with your ignorant pieces of shit?!?! Any cocksucker that votes for a conservative is a fucking moron. You can pretend your not to fit into the crowd you hang with, but don’t kid yourself, you are a fucking moron. Play your part Greg, you play stupid very well. Keep up the good work dumbass.
“its no freakin’ wonder you depend on the efforts of others to survive.”
I don’t depend on anyone else. I am in the middle-class, I pay taxes, I have healthcare provided by my employer. With universal healthcare, I will be the one paying for others. Yet, I realize others just can’t afford it, and I am committed to ending generational poverty. If someone is irresponsible, then yes, they don’t deserve help. But, as in most cases, people are suffering because of some other factor, like they don’t have access to a good education, then we need to give them a hand. And I believe that no one should lose their home because their kid gets really sick and they don’t get health insurance from their employer.
“Universal healthcare does not work. your fruitcake fantasy that just because other countries have it, it must work, is as ignorant an assumption as any I’ve heard. ”
I didn’t say that it will work. I said that it CAN work, in response to your statement that universal healthcare doesn’t work. What evidence do you have that universal healthcare won’t work in the US? That’s right, none.
“The only people that are happy with universal healthcare have never had anything else you fucking moron.”
Which is the same reason you are afraid of universal healthcare. You don’t like it because you have never known anything else, and just because you like the way things are now, it must be bad to change it in any way.
“what kind of bullshit is that when you vote to steal the food out of the kids mouths of the people desperately busting their ass to feed them, in order to feed a bunch of degenerates who think they deserve it?!”
I have never voted for poor people to help other poor people, I have voted for higher income taxes, and I promise you the people who pay more under those taxes are not busting their asses to feed their family. If anything, they are busting their asses to pay for their third yacht.
I think that every employer who hires a person full-time should be mandated to have to pay for health insurance. Those people aren’t “degenerates,” they just don’t have good jobs. But that’s their only option.
You just can’t accept the fact that there are people who aren’t as fortunate as you who work just as hard or harder than you. If poverty was based solely on a person’s own work ethic and responsibility, then I would agree, but there are SO many other factors. You need to realize the world isn’t black and white.
Also, I really don’t think you realize the meaning of fascist. Because if anything, this MIGHT be considered “socialist” at worst, but has nothing to do with fascist. Come talk to me when you get an education.
I find it very amusing you call yourself “Greg’s smarter half”.
All you said was a dozen curse words and assorted insults.
The last thing we need is to stoop to Greg’s level, so please shut up, you’re making the intelligent people who support healthcare look bad.
Hey Kedric, shut the fuck up you bleeding heart, panty waist lil punk!!! Your dumbass didn’t realize I just c/p what he wrote and put a twist on his words. You’re the type of guy that greg is talking about and he is correct to be talking about you the way he do. Take your little panty waist ass some where and shut the fuck up. You lil pickle smooching, nutt hugging bitch.
you white people crack me up
this is stupid.
i do not know one white person who enjoys socialized helath care or any other socialist program for that matter.
Minorities are the people who enjoy socialized health care because then they get free health care for doing nothing but messing up society. (and i’m not saying all members of minority groups do this.)
Alexa needs a socialized dick in her big mouth!
Har har.
Um, wow Alexa. First, I’m white, and I agree with universal health care. Second, that is a very racist statement, I’m embarrassed for you. Who says it’s minorities messing up America? We all do a pretty good job of it.
I don’t think you realize what you’re saying. Just because you are white and probably have never been in the situation a lot of poor people are in, doesn’t mean they don’t work hard. In fact, they probably work harder than the middle and upper classes, because they have to find a way to take care of themselves. There are a number of white people who agree with Obama’s plans, so leave your generalizations in your head.
Your statement is unbelievable and offensive, and you most likely belong in the 1950s Jim Crow South. You really need to rethink your beliefs and racial stereotypes, because if you said that to someone with a conscious in person, you would most likely get slapped. Just saying.
Well said Har Har. Alexa, I’m free after 7.
You don’t wait in line for an MRI under single payer.
Yeah… because no one uses the U.S. Postal Service, public schools, or the fire department…
I don’t know where you live, but maybe you should try traveling. It might correct your extremely narrow and incorrect worldview.
You couldn’t be more right Alexa. There are also a lot of white ppl that don’t pay there taxes supporting alll that socialism to. Many are in obaMao’s cabinet.
Those of us that do pay taxes are naturally gonna be disgruntled in having the food taken out of our kids mouths to subsidize degenerates and illegals.
Fascist leftwingnuts on this board and anywhere really, try to paint disagreement with failed socialist policies as “racist” because they think we care enough about what they think that whatever they wanna call it is gonna bother us.
I don’t know about you but I gave up a long time ago in trying to give any leftist idiot credit for any kind of ability to reason.
Kedric, what is most amusing about your post is that you think there are any intelligent ppl that support obaMao’s healthcare takeover.
Just like anything obaMao has done since he’s been in office, your presumption of being intelligent is just as absurd.
Rachel you are a fucking idiot, I have lived and worked all over the world, in several countries that did have universal health care, and have experienced it first hand in some of the same countries you pretend are very happy with it. I found it completely lacking and in a couple of instances downright horrifying. Look around you fruitcake, every socialist country in the world is failing. Failing because of your degenerate ilks fantasies of welfare state policies do somebody some good, when the evidence all around you proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the fantasy of it, isnt the reality in practice.
You may need help to pull your head out of your ass, and accept facts for what they are instead of what your “fascist” ilk want to believe them to be.
You may also need to re-examine your excuse for an education and find out where and how it is lacking that makes you so fucking stupid.
Unlike you I don’t talk though my ass like some enlightened nutjob that thinks just saying so makes it so. The proof is in the pudding shithead. It doesn’t matter how much make up you put on a pig, its still just a pig.
Hi Greg,
I live in England and happen to work for the office of national statistics.
Put simply, America’s healthcare is a global embarassment and ranks about 40 in the world in terms of quality even though you spend considerably more per head than much of Europe.
Your taxes already subsidise drug companies even though they are in the private sector and make astronomical profits. The Obamacare plan will shift this and uses the money the US taxpayer is already paying to provide care for Americans who currently can’t afford it. This will, realistically over about a 20 year timeframe, actually lower costs as there will be more people in the system. The math really isn’t rocket science, nor is the plan a Stalinitst threat.
My complaint about Obamacare is that your president pandered to idiots like yourself and didn’t give America proper universal healthcare
I’m not sure where in the world you lived and worked, but there are very few countries that are actually socialist.
You should probably do your research on global healthcare and socialism before you post such ignorant, ill-informed nonsense.
Now please fuck off!
Kind regards
Shal
Hey Shalom,
You are a genious, the only critique I will give you is simply, Why waste pearls on swine? Greg is a lump on a frog’s turd and is not worth the time of day. Other than that, GREAT POST!!!!
Your obnoxious – P.S. white people in the U.S. strongly appose universal health care
I wonder what the statistics are of properly conjugating the second person personal of the English language? Here’s a hint, unless the subject possesses obnoxious (which you certainly do) you probably meant to shorten “you are obnoxious”.
To your other sentence fragment. This is now a misunderstanding about basic statistics. My friend, you suffer from both observer bias and sampling bias.
Meaning you see in the world what you seek, and the individuals around you don’t represent the whole.
Amazing what a little grammar and math can do huh?
I’m sure I pay more taxes than you do Greg old boy.
By the way, if you live in a state that grows a lot of corn…..Welcome to the welfare state! You’ve been there all along!
The 10 states that pay the most into the federal budget are “liberal states” (NY,CA, CN….. places that make $$) also receive the least. The 10 states that receive the most are all “conservative states” (giant farmland) and they pay the least.
I’m all about your policies, and I think the mid-west can give New York our money back, we can fix it ourselves, and you guys can go figure it out.
Genius – something that upsets both those against universal healthcare and those for it.
One of the worst this site has – rather than cutting to the heart of an issue to show the funny side, it merely throws out the same old tosh “Herhereh Michael Moore” which is a parody as much of itself as the liberal elite it tries to show.
My political beliefs are of little concern – for I merely know that in the UK, when I’m ill I will be taken care of and my children will go to school, and for that I am happy.
I just love it when some dipshit liberal fruitcake, rolls out some “statistics” to support some ignorant point on the leftwingnut agenda.
all you do is illustrate just how completely and unjustifiably ignorant your ilk are. With just a modicum of common sense you would see how *your* own statistics don’t hold the water you want it to.
Your baffle ’em with bullshit technique was worn out back during the clintoon/gore fiasco. While you continue to struggle to find your ass with both hands…. I’m gonna let ya.
You can live with your head stuck up your ass, I don’t care. lol
@Shalom, I’m glad you have found gainful employment. As lacking in mental faculties as your posts illustrates plainly that you are, you don’t seem to fit the criteria for holding a job. As for what you do there at your place of employment, I notice you necassarily left that out. Good call!
“Few countries that are actually socialist”, are you for real?? or just completely stupid?? The majority of Europe is collapsing under the debt of socialist welfare systems that are not only not sustainable, but the crushing debt created by those same socialist wefare state policies that obaMao is embracing threaten the entire world with economic collapse.
You have no idea what its like to go to the doctor and get treated for whatever ails you with the best technology and medicine the world has to offer, because its not available to you. You will have to take comfort in the knowledge that after we repeal obaMaocare, and do some tort reform, it will be vastly more affordable and accesible to many, even your dumb ass.
It becomes clearer and clearer to me that you fruitcakes *have* to believe a certain set of criteria that in reality just isn’t true to advocate leftwingnut ideology. You may need to review the very corner stones of your ideological religion to have any hope of ever pulling your head out of your ass.
Good luck with that!
Wow Greg, you are such a dumbass. You must not know the feeling of going to a good doctor yourself, because if you did, you would have better things to do with your time than to come on this site and talk STUPIDITY.
Why do I call you stupid, let me count the ways.
1. You are defending a system that is screwing people left and right. Years before Obama, American healthcare was a JOKE, and guess what, it still is. Only Obama is working on changing that. It’s dumbass hillbillies like yourself who are too stupid to realize he is helping you and your ilk out in the long run.
2. You have the wit of a casket in a baby’s funeral. NONE. I have heard more funnier things floating in the toilet.
3. If you are crying about taking food out your kids mouths due to healthcare, you basically are telling us that you CAN’T afford it and that you are living paycheck to paycheck.
4. I see why your WHITE wife dumped your dumbass, now you’re married to an asian blow-up doll, and you think you are king of the world.
I will keep it at four for now, I don’t want to overwhelm you SON.
Unlike most of the Obamatards I went to art school with (Art School being THE white person’s destination of choice in 1991), I did NOT vote for change. Free Health Care…Barack Hussein Obama,,,MMM MMM MMM!!! Wake me when its 2012. Call me crazy but I never thought it was up to my neighbors to pay for my health care. If you want to help those who can’t afford health care, great. But you don’t do it the way Bammy, Pelosi and Reid did it. And it STILL doesn’t cover everyone, and if you like your healthcare plan you do NOT get to keep it. Just ask any Verizon employee. And if you disagree with me, you’re a racist homophobe who eats little baby seals and chops down virgin timber and, GASP, doesn’t shop at a COOP!!!
Mark, that was spoken like a true narrow minded dumbass. The rest of the world believes in preventative health care. Keep people healthy, and healthcare stays cheaper. America believes in DRUGS. There is a pill for every occasion and that is just pathetic. I have great healthcare so I don’t need “Obamacare”, but my head is not shoved so far up my butt that I don’t see that there are alot of people who work hard and do everything right who do not have access to it. I think there should be healthcare for ALL Americans. Yes, I know there are some people who would benifit from it who don’t deserve it, or better yet, have not earned it, BUT, it is still better than what we have now.
Maybe I am just blind. Maybe I should adopt the philosophy of “Get sick and Die”. Maybe I am too nice. Sky high medical bills that just keep getting higher is not that bad a thing. Co-pays that creep up every year is ok. I should feel all warm and fuzzy about doing everthing right to stay healthy just to go to the grocery store and catch somebody else illness because they don’t have healthcare to go to the doctor and leave from work to stay home and nurse their ailment. Yep, I think I am going to change my mind on my stand on healthcare for all. Instead of spending alittle bit of money to help keep everyone healthy, I will just continue to enjoy spending ALOT of money trying to keep myself healthy.
I think I am a true conservative republican now. I see the light.
Good luck with that!!
@Enigra and his various aliases, keep apologizing for obaMao, it looks good on you.
Whatever you do, I hope you turn on the tube today. As seeing for yourself the overwhelming rejection of obaMao, and all his leftwingnut, fruitcake, ass kissing policies.
The moment of clarity this brings to you, fills my heart with glee in hopes that you finally fill your cockwasher with that pistol.
Last time I checked, I have yet to read any apologies for the action of OUR President. Matter of fact, all I have seen is blowhard conservatives getting pumped up the butt with no vaseline. They say it is better to give than to recieve and now I really understand why. Seeing you on the receiving end of the gloryhole is not a sexy look Greg, but, it’s a good look for YOU.
PS……. When I turn on the t.v to channels other than FOX, I see OUR President getting ready to kick some behind. I could careless what some bitter rightwing losers feel about him. LOL
Anybody catch that feckless moron currently squatting in the White House today??
claiming his ass kissing foreign policy has netted the toughest sanctions against Iran ever?!? What a douchebag.
and he is looking for somebodies ass to kick, over the oil spill in the gulf?!?
Trying to re-sell obaMaocare with a $250 government check to seniors, knowing the rising tide to repeal that idiotic mess threatens to throw his ass out of office in November.
If last nites elections are any indication, the entire country is starting to realize that obaMao isn’t the savior of the world, but the feckless, incompetent, inept, in over his head negro I’ve been saying he was since the moment he was elected.
November can’t come soon enough, I expect after the tea party throws all the bastards out in November, and obaMao is derailed if not thrown out of office, things will finally start to look up again. xD
Hey Greg, til that day comes, deal with the fact that what Obama says still goes so STFU!!! I guess your lil trip to dizznee land (crackpipe) made you feel like your smart, well reality is your still dumb as a dog’s behind (no offence to dog’s butts though). LOL xD
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Greg, I hear you my brother. I cannot understand for the life of me why anyone would back any of Obama & Co.’s misinformed and misguided decisions. The healthcare system in America is in shambles, I agree with this. However, I disagree with the notion that Obamacare is the best option. Speedy and effective (not to mention efficient) healthcare is what we need. Obama’s proposal would strain the hell out of our system and it would take weeks to get appointments. Even worse, ER visits would take hours. It’s downright frightening envisioning those scenarios. Obama is a socialist-wannabe. That should be added to the Stuff White People Like list: Socialism.
Hi Justin,
You are full of it just like your”brother” Greg, full of crap adn double talk. Let us examine your words for a second shall we…….
“Greg, I hear you my brother. I cannot understand for the life of me why anyone would back any of Obama & Co.’s misinformed and misguided decisions.”
Anyone as in who???? I can think of someone who would back “Obamacare”, someone who doesn”t have health insurance. Show me one person who is sick or disabled in the streets fighting healthcare reform.
“The healthcare system in America is in shambles, I agree with this. However, I disagree with the notion that Obamacare is the best option.”
Ok, what do you suggest?
“Speedy and effective (not to mention efficient) healthcare is what we need.”
Oh, I never would have thought of that!! You are wise beyond your years. I have been hearing this same song for how many years??? The tune never changes with you and your ilk.
” Obama’s proposal would strain the hell out of our system and it would take weeks to get appointments. Even worse, ER visits would take hours. It’s downright frightening envisioning those scenarios.”
And you know this how????? Better yet, with your worse case scenario, what would be the difference between then and NOW??? With good healthcare, a visit to the doctor for a checkup is an all day event. It is funny to me how you can sit and “envision” those nightmare scenarios, yet, you can not “envision” a single solution to this problem. Just like your “brother” Greg, you are just a no idea having, bitter whiteman who is complaining just to hear the sound of your own voice. Give change a chance for once.
“Obama is a socialist-wannabe. That should be added to the Stuff White People Like list: Socialism.”
Maybe STFU should be added to Stuff White People Should Do list when they spead stupid opinions about what our President is doing for the people. I challenge you and Greg to this, find me one legit sick person at a anti-Obamacare rally. Show me where people in wheel chairs are blocking the streets in opposition to healtcare reform. Show me a sick and elderly person fighting the power. You show me someone who is in dire need of healthcare who hates Obamacare, and I will STFU and listen to everything they have to say. Til then, I will just call you a blowhard moron just like your Zero, Greg.
In another shocker to nobody but enigra… obaMao-care suddenly and completely expectedly raises insurance premiums and delivers nothing….
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10971283
the funny thing about enigra’s feckless, incompetent, in over his head, negro in chief is, fewer and fewer ppl are afraid of being called racist for agreeing that moron squatting in the White House doesn’t have nor ever had a clue….
xDDDDDD
In another shocker to nobody but enigra… obaMao-care suddenly and completely expectedly raises insurance premiums and delivers nothing….
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=10971283
the funny thing about enigra’s feckless, incompetent, in over his head, negro in chief is, fewer and fewer ppl are afraid of being called racist for agreeing that moron squatting in the White House doesn’t have nor ever had a clue….
xDDDDDD
gotta wonder what kinda stupid juice obaMao apologists are drinking to *still* believe he isn’t as feckless and incompetent as the rest of the world knows him to be…..
Well, I know what juice they are NOT sipping on Greg. That man juice you enjoy sucking on , you know, thru the man straw with two ice cubes on the side. We know you sip on them every night.
Good luck with that, not that you need it. I heard you’re a pro.
Another shocker to nobody but the panty wearing, nut hugging, obaMao apologists, due to that feckless, incompetent, in over his head negro, ass clown, squatting in the White House’s healthcare mess, the sick are being turned away……
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/106887-health-law-risks-turning-away-sick
Now where did I hear that before??? Wasn’t it conservatives telling you fruitcakes before hand that this was going to be a result of that fiscally irresponsible, and unsustainable approach before it was passed???? xDDDDD
Don’t you fruitcakes ever get tired of always being wrong about everything????
Here’s another I told you so moment for all the panty wearing, obaMao apologist/fluffers, obaMaocare causing long waits at ER’s and crowding……XXXXDDDDDDD
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100702/ap_on_bi_ge/us_med_er_crowding_8
sounds like rationing care doesn’t it???? You fruitcakes need a to take a gut check moment and realize that your idiotic feeeeelings aren’t a good source to push policy….
I’m wondering why producing, *good, clean, envirowhacko friendly energy*, has never proposed this as an obviouse solution to our dependence on foriegn oil…..
large hamster wheels for ppl to run on, connected to a generator that charges the batteries in your electric car, house, appliances, ect… ect… ect….
With unemployment at record lvls, illigal immigration unabated, and human hamster wheels almost an entirely unregulated….. this IS the future of the green wave….
get entirely off the grid, or sell your extra energy back to the grid….
Its also the answer to the fat ass epidemic, and will dramatically reduce healthcare costs by guaranteeing energy demands are met with actual physical excercise……
or for the most green fruitcakes among us, they can get special cards allowing them to barter the extra energy they produce for the gov’t cheese they recieve!!!!
*WIN WIN WIN* xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
With as feckless and incompetent an ass clown as we have squatting in the White House right now, I don’t see how he could possibly overlook the possibilities…… more reliable and cost effective than wind energy, the job opportunities in this new *tech* guaranteeing more employment than the WW2 war effort, these jobs are available now……
Easily sellable to the public by showing him, his fat ass wife, and kids actively doing their part to power the White House, on live TV……. xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
In another shocker to nobody… obaMao-care suddenly and completely expectedly raises insurance premiums and delivers nothing…
why not???
Oooohhhh What a surprise to nobody but fascist, leftwingnut, obaMao fluffers…..
obaMao care leads to high risk patients being turned away because of cost…….
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/106887-health-law-risks-turning-away-sick
The only thing changed by obaMao-care, is they’ve kept the worst of the old system and instituted a way for *them* to profit from limiting healthcare….
Cutting themselves a slice of profits, not only from industry execs, but primarily from the people needing the care……
How do you fruitcakes like them apples……. sounds like I told you so to me… xDDDDDD
Oh dammit!!! another obaMao promise nothing more than what the fruitcakes wanted to hear, the reality is still what everybody on the right was telling you douchebags all along…..
http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/106887-health-law-risks-turning-away-sick
xDDDDDD
Oooohhh Noooo!!!!! obaMao healthcare Czar and expert on rationing!! XDDDDD
Unable to pass muster from senate confirmation, obaMao makes him a ‘recess appointment’….
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/07/president-obama-to-make-recess-appointment-of-cms-administrator-republicans-attacking-as-expert-on-r.html
The reality of obaMao’s healthcare debacle is showing the right was right all along..XDDDDD
While you fruitcakes envisioned the same healthcare we have now, only free…… the reality of it is showing you just how stupid you are for believing the hype as we have been telling you, you are all along… XDDDDDDDDD
Thank you so much for making me a partner in the murder of your unborn children you degenerate, cocksucking, pieces of shit!!!!
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/69384
Hey Greg,
Your a moron!
Good luck with that!!
What a bummer, obaMao paid $700k in American taxpayer money to get Andy Griffith to say his socialist take over of medical care in America is a good thing….
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sheriff_taylor_health_pitch_sparks_IO4A3hqygAspuyCVuzzCNO
The overwhelming majority of Americans realize obaMao care is a nothing but a federal takeover of private industry that delivers nothing and costs more…
Corrupting the image of an American Icon like Sheriff Andy Taylor with his fruitcake pipedream just makes me feel dirty for sharing the same air in the same country as that ass clown, squatting in the white house….
Here is a bit of good news for you Greg, I will call you a DUMBASS for free. If you don’t like the way things are going in this great country, take your butt to Canada, otherwise, STFU IDIOT!!!!!!!
‘bamacare at work… subsidized pot for the poor!!
http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/dc/in-dc-no-such-thing-as-too-poor-for-medical-pot-080510
he’s also currently working on subsidizing crack for the poorest of his supporters…
He’s just having a hard time trying to sell it to the rest of us… xDDD
Get yer, “sick of me yet?” gear here!!
http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff/7233074
xDDDD
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You couldn’t be more wrong.. You must live in Portland.
wtf?? i’m a cracker n i dont like free healthcare n fuck obama!
In a shocker to nobody but fascist leftwingnuts that supported that ‘bamacare mess, death panels are becoming the reality the rest of us always told you fruitcakes it would… xDDDDD
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/7948878/US-breast-cancer-drug-decision-marks-start-of-death-panels.html
how does the tin foil hat crowd like their free healthcare now????
this is just the beggining, it only gets worse from here… xDDDD
Greg, hate to inform you, but all the things you link to and talk about regarding the health care initiative are the same things that have been going on for decades in the private industry. Private insurance companies have always denied treatments and turned away people. Is obama care better? not really. Is it worse? not really. Just more of the same as it ever was… get a grip on reality.
@DT, chuckle, there is nothing wrong with my grip on reality little buddy, you may want to re-evaluate yours…
if you imagine in your wildest dreams that a government take over of 1/6th of the economy isn’t clearly worse than staying the hell out of it, you are clearly out of your mind.
the single best thing the government could have done yet didn’t, was and is tort reform… failing that, there is nothing the government can do that isn’t going to make healthcare as we know it decidedly worse, and more expensive for everybody, while delivering nothing worthwhile…
While I’m sure your ilk support a public option, that, like communism, isn’t reported for the failures that they are everywhere they’ve been tried in the places you get your “information” from….
so… pour yourself another tall glass of that fruitcake flavored kool-aid, and good luck with that!! 😀
lol, anyone who thinks letting corporations decide whether you live or die is probably just a psycho libertarian who thinks money solves everything
classical liberals (libertarians) and Conservatives usally score really high on the RWA scale (right wing authoritarian scale) this usually involves denying the obvious truth that the average European and Canadian are better off than the average american, not liking poor people and or minorities and gays. Also they tend to be closet far rightest national socialists or blackshirts,zionists,brownshirts,neo fascists, authoritarian commies,uber capitalist maoists,romani guard hmm shall I go on
rightists and libertarians(classical liberals) usually score high on the RWA(right wing authoritarian scale.) Also they deny the average western euro or canadian is better off.
I was just watching Greta on the only name in News, Fox News, and got an impressive chubby to find out that even my fascist leftwingnut blue state is part of the 20 states filing a lawsuit against feckless, incompetent care and the federal government for trying to take over 1/6 of the economy….
I am so pleased that this fascist leftwingnut assault on individual liberty, Freedom, and the rights of all Americans, doesn’t have to wait until November to be thrown out like the garbage it is…..
While fruitcakes fantasize that fascist leftwingnut ideology, is somehow “caring” for anybody but the nutbags imposing it on everybody…. I gotta wonder just how any individual could con himself let alone anybody else that the reality of feckless, incompetent care wasn’t the absolute catastrophe its lived up to be, that the majority knew it to be beforehand…..
I got a not so impressive one-inch chubby tonight watching Bill O’Reilly on the only name in News, Fox News tonight…. Watching that man makes me hotter than the forth of July!!!! It appears that even my fascist leftwingnut state has joined 19 other states in filing suit against the Federal government and feckless, incompetent care…..xDDDDDD
I was also pleased to find out that my state of fruitcakes, flakes, envirowhackos, nutbags is in the toss up column as far as patty murray, (voted dumbest senator twice), is not a shoe in for re-election…. xDDDDD
I guess the reality of that hopey changey thing wasn’t what these fruitcakes around here figured it was….. xDDDDDD
fruit cakes i find offensive, since im bi, fascism is a right wing ideology (that was my point ya retard) I was saying that people the the clown and the dildo queen are Fascist. Remeber that hitler oppressed labor, was racist and hated gays, hmm kinda like Reagan, america is a right wing proto fascist country and you are a complete fucking idiot for thing fascism is left wing when most academic heads have the consensus that it is far to the right, oh and by the way, us in the east cost, we have hot slim city girls and men while you have morbidly obese neo nazis in motorized wheelchairs voting republican while using welfare. Are women and men are WAYYY hotter than you over represented fly overs that only have 2 inbred people living in your states. Also fox news is laughed on in the academic world, so thats proof its all bullshit (remember there are conservatives (some who I know who think fox news is bullshit)
@Jeremy Bornstein…. you are indeed a fruitcake and an uneducated one at that numbnuts…
I always love how you fruitcakes refuse to believe Nazi’s were the National socialist party that they were and were indeed fascists in that regard, much like obaMao and his supporters are now…..
I believe it was Bernard Goldberd who wrote a brilliant book on liberal fascism, with the same name…. might wanna check it out inbetween cock gobbling sessions….
I’m also amused by you fruitcakes running to your sacred cow of “acedemia” in a vain effort to justify your ilks illegitimate claim to superiority over everybody else….
Just look at the abject failure of acedemia in the face of common sense pretending to be running the country now??? Explain how fascist leftwingnuts consider themselves “educated” and “elite” when your ilks best laid plans have led to the highest poverty rate in more than a generation… an unsustainable national debt… feckless incompetence explain that fruitcake….
Unlike fruitcakes like you, I have lived in a lot of places, east coast, west coast, down south and up north, I’ve lived in Europe twice for about 6 years, spent 10 years between Japan and South Korea, a year in Afghanistan, and 6 mos. in Iraq….. I share that to illustrate just how ridiculouse your idiotic claims of some kind of regional superiority are…..
anybody, anywhere, that embraces your ideological world view doesn’t have a grasp on reality. Even your feckless, incompetent, in over his head negro, ass clown, squatting in the White House now realizes your ilks fascist leftwingnut agenda, is an abject failure… Evidenced by his begging Republicans and conservatives to come together with dems and figure out why he can’t fix the economy, or anything else….
You fruitcakes are the problem, not the solution to anything…
So… good luck with that!! 😀
Actually, Gregaliscious, it’s people like you who are ruining this country. It’s clear you lack perspective and any semblance of understanding (as evidenced by your citing Bernard Goldberg as anything but a deluded fool).
For example, you refuse to acknowledge that it was your people whose misguided policies racked up more than $6 trillion in debt, under Bush, and that Obama is only responsible with $1 trillion – all of which is meant to save the economy.
And the economy is not fixed yet. Why? Bush left a huge mess to clean up, and the residual effects are long reaching. The stimulus arrested the tide, but in order to reduce unemployment more stimulus is required. About $1 trillion more.
Anyone with any understanding of economics can see this. But not you. You and your people don’t understand the world, and you’re bound and determined to drown in your own idiocy. Ordinarily, you’d be free to do this – however, when you’re taking down the rest of this hardworking country on account of your own superstitions, you are crossing a line.
If the Republicans win this November, don’t be surprised when the entire country seizes up and suffers as a result. They can’t fix anything. They can only destroy. Your kind are parasites, eating at the nation’s foundation – a termite at Versailles. Intelligent social policy and a regulated economy are this nation’s only hope now – down all other paths lie doom.
But go ahead. People get the government they deserve. Elect the Republicans and see what happens.
Last time they won, well, America turned out no better for the wear – did it?
Greg is just w homophobe, he would of loved hitler, most people in academia agree on the consensus that ns regime is far to the right, infact texas has the most parties of them in the world, don’t believe me go the southern poverty website, its a activism sight against the far right
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
i will admit I am bi, but hey I can have more fun, and it makes me more tolerant of others, I wish to move to the Netherlands actually, according to the hdi and newsweek they rank above the usa in human development and quality of life, I really doubt you lived in Europe, my grandmother is austrian and fleed the nazis because we used to be jewish. But she speaks German and has many friends who are euro as well and are very left wing. Yes I am a bit of a socialist, but I and they are not nationalist which is far right. don’t listen to the dildo queen or the clown because they are not experts in the matter. They kind of remind me of the propaganda of Gobbles or the newspapers in the fatherland front, which is right wing national nazisms, so please don’t lecture me , I know what nazism is ,, my grand mother is a holocaust surviver and my family died because of nazi’s like you.
Health care isn’t being distroyed by high insurance rates. It’s being distroyed by money hungry lawyers who don’t give a DAMN!!! about anything except how to make the next payment on that million dollar mansion or that $250,000 sports car. If it’s not so then why are 90% of all politicians in DC Lawyers and why are half the comercials on tv some lawyer trying to convence us we have somesort of right to take someone for all they’ve got. What people don’t seem to understand is that lawsutes effects us all. It dives up the cost of just about every thing we buy and With HIGHER INSURANCE RATES!!! Doctors are having to pay higher and higher premiums every year just to stay in business, which means, for all of you STUPID Obama care supporters, HIGHER INSURANCE RATES!!! which are past on to… FYI, All of us. Go figure. Anyone STUPID!!! enough to believe Obama care will be the answer to all our health care problems is exactly that STUPID!!!!! If you want free health care then maybe you should go to Canada where their government taxes more then half their paychecks. And trust me the heath care their is not only NOT FREE, but NOT AS GOOD.
And for all you STUPID people intent on throwing my spelling and grammatical errors back in my face don’t bother. All that will prove is you can’t find any real flaws in my opinion. Which by the way is the opinion of the true main stream. If the true main stream ever stoped being so damned afraid of all you STUPID bed wetting Liberals accusing them of having some sort of phobeia or being racest you would know this. Liberals, the Liberial media, and Hollywood are the true terrorest. they disguise themsleves via their money and their fame. And if they got none of these they do it by accusations.
Don’t worry I’ll be back. I’m just gettin started.
And for all you STUPID people intent on throwing my spelling and grammatical errors back in my face don’t bother. All that will prove is you can’t find any real flaws in my opinion. Which by the way is the opinion of the true main stream. If the true main stream ever stoped being so damned afraid of all you STUPID bed wetting Liberals accusing them of having some sort of phobeia or being racest you would know this. Liberals, the Liberial media, and Hollywood are the true terrorest. they disguise themsleves via their money and their fame. And if they got none of these they do it with accusations.
Don’t worry, I’ll be back. I’m just gettin started.
Jeremy,
How does being Bi make you more “tolerant of others”? My experence has shown me most Bisexuals are Liberal and most Liberals are only tolerant of those who agree with them. Hey! I’m just asking.
Sofia Lame,
I got to say anyone giving out their name has more guts then me.
Your statment “Anyone with any understanding of economics can see this” is severly flawed. The only way to save the economy is by lowering taxes. Lowering taxes for everyone and eliminating taxes altogether for people below a certain income level. Lowering taxes allows people to have more money to spend. when there is money being spent there are more jobs being created which puts more people on the tax roles and off of unemployement which gives the government more money to spend or in reality to waste. The stimulus money you and many like you who seem to be having an orgasim over is your money and my money being legally taken from our pockets and will have to be paid back with even high taxes. Which means… OH! what the Hell! you’ll never understand, your a Liberal, you can’t help it, your STUPID!!!
I think neither of us is qualified to determine what the other can understand. Not even I, and I am a psychiatrist.
Economics is not the simple beast Republicans (and, for that matter, Democrats) make it out to be. It is frankly quite difficult to determine what economic policy is good except for in retrospect. For instance, during the 1980s the prevailing wisdom was that lower taxes for bigger business would have a “trickle down” effect that would help the lower classes. While (some) business did do well during this period, the national debt soared in order to cover the cost of the tax cuts. It was hardly fiscally responsible, and today many agree that trickle down did not alleviate problems related to poverty or poor infrastructure.
Many like to simplify it to “streamlined” government spending that cuts the fat on corruption and wasteful spending. In reality, electing Republicans is certainly no more likely to curb high spending than electing Democrats. The only difference is Democrats are more likely to tax big businesses to cover the debt. They are famously good at this, as the tremendous ’90s surplus demonstrates.
But you understand history, and know that the ’90s were not run entirely by democrats. Intelligent policy from George H. W. Bush was also responsible for curbing rampant, irresponsible business, and Democratic fiscal policy kept the national surplus very high. The ’90s was an excellent decade for business. Surely, you must agree.
To give more examples of how taxes are unrelated to economic growth, consider the Chinaman. The average Chinaman has a 100% tax rate and owns nothing. There are a few huge businesses that are “free” to operate (as long as they stay in line behind Beijing, of course) and the result is a China that has an average annual growth rate of 10% – easily three times plus change our own growth rate.
But China’s system should not be our system. You must understand this is not the system Democrats want – they want to tax the big business and lower taxes on the masses, like you and me. Low taxes is actually a form of government spending, since it decreases the money the government is able to use. I’m sure you’ve read and heard about the 1930s and 1940s. Did low taxes save the economy? No, war did. And as you must know, war is an intensely government-operated phenomenon.
So why did the economy go up? Simple. Businesses were subsidized and aided by the government to produce more, which produced more jobs. They could not do this without the demand government provided for weapons and materiel.
We can simulate that demand with stimulus money, and $1 trillion wasn’t enough to fix a mess left by $5 trillion – that is simple mathematics.
If you acknowledge this, then take the leap of understanding necessary to see that $1 trillion more might just be enough to save the economy.
We all gave the Republicans eight years and they gave us a disaster and a joke of an administration. We progressives are not bad people. We advocate rights for all Americans, just as our Founding Fathers did. When you get right down to it, we’re all in the same boat.
And since none of us want to sink, then why keep drilling holes in the hull?
I hope you respond. Dialogue is the only way we can all increase our understanding of one another, as Americans, and forge a country that our children won’t have to spend their lifetimes paying off.
Interesting, but a few thoughts.
I agree with you about the lawyers, shit, they’ve ruined just about everything in our great society. You display a very good grasp of the concept that these high malpractice premiums increase costs for everybody in the system.
What you don’t seem to comprehend is that THE UNINSURED are another large cause of skyrocketing premiums to those of us with insurance. Just so we’re clear, these people ARE NOT lazy bums with no job who want to live off the government – those people are ALREADY eligible for medicaid or various state programs. These are individuals who are not offered insurance from their employer or, most commonly, cannot afford to insure both themselves and their children or are prohibited insurance due to pre-existing conditions.
It runs like this: Uninsured individual get sick or gets into a car accident. Emergency rooms are obligated under COBRA laws to treat and stabilize the individual, but they never recoup the costs. In order for the ER/Hospital/Clinic to stay open (and many are closing) they must increase costs to patients with insurance, which leads to the insurance companies raising rates.
Now I don’t whole-heartedly agree with the Obama plan, BUT LET ME ASK YOU, if a child is born to a working, low income family or born with a genetic illness – should that child be prohibited from enjoying the same basic protection from accident and illness we enjoy just because a bunch of lawyers at Aetna are greedy? This seems tragic for the wealthiest and most innovative nation in the world.
And before you write me off as some “stupid” liberal, I’m actually quite conservative. I also happen to be a professional efficiency consultant for medical practices, so I speak with Doctors, Hospital administrators, and professional billers ON A DAILY BASIS.
Think for yourself, and analyze the facts without all the party-line bullshit.
but poor people like socialised healthcare more. seeing that it keeps them alive an’ all.
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@Sofia Lamb, you are a fruitcake drunk on stupid juice… you have an extremely flawed view of history and current events…
You make ridiculouse claims, assumptions they are the truth, then make “observations” on flawed data and opinion….
If you aren’t willing to deal with reality, there is no one willing to enter any kind of discourse with you, as it can’t result in anything but wasting time….
So…, Good luck with that!! 😀
@ Stupid…. odd moniker for someone who clearly isn’t….
You make some decent points but lend more weight on some that aren’t characteristic and less on some that are…
I think you grossly underestimate the cost and effect of malpractice insurance premiums due to litigation.. often frivolous litigation….
I notice no comment at all about the drain on social services from illegal immigration…
I did notice you intense bleeding heart for an imaginary low income family with a child with a genetic illness and presumed lack of insurance or ability to get medical care….
I also noticed you had jumped on the bandwagon of the “greedy corporation” crowd that thinks all business does is rob and steal money from people, even murder them to get it…
The insurance industries average annual profit margin is around 3%… a measly 3% and you call that greedy??
blaming the insurance industry for making a tiny profit for some imaginary people that can’t get insurance, or the reason for some real people not to find a way to get a better job that provides it, is the same nutbag nonsense comming from fascist leftwingnuts, so you’re claims at being a conservative are ringning a little hollow about now….
I live in an extremely blue state, work in a union who’s members voluntarily or not have their wages garnished by the Union to support fascist leftwingnut candidates that support nonsense many of us in the Union don’t.
The only reason I am a Union member is because the taxes, regulation and interference in running my own business became too burdensome, and made my business unable to make wages, let alone a profit…. I am no longer able to employ people or offer any insurance to my employees because of fascist leftwingnut policies…..
Forget the imaginary people that may or may not exist and consider the cost being implemented on the rest of us to support some “GREEDY” governmental take over of 1/6th of the economy…. give me an example of a government agency that isn’t rife with fraud, waste, and abuse???
Then try to convince yourself before you try to convince me that feckless, incompetent care isn’t going to be the overreaching, overpriced, underachieving government agency, destined to bankrupt the country, you want to believe it is…..
Now, you.. analyze some facts, instead of throwing out partyline bullshit…. and leave the bleeding heart shit at home, I know what it is, and why your ilk use it, and it doesn’t work with me…
Hey Stupid said!
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Interesting, but a few thoughts.
I agree with you about the lawyers, shit, they’ve ruined just about everything in our great society. You display a very good grasp of the concept that these high malpractice premiums increase costs for everybody in the system. [Thank you.]
What you don’t seem to comprehend is that THE UNINSURED are another large cause of skyrocketing premiums to those of us with insurance.[Here we go] Just so we’re clear, these people ARE NOT lazy bums with no job who want to live off the government [for the most part] those people are ALREADY eligible for Medicaid or various state programs. These are individuals who are not offered insurance from their employer or, most commonly, cannot afford to insure both themselves and their children or are prohibited insurance due to pre-existing conditions. [Never said anything about the “THE UNINSURED”. But sense you brought it up. We’ll always have people in need. I don’t have a problem with people with honest needs. I do however have a problem with people who assume that anyone who has a problem with socialized medicine thinks everyone without insurance are nothing but lazy bums, that’s about as far from the truth as you can get.] It runs like this: Uninsured individual get sick or gets into a car accident. Emergency rooms are obligated under COBRA laws to treat and stabilize the individual, but they never recoup the costs. [In the business world this would be call a lose.] in order for the ER/Hospital/Clinic to stay open (and many are closing) [I bet a few of these closings are due to mismanagement] they must increase costs to patients with insurance, [True, which leads to the insurance companies raising rates. But, as Gregalicious stated. “The insurance industries average annual profit margin is around 3%… a measly 3%” WalMart does better. I know this because my wife works for one of the big insurance companies. Hey! Insurance companies aren’t the real problem. It’s the ambulance chasing Lawyers that are driving up insurance cost which is a major contributor to the increasing number of people without insurance.]
Now I don’t whole-heartedly agree with the Obama plan [No one does], BUT LET ME ASK YOU, if a child is born to a working, low income family or born with a genetic illness – should that child be prohibited from enjoying the same basic protection from accident and illness we enjoy just because a bunch of lawyers at Aetna are greedy? [One more time, is not the corporate lawyers, it’s the private ambulance chasing TV commercial Lawyers who, like the sharks that they are, feeding off the misfortune of mostly poor people.] This seems tragic for the wealthiest and most innovative nation in the world. [Maybe the greedy lawyers could be denied insurance just for being lawyers. Could that be considered a pre-existing condition?]
And before you write me off as some “stupid” liberal, [the only people I’ve ever written off are weak minded conservatives who fall for misleading Liberal half truths] I’m actually quite conservative.[But not a party-liner?] I also happen to be a professional efficiency consultant for medical practices,[So you say. I’ve dealt with Efficiency Consultants, not the kind working for a medical practices, and it always seems that after you pay one these consulting, all your profits are gone. You end up making no more money than if you just use a little comment sense. Sorry, I’m sure your good at what you do, but in my type of work they are considered a waste of time and money] so I speak with Doctors, Hospital administrators, and professional billers ON A DAILY BASIS.
Think for yourself, [And again, here we go! This is one thing I can do, and according to most do very well.] and analyze the facts [The best way to analyze the facts would be to open your eyes and just look around you] without all the party-line bullshit. [Party-line bullshit! You damn right I’m a party-liner. I’m one of the few Conservative out there still following the conservative principles of my party. It seems most Conservatives have turned to liberal policies and disguise the fact by calling themselves Moderates in order to fool people into thinking they care, just like most Liberals disguise their party-line bullshit by calling themselves Progressives.]
[Bottom line here. I think we need to stop the out of control TV commercial ambulance chasing Lawyers. My experience has always been, if you are having difficulty solving a problem maybe you should look at it from a different angle.]
another overlooked stat about the “uninsured”….
40% make above $50k and don’t choose to purchase it for themselves…. just how does that lack of forsight justify food off my kids plates to provide it for them??
the facts are… regardless of how desperate you fruitcakes make our current system out to be, it pales in comparison to the desperation, and the disaster feckless incompetent care is going to cause….
True! Just another fact the Liberial bed wetters seem to always overlook in order to keep the number of uninsured people on the high side. The desperate a problem looks the better they look.
I’d rather wait in line for an MRI than never get one……
I’m a 22 year old puerto rican girl with lupus. I have a bachelors degree, but can’t get a salery job, because 1. I have lupus (people don’t hire ill workers — too expensive to insure), and 2. I can’t work more than 25 hours a week. I Can’t get insurance, don’t qualify for government aid because I’m not married, pregnant, or under age 18. I’m going to die young because I cannot afford healthcare. This is a travesty in the richest nation on earth.
Really have not been to Europe and seen everyone on crutches instead of being fixed. Their national Health care is, here have crutches. We actually fix people. And what kind racist site is this?
@ dolores, too bad for you sweety, we all get some tough breaks in life… your condition is incurable, and not my fault, nor my responsibility… feeding my kids is my responsibility….. I don’t owe you or some freakin’ aids victim a damned thing, neither do my kids….
getting a bachelors degree says you are not without means, not being able to send my own kids to college in a vain effort to save your sorry ass, just doesn’t wash with me….
if you were nearly as smart as your bachelors degree says you are, you should be able to figure out a way to take care of yourself, instead of pretending its my responsibility to do it for you…..
Taking care of me and my own is the best I can do now that libtards have made it damn near impossible to get ahead, and you fruitcakes still sit around with your mfing hands out acting like I owe you more of the food off my kids plates just because you think so….
God, helps those that help themselves… instead of sitting around poor meing your days away get up off your lazy ass and apply yourself like I have to every freakin day…
Stick that in your “travesty” fruitcake…..
Gregahomo, that was not very loving!!!
You love to yack about taking food off your kids plate, well, if you are that concerned about it, then maybe you need a better paying job!!!
Look, we all know McDonalds don’t pay that well, but if you put more effort in your burger flipping abilities, then maybe your teenage boss will recognize your efforts. Everybody who is crying about healthcare for all is, in the simplist of terms, STUPID!!! PERIOD!!! You don’t see the forest for the trees.
I am reading all these blowhards yacking about what a terrible thing it will be to pay for others heathcare, you will be taking food off my kids plate, not my problem, blah blah blah. Truth it, they will be the first in line to see a doctor if universal healthcare ever happened. I have good healthcare, I’m healthy and I can afford to keep food on my love ones plates and I have enough common sense to see that the heath system that we currently have is a JOKE. Idiots like you and your ilk would rather pay sky high premiums and co-pays than to off someone who is less fortunate a chance at good health. Which is cheaper, pay alittle more in taxes or alot more in insurance payments???
That’s the problem with conservatives of today, they don’t THINK!!! They actually believe that letting wall street run free again and going back to the system that got us in this finacial mess this country is dealing with in the first place is the solution. And then they get mad on this site when I call their ilk DUMBASSES!! It will be a cold day in HE** before I cry about insurance companies not making a profit. They are the ones taking food off peoples plate, not the gov. DUH!!! Think before you speak, that goes for you too, “I can’t spell constipation’.
put alil love in your heart
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Typical Liberal. Do us all a favor. Keep your head up your Ass. When you want to talk without all the Liberal rhetoric, let me know.
Well, when YOU want to talk without all the typical Conservative rhetoric, looks like we’ll have a middle ground. Where would you all be without FOX News? 5th grade, I suppose.
this is fucking retarded yes, black people hate health insurance only the whitest hippiest hipster thinks health insurance should be a human right
Sofia. Libs don’t believe in a middle ground. They believe in total domination over everyone with a different opinion. Liberals don’t believe in your first ammendment rights, unless you completely agree with them. If you disagree with one, he/she will without hesitation violate your fisrt amendment rights by shouting you down or cutting you off. And if that don’t shut you up they’ll resort to calling you a racist or homophobe or acuse you of wanting to kill poor people by starving them. You can never reason with a true Liberal. Thats how you can always ID a true Liberal. Another way to ID a true Lib is to ask one to quote the first amendment. They’ll try telling you, Oh yes! it says Seperation of Church and State or yes it does say freedom of expression. Or they will always say we are a Democracy never a Republic. Look it up. Democrats aka Liberals have a MOB RULES mentality. And Republicans (at least the Conservatives ones and those who can’t spell) believe in The constitution or the rights of all, including yours. SO DON’T GIVE ME ANY OF YOUR MIDDLE GROUND BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t listen to FOX news and I don’t use my education as a means to prove I’m smarter than anyone. Just the truth.
Sounds to me your not thinking. I just want you to be honest, stop misleading the people, and stop trying to shove your opinions down my troats.
You know what I like about this web sight. I can speak wthout being interrupted by an I’m smarter then you because I…
You know what “can’t spell….”, I would keep my head up ass if it were up there, atleast I would be surrounded by an asshole that knows what it’s talking about. You on the other hand, along with your butt buddy gregahomo, you two don’t know SHIT!!! To say you two clowns have shit for brains would be a compliment to you and a insult to shit.
I am not a liberal, you dumbass!!! I just make use of the god’s given gift of COMMON SENSE!! If conservative thinking got this country in the mess we are in, why the flying fuck would I listen some conservative blowhard about a solution?
Put alil love in your heart
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How can you say your not a liberal and then call yourself aka YESobama. And thanks for admiting to being an ass hole. I haven’t had a really good laugh in a long time. Conservative thinking didn’t get us in this mess. Conservative cowards, aks moderates, not standing up to the immoral deviant socialist anti americans libs suchas yourself that got us into this mess.
Put alittle love in your heart.
It is very easy for me to say that I am not a liberal, why, because I’m not, DUH!!! Wow, so not only can you not spell conservative, but you also can’t comprehend words. And you wonder why I call YOU a dumbass!!
English comprehension 101.
Subject statement:
“You know what “can’t spell….”, I would keep my head up ass if it were up there, atleast I would be surrounded by an asshole that knows what it’s talking about.”
Now, let’s analyze this statement. By saying I ‘WOULD KEEP MY HEAD UP THERE”, common sense and good english states that the word “ass” is being used as a location.
“I would be surrounded by an “asshole” that knows what “IT’S” talking about.”
The “IT’S” means that I am referring to 1. Someone/thing other than myself, 2. Someone/something that is smarter than you, and that something would be around me, if my head were up there.
Oh yeah, the statement….”if it were up there”, do you know what that means son, it means, my head IS NOT up there.
All you proved to me and everyone else on this site is that you are a dumbass who needs to get hooked on phonics.
The only thing you said that was partially correct is ”
Conservative thinking didn’t get us in this mess”. It should be the LACK of thinking on the conservatives part that got us in this mess.
Put alil love and hooked on phonics in your heart
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My bad, your right, I knew I was going to catch it for my lack of word comprehension. But I did prove a past point I’ve made. Libs can and will take every thing you say and use it against you. I’ve never called a liberal a lier, or at least I can’t remember ever doing so. If ever i did I apologize. Right or wrong, you can’t call someone a lier if they truly believe in what they say. And I’m sure Libs truly believe in everthing they say, even though most of what they believe is wrong. But, in your case, you are lying, you are a liberal. And because you can’t adimit to it, a cowardly one too. Just like the Moderate conservatives. Be honest, you’ll get alot further with people like myself when ever you are. I am a “party-liner” conservative who believes in God and Country. I willl never yield to to Moderate thinking. there are no splinters in my ass from sitting on the fence. Nor will I ever yield to Liberials who can’t tell right from wrong… Except in cases of spelling and grammar of course.
Wow, do you really think I give a flying fuck what you think about me?? Don’t flatter yourself son.
The only thing you know “I CAN’T….”, is that you are just a dumbass and I called you out on it. Look, first off, you wanna be conservative, you don’t apologize on the internet, especially after talking big and bad! Secondly, after apologizing like the little panty waist, liberal hearted bitch that you are after getting your ass handed to you, you don’t attempt to throw in a cheap shot, especially on a piss poor hunch.
If I told you once, I told you a million times, I am not a liberal, if you don’t believe me, oh well, that is your choice. Frankly, I don’t ….give…a……fuck! LOL!!! I am a indepentant THINKER. There are things about conservativisms that I like as well as dislike, same for liberalisms. I am in the happy middle supporting the best ideas from both sides. Unlike yourself though, I don’t shove a fence post up my ass!!! No splinters here, unlike yourself.
put ALIL love in your heart
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Ok independent THINKER. LOL!!! I’m not your son. From the sound of things you’re probably a lot younger than me. You go ahead like one of the sheep and follow all the other “independent THINKERS” LOL!!! Off a cliff. When Obama and his Democratic party mobsters of “independent THINKERS” LOL!!! manage to take control of the US and all our individual rights are in the craper, we’ll see where that fence post ends up. I strongly recommend if you are going to continue to call yourself an “independent THINKER” LOL!!! Maybe you should turn off your play station, take that joint out of your mouth and do some “independent” READING of books that describe the difference between a Democracy and a Republic. Try reading the US Constitution and The Bill of Rights, especially the first amendment. Use that independent mind of yours and explain to me how you can confuse separation of church and state with “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. I don’t mean just read it so you can say you read it, I mean really READ IT! so you can compare it to what all you self proclaiming “independent THINKERS” are saying. If you are an “independent THINKER”. Then you’ll see how all you and your cowardly politically correct in the middle Michael Moore worshipping friends haven’t a clue when you say we live in a Democracy or how you have a right to freedom of expression instead of freedom speech in order to justify your deviant immoral behavior. Try reading about the history behind the term “separation of church and state” instead of just blindly quoting it as if to be some sort of authority on the subject. And read about socialism and how it leads to communism and how people are forced to live under each. And before you and your educated, indoctrinated, grammatically corrected pot head friends call another pro capitalist conservative or a conservative Christian a Fascist Read about Hitler and what the Fascist party really stood for. And read about why we dropped atom bombs on two cities in Japan and not just one tell me how many people were killed and compare that to the potentially millions of lives that may have been spared as a result. Try talking to a WWII vet who after landing at D Day was put on a ship headed for Japan to fight an enemy that had on concept of surrender while being told to expect 50% American casualties and compare that to what’s happing in Iraq while 18 year olds are dying to protect you and your “independent THINKING” from a people whose only goal is to kill you at all cost. Then ask Obama why the question. Are we leaving. Is it because you really think it’s the right thing to do or is it because you don’t really understand we are not just fighting for the freedom of all people but the right to just exist, or is it because you need the votes. When you can honestly address all these. Then I dare you to call your YESobama, happy to be in the middle, hooked on phonics, socialistic, educated indoctrinated brainwashed, bed wetting, lying, sheep off a cliff, missguided LIBERAL self a Conservative. A true Conservative would have never voted for whats been describe as the most liberial thinking politian ever to have run for president.
Can’t spell conservative, you are completely indoctrinated. Utterly uninformed and completely ignorant of economics, yet you think you know what the country needs. What qualifies you? Absolutely nothing.
If you really cared about individual rights, you wouldn’t have voted for Bush; if you really cared about fiscal responsibility, you wouldn’t have supported his administration. But in all probability, you did; and your desire to put those people back into the White House proves how badly you hate this country and how ignorant of plain sense you really are.
You feel better “can’t spell…..”, you feel like a big man now. You did all that “read this, and read that”, and what did you prove, NOTHING!! Well, I take that back, you proved that you are a poor, can’t think for himself boy who depends on the people you see on Fox news for an identity, and that you can put me to sleep within three sentences. Very impressive. Look SON, I took civics class in school and READ and was tested on all the matters that you speak of, and I passed too! Yaaay!!! So, what’s your point???
You are truly a loser, SON, how do I figure? Let’s take a trip down diatribe lane…….
“You go ahead like one of the sheep and follow all the other “independent THINKERS” “.
Yes, I think I will continue to be like other indepentant THINKERS, why, because unlike you conservatards, we THINK. Key word….THINK!! Strange concept for you, I’m sure, but not my problem.
”
When Obama and his Democratic party mobsters of “independent THINKERS” LOL!!! manage to take control of the US and all our individual rights are in the craper, we’ll see where that fence post ends up. ”
Well, can’t spell…., we know where the post ended up, up your spincter. LOL!!! AND YOU LIKED IT!! Besides that, how do you really figure our indiviual rights are in the craper? THINK SON!!! What a monster B.O is, wanting everybody to have access to healthcare without having to go broke. Making million and billionaires pay more in taxes. Terrible man, really, terrible. It is funny to me how morons like yourself get soooooo mad at him for his stand on taxes. Your $22,000 a year salary will not be effected. Your taxes wont go up a penny. If you have healthcare, nothing changes. The only people who will be effected by any change are those who make $250,000 or more. Clearly, you are safe. So how are your basic rights being effected????
I see it everyday. PWT like yourself sucking down a beer in front of your trailer home, complaining about taking America back. Last I checked, America is still here, not only that, it is getting stronger than it was four years ago. You bore me Cant spell….!! I maybe younger than you, I may be older, not sure. What I do know is, I am smarter than and that I can have a more stimulating conversation playing pac-man on my playstation than I ever would talking with you.
put alil love in your heart
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I’m sorry! I can’t stop laughing…LOL…LOL…LOL… I don’t know whose funnier me or you…:)))))) Please don’t stop. By the way, I make 6 figures and live in an upper middle class neighborhood. Got there by being a self sufficient thinker “SON”. I’m sure you don’t believe that, i really don’t care.
And you think 6 figure jobs stopped existing once you got yours eh, SON???? I hope you don’t think I am impressed, because I am not. LOL!!!! How pathetic, someone who claims to make big money trying to impress someone they never met on a blog site. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
You continue to prove my point, SON. YOU ARE A LOSER!!!!
Go back to McDonalds and flip more burgers son.
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Dr. Sofia Lamb, If you really are who you say you are. Where have you been? Maybe you’ve been in Bioshock fanticy land, I don’t know. And how would you know my qualification? OH! You don’t. FYI, I know all about economics. Its nothing you can’t figure out using first grade math. You got 2 hands and 5 fingers on each, or do you. if so, use them. If you are who you say you are.
I can’t sop laughing, Oh god please stop…
I see you are not denying it “can’t think…”, I guess I struck a nerve with you. LOL!!! I learned in my many years on this earth, all one has to do is give one good slap to a blowhard, bullshit artist conservatard to shut them up and have them running home to mommy with their tail between their legs. LOL!!!
good luck with that!
put alil love in your heart
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this for those of you fascist leftwingnuts that can read and understand English….
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/obamacare-follies
regardless of how far you have your heads buried up your asses, its really hard to argue the reality of feckless, incompetent care with your fascist leftwingnut pipedreams….xDDDDD
Welcome back Gregabitchass,
I see your still up to your old tricks again, posting bullshit and propaganda, and not one solution. You truly represent your party, not only are you the party of “no”, but also the party of “I don’t know…..”, because none of you clowns know the difference between shit or shinola. You should do yourself a favor and shut the fuck up. Save what little dignity you have left son.
put alil love in your heart’
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i’m french,
we don’t have free healthcare for all in france,
only for the poorers. ( people who earn less than 455€ in a month )
the healthcare is paid by the insured and theirs employers,
( you can read it on your pay sheet )
but it’s only a partial healthcare, if you want a complete coverage you have to suscribe to an health fund.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Security_in_France
i have a friend with a kidney disease, she must get a Dialysis 3 times a week.
do you think we should let her die because she can’t pay ?
I’m still here. just waiting to see which of you three makes me laugh the hardest, you grego or dr, sofia. And why don’t you try some of that “put alil love in your heart” yourself aka.
I just love you panty waist conservatards, soon as somebody tells you something good, you run home to mommy with your tail between your legs. hahahaha
I guess the truth hurts, now stay under the rock you crawled back under. LOL!!!!
put alil love in your heart
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From reading your comments, I’m sure you know the difference between shit or shinola. I betting you live somewhere between bullshitville and your job at the airport shining shoes.
Yes “I can’….”, I do know the difference between the two, that’s why I said….
” You truly represent your party, not only are you the party of “no”, but also the party of “I don’t know…..”, because none of you clowns know the difference between shit or shinola.”
Duh!!! And even if I were to work at an airport shining shoes, which I don’t, I would still be smarter than you!
put alil love in your heart
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If Conservatives are as stupid as you say we are. Then to say you are smarter, isn’t really saying much. Is it, shoe shine boy?
Change your name to Can’t Think Intelligently.
What are you yacking about now SON? Yes, ALOT of Conservatives are dumb as a brick being that they are blinded by greed and self-rightousness, you being one of them. Soooo, golly geee, that does make lil ol me smarter than them and YOU!!!!!!!! So, it looks to me like it does say alot about me after all, it says that you are not smarter than me, a 5th grader or a Pre-Schooler. I bet a dogs butt has a higher IQ than you. Do what you do best, argue against a 2yo, atleast, you may have a 25% chance of winning that debate, a debate against your equal.
put alil love in your heart
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Here is a story for you fruitcakes that don’t need a negro dialect translator to read it to you….xDDDDD
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/weird/Scientists-May-Have-IDd-Liberal-Gene-105917218.html
the real reason you fruitcakes suffer from pantywettingpicklesmoochingobozofluffing syndrome/disorder…..xDDDDD
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAWWWW
Hey Gregadumbass, you forgot to mention a HUGE part of the story……, the part where “liberals” had/have ALOT of FRIENDS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
“The study was led by UCSD’s James Fowler and focused on 2,000 subjects from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Scientists matched the subjects’ genetic information with “maps” of their social networks. According to researchers, they determined that people “with a specific variant of the DRD4 gene were more likely to be liberal as adults.” However, the, subjects were only more likely to have leanings to the left if they were also socially active during adolescence.
“It is the crucial interaction of two factors — the genetic predisposition and the environmental condition of having many friends in adolescence — that is associated with being more liberal,” according to the study.”
So, with YOUR evidence, what does that say about die hard conservatives like yourself? It says that then, just like now, you and your elk have NO FRIENDS at all.
hahahahahaha
suck on that beeeotch!!!!!!
put alil love in your heart
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Source: Scientists Find ‘Liberal Gene’ | NBC San Diego
You fail at reading the results of scientific studies forever.
So…. How did you fruitcakes like your free healthcare???
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I love mine, it’s the #1 reason I will never move back to the US. And BTW, I’ve never had to wait in line for any of it and have found the care to be superior than what I was charged thousands for in the US (which, ironically, I DID have to wait for, once I managed to find a doctor that would accept my insurance).
Private health care is for suckers.
FYI. The #1 reason why [MOST] people don’t want “free health care” is because you STUPID LAZY ASS F*#$&@S who think its free are shoving it down the throats of the people who don’t want it because they understand…IT AIN’T FREE. If you would stop your lying and ask the rest of us what we want and give us a choice, you might get a more positive response. And another FYI for all you STUPID LAZY ASS F*#$&@S who think its free. We know Obama and all the other Libs in Washington are not stupid. They’re only in support of “free health care” as long as it gets them votes. If you open your eye’s you would see that…
WOW!!! What a revelation! Free healthcare is not free! Well no shit Sherlock!!! It is paid for by a little thing called…. TAXES!!!! You dumbass! The only people who don’t want gov. funded healthcare are dumbasses like yourself. I can’t wait for the day when McDonalds fire your dumbass and you lose your cut rate health insurance. Then you will have to eat your words. I never underestimate the stupidity of americans, and you “I can’t….”, never prove me wrong.
Hey Gregafaggot, you are speaking in the past tense, nothing has changed yet. HAhahahaha, guess the people, you know, the P.W.T of America will continue to suck off the big, juicy, Pam Anderson size Tits of the Gov. alilttle longer. hahahahahahahaahahahaha
put alill love in your heart
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Enigma,
With all the Libs I’ve ever known. There is one thing that always remains consistent. No matter what you say or how you say it, the Liberal bed wetter will always twist your words in a way that says something other than what you said with one purpose in mind. That is to cover up their own imoral deviant behavior. You know what I ment to say you STUPID LAZY ASS F*#$. Try practicing what you always end your statments with and “put alill love in your heart”
“Can’t Spell….”,
My name is Enigma, aka YESobama, not Enigma, aka the Psychic. I can’t read people minds, I just comment of what I read. It’s not my fault you can’t express yourself in an intelligent manner. You said……..
“FYI. The #1 reason why [MOST] people don’t want “free health care” is because you STUPID LAZY ASS F*#$&@S who think its free are shoving it down the throats of the people who don’t want it because they understand…IT AIN’T FREE.”
– Ok, I understood that, and I say ‘DUH’!!! It is NOT free, who said it was?
“If you would stop your lying and ask the rest of us what we want and give us a choice, you might get a more positive response.”
-And your positive response would be what exactly?? Get sick and die, or get sick and lose your house and job due to sky high hospital bills? And yes, there are people who, even with medical insurance, fall into dire straights because of sickness. Wish you were one of them. LOL
“And another FYI for all you STUPID LAZY ASS F*#$&@S who think its free. We know Obama and all the other Libs in Washington are not stupid. They’re only in support of “free health care” as long as it gets them votes. If you open your eye’s you would see that…”
-I’m glad you acknowledge that our President is not stupid, unfortunately, the same cannot be said for you. The bottom line is, you are defending the “profits” of big insurance companies, who, at a drop of a dime, would drop your coverage when you need them most. They are just sitting back charging an arm and a leg, and only spending pennies to do what they are suppose to. Take care of the patients, not worry about profits.
I already know what you and your kind will say when I make this next statement, but oh well, Americans should be able to receive “STATE” education and health care for all. We pay taxes for everything we pay for, there would be enough money for it. If you want to keep your beloved healthcare provider, then keep them and shut up. If you live in California, but want to go to Nevada to go to school, pay for it. If you live in Cali and want to go to Cali U., it should be provided to you for free, just like grade school. Ofcourse, you would have to maintain an acceptable GPA inorder to get your free in state education.
Trust and believe, there will be enough lazy people to turn your nose up too, but for those who work hard to live the American dream, they should have a fair shake at living a desent life without worring about if the next sickness they get will ruin their life.
put alil love in your heart
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The United States health insurance industry is like comic book villain level evil and proud of it. I think it’s a snapshot of the American mindset that people are more outraged over a tax hike for top income earners than the fact that several thousand people die every year thanks to lack of access to health care. They were probably just jobless freeloaders anyway >:| <—Angry face.
Also most countries with "free healthcare" that any red blooded American is required to loathe as communist (Japan/Switzerland/EWWW FRANCE) actually have a mixed private/public system and aren't truly "free" in the sense that patients still have to pick up some (vastly reduced/subsidized) costs related to their treatment. The British/Canadian systems are more in line with what you're thinking of even though both of those countries have a variety of private/supplemental options available. Also the stories of people dying waiting in line to have machetes removed from their heads are 99% bullshit but you can research that on your own time.
any of you fruitcakes remember when the fascist leftwingnut propaganda arm of obozo’s adminstration were calling Sarah Palin nuts for saying obozocare would call for “death panels”?????
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_111510/content/01125107.guest.html
well… here is a leading fascist leftwingnut doing exactly that.. Krugman is a ny times columnist, nobel prize winner and all around pickle smooching obozo fluffer that libtard buttpokes genuflect to when he speaks…..
common sense told Sarah Palin and most on the right the only way obozocare could possibly deliver what that feckless, incompetent, in over his head negro, ass clown promised it would….
put that in your crack pipe and smoke it, and be thankful Republicans are gonna repeal that crap before it ever comes to that….. 😀
Face it all. Health care as it is in the USA or socialized health care. It’s just trading one set of problems for another. Some Doctor’s greasy finger up your ass or the Feds with thier hands in your pockets. Your choise.
Good god, you dumb shit. Its about resource management, and by the way these “death panels” exist at every hospital in the country.
Say a Hospital only has 4 intubation machines (those breathing machines that go down your throat and cost about $100,000), and all the machines are being used.
Now one of your kids gets rushed into the ER, collapsed lung, non-responsive. If your kids blood can keep collecting oxygen he will probably recover and live a long health live, otherwise he will code on the table in a matter of minutes and be dead.
Should the hospital just say “sorry kid, but your shit out of luck” leaving your child to die, while some 96 year old woman in a coma breathes happy on her machine (only to die in that same coma 2 weeks later)?
Or should the Doctor just arbitrarily decide a patient at random to sacrifice for your childs life? Not consulting with the families or mental health professionals?
The panels are a group of different specialists who determine the most effective way to use limited hospital resources, saving the lives of those who will go on to recover, and allowing those who will not recover to die peacefully.
Oh, and by the way, for you moron wannabe Government Spending Hawks, the majority of Medicare’s budget is spent on patients in the ICU who will never recover during the last 2 weeks of their life.
So you want the taxpayer to pay $5-10,000 a day to keep grandma drugged up for the last 2 weeks of her life before she dies rather than providing basic medical services like anti-biotics and teeth cleaning to CHILDREN who haven’t even had a chance to fail yet.
crazy asshole
here is a bunch of articles that explains what nobody on the left knows or is going to admit…..
http://www.nationalreview.com/critical-condition
I know you fruitcakes hate to have to read something because learning makes your head hurt and ruins your high, but facts are facts……. 😀
You would know SON, I’ve been trying to teach your dumbass to read for years and you still haven’t caught on. Well, pretend I am the singing frog you enjoy posting and attempt to read this……
GO FUCK YOURSELF!! You dumbass!!!
XD LOL!!!!!!!!!!
paliyh
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here is another one on the realities of canadian healthcare system that you wont ever hear from an American fascist leftwingnut…..
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/o-canada-epitaph-single-payer-health-care_518193.html
You gotta wonder just how they can keep ignoring reality and insist on their fruitcake fantasies when there is zero evidence to back up their claims anywhere…..
apperantly that liberal gene causes more mental malformations than first realized…. 😀
Everybody is trying to ignore your fantacy, Greggotdicksinhisass,
The fantacy of you in a small 5’w X 5′ l room filled with holes in the walls in the heart of San Francisco. In a old school bath house full of fat, hairy old men on the other side of the walls with their dicks in the holes. Oh how you lust to fill all those dicks poking you all over your cum soaked body.
What joy for you, you freak!!!!! Take those dicks out your mouth and ass and…….
put alil love in your heart
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With a doctor, at least you know what’s being placed in your ass. With the feds having both hands in your pockets, it’s got to be something else… I wonder what! Let me put it a different way. We’er all about to get FUCKED!!!
Well, I’d be more open to critiques of various healthcare plans if they were released from more trusted and respected news organizations. You quoting the National Review would be like me quoting the New Republic, its an interesting look at the statistics, but it basically ends up as nothing more than one persons perspective on a tricky issue. The individual in that article claims that when the U.S. spends more as a measure of GDP on healthcare than other industrialized nations in Europe its purely a matter of population difference – The U.S. has a larger population than them, therefore we would spend more, but the problem is that the initial measure (as in, how much we spend as a portion of GDP on healthcare) is actually per capita, so the measurement is very much comparable. Also: the article fails to mention the fact that its odd that the U.S., which has a private system, spends significantly more as a percentage of our GDP than countries that have they’re entire health insurance program run by the govt. It also fails to mention that, should the U.S. have a nationalized health insurance plan, it would be able to tamp down on drug prices (Which, at present, are significantly more expensive than the comparable (or in some cases the same) drug prices in various other industrializd nations. Shouldn’t the private industry keep drug prices lower, and benefits to a premium since we’re paying directly for those services? (We’re paying, in some cases, as much as 5 times as much for the same drug in Canada. Rather pay 40 bucks for a drug, or 200, with the company making a profit on the sale of both.) You also forget that, under the proposed govt. healthcare plan, it wouldn’t be doctors or hospitals that would be under govt. control, it would be the actual insurance plan. Therefore, doctors and hospitals could make the same amount of money, and run just as efficiently as before, with the only difference being where you got your insurance from. It’s also interesting to note that, as an added benefit of a health insurance plan being run by the govt., it would be put under the scrutiny of the public eye, and would recieve an added level of accountability that most private health insurance organizations never recieve. In some industries its definitely better to have a private system (for example, electronics, where the private industry brings forth inovation and competition) but in an industry such as health care insurance, where there can be no innovation (what’s there to innovate?) and peoples lives (and our money) are on the line, that just simply will not work.
Let me ask you one more question, since you seem to be a bit of a political firebrand: Do you agree that we need to protect our personal freedoms? And do you think that the govt. should stay as uninvolved in our lives as possible?
YOU GOT THIS ONE WRONG,WRONG,WRONG!
We want to keep our good health care we have now.We do not want to lose it to government run crap that may be coming to take it away!
I enjoy the dumbass who keeps referring to “fascist left wingnuts”, clearly 100% oblivious to the fact that fascism is on the exact opposite side of the spectrum from what he’s actually thinking of.
Thanks tea party dumbasses. Now a word that entered the lexicon with a very specific meaning is just an all-purpose term for “bad”.
I think Americans are actually very very ignorant on the subject.
Look at the NHS- it’s totally free, you get the very best in care from 1.2 million people, especially if you have chronic illness. With acute care its a bit different but the fact you get seen in under 3 hours in a and e and get admitted/discharged quickly is amazing. Drugs will cost a maximum of £6.75 (free for children and over 65’s), as well as free physio, midwifery and home care.
Spent some time in the states this year and I was amazed when someone said they would get a cab to hospital, as the ambulance would be billed to them!
Because Americans dont travel at all, they dont see how much better off other people have it and believe the lies and sensationalsim put forward about ‘socialised’ medicine. It’s actually retarded and annoying, and Americans would rather sit in a caravan and believing in UFO’s rather than actually look at the good parts of foreign health policy.
The overall problem is that Yanks are selfish and would rather leave their mates shitting in a bucket and dying in the cold rather than help them out or pay a penny more in tax to help them- a characteristic from years of isolation and bad spelling. What else explains allowing a woman who believes North Korea are the good guys and who’s only experience of power is running 10,000 sqkm of snow and ice to run for president.
i like how you refer to americans as being ignorant, then gorup all yanks as selfish UFO beleivers who live in caravans, and alaska as being as nothing but snow and ice.
Is there anyone on this web page who actually knows what their talking about? From all that I’ve been reading the answer is a definite NO!!!
You have no idea what you’re talking about. USA has the best healthcare in the world. I don’t believe the lies of some individuals in our government and certainly not the trash you’re spewing. If it wasn’t for these selfish yanks, most of the world would be in the toilet.
God Bless the Yanks and their Healthcare programs!!!!!!
well… the rest of us recently got some good news that you fascist leftwingnuts aren’t going to like very much… 😀
http://www.nationalreview.com/critical-condition/255196/obamacare-now-legally-well-politically-unstable-james-c-capretta
its starting to look like that feckless, incompetent, in over his head negro, ass clowns ill concieved socialist takeover of our medical system is on its way out….
with the Republican takeover comming in January, its only going to get better from here… 😀
Finally some good news 🙂 And a very Marry Christmas to all you bed wetting Liberal Dems.
I would rather be a Democrat than a Republican. At least Republicans don’t bend over backwards for big business – Republics so very much love being owned by someone with more money and power than they. They have no true freedom, no will to press on – simply a puerile and adoring love for those who own them.
That’s why the Republicans oppose national healthcare. It goes against the interests of big business, which they adore and gladly sell themselves down the river for.
Or…conservatives are not in favor of “free” public health care because they have a basic understanding of Economics 101. All people would love the idea of “free healthcare” like all people would like the idea of free-cars-for-everyone. Conservatives understand that providing those things without losing defense, and education is an economical impossibility. There is really no reason to debate this. Let’s just look at our economy in 10 years, then judge it.
Here is one for you fascist leftwingnuts…
http://americasculturalstudies.com/buy-the-book/
a little about how liberalism a euphamism for socialism, destroys people and countries…..
not likely it will help any of you fruitcakes pull your heads out of your asses but it is a look in the right direction… 😀
I don’t understand the people who want to make it a REQUIREMENT to get health care, but don’t want to offer a public option. So you are pretty much punishing the people that you are “trying to help”. The people who don’t currently have insurance. Most of them can’t afford it. So instead of helping them punish them more.
it boggles the mind how libtards think that the handout dependent, enslaved to the gov’t. portion of the public is big enough to silence the voices of everybody else forced to pay for those handouts….
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/256347/obamacare-unacquired-taste-michael-tanner?page=1
fascist leftwingnuts got a midterm shellacking thanks to obozocare, and none of them ran on it as an accomplishment, now they think that putting up a fight against repeal of the most onerous legislation in our lifetimes is somehow gonna change public perspective on it and them???
you could call this a perfect storm and an ideal battle for the Republicans… allowing them to soundly castrate the left by leaping to the fight and forcing libtards to try to resell this idiotic bill to the public…. xDDDDDDD
as with everything else in the fascist leftwingnut agenda, obozocare only makes sense if you ignore the obviouse, and choose to believe a very narrow set of circumstances that ‘may’ lead to deficit reductions… but experience with fascist leftwingnut policies show otherwise….
http://www.nationalreview.com/exchequer
LOL I saw this blog on http://www.DanielDickey.com (The MTV VJ) and must admit it’s just as funny!!!
another dose of reality for you fascist leftwingnuts who think any handout is a good handout…
A Peculiar Path to Deficit Reduction
January 8, 2011 9:20 A.M. By Yuval Levin
Chris Van Hollen, the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee (and, alas, my congressman) has been getting before every camera he can find over the past few days to insist that Obamacare is a deficit reduction plan and so repealing it would increase the deficit, and that this is what the Congressional Budget Office says too.
Several folks around here, and many elsewhere of course, have noted that the CBO was forced to accept some very implausible assumptions in making its calculations—and indeed if you read the CBO reports from around the time the bill was being debated last March you’d find the agency sending every possible signal it can to alert members to just how implausible some of the “cost cutting” measures in the bill really were. It is very likely that if Obamacare is implemented it will cost far far more than the CBO was allowed to estimate.
But let’s put that aside for a moment and accept for the sake of argument all of the assumptions that the authors of Obamacare want us to accept, and compelled the CBO to accept. Let’s look at the actual CBO report that Van Hollen and others are waving around—the one that assesses the effects of the Republicans’ repeal bill. What does it really say? Does it say that Obamacare will cut health-care costs? No. Does it say that it will reduce costs in some other way, and so cut federal spending to reduce the deficit? No. It says that the enormous tax increases in the law are even greater than the enormous spending increases in the law. It says Obamacare would increase taxes by about $770 billion over the next ten years, and increase spending by about $540 billion. That’s a very peculiar path to deficit reduction.
Put another way, that CBO assessment of the Republican repeal bill that Van Hollen and others are waving around says that the repeal to be voted on this coming week would, over the next ten years, reduce taxes by $770 billion and cut spending by $540 billion. It says it quite plainly: “CBO anticipates that enacting H.R. 2 [the repeal bill] would probably yield, for the 2012-2021 period, a reduction in revenues in the neighborhood of $770 billion and a reduction in outlays in the vicinity of $540 billion, plus or minus the effects of forthcoming technical and economic changes to CBO’s and JCT’s projections.”
Obviously it would be best to reduce spending by an even greater amount than we reduce taxes over the next decade—and of course the Republican House is proposing to do just that through its cuts in discretionary spending, and hopefully will also do so through entitlement reform. But the notion that a massive tax increase and a massive spending increase are the way to reduce the deficit hardly seems like the message the Democrats should want to be pushing just now. If they want to spend their time informing Americans that the Republican repeal bill is a huge tax cut and a huge spending cut, it seems to me Republicans ought to welcome that.
I would really like to see libtards try to take their defense of obozocare back to their districts and try to sell it to their constituents again… xDDDDDD
Since they weren’t interested the first time, I’m sure they aren’t interested in what their constituents think this time either… xDDDD
Here is something to think about when are legislators are debating obozocare….
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/7/buck-up-and-stop-obamacare/
those degenerates that support another major handout program are a slim minority of the people that are against it….
Happy DR Martin Luther King Jr Day!!!!!!!!!
I had to capitalize the “DR” to insure you trailer park rejects feel even less secure about yourselves!! Yep, you mullet head, snag-a-tooth, hound dog humpin, chewing tobacco munchin, pick-up driving, first cousin fuckin, Obama hatin, no job having, wish they were conservative, true republican reject crackas, I write this post with love!!! It has been a while since I told ya to put some love in your fuckin hearts, but I see the message is starting to spread. Yep, good ol boy McCain is starting to change his tune, now calling OUR President a MAVERICK!!!! Like Obama says, change is good!!!
Yep, it is a bad time to be a nutsack sucking teabagger trying to spread hate. One sunny day, one wack job decides to shoot and kill innocent people for no reason, after listening to all the bullshit you conservacraps been yacking. After seeing your words come to life, all of a sudden, republicans are changing their tune. Unity is now the new thing.
I am not one to lecture, but as my boy Malcolm X once said, “looks like the chickens came home to roost!”. You spread hate, hateful things happen. If I remember correctly, no brothas of color were injured in that act of hate. Four eyed Palin is changing her tune about putting targets on democrates faces on her website. Silly bitch!!!
Well, all can rejoice in the fact that this is BLACK MAN ONE’s birthday. Let us spread the word how MLK helped you redneck crackas see the light. Freedom has rung, loud and proud!!! Rang so loud, that a black man has made it to the white house, and not as a janitor. That’s right whitey, your commander and chief is too, a soul brotha. Not a drop of red neck blood in his system. Barack Obama, last I checked, I have never met a white man with the last name Obama. His father was from AFRICA, not Europe. His momma, though she is white, went black and never went back! He is a successful President and history will show that he achieved more in two years than most Presidents acheived in 8. The fact that some bitter white men claim he is a bad President does not change the fact that he is a major success and that history will prove that.
Well, in closing, I dedicate this post to a little angry faggot named Gregahomo. May your daughter grow up and marry a black man with dread locks, and may your sons be homos like you.
put alil love in your heart bitches
and happy mutha fuckin MLK day
8)
Enigma. How many times am I going to need to FLUSHHHHH. Or are you like the toilet at the stadium after a pro ball game. so full of shit it’s become impossible to flush.
Hey 10,
That sounds like your mom’s throat after I bust a few loads down it. I see, like mother, like son.
Put alil love in your hearts
🙂
@Enigma aka YESobama: You preach love and unity, but your comments are dripping with hatred and anger. I bet you own a lot of posters and like to wear glasses with odd frames that make you look smart. You quote Malcom X and Obama because they’re different, and you want to be different too, but you’re mediocre, and you always will be. That’s the real source of your anger, you have never done anything of significance in this world and you never will, so you quote great men who have said great things and done even greater things and you scream to the rooftops that what you believe and the people you like are great, significant and (most importantly to you) different, because being different is your only real source of identity, you can’t make a name for yourself in the eyes of “normal” society, so you choose to portray everything about yourself as “different”, which makes you feel better because it allows you to disregard your complete lack of unique qualities or accomplishments. Let me guess, you’re just the victim of circumstance, an unappreciated scholar with limitless potential, but you’ve been held down by society and fallen into obscurity, so you identify yourself as different and it gives you a warm and fuzzy feeling of importance….how sad would the world be if men such as those you quote had gone through life with the same lack of cojones.
I don’t have time to respond to the countless idiotic attempts at logic in your little diatribe, but at the very least, take your own advice, put alil love in your heart [my friend]
Hey Nice,
Do you realize you actually touched my whittle heart??? Excuse me while I wipe a (sniff) fucking tear from my eye. My heart was so touched, I printed out your heartfelt bullshit and wiped my ass with it after taking a dump!!!
Look dumbass, this is a blog site. If what I said offended you, scroll down or stop reading. My life is very great, I have accomplished alot, probably more than you. I come here for fun and leisure, and nothing makes my heart feel with glee more than pissing off losers like you. You took how long, 20,30 minutes out your life to attempt a analize me, only to do a piss poor job??? Suck my nutts beeotch!!!
Look Nice, I DO preach unity and love, to those who deserve it. My works of art are aimed at a chosen few, aka, racist and bigots. If you don’t like it, go fuck yourself, and your grandma too!!! I ain’t stopping, especially, not for a cry baby cracka with a guilty conscience.
put alil love in your heart
8)
Hey Nice,
Enigma aka YESobama is nothing but a fraud if not an outright hypocrite. These kind of simple minded people when they have no substance to their cause will [always] turn to dumping on people as a cover up to their true nature which is plain old mean and nasty. When you come across this type of turd just do what most people call a courtesy flush. It helps to get rid of the stink caused by all the fake “unity and love”. Once again Enigma aka YESturd… FLUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 🙂
Hi 10!!!
I see my little cowardly racist is back. Did you miss me??? It is funny to me how, when I speak to the mean spirited turds on this site, in the manner inwhich they deserve to be spoken too, cowards like yourself crawl out from under the rock you were hidding under and voice an opinion. I have yet too see you say anything to those who spread hatred. I have not seen 10 defend the integrety of his politcal leader, or any non-white on this site. Nope, you cry foul when someone like myself, who enjoy dumping all the hatred YOU PEOPLE like to spread on this site, back on your meat head, where it belongs. So, 10 inches in your mouth, STFU or start standing for something. Either you will be true to your racist self, OR, you will put some love in your heart, and let me do what I do to your fellow racist.
put alil love in your heart
😉
Call me what you will. You are obviously a fake.
And…FLUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Buh bye, obozocare, buhbye! xDDDDDDDD
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/258484/florida-judge-strikes-down-ientiretyi-obamacare-daniel-foster
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
More on the undoing of the heinous obozocare debacle
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/31/unconstitutional-florida-judge-strikes-down-obamacare-mandate-full-decision-embedded/
justice is served. finally
Hey Greggahomo,
Only in your dreams!!
Hey 10,
Flushhhhh, what is that exactly, the way you go home everyday, being the little racist turd that you are???!!! LOL!!!
I got your flush right here, all hairy and soaking in sweat. Now do what you do best and jugle my nuts in your mouth like the good hamster that you are!!
put alil love in your heart
🙂
To continue with this conversation is useless. I’ve found myself lowering myself to your level. Not anymore. I”M DONE!!!
Good 10,
Now STFU!!!!
🙂
But I’ll still be around to Flush as needed. FLUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
I am white and I have absolutely no healthcare at all and if you told me you were hurt somewhere else and had received free and excellent health card I would not be impressed, I would probably walk away from the conversation. So again this is BS.
Hey 10
And I will be around to tell you to suck deeezzzz nutts!!!
put alil love in your heart
🙂
White people, well all people, also enjoy http://www.NakedHipster.com. Mainly because the girls are hot and don’t have clothes on. Usually those two things go well together. You know, the hotness and the nakedness.
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@10> don’t waste your time on enigra, he’s been around this board for years, trying desperately to make queer negroes relevent to any discussion of current events without the mentality to form a cogent thought… he is currently and always has been obsessed with penis envy and marvel for anybody that has half a brain and still refuses to believe sniffing paint kills brain cells… xDDDDD
libtards relative morality bs, has him believing if he is breathing, his opinion matters….
his only……….. connection to human existance… is online..
nobody stops to find out what that crazy person on the corner babbling to himself thinks about anything unless you can’ t make that instant judgement of appearances… the anonymity of the “world wide web” is just a platform for many more nutbags to get an audience they never get in real life… xDDDD
Hey Greg,
Coming from a lifetime loser like yourself, I take that as a compliment.
hahahahahaha
Oh yeah, how is YOUR business coming along son?
Look moron, the only one babbling to themself is YOU. You get on this site and blame everybody but YOURSELF for your, ahem, SHORT-comings!!
Obama’s taking food of my kids plate………
Liberals are ruining that………
Democrates are destroying the country…….
Boo hoo hoo, cry me a river punk.
You are joke, your post are meaningless and it will always be that way. hahahaha
You know, I wasn’t going to do this, but then I figures, why not!!! So, here we go…………
😉
Happy 28th Day Of Black Man Appreciation Month.
Sadly, this is the last day of such a wonderful month. But thanks to Gregahomo, it is going out with a blast!!!! The insult gods have once again blessed me with a jewel!!!
🙂
“Gregalicious on February 27, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Having been run out of my own business, and forced by the state to work in a private sector union through over regulation, too damn high taxes, and exasperating an illegal immigration problem by making this a sanctuary state…. I have first hand knowledge of what the union label really stands for….”
Hey Greg,
Shut the fuck up!!!!
hahahahahaahaha
hahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahaha
Once again, you prove to all on this site how big a LOSER you are!!! You can’t satisfy your wife, you can’t run your own company and you are just an all round LOSER!!!
What happened with the business, you learned the hard lesson that you have to make a PROFIT???? Did the concept of doing a good job mean anything to you. They say that the cream floats to the top, no, not that cream homo, meaning the best of the best rises to the top. If you did your job good, you would still have your business today. No wonder you are always crying about not being able to put food on your table for your kids.
hahahahahahahaha
hahahahahahahaha
You racist loser!!!! You have once again made me laugh. ha ha hahaha!!! Maybe you should write a letter to Obama for a bail out too!! Oh yeah, you probably did, and he told you “hell no, find another job, BOY!!”.
All is now understood about you son.
Now go back to your favorite pasttime, the receiving end of the gloryhole, and be all that you can be.
put alil love in your heart
🙂
You’re getting a stiffy????? What, you on another GAY PORN website??? Must be, ya lil faggot!!! Hahahaha!!!
Here is something for you to get a mighty one incher……, my nutts in your mouth!!!
hahahahahahaha
Hey Coon,
suck a dick. hahahahaha
Happy Black Man Appreciation Month!!! Day 27!!!
@Greg, chuckle you wanna be conservatives are amusing.. you point me to a trailer park refugee Ann Coulter and pretend she knows anything about the truth… claim to be a conservative, and offer up your idiotic claims of what President Obama has done… as if the reality of what he has done, is evidident everywhere.. the evidence is all around you, yet you refuse to open your big eyes and look at it.. let alone acknowledge the complete success of our beloved President.
Greg, you were a dumbass, you are a dumbass, and you will continue to be a dumbass!!! You spend what little free time you get in prison, coming on this site to spread stupidity. You are not a true conservative, you are just an idiot!!!
We feign GWB cause ……. HE DESERVED IT!!!! Two wars, a great recession, housing problems…etc just to name a few.
Please don’t take this out of context, and recieve it with the way it was intended because I mean it sincerely, go fuck yourself!!!!!!
You fruitcakes, live in a fantasy world of your own making, your complete disregard isn’t conatgious, believable, or even comprehensible in light of the facts that your ilk ignore… until you come to terms with the reality, that you fruitcakes are wrong about everything, we have nothing in common.. a self described “conservative” is just some dumbass fruitcake afraid to call themselves a racist anymore..
Put alil love in your heart
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Gregalicious aka YESobama on February 26, 2011 at 8:55 am
Hi!!!!!
Happy 25th Black Man Appreciation Day,
It’s the post with the most!!!!
Hey Gregahomo,
S.T.F.U!!!!!!
I’m back with another brotha friendly installment of P.W.T History moment. Thanks Coon, without you, none of this would be possible!!!!
Hey Greg,
Who cares, STFU!!!!
Hey Coon, bite the big one!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA
Now down back where you belong, on the bottom of this page like the scum that you are.
Ize me, Brett. Who you Ize?
Me? Ize brett, I nose you all bin waitin’ wit da baited breth fors anotha ‘stallment aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..
Poor
White
Trash History?????????????????????????????????????????????
Mont
Daze tweenty fo, an onlee fo mo, ho.
So, yoze askin, ware our genus Gregamamas? He jus cumin outta da Ripple haze an he tryin ta find religions in Eur-up’, cuz why? Ize his cuz, dat why.
Dat givin me an idea, maybe I cans gettin ya ta belivin we done bringin da religions ta you black folk.
Yep, befo you brings us ova, you folk all belivins da blackies comin to Americas fo da Religion freedums, bullsheeeeeet..
Accordins ta Coonmamas, an he da expert, da religions startin in Eur-up’ wit dat famous god Mombuttu Tutu Frutu Von Voodoo.
Afta the priszenz don bringin us ova from Eur-up on da luxury liner “Da Crack-uh Go He Go 1″ we ammediatleez learnin doze sabages ova whiteys how ta stickin needles in da voodoo doll, offerin’ da gods roasted’ turkee, sweet potatoe wits da giblins gravy, plenties a chestnuts stuffins’ an hamhocks, we den showin ya hows ta dancin dat crackaboo trot o so hot.
Well, I donts needs ta tells ya, dats hows we bringin ’bout da Tanksgivins’.
An da rest? Well, dat why we gettin a mont alls to us!
Americas witout da crackies, fuggetaboutit!!!!!!
I seein’ ya.
Otay? Otay!!!
Happy 23th Black Man Appreciation Day!!!!!!!
Hey Coon,
You are a true DUMBASS Coon, Look on any globe and you will see that on the northern most tip of Mother Africa is the birth place of religion. You dumbass, I knew you couldn’t read, but this is ridiculous. How can you just move a place over a sea and place it on another continient just to prove an idiotic point. Also, as I stated before, muslims don’t have blond hair and blue eyes, THEREFORE, you make a moot argument. Your beloved “middle east” is non-white too, you stupid fuck!!! Learn your geography dumbass.
Last I checked, Muslims didn’t have blond hair and blue eyes!!! Also, they too, were on the great continient of Mother Africa!!!! Along with all the religious landmarks, home of Muhammad, JESUS, the Coran’ and the Bible. SOOO, while your people were still in caves scribbling on walls, we created the foundation for your kind to imatate. As for slavery, tribal war is tribal war. Don’t forget, the original slaves of America were in fact….WHITE!!!!
Now, as I was saying………..
Just think, way back when in the great continent of Africa, the brothas were building pyramids while the Europeans were stacking rocks!!! Pyramids or stonehendge, take your pick. LOL!!!!!!!
Howdy!
Dis here Billy Bob ta gives ya daze tweenty aaaaaaaaaaa….
Poor
White
Trash History????????????????????????????????????????????
Mont.
Why me’s? Cause Jessie Lee rimin’ wit tweenty.
Well, it not rimin’ but Cooterl, other cuz Cooter an Gregsafaggot till sleepin off da Ripple hi, so dey nominamatin’ me ta comes up wit sumptin’.
Well, I aint got nuttin’.
So, I gess I done gettin hi wit the cuziziz’s.
I seein ya!!!
Happy 20th Black Man Appreciation Day!!!!!!!
An wez Appreciatin mo an mo each day!!!!!!
The Cracka is back, just like the herpes bump on the tip of my two inch dick. hahahahahaha!!!!! :p
It’s the post with da most, the blog that never ends, you fucking dumb trailer park crackah!!!!
I heard ya missed me so here I am a girl, to make you feel better. Put your nutts so nice and sweaty and ready for my big STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKER mouth!!! LOL!!!
So nice, I gotz to say it twice!!!
I’m back Coon, just like the herpes bump on the tip of you two inch dick. hahahahahaha!!!!!
It’s the post with da most, the blog that never ends, you fucking redneck racist cracker!!!!
I heard ya missed me so here I am girl to make you feel better. My nutts are nice and sweaty and ready for your big redneck STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKER mouth!!! LOL!!!
Welcome to the party Paulie4,
Everybody has their big black dicks in the mouth of that STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKERS mouth!!! hahahaha
You are now part of us, welcome to our level boy!!!
Paulie4 is an idiot,
Just like the ostriche, with his head buried in the sand, he has no idea what he is talking about. As usual!!!
“In my estimation, and it’s the correct estimation, there is probably no single government expense as wildly wasteful as trains. Really, public transpiration as a whole is wasteful. In a typical community less than 5% of the commuting public uses public transportation yet often 25% of the transportation budget is spent on public transportation.”
Obviously you live in the back woods of Seattle Paulie, because if you lived in a civilized area, you would realize that public transportation is a necessity. it helps to curb crowded roadways and lack of parking. Most urban areas lack parking for large amounts of cars, therefore, parking is at a premium. So, if you can get a large amount of people of the roads and onto public transportation, it eases the stress on highways and byways.
Sad, just sad!!!!
As for being around “THOSE” people, I know who you’re talking about Paulie4, P.W.T, I have a hard time dealing with them too. But, I am very tolerant so I give em a fair shake on things. Just look at how I put up with that STUPID FUCKIN TEXAN CRACKER!!! But hey, albino monkeys need attention sometimes!!!
Shaddap ya STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKER!!!!!!!!!
You did nothing but receive my foot up your butt and my sack in your mouth. LOL!!!!!!
Silly cracker, tricks are for kids. hahahahahahahahaha
I’m baaaack!!!!!
Yep, I sure did, and guess what, I am going to keep on taking his moniker, YOUR moniker, and any other racist moniker I please, and there is NOTHING you can do about it!!!!! HAHAHAhahahaha!!!!
Matter of fact, here’s a lil blast from the past, a reminder of your wanna be glory days. LOL!!!
Remember that name SON, it’s been a long time since you used it. I TOOK your name and made it mine. You borrow my name but I still use it at my leasure!!! And you claim you are the winner of our debabe, HA!!! Keep borrowing my name KID, and I will continue to use my name “Whitey” at my leasure.
put alil love in your heart!!!
And now, back to the norm…………
Hey coon, fuuuuuuck youuuuuuuu!!!! LOL!!!!!
What was I saying, oh yeah……
You wish!!! haha!!!
Hello Coon the BAFFOON!!!
How are you today? Did you wake up on the wrong side of the rock again? I see you’re still trying to get some credit for your non-sense you type. *chuckle* How cute, but you are still a nobody and you have to hide in MY SHADOW!!!HAHAHAHA!!! And you wonder why I don’t get offended by your post, ha, stupidity does not offend me. It amuses me, now you on the other hand, you get highly offended by intelligence, and for that, I will continue to offend you with wisdom. So go ahead and twist my words, it took me less than two minutes to type this unlike yourself, who takes all day to think of something to type, and then I take another second to add all this to it just for fun……….
hahaha
Awww Greggypoo,
You look like you put sooooo much time and effort into typing that little diatribe, I would hate to bury it.
OOOOOPS I did it again,
sent you baaaack
to the bottom of the page!!!
I like that song!
Well anyways……….
Did I do that?????
OOOOPS, back to the bottom you go!!!
Oh well, mistakes were made….NOT!!!!!
HAPPY 17TH BLACK MAN APPRECIATION DAY!!!!
Awwwwww, what’s the matter Coonie Poo???? You getting mad cup cake??
What’s that, is that a tear in your eye??? Is daddies little girl about to cry????
Did I huut your whittle feelwings???? Get the fuck over it you STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKER!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
and now……..
Again, I say BORING!!!!
Paulie4, STFU!!!!!!
Oh yeah,
Hey COON, with all the trash talk you have been doing, I have noticed you have YET to use your trusty ol name “Whitey”!!! I guess my thunder is more effective than you want to admit, SON!!!
Keep using my name Son, keep acknowledgeing that MY name is more significant than yours.
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Put alil love in your heart BOY!!!
Hey Greg,
SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
Hey Coon the baffoon,
Hey Coon,
I see you put alot of effort into your post now. Guess my little pep talk had an effect of you, seeing that you went back to your old name, COON. Hahahahaha
Guess your dumb ass realized that I was getting credit for your work as well as my own. hahahaha LOL, silly cracker, tricks are for kids!
Still too much of a BITCH to use your ol trusty name, “Whitey”. hahahahahahaha
You lil bitch, and you have the nerve to say that you beat me in any kind of debate. HA, you mental midget, shut your STUPID FUCKING TEXAS CRACKER ASS the fuck up beeeeotch!!!!!!!
Put alil love in your heart
Back to the repost…….
Yeah, you BLEW me alright Coon the BAFFOON, I can’t remember the last time I got my balls sucked like that……, oh yeah I do, when your mom BLEW me too. Hey Coon, you are still a shell of the asshole you thought you once were, you disappear and then come back for your ass whopping, part two. hahahahahahahahaha
Gregafaggot, there is no pleasing you. Even if Obama butt fucked with a golden dildo, you would still complain. Well, maybe you will be satisfied, ya lil STUPID FUCKIN TEXAN CRACKER FAGGOT!!!!!
BWAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
Paulie4, I said it before and I will say it again, you my little potatoe sac sucking friend, are a dumbass. Just like that loser Greg, if Obama handed you a million dollar check, you would still find reason to complain, so SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY!!!!
and now….
As I said before………..
Nah, I will stay right here BOY!!!!
Hey You FUCKING STUPID TEXAN CRACKER!!!!!!
You asked for the thunder BOY, now you are going to get it!!!
Bwahahahahaha my big dick in your mouth Gregafaggot!!!!
Fuck you!!!!
As long as I am pissing you off, I will keep this up.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
So that’s what you call it!!! Wow Paulie4 Biden, you are our “Satillite Friend”!!! I am glad we make you think that your diatribe looks interestion. But in reality, it’s just
BORRRIINGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!
Now STFU!!!!!
Now back to the norm………..
Hey Gregafaggot & Paulie4 Biden,
BORRRINGGGG!!!!!!!!
STFU!!!!
Now, back to the norm……
Not so fast,
Fuuuuuck Yooouuuuu Beeeeotch!!!!!
Stay in your place SON!!!!!
Get to the back of the post BOY!!!!!
Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Happy Day 15 of Black Man Appreciation Month!!!
Well lookie, lookie here, *chuckle*, I’ve got a STUPID TEXAN CRACKER calling herself not only a coon, but now a big time Obama fan. What a year!!!
Paulie4 Biden,
As stated before, and below, you are an idiot. You talk stupidity, all the while thinking you sound intelligent.
EPIC FAIL on that!!!
You, nor your buddy Greg have yet to state any kind of solution to healthcare. I know, you believe that privatization of it and education, would be Gods gift to America, but I have a hard time believing that the share holders would really put the needs of the students/patients before their profits. And insurance, let’s just say Joe Pesci said it best in lethal weapon 3, when he yells out…..”THEY FUCK YOU IN HOSPITAL, THEN AFTER THE HOSPITAL FINISH FUCKING YOU, ALONG COMES THE INSURANCE MAN TO FUCK YOU SOME MORE!!!!!” That was some years ago, but those words still ring true to this day. Oh yeah, smooth move with your pops asshole! How big of you to recommend he die for the greater good. You are an asshole Paulie4 Biden. May you and your lover Greg get buttfucked a thousand times over with a splintered, wooden dildo!!!!!
You said……..
“I’ve writen in the past that my own Pop needs a transfusion every month. Costs a ton! All picked up by his insurance. I did some research and found out that he’d be sent home to die if he was Swedish. I’ve talked to him about reducing his burden to society and helping the common good but strangely the old bugger just wants to keep living.…some people!”
Asshole.
Here is yet ANOTHER reason why the teabaggers are the laughing stock of America!!!
I call this installment, “Idiots gone wild” pt 1!!!
I know there will be a part 2 coming soon. BWAHAHAHA!!!
You say Paulie4 Biden……
“One of the many things that I like about Ann Coulter is that she really understands a few key points about modern Democrats; such as they are completely wrapped up in public education, and she won’t let the American public forget it.”
I am having a hard time understanding why focusing on public schools is such a bad thing. Call me a republican, but I would think that education would be high on the list of government priorities.
It’s like saying flour and sugar should be a high priority on the mind of a baker. DUH!!!
Do you even think before you type, Paulie4 Biden?
Are you so caught up in “free enterprise” that you forget the real purpose of Gov.?
You already told on yourself as far as where you allegence stands…….
“Klaus knows that my business is related to the stock market so he descended upon me and proceeded to start talking about the stock market and how he’s making money there since his business isn’t doing very well while all the time liberally sharing the German Opinion. When I voiced the opinion that it was over regulation and government intervention in the market place that was hurting American business Klaus looked like he was about to invade Poland! ”
You could care less about the state of the country, all you care about is your stocks. All that garbage you type has nothing to do with the country as a whole, but your bottem line, or better yet, the bottem line for your employer.
This explains alot about your Anti-Obama reteric, he is putting a leash on vampires like yourself. hahaha. That’s what you get. Parties over LOSER!!!!
Oh yeah, you said……
“We had a good, high spirited conversation, where I explained, (“Splained” in Oakland) how the housing crises was caused by the government allowing lending institutions to transfer the risk of making bad loans from their own books onto the books of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. By the end of that conversation I believe we had a new convert to the ranks of economic conservatives! ”
This is why I say morons like your ilk have such a bad memory, all that you mentioned was under the REPUBLICAN WATCH!!! Yes, your beloved CONSERVATIVES were in office when the economy went belly up. How soon we forget. Now, with things getting back on track thanks to our beloved President, you complain and fuss foolishness and nonsense about the job he is doing. A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie. You can lie on him all you want, but history will show he was what this country needed at this time. Whether or not the people will be smart enough to realize it now remains to be seen.
Face it Paulie4 Biden, you are so caught up in your anti-gov. propaganda, you have lost all sight of reality. Move out the back woods of Washington St and join the rest of America.
Either that or STFU!!!!!
PS,
Since you’re such an expert on Australian economy, move to the land down under and STFU some more!!!!
oh yeah!!!!!!!
Hiya Hiya Hiya!
Ize dead-e-katin dis too mee keen fok in Wes Verginee. Mommee, tellz my cuz-in dat I luvz him!!!! Wash My Sheetz!!!
Ize gonnma cheats a lil, and posts daze 8 (no ways I gonna try and spells dat #) aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa….
Happy
Poor
White
Trash
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Mont!!
A stats of a new week in us glolious histories.
Wow, that Peg Bundy some kin a womens heh? Fat, Uglee and a stringy headed ho! Dat why she wearin dat bandana, magine lookin dat head a brillo fo brekfasts? Watt bout dey sowin off dat whole tub a lard on da box, septin fo her uglee head onlee?
EwwwwwwwwwEEEEEEEEEEE, bet she showin a hole bunch a armpit an crotch sweat. Well, at least she done savin you po black folk from da starvations, she done it too, really.
Trust me, wood Gregalicious lie? Doze a cockroach spread filth? I thinkin dat a good analogees.
Hey backs to da list.
Ize gonna nominate my cuz Adolf.
Dis guy my hero. Had his mombo dick cut off an he still lookin fo love in all da wrong places, watt balls dis guy has. In facts dat all he got left, but he dont care, he gonna still put doze narrow lips to good use. He now workin for da vetnarian collectin sperm samples.
Dat ill do it fo today, see ya tomorrows.
Coochie Coochie Coo from da Cracky Cracky CRACKA!
Ronnie Raygun….Ronnie Reagon….oh yes I love that pretty mamma..
He got that big melon head me like so much…
He got that them woobly ears I love to touch…
Ronnie Raygun….Ronnie Reagon….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
No one can come close to havin smaller lips..
So many dream he wrap them around their dicks…
Ronnie Raygun….Ronnie Reagon….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
He have the hair so stinky…
and he slither about like a slinky…
Ronnie Raygun….Ronnie Reagon….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
Call him Socia-list
boy that get him pissed…
Ronnie Raygun….Ronnie Reagon….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
I luvs my Ronnie “the cock” Ray-gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gregsafaggot says………..
Gregalicious on February 8, 2011 at 2:39 pm
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
51% in a cnn viewer poll says no second term for obozo?!?
YEAH YEAH YEAH…his feckless, incompetent, in over his head negro, ass clown policies can’t even win support from his fruitcake base… his poll numbers are much lower among the exponentially more intelligent Fox viewers…BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!! BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!!!!
>>>>the ony people that still support obozo and negroes and queers… <<<<<<<>the ony people that still support obozo and negroes and queers… <<<<<<<<<< BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
I guess Obama is high on your support list faggot!!!!!
Boring!!!!!!!
Anyways…….
Hiya Hiya Hiya!!!
Ize me, da ignoramouse famous Laural and Hardy.
Well hi der Paulie,,,,,,, eh heh eh heh eh heh eh heh, thoze too knuckleheads waz sooooo hilarryius.
Did ya all missin me? Ize not posted fo 10 daze now, sorry ’bout dat.
Wait! Ijuz lookin back an Ize done posted.
Well sheeeeeeeet, Ize gots ta stop mixin da Ripple wit da crack Jack an come on back and take up da slack an talkin ma smack, but I aint taking no slack from any hack, gots it? Yep, dis crack-uh had enoff!
Watts I talkin ’bout Willis? You tell me, Ize got no ideaz.
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poor
white trash
History????????????????????????????????????????????
Mont
Het lez nominat Laural and Hardy.
‘Member dat epsode when Hardy done taken Becky cross da room, smacked da sheeeeet out a her, then grab her stringy hed, threw her cross da room, den give her a Bubba size lip lashin wit doze tiny lips a his?
Andy gots so jellus cause he done had dem skinny white boy lips an he says “Laurel, Ize so jellus dem big lips a yos’ watts can I do?” an Hardy smack him across dem lips an says “Dere Hardy, now yo a ofishal crack-uh, gets ta smackin ’round Becky so’s ya can be certified…heh heh heh, den Hardy done sayin, “ya big dummy, ‘its da big one, I comin ta see ya Elizabeth!” Po Elzabeth, she thinkin he meanin dat little white dick!
Damn, ya just dont see dat kind a actin now adaze, dat fo sho.
Hey, times fo me to git. Ize sees ya all tomorrows.
****hic hic….burppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp****
Coochie Coochie Coo from da CrackyCracky Crackah!!!
Happy 10th Day of Black Man Appreciation Day!!!!
hahaha
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I love that pretty mamma..
He got that narrow head me like so much…
He got that them woobly ears I love to touch…
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
No one can come close to havin smaller lips..
So many dream he wrap them around their dicks…
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
He have the hair so stringy…
and he slither about like a slinky…
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
Call him Socia-list
boy that get him pissed…
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
Ms Cleo, Deon Warrick and her psychic friends are his best friends…
but he turned his back on them…
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
Ms Cleo, Deon Warrick and her psychic friends say, but Ronnie you know us…
but that Ronnie no fool, he throw them under the bus…
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I like that pretty mamma..
Ronnie in that racist church for 20 years but he hear nada…
“I was too busy getting the kids baptized by the Voodoo Preast and being dada…”
Ronnie Reagan…Ronnie Ray-gun….oh yes I like that pretty mamma.
I luvs my Ronnie “the cock” Ray-gun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
R.I.P
My Love
Hiya Hiya Hiya!!!
It day 7teen aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…..
Black
What History??????????????????????????????????????????
Mont..
TODAY, yessum TODAY, i gots a special treats for yas, Ize gonna PROVES to ya, speciallly all dem racist, hows da blackies done dan saved Americas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, ya done dan heres me correctlee, SAVED AMERICAS!!!
Dis da sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet non a dem racist historee books tellin ya bout, this sheeeeeeeeeeeeet gonna nock ya sock off a yo cock bro….!!!!
Seemin this here brotha escapin from this here plantains masta by sneekin out one night an he done walkin at lease ten thowsan too hunid an fity miles, tru swamp fillin wit snake, alligateys, an house cats, killin em all wit his bare hands.
Finallees he gettin to his desinatin an he cants belivin it. It was true, wat his mammy always tellin him, son ya all goes to dis place an yous gonna save da black race an America, likes killin too birds wit one in da bush.
Well, I donts has ta tell ya who DAT was and what DAT place is, duz I?
Yep, you guessin it, dat man an dat place WAS…………………
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Cuz Crackmamas, how do I know he my cuz, Crackmamas cuz done told me he my cuz, still shakin da Ripple hi, so Ize back ta givin’ ya all………………………………………………………………
Days 8teen aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Poor
White History?????????????????????????????????????????
Mont
On dis daze in 1632 da crackas done comin ta Americas ’cause dey needin da vacations from alls da hard workin in You-rup rubbin two rocks tagetha. Dat how da white inventin da barbe-qewww.
Weze canmabulls back then ya know.
Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet, mannnnnnnnnnnn, dem baffoons tastes good, but it sho hard tellin whens they done. Sometim we gots ta burn a few till we gets it Wright. Some comes out as white as da snow.
a heh a heh a heh…duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh….
Anyways, we liken it so much, specially the hospitalities, free room an board an all the cottons we cin pick, wez desidin ta stay.
Donts listin to dat teaparty crap dat weze not likin it here, yas never sees us leavin ta go back ta Eu-rope, does ya?
I nose I dont want to be barbe-gewwwin’ my cuz Crackmamas.
Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet, mannnnnnnnnnnn, ewwwwwwwwww, dat baffoon stink.
Ize seein ya soon!
put alil love in your heart
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I’m pretty sure that black people also like having free health care…
Also, i live in Canada. Everyone here loves healthcare. EVERYONE
@lol>>> only in your small world little buddy…. you may have to look in the mirror and ask yourself what your father would see….
chances are, all he would see is a fruitcake who’s opinion doesn’t matter at all to anybody but himself and the fruitcakes who’s pickles he’s smooching….
Welcome back carter.. updated video…
http://www.redstate.com/deweyfromdetroit/2011/03/04/welcome-back-carter-the-updated-video/
obozocare funding douchebaggery revealed by his hhs secretary….
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/hhs-secretary-acknowledges-obamacare-budget-tricks/
if the truth or reality had any bearing at all on democunt ideological dogma, they would be out of business….
Too bad there would be no MRI if we were socialized. Preventative medicine and expensive screenings are not an option when your neighbors have to foot the bill. Yay, capitalism!!!!
that sounds more like something the rest of you “minorities” would be into
God bless you Jill, and I’m atheist.
Jill, we Canadians actually have pretty fantastic preventative medicine and expensive screenings (eg. MRI) despite our ‘neighbours footing the bill’. As a person with Cystic Fibrosis who spends a great deal of time in the hospital, I can attest to this.
Go public healthcare. The American healthcare system really does suck .
You must be talking about liberal Whites, conservative Tea Party Whites are totally against Health Care. Is this blog really making fun of the multi-culturalism that I learned in college? Where they group all people of the same race as being exactly alike? Is that your point?
Nothing is free – especially healthcare. “Free care” is just a person leeching off of the people who pay. And there’s a lot of that going on.
As in every other venue – “socialized healthcare” WRECKS actual healtcare. Oh – it works in countries with small, controlled, high-end quality populations, like Germany, and Dubai – but in places like the USA, and England, with no border control, and loads of Welfare leeches – quel horreur!
You need to really do some research on topics before you make assumptions, having lived all my life in a country with a pulic health care system (Canada) I wouldn’t trade it for anything, certainly not the system you have in the U.S. Univ ersal Health Care is not “free” health care, in our system we pay for it through payroll deductions and if you look at it realistically all we are doing is paying for health insurance – the big differance being that with our system if you land on bad times you are still looked after. in this country we tend to save the person first rather than worry about how deep his pockets are. I would sooner wait in line a bit and know that I’m going to be looked after regardless of how much money i have as oppossed to being tossed to the curb because my bank account isn’t big enough. The whole idea is based on having a little compassion for those who are less fotunate – I wonder how many people who are so dead set against it while they are healthy and have a couple of dollars change their tune after they are faced with a major illness and have run out of money and are subsequently denied treatment.
This is really just a right-wing blog, huh?
No, it’s pretty obvious this is a white liberal having a little fun with how our people act.
I’m white(more or less).I don’t have access to the best health insurance or “fanciest” hospital and never have.I would like to have socialized health care because for once I WOULD have access to affordable health care.
I’m not sure what the purpose of this site is. I’m white and in my mid fifties. I find that I now have to treat health care as a luxury item. My wife lost her job recently and we will now be selling our house and moving into an apartment. Maybe I should not be concerned about this situation because after all, I’m white so I probably deserve this. Everything I do and like is ridiculous and the object of snide commentary and ironic remarks. This is to be expected because my race is intrinsically evil. I have never hated anyone based on their race but this doesn’t matter in the least because the fruits of my hatred have been expressed for centuries by institutionalized racism to which I contribute by virtue of being white. I have contributed my time and money when possible to causes that I believe benefit all people but this is only white vanity playing to itself. Being white means that I am incapable of true empathy for people of another ethnicity or race. My adult daughter has Multiple Sclerosis which is a degenerative disease which affects mainly white people, primarily female, in mostly northern climates. This is probably one of those things that you can laugh about here if you are feeling particularly naughty. You know, things not to say to white people at cocktail parties, etc. Anyway, like most white people, I have used too many words to express myself and would like to sum this all up by suggesting this to other white people; perhaps the time has come for our race to stop procreating. All evidence points to the fact that the world would be a much better place without us. People would surely treat each other with much more humanity and justice would surely prevail in a world without white people. We have really contributed nothing positive to this world have we?
Yeah,u have not contributed in a way that wouldn’t end people crying.Your brothers invented the plane,of course something to appreciate but in the long run it is now contributing to unnatural gases…..look at an a.k47…a very good friend to sychos like you who think fighting in wars and killing is the best solution to feed your always existing pride and a solution to acquire wealth in black-owned under-developed regions especially Africa.Listen Mr Chief,FUCK OFF if you say you have not in your life hated people because they are not white like you
>Do you ever give yourself a second to think where this racism-fed hatred is taking this world to?
>Do you ever consider what people from other races think of when they see whites,especially we blacks since we are the most oppressed?
>Do you ever ponder where it will end?
Watch your mouth idiot and keep your opinions to yourself……you’re not the only one who uses this blog
Swallow it hard
Pink men,you produce of faggotic arts
rednecks are from the white race only
Dumbass!!
@torito>> chuckle, you negroes hysterical whining about racism is amusing to me, never has there been a more victimized race in the history of the world…
except maybe the Jews, but they still manage to do pretty well for themselves..
not negroes, they think pissing and moaning about how persecuted they are is going to get the white man to keep supporting them.. they vote democrat because of their promise of something for nothing, and willingly enslave themselves to their idiotic ideological dogma…
while I’m sure you’re going to call me a racist for thinking your are just a lazy, incompetent negro just like your idiot messiah obozo… xDDDD
well… my pickle smooching, nut hugging, obozo fluffing fruitcakes… the time has come and I must embark on my next adventure into the sandbox that is the cradle of civilization…
I think it kind of fitting that I leave you with some more of the wisdom I’ve benevolently bestowed upon you ingrates for better than a year now… xDDDD
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When the chickens come home to roost
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Posted: June 25, 2011
1:00 am Eastern
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There are certain laws that really don’t change, like the law of gravity. It basically says that things tend to fall downward, or what goes up must come down. There is the second law of thermodynamics, which says that all things are breaking down. Then there is the biblical law of sowing and reaping.
This law is illustrated dramatically in the book of Esther. This Old Testament book tells the true story of King Xerxes who ruled over Persia, the superpower of the day. The king decided to throw a great feast, and all the kingdom was invited. Everyone was getting very drunk, and people do crazy things when they are drunk. So the king decided that he wanted to parade the beautiful Queen Vashti before his subjects. Vashti wanted nothing to do with it, and she flat out refused.
This created a national crisis, and the advisers to the king convinced him to get rid of Vashti and replace her with another queen, lest there be rebellion among all the wives in the kingdom. So they decided to hold a beauty contest. All the attractive young virgins of Persia were eligible to be in this contest, and many had the hope of winning and becoming the next queen. A young girl named Hadassah, also known as Esther, who had been raised by her older cousin Mordecai, entered the contest because it was required. Much to the chagrin of the Persian girls, no doubt, Esther won and became the queen. God was setting his people in place for the work he was about to do.
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Then a villain named Haman emerged. Second only to the king himself, he was strutting about one day and noticed that everyone bowed before him out of fear, except Mordecai. This angered Haman to the point that he not only wanted to kill Mordecai for this act of rebellion, but he wants to kill Mordecai’s people as well.
Haman used his influence with the king, and the king unwittingly signed off on a decree stipulating that in 11 months, every Jew in the kingdom would be killed, and their property would be plundered.
So Mordecai and his fellow Hebrews were sentenced to death. Mordecai went to his cousin Esther and reminded her that God did not allow her to win that beauty contest so she could live in the lap of luxury. God put her in that position to use her influence for good.
It was a dicey situation for Esther, because if she approached the king without being summoned, she could lose her life in the process. So she asked Mordecai and all the Jews to fast and pray for her as she prepared to approach the king.
Man has his will, but God will always have his way. And when the king saw Esther, he welcomed her. So Esther invited the king and Haman to a banquet. That night, the king couldn’t sleep, so he ordered that something from the history of the Persian Empire be read to him. One of the aides read to him the story about Mordecai’s foiling the plot against his life. Then the king learned that Mordecai had never been rewarded for saving his life. As Esther and Mordecai were asleep, God was at work. It was all coming together.
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The next morning, to his dismay, Haman was required to parade Mordecai through the streets on one of the king’s horses, wearing the king’s royal robes. To add insult to injury, at the banquet Esther gave for the king and Haman, she revealed Haman’s plot to destroy the Jews. The king ordered Haman to be hanged on the very gallows he had prepared for Mordecai.
For Haman, the chickens came home to roost. He reaped what he had sown. The Bible says, “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.”
God is always present and at work, whether we feel him or not. Interestingly, God’s name is never specifically mentioned in the book of Esther, yet he was present in every scene and in the movement of every event, bringing everything toward his intended purpose. And the same is true in your life.
We often expect God to intervene in big, supernatural ways. And he will do that. But a lot of times God is working in the details. God can take impossible situations and turn them around for his glory. Things looked bleak in the beginning of this book: an indifferent king, a wicked Haman in power, a paralyzed people condemned to a certain death, and Mordecai headed to the gallows. But the people prayed – and God intervened.
The story ends with Mordecai in Haman’s position of power, the Jews were saved from a certain death, and Haman swinging by his own rope. That is called perfect justice. So keep praying about your particular situation. What even appears to be a bad thing may ultimately turn out to be a good thing. Sometimes disasters can turn out to be great opportunities for God to work in your life.
Everything we do eventually will bear some kind of fruit. It is the law of sowing and reaping.
If what we are sowing is bad, then the harvest will be bad – either when deeds come to fruition in this life or when they are exposed at God’s judgment seat on that final day. There are no secrets with God. No matter how cleverly it may be hidden, no matter how well it is disguised, the Bible says our sin will find us out.
It may happen tomorrow, or it may not be revealed until we are in eternity. But it will find us out. We have God’s word on it. That is what happened to Haman. He devised a wicked plot, and he ended up hanging on the very gallows he built for someone else.
The good news is that if you are sowing spiritual things, you will reap blessings in your life. The Bible says, “He who sows righteousness will have a sure reward.”
Every day when you get up, the decisions you make and the actions you take will have an effect on your character and destiny. It has been said, sow a thought, reap an act; sow an act, reap a habit; sow a habit, reap a character; sow a character, reap a destiny. What kind of crop have you been planting lately?
Read more: When the chickens come home to roost http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=315093#ixzz1QJA4j1lK
what are you sowing?
well… my pickle smooching, nut hugging, conservaturd fluffing fruitcakes… the time has come and I must embark on my next adventure into the sandbox that is the cradle of the receiving end of the gloryhole…
I think it kind of fitting that I leave you with some more of the bullshit I’ve benevolently bestowed upon you ingrates for better than a year now… xDDDD
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When bullshit comes home to roost.
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Posted: June 25, 2011
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looks as if I will remain unemployed thanks to obozo! he does not realize how hard it is for a Stupid Texan, Mullett haired, rusty pick-up truck driving, budweiser beer drinking, pot gutted, missing teeth, gay Cracker with bad breath like me!!!! I guess I will not be milking the system and living off the fat of the land like I had hoped.
I just found out that the contractor I’m going to work for in Iraq was forced out of my business by obozo…. the contractor I’m going to work for is the only American contractor that does this kind of work…
what did obozo do, he gave the contract to the other company that does it which is European, so now instead of all those billions of tax payer dollars spent supporting the Troops in Afghanistan, filtering back into the US economy by giving those jobs to Americans working for an American contractor, all those billions are being squandered on Europeans…..
we foot the bill, we carry the load, and obozo gives away our money to douchebags that support a fascist leftwingnut agenda, and socialism, but can’t vote for him legally….
Bush wouldn’t do that. Remember that no bid fiasco about war time contracting??????? who gives a fuck what Europe is offering, the billions spent would have come right back into the US economy in a Win-win-win, now its another fucking misereable obozo disaster.
To make myself feeeeeel better, I will go to my ol trusty site to, let’s just say…….. release some tension.
http://www.thugoverloadblog.com/2011/01/big-dick-enigma-remy-mars/
Good bless this all American site!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t get this one. Considering the massive protests against healthcare that you can see any time you turn on the news (heck, this page has an ad for one on it), I don’t see you can say white people like socialized healthcare. I’d say it’s the exact opposite really.
Granted, I live in a very red state (Kentucky), so maybe this is just the writer’s own area.
@Ziggy – This blog is intended to make fun of hypocrites among upper class, liberal, yuppie-type white people. There are plenty of sites dedicated to making fun of the Tea Baggers, a type of “the wrong kind of white people” and the primary protesters against a public health care system.
Ironically, it’s the opposite way round in New Zealand. Some people (many of them white) think we should move to private health care rather than public health care, but they mostly only think this if they are healthy and therefore don’t have to worry about the cost of health care. When they get sick, they go to public hospitals.
But then, it stands to reason that, when someone gets sick, they will go to whatever hospitals actually do provide the services they need in their country, not the hospitals they think should be providing those services, so where people go when they are sick doesn’t tell you what they really believe.
While I get this one, for myself (despite lol being guilty of using the Canada and Europe lines for justtitsforrubbification), I work full-time and support my disabled mother; I get severe migraines 4 to 5 times a week and am on preventative medication for it (Topamax), as well as compazine for when the pain makes me nauseated, needless syringes (full of some kind of anti-psychotic that stops the migraine in it’s tracks) and migranol for immediate relief, as well as some painkillers. Those prescriptions alone, without insurance, add up to over 1000 dollars; take away the syringes and the migranol and I still pay 200 a month out of pocket. Thanks to Obama I’m now under my father’s insurance until I’m 26 (2 more years), add co-pays at 75 dorrar a pop for neurologist check-ups and that’s just to keep me “healthy” and able to hold a job (migraines run in my family, with my Mother being sick all my life.) So, as far as I’m concerned; I want free-health insurance simply because there’s no way in hell I can afford it right now (looked into trying for 2 years now), no one offers it at the kind of jobs I have/have had (took it away because it was too expensive a few years before I signed on), I don’t think it’s justified to pay $5000 for an ambulance ride if I get hit by someone else on top of medical costs, and think it should be based on/would gladly start paying for better/individualized health care the moment I was able to afford a privatized version.
For now though, up until a month ago, I had nothing and suffered for it due to simply being lower-middle class (low-class?) and will never be able to afford it until I improve my station in life; but sometimes, as a 23yr old child who has to take care of one disabled parent, pay rent to the other parent so he doesn’t lose his house, where I’ve recently been divorced simply because she couldn’t wait 2 months for me to keep said disabled Mother from losing the apartment and ending up on the street before I could leave the state with said ex-wife; sometimes, yeeaaaaahhhhhssssss, sometimes, I think it’s okay to want a penny or a nickel from everyone’s pocket considering how much I so badly want to give that penny/nickel myself, how often I give money to liver and kidney damaged homeless war veterans (let them buy booze, it’s what everyone else does on this godforsaken Earth), and so long as I keep up with the idea and desperate want to never turn it into some form or habitual systematic welfare teat for-which I shan’t ever, much like the Pit Bulls of Yore (Mamma), unclench my abhorrent jaw of sideways-morality from the fine succulence and mily-free-health-caramel goodness housed, forbidden, inside my ivory-chiclet fortress.
No, friends; I would have a very moral, less abhorred, more revered– through it’s adherence to the growl of justice and the right from our pretend system of right and wrong, –kind of jaw.
While I get this one, for myself (despite lol being guilty of using the Canada and Europe lines for justtitsforrubbification), I work full-time and support my disabled mother; I get severe migraines 4 to 5 times a week and am on preventative medication for it (Topamax), as well as compazine for when the pain makes me nauseated, needless syringes (full of some kind of anti-psychotic that stops the migraine in it’s tracks) and migranol for immediate relief, as well as some painkillers. Those prescriptions alone, without insurance, add up to over 1000 dollars; take away the syringes and the migranol and I still pay 200 a month out of pocket. Thanks to Obama I’m now under my father’s insurance until I’m 26 (2 more years), add co-pays at 75 dorrar a pop for neurologist check-ups and that’s just to keep me “healthy” and able to hold a job (migraines run in my family, with my Mother being sick all my life.) So, as far as I’m concerned; I want free-health insurance simply because there’s no way in hell I can afford it right now (looked into trying for 2 years now), no one offers it at the kind of jobs I have/have had (took it away because it was too expensive a few years before I signed on), I don’t think it’s justified to pay $5000 for an ambulance ride if I get hit by someone else on top of medical costs, and think it should be based on/would gladly start paying for better/individualized health care the moment I was able to afford a privatized version.
For now though, up until a month ago, I had nothing and suffered for it due to simply being lower-middle class (low-class?) and will never be able to afford it until I improve my station in life; but sometimes, as a 23yr old child who has to take care of one disabled parent, pay rent to the other parent so he doesn’t lose his house, where I’ve recently been divorced simply because she couldn’t wait 2 months for me to keep said disabled Mother from losing the apartment and ending up on the street before I could leave the state with said ex-wife; sometimes, yeeaaaaahhhhhssssss, sometimes, I think it’s okay to want a penny or a nickel from everyone’s pocket considering how much I so badly want to give that penny/nickel myself, how often I give money to liver and kidney damaged homeless war veterans (let them buy booze, it’s what everyone else does on this godforsaken Earth), and so long as I keep up with the idea and desperate want to never turn it into some form or habitual systematic welfare teat for-which I shan’t ever, much like the Pit Bulls of Yore (Mamma), unclench my abhorrent jaw of sideways-morality from the fine succulence and milky, free-health-caramel goodness, housed and forbidden, inside my ivory-Chiclets fortress.
No, friends; I would have a very moral, less abhorred, more revered– through it’s adherence to the growl of justice and the right from our pretend system of right and wrong, –kind of jaw.
ugh, someone needs to boot Gregalicious off this board. I’m so embarrassed for him!
I’m Canadian and can tell you life is easier knowing you can get sick and not go bankrupt from it.
Some things Americans need to know
1. You don’t die waiting in lines that’s a lie you’re fed so you stop asking for free healthcare, if you have a life threatening illness you go to the front of the line. If you need hip replacement surgery you go on a waiting list, this is where our healthcare system needs work, that and lack if beds in hospitals. (however you can pay for certain surgeries and tests to get it faster)
2. it’s not totally free, ( depending where you live) you pay a monthly fee based on your salary but it covers everything
3. Canadians never travel to the states without a minimum $2 million insurance coverage
4. If you do need emergency surgery in a foreign country Canada will reimburse you
I just wanted to say European people are white too! And you should try healthcare because it is the best thing that ever happen to modern society
@anonymous>> Gregaliscious hasn’t been on this board for a long long time.
You’re refering to a queer negro full of penis envy for me that uses my name frequently in an attempt to mislead fruitcakes, in hopes of pretending to be me makes him appear to have testicles.
enigra has given up using his own name because everyone knows him to be that nutbag on the corner screaming at traffic, that wandered into a coffee shop somewhere and was suddenly able to scream at traffic on the world wide web. xDDDD
You have just rubbed the lamp and just like a genie or the cock in your mouth, I came!!!!
Just like old times Gregafaggot, aka Coon the Baffoon, Mr All around dumbass Stupid Fucking Texan Unemployed Cracka!!!! My nutts, your mouth, you juggling more nutts in your big mouth than a fat face chipmonk in the fall. Think of it this way my nutt hugging, pickle smooching little beeotch, after Obama gets re-elected President, you can continue to draw your unemployment check and suck on the looooong dick of the government!!!!!
As stated before Greggahomo,
You can try to run from your past all you want ya stupid fucking texan cracka, but…………
uh, are you angry?….ya stupid fucking texan cracker??? i can see your red face pressed on the monitor…
Oops! I Did It Again!!
Hey, ya stupid fucking Texan crackahhhhh gregafaggotlishus??
Oops! I did it again!
I crapped on the opinions of greg-a-licious!!
Hey greggie boy??/……
Still bad mouthing our Great President Greg,
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!
AS STATED BEFORE, YOU LOOK AS TOUGH AS RICHARD SIMMONS DRESSED UP AS RAMBO!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Shame, but in all that you do……
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!!!!!!
Shame……
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Gregalicious is STILL an idiot!!!! on April 15, 2011 at 12:56 pm
ooops, I did it again, pushed your dumbass down.
hahahahahahaaha
Did I do that???
hahahahaha!!!!!
Hey Greg, guess what…….
AGAIN!!!
Be that as it may……..
nothing has changed,
YOUR STILL AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!
Hey Paulie4,
Let’s start by talking about you SHUTTING THE FUCK UP!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Get back down where you belong!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Just when you thought it was safe to spread propaganda about our President on this site,
I’M BACK!!!!!!!!
Hey Greg, thanks for the idea. You really have a knack for singing about balls in da mouth.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Gregahomo♠ Ma Ass Burns from all those dicks☻
Beautiful Nutts҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫ by, Greg the nutt sack lovin Cracka
♫♫♫He was a-seaside sittin’
Just a-smokin’ and a-drinkin’ on ringside
On top of the world, oh yeah
He had his dick in his hand
He had his nutts in the sand and whoa! Ha, ha
What a beautiful guy, ah yeah
What a sweet talkin’ homo with a little bit o’ mojo
He turnin’ me on
Creature from the sea with the looks to me
Like he like to fool around
What a snappy little blue eyed mammy gonna keep dis pappy happy
And accompany me, to the ends of the earth, ah yeah
Ahhhhh, that’s why I said
Here I am, ain’t no man of the world, no
All I need is some beautiful nutts
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Woo, cum here, honey. Cum here, cum here, cum here, right on ma narrow lips
Well, I’m a welfare bum in the sun and I’m havin’ fun
And I know you know I got no special plans (Never have)
All the bills are due, don’t give a sheeeeeet I’m ’bout ta get it up my yazoo!
N’ all I nee-nee-need is some nutts, ha-ha-ha (OF THE SAND)
What a sweet talkin’ homo with a little bit o’ mojo
He turnin’ me on
A creature from the sea with the looks to me
Like he like to fool around
Here I am, ain’t no man of the world, no
All I need is some beautiful nutts
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Oh, come this way, cracka
(Guitar Solo)
Sit down right here
Ooh la la!
Think I got hold a dem nutts now
Now I’m a-seaside sittin’
Just a-smokin’ and a-drinkin’, all I know how ta do, I’m ringside
On top of the world (Top of the world)
I got a dick in my hand, I got my nutts in the sand
All I need, is beautiful nutts (Beautiful nutts)
Oh yeah!
Here I am, ain’t no man of the world, no
All I need is beautiful nutts
Ah yeah! Beautiful nutts
Whoa! I ain’t lyin’ to ya
Nothin’ else I need but dem big hairy nutt sacks
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Sit your nutts on down ma troat
Ah yeah, beautiful nuuts
Ow!
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Ow!҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
Shove ‘em Remy, Ize luvs wen it hurts so good!
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Woo! Cum here, baby cheeks. Cum here. Woo!
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
What’s your name, honey, Remy? What’s your–hey! Hey, where ya goin’?
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Hey! Hey, hey! Wait a minute, wait a min… Oh!
Ah yeah, beautiful nuuts
I love ‘em! I need ‘em!
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Can’t do without ‘em, no!
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow! Ma ass burnin!
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
Ah yeah, beautiful nutts
(smooch)҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉ ♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫♫
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
jus cant do witout ma HAIRY NUTT SACKS!!!!!!!!҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
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Hey Greg, guess what…….
YOUR STILL AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!
Hey Paulie4,
Let’s start by talking about you STFU!!!!!
Get back down where you belong!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Just when you thought it was safe to spread propaganda about our President on this site,
I’M BACK!!!!!!!!
I see you and your many personalities have gone wild on this site Gregaloser! Well, allow me to give you and your other many psycho personalities something to rant and rave about………..
Hey Greg, why don’t you and your many personalities sing your song!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Gregalicious theme song!!!!!
♫♫♫I’m a hairy nutts watcher, I’m a hairy nutts watcher…
Watchin’ nutts go by, hey, my my
I’m a hairy nutts watcher, I’m a hairy nutts watcher…
Here comes some now
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
I was just a boy when I threw away my toys
And found a new pastime to dwell on
Whenever I detects them there of the same sex
I play the game I do so well on, hairy nutts
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
Mumble something tell my my, but you do look swell
Could you please walk a little slower
Wonder if you know that you’re putting on a show
Could you please walk a little closer
I’m a hairy nutts watcher, I’m a hairy nutts watcher…
Watchin’ nutts go by, hey, my my♫♫♫
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
҉ω҉ω҉ω҉
tra la la laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I loves ma hairy nutts sacks!
BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SUCKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
a dose hairy nutts!!!
BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
VAT A DUMB CRACKAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BWHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Touching song Greg, you sing it sooooo well!
Just when you thought it was safe to spread propaganda about our President on this site,
I’M BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Greg,
I don’t know about Captain Obvious, but I want your attention. Why don’t you take a hint and……
Shut the fuck up!!!
#########Salute your President Bitchessss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President Big COCK Barack
Ahem…..
My fellow Americans, I have to ask what foolishness have I run into on this site, a site that is supposed to be dedicated to me.
Cross dressing freaks, racist idiots, politically ignorant blowhards….etc, all running free with their little tin foil hats on their head bad mouthing me!!! Well, I’m bringing butt kicking back, and hell is coming with me!!!
First on my list of morons to educate, I go to the state of Texas, and there I land Marine One in the middle of the trailer park that is the home of that cross dressing loser, Gregalicous. I am going to have to give it to him, shall I say, Chicago style. My name isn’t Big COCK Barack for nothing.
I will propably have an easier time educating a brick wall, but an attempt shall be made nontheless!!! But I do believe, together, anything is possible.
Yes my fellow americans, now is the time to come together and unite against the challenges that affect our country.
Since the Republicans have control of the House, and the Democrats have control of the Senate, I propose that both houses of Congress should get together, call gregalicious, paulie 4, and all the other naysayers of my administration to the Senate floor, bend them over the guard rail in front of the Senate speaker—-and run a Senate ‘train’ up their asses. After all of the 100 senators finish with them, these naysayers should be led to the House side of Congress, thrown onto the House floor, and the 435 congressmen and women (with elongated dildos) should proceed to continue ‘running the train’ up those naysayers asses until all of them are satisfied.
Since I am the president, I will endorse any and all legislation which states that no congress person shall be held liable for busting nuts in these naysayers asses.
And I say……
Yes We Can, and Yes I Will………
……shove my Presidential foot up The Stupid Texan Crackers behind til she sees the light!!!
……. teach Paulie4 that nobody cares about his boring mis-adventures, boring and over overrated/opinionated life, and/or what he has to say on the subject of ME!!!
……insure that when they speak my name, they say Mr President!!! If not, me and my secret service will give a not so secret beat down.
As the good book says….. ” And you will no my name as Mr PRESIDENT O’ bam bam Bama, when I lay my fist and vengence upon theee!!!!”
And further more, I have three fundamental points that I want to get across to you, Grega..PUSS,
1. I have lead this great country out of the grip of the worst economic situation since the 1930′s.
2. I have done more to help improve the state of healthcare than any other President in close to 100 years.
3. I will show you just how liberal I really am when I shove my “assumed” liberal foot conservatively up your cracker a$$!!!!
As for you the other hate monger on this site, Paulie4, I will really give you a reason to run around your house holding your little pea shooter gun in your underoos!!
It’s big and black and aimed for your big pretty mouth. I will rain on your parade and storm all over you!!! You think Washingon state is rainy now, wait til I am thru with you son.
I ‘m not your ol man, I will shove your head in the bucket and my foot up your a$$ too!!!
The real soul brotha ONE has spoken!
I fought the power, AND WON!!! I’m President Big Cock Barack, and I endorse this message
I see your dumbass is still here. I thought you had to go to to Afghanistan to fight the war, the war of how many dicks you can shove in your mouth and up your ass!!!!!! XD LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Paulie4, you can shut the fuck up too!!! Both of you butt bandits have no clue what your talking about. Quit posting bullshit you read on a BLOG site and talk about real facts. Til then, suck a real DICK!!!
YA STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKER, and flunky!!!
Don’t worry GreggieBOY, I never had respect for you so you know I am not going to lose any. hahahahahaha.
Oh yeah, I still see you are still here, all day and night, posting garbage. How is it in Iraq???? You have alot of time on your hands, like as if you were still UNEMPLOYED!!!!!
ha ha haaaa!!!!
My name is not Jesus, but I still rise to the top!!!!
TAAA DAAAAA!!!!! I did it again!!!
You want to know a little secret Greg/Coon/ whatever name you use………
You are an IDIOT………. with my nutts still in your mouth, like the fat face gerbil that you are.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
put alil love in your heart
It’s a miracle!
Nothing is more pathetic than a cracker crying about racism!!! Get a life and………
put alil love in your heart
and my sack in your mouth!!!
That’s why you got put in your place on the *Japan* site,
ya STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKER
Oh yeah, see you there soon cupcake!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA
Whers ma man lil Dick Greg???
Ize gettin hornee, an I knows he needin a good black facin’ at da gloreehole.
He likin it wen he thinkin he smart.
a heh a heha heh a heha heh a heha heh a heha heh a heh
a heh a heha heh a heha heh a heh
C’mon maaaaaaaaaaaaan, sheeeeeeet gimme some a dat trailer lovin, sweetie cheeks.
ya dumb cunt ya……
Can you just give me some jiz of it, in ma mout? I don’t have time for all this article reading, I jus wannin da jiz. Actually I’ve been reading a few posts between the jiz juice, and seeing as though you and Paulie are such experts on gloryholes, why don’t you guys run a train for my office? Christ if some of those corrupt Chicago politico jizzy crackas can win anyone can.
Happy 11th Day After Black Man Appreciation Month!!!!!
Hey Greg, I see being unemployed has given you plenty of free time to post nonsense on this site all day. LOL!!!!
Now, if only you would apply yourself to something less trivial and look for a JOB, maybe you would make something of yourself!!!!
*chuckle*
Wow, just when I thought I had seen it all, now I witness ……..UNEMPLOYED DUMBASSES GONE WILD!!!!!!!
Staring Gregaunemployed!!!!!
I just love how you link only BLOGS to back up your bullshit you type as fact. Hahahahahahahaah!!!!!!!
Happy 10th Day After Black Man Appreciation Month!!!!!
HI!!!!!
We are coming up on the biggest contribution the last REPUBLICAN President gave this country, an extended “Day Lights Saving Time”. That is the one thing he did right!!!!
Hey Gregahomo,
What’s the weather like on the unemployment line. You still hate your President??? Do you blame him for you failed marriage??? In your eyes, is his skin still his sin???? You still showing no slack fo da black??????
Well, if so, I have a solution for you to make you see where I am coming from, just ….allow…me…too…(un-zip)…undo my zipper, there it is, the mighty Afro anaconda!!! It’s to big for a glory hole, but it fits perfectly in your big, ignorant mouth.
Open up Santa, I got a big SACK for you.
hahahahahahahahaahhaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.A.L.I.Y.H
Hey Captain Obvious,
You may want to watch your tongue son, I am doing what I do best, getting on Gregahomo’s nerve. We, myself and Greggie Poo, have a history and this does not concern you. Now, if you would like some of the special treatment that I give him, I will gladly do so, if not, F@#K OFF!!!!
PS….
Enigma the Coon IS Greggamoron!!! Just incase you haven’t figured it out yet!!!
You’re slipping Captain.
“Captain Obvious on March 8, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Can you idiots stop cutting and pasting your stupid long winded posts. They’re the cyber equivalent to writing on the wall with your own feces.
Captain Oblivious on March 8, 2011 at 6:50 pm
@Greg: But that’s exactly what I do. Make some claim about how stupid the conservatives are and then post a link. His insult absolutely applies to me.
“Your petty, and juvenile liberal tripe has shown you have zero intellectual capacity for adult conversation or debate”
I’ve got a nerve saying that given the childish exchanges that have gone on between me, Enigma.”
Hey Gregsafaggot,
Awwww, did I hit a whittle nerve Greggie???
Is that a tear in your unemployed eye???
Is daddies whittle girl about to cry????
[SLAP]!!!!!!!!
grow some balls and……
SHADDAP!!!!!
LOL!~!!!!!!
Look dumbass, I don’t need to attempt to get attention on this site, as long as I am getting YOURS!!! You unemployed, dumbass racist!!!
You have the nerve to talk about the art of conversation, Mrs Queen of the one side. The only thing that is getting pushed around here is my big hairy nutts down your throat!!!
You don’t suffer the fools eh, Gregsafool??? I bet you wouldn’t, you have to have some form of intelligence to do so. You couldn’t suffer a five year old with your infinite stupidity!!!! One can have a more intellectually satisfying conversation with a garden gnom they would ever get with you!!! hahahahahahahaha
The only fool suffering is YOU!!! Oh yeah, how is the job hunt going “little buddy”??? No worries, when Obama gets re-elected again next year, he will hook you up a job. There is always a toilet that needs scrubing.
good luck with that!!!!! XD DDDDDDDD
LOL!!!!!!!!
SHADDAP!!!!!
Wrong again dumbass, I did get the last word on you unemployed dumbass wannabe conservatives. LOL!!!
Greg is jobless.
Paulie is full of shit.
And the Coon is still struggling to gain an identity on this site hidding behind my name. He proves time and time again that I OWN him. LOL!!!!!!!!!
Deep down, he wish he had the balls to use his old name again. *chuckle*, he knows better, I would make his nasty fat homo ass pay if he did. hahaha
Today, March 6th, shall be remembered as the day you thought you ALMOST got the last word on me, Mr Enigma!!!!! Like that would ever happen, as long as their is a racist word in your mouth, their will be my big black nutts in your mouth. LOL!!!
That goes for you and your fellow trailer park friends Paulie4 and the no-name former cracker named WHITEY, hahaha. I thought I would never see the day when a white man has to use the name of a black man to make a point. LOL!!!!!!!!! Oh well, immatation is the best form of flattery, ya know.
anyways…………..
Hey Chris,
You would have an easier time breathing up a dead dogs ass for the ultimate high than you ever would by trying to get Paulie4 to say something smart. It is not in his D.N.A.
Case in point,
““The much publicized GM Volt sold 281 cars in Feb! 281 cars! For context: Honda Accord 43,215, Nissan Altima 34,834.”
Did he mention that unlike the two imports, that’s been around since the beginning of time, (sorta speak,hehe), the volt is NEW!!! New in the since that yes there are alot of them already made, they are not in the 35 to 40 thousand units range yet. His dumbass gives slanted OPINIONS while expecting people to ignore their god’s given COMMON SENSE!!!!!
His dumbass also fails to mention that, equipt with the gas engine recharging unit and a fully charged battery, you can go for MONTHS without going to the gas station. This technology is in it’s infancy, so yes, it will be at a premium, BUT, as with all other technologies, the price will come down. Mr Dumbass failed to mention that!!!
He, and his jobless butt buddy Gregafaggot, seems to hate America, PERIOD!!!! They walk with their aluminum foil hats on ignoring all the progress that is being made.
That is why I call both of them dumbasses, and I will continue too, until they prove to me other wise.
put alil love in your heart
Hey Greg, get a job!!!!!
Hey , when will I get a job???? Never, working is only for fools, not for us crackaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder I’m so bitter , I NEED TO GET A FUCKING JOB, LIKE THE LOSER I AM!!!!!!! That’s why I’m so angry against the my President and the government. Yes, I’m a fucking LOSER, I can’t even afford a shack in the trailer park.
OH MY GAWD!!!!!! XD
I’m a bitter STUPID TEXAN CRACKER!!!!! That explains why I’m crying about food being taken off my kids plate!!! They don’t even live with my broke ass. I have to leave the library computer now, try to get a fucking job already and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I guess jihad got me stressed out?? daily fatwa’s wearin’ me down??
Ize gettin’ away to club gitmo!!
Ize packin’ my bags son, I will never learn something about running a business. Welfares ma thing, Ize needin da bling.
good luck with that! XD DDDDD
Happy 3rd Day After Black Man Appreciation Month!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder you’re so bitter Greg, GET A FUCKING JOB, LOSER!!!!!!! That’s why you’re so angry against the President and the government. You fucking LOSER, you can’t even afford a trailer in the trailer park.
OH MY GAWD!!!!!! XD
You bitter white STUPID FUCKING TEXAN CRACKER!!!!! That explains why you are crying about food being taken off your kids plate!!! They probably don’t even live with your broke ass. Greg, leave the library computer, get a fucking job already and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!
Paulie4, you can shut the fuck up too!!!
anyways…….
I see the baffoon, who use to be known as “Whitey”, is up to his old tricks, trying to become relevent on this site. Not in this lifetime. hahahaha. Funny, I can use my name anytime I want because I can. He, on the other hand, can’t. LOL!!!! Regardless of what he types, I get credit for it, good or bad. It’s nice to have total control of someones thoughts and mind. Every night when he goes to sleep, visions of me sticking foot up his cracker white behind haunt his thoughts, while my big hairy nutts consume his dreams. hahahahahaha!!!!!
Hey, ya start any new businesses lately, Greg????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I guess jihad got you stressed out?? daily fatwa’s wearin’ you down??
get away to club gitmo!!
Pack your bags son, you may learn something about running a business.
XD LOL!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Now I have seen it all, Paulie4 is now an expert on the black community. LOL!!!!!!!
Stupidity has now come full circle. hahaha. One of the biggest racist on this site is now using specific words of an old comedian to explain the problems of the black community. How cute!!! Paulie, what you fail to realize is that where he was speaking was at a specific group. Not all black households are portrade on “Boys in da Hood”. He was condemming ignorance, had you continue to read the whole speech, oppose to two or three paragraphs, you would have known that. DUH!!!
There is no more trouble in the “black” community as there is in the “white” community. There are good homes as well as bad.
I have better things to do with my time than you teach knowledge to you and your ignorant ilk, I will just tell you to suck my balls and
put alil lovein your heart
By the way……..
Hey Greg, STFU and get a life, you LOSER!!!! You still bitter that you’re a big time failure??? You tried to life the american dream and blew it, now you have to “BLOW it” on the receiving end of the glory hole!!! LOL!!!! Don’t blame your President for that.
Hey Paulie4, STFU!!!!!!!
Oh yeah, I see you don’t state when those jokes were made Paulie, he was big during the Bush days, maybe he is talking about a REPUBLICANT government.
hahahahahahahahaaha
Hi everybody,
HAPPY 2ND DAY AFTER BLACK MAN APPRECIATION DAY!!!!!!
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Here is a quote for you to ponder on Paulie4 & Gregafaggot……….
” You can’t have a big dick down your throat without, first, opening your bigg ass mouth.”
Bet you clowns knew that already, from experience. hahahaha!!!!!!!
Hey GreggaLOSER!!!!!
Suck a dick too, CRACKA!!!!!
That’s not what your mom was calling me last night, Coon the BAFFOON!!!! She was calling me DADDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY BIGDADDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY at that. LOL!!! Even your Asian wife got in the act. Oh Papa-Sannnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!
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Put alil love in your heart
oh yeah, here you go LOSER……….
:p
Happy 28th Day Of Black Man Appreciation Month. Sadly, this is the last day of such a wonderful month. But thanks to Gregahomo, it is going out with a blast!!!! The insult gods have once again blessed me with a jewel!!!
“Gregalicious on February 27, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Having been run out of my own business, and forced by the state to work in a private sector union through over regulation, too damn high taxes, and exasperating an illegal immigration problem by making this a sanctuary state…. I have first hand knowledge of what the union label really stands for….”
Hey Greg,
Shut the fuck up!!!!
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Once again, you prove to all on this site how big a LOSER you are!!! You can’t satisfy your wife, you can’t run your own company and you are just an all round LOSER!!!
What happened with the business, you learned the hard lesson that you have to make a PROFIT???? Did the concept of doing a good job mean anything to you. They say that the cream floats to the top, no, not that cream homo, meaning the best of the best rises to the top. If you did your job good, you would still have your business today. No wonder you are always crying about not being able to put food on your table for your kids.
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You racist loser!!!! You have once again made me laugh. ha ha hahaha!!! Maybe you should write a letter to Obama for a bail out too!! Oh yeah, you probably did, and he told you “hell no, find another job, BOY!!”.
All is now understood about you son.
Now go back to your favorite pasttime, the receiving end of the gloryhole, and be all that you can be.
put alil love in your heart
You’re getting a stiffy????? What, you on another GAY PORN website??? Must be, ya lil faggot!!! Hahahaha!!!
Here is something for you to get a mighty one incher……, my nutts in your mouth!!!
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Hey Coon,
suck a dick. hahahahaha
Happy Black Man Appreciation Month!!! Day 27!!!
@Greg, chuckle you wanna be conservatives are amusing.. you point me to a trailer park refugee Ann Coulter and pretend she knows anything about the truth… claim to be a conservative, and offer up your idiotic claims of what President Obama has done… as if the reality of what he has done, is evidident everywhere.. the evidence is all around you, yet you refuse to open your big eyes and look at it.. let alone acknowledge the complete success of our beloved President.
Greg, you were a dumbass, you are a dumbass, and you will continue to be a dumbass!!! You spend what little free time you get in prison, coming on this site to spread stupidity. You are not a true conservative, you are just an idiot!!!
We feign GWB cause ……. HE DESERVED IT!!!! Two wars, a great recession, housing problems…etc just to name a few.
Please don’t take this out of context, and recieve it with the way it was intended because I mean it sincerely, go fuck yourself!!!!!!
You fruitcakes, live in a fantasy world of your own making, your complete disregard isn’t conatgious, believable, or even comprehensible in light of the facts that your ilk ignore… until you come to terms with the reality, that you fruitcakes are wrong about everything, we have nothing in common.. a self described “conservative” is just some dumbass fruitcake afraid to call themselves a racist anymore..
Put alil love in your heart
And Take my dick out your mouth, ya stupid fucking Texan Cracker!!!!
Rather than share the link, I think its better if you obozo fluffing douchebags read this for yourself….
August 18, 2011 Obama: The Affirmative Action President by Matt Patterson (columnist – Washington Post, New York Post, San Francisco Examiner)
Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful military, execute the world’s most consequential job?
Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life: usheredinto and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scoresalong the way; a cushy non-job as a “community organizer”; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in factnearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote “present”) ; and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator.
And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor”; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?
Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal:
To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspokenhater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, andtherefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.
Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass — held to a lower standard — because of the color of his skin. Podhoretz continues:
And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) “non-threatening,” all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest?
Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon — affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.
Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are notqualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don’t care if these minority students fail; liberals aren’t around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist.
Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin — that’s affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn’t racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama.
True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but whywould he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told he wasgood enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All hislife, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the nextstep, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary. What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks?
In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama’s oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people — conservatives included — ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that’s when he has his teleprompter in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth — it’s all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years.
And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inheritedthis mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?
In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.
Thanks for this brilliant and astute commentary, rare to find on the internet these days.
What are you pickle smooching, nutt hugging butt gobblin repubic-CANT’S going to do now!!! Obama is getting stronger in the polls and these republican ass clowns are proving Enigma right, they are full of more shit than a telepotty at a White Snake concert on a friday night.
I always have and always will believe in Obama and the change he offers this country. God bless the man!!!
Speaking of great black men, it is now the first day of “Black Man Appreciation Day” and all we white folks need to pay our respect . I wish I was born black, I would have a big dick, have better luck with the ladies, even have a JOB! Most of all, I would love to be able to sing this song…………
I guess I have to make due with my little white shriviled up dick, asian boyfriend and the fact that I can’t find a job! Atleast I can still dream!!!!!!
I see that I still weigh heavily on enigra’s black ass.
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Rather than share the link, I think its better if you obozo fluffing douchebags read this for yourself…. In view of what a dismal failure obozo has been on every issue, some of you fruitcakes gotta wonder how he got there in the first place…
August 18, 2011 Obama: The Affirmative Action President by Matt Patterson (columnist – Washington Post, New York Post, San Francisco Examiner)
Years from now, historians may regard the 2008 election of Barack Obama as an inscrutable and disturbing phenomenon, a baffling breed of mass hysteria akin perhaps to the witch craze of the Middle Ages. How, they will wonder, did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world’s largest economy, direct the world’s most powerful military, execute the world’s most consequential job?
Imagine a future historian examining Obama’s pre-presidential life: usheredinto and through the Ivy League despite unremarkable grades and test scoresalong the way; a cushy non-job as a “community organizer”; a brief career as a state legislator devoid of legislative achievement (and in factnearly devoid of his attention, so often did he vote “present”) ; and finally an unaccomplished single term in the United States Senate, the entirety of which was devoted to his presidential ambitions. He left no academic legacy in academia, authored no signature legislation as a legislator.
And then there is the matter of his troubling associations: the white-hating, America-loathing preacher who for decades served as Obama’s “spiritual mentor”; a real-life, actual terrorist who served as Obama’s colleague and political sponsor. It is easy to imagine a future historian looking at it all and asking: how on Earth was such a man elected president?
Not content to wait for history, the incomparable Norman Podhoretz addressed the question recently in the Wall Street Journal:
To be sure, no white candidate who had close associations with an outspokenhater of America like Jeremiah Wright and an unrepentant terrorist like Bill Ayers, would have lasted a single day. But because Mr. Obama was black, andtherefore entitled in the eyes of liberaldom to have hung out with protesters against various American injustices, even if they were a bit extreme, he was given a pass.
Let that sink in: Obama was given a pass — held to a lower standard — because of the color of his skin. Podhoretz continues:
And in any case, what did such ancient history matter when he was also so articulate and elegant and (as he himself had said) “non-threatening,” all of which gave him a fighting chance to become the first black president and thereby to lay the curse of racism to rest?
Podhoretz puts his finger, I think, on the animating pulse of the Obama phenomenon — affirmative action. Not in the legal sense, of course. But certainly in the motivating sentiment behind all affirmative action laws and regulations, which are designed primarily to make white people, and especially white liberals, feel good about themselves.
Unfortunately, minorities often suffer so that whites can pat themselves on the back. Liberals routinely admit minorities to schools for which they are notqualified, yet take no responsibility for the inevitable poor performance and high drop-out rates which follow. Liberals don’t care if these minority students fail; liberals aren’t around to witness the emotional devastation and deflated self esteem resulting from the racist policy that is affirmative action. Yes, racist.
Holding someone to a separate standard merely because of the color of his skin — that’s affirmative action in a nutshell, and if that isn’t racism, then nothing is. And that is what America did to Obama.
True, Obama himself was never troubled by his lack of achievements, but whywould he be? As many have noted, Obama was told he was good enough for Columbia despite undistinguished grades at Occidental; he was told he was good enough for the US Senate despite a mediocre record in Illinois ; he was told he wasgood enough to be president despite no record at all in the Senate. All hislife, every step of the way, Obama was told he was good enough for the nextstep, in spite of ample evidence to the contrary. What could this breed if not the sort of empty narcissism on display every time Obama speaks?
In 2008, many who agreed that he lacked executive qualifications nonetheless raved about Obama’s oratory skills, intellect, and cool character. Those people — conservatives included — ought now to be deeply embarrassed. The man thinks and speaks in the hoariest of clichés, and that’s when he has his teleprompter in front of him; when the prompter is absent he can barely think or speak at all. Not one original idea has ever issued from his mouth — it’s all warmed-over Marxism of the kind that has failed over and over again for 100 years.
And what about his character? Obama is constantly blaming anything and everything else for his troubles. Bush did it; it was bad luck; I inheritedthis mess. It is embarrassing to see a president so willing to advertise his own powerlessness, so comfortable with his own incompetence. But really, what were we to expect? The man has never been responsible for anything, so how do we expect him to act responsibly?
In short: our president is a small and small-minded man, with neither the temperament nor the intellect to handle his job. When you understand that, and only when you understand that, will the current erosion of liberty and prosperity make sense. It could not have gone otherwise with such a man in the Oval Office.
Things are looking pretty good so far.. but June is still a ways away…
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-justices-poised-to-strike-down-entire-healthcare-law-20120328,0,2058481.story
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i decided to upload some of my home videos to youtube. I love the public library computers….., i was able to convert my home videos to cartoon characters…..
im proud of myself……
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here is another real dissappointment… I used to like tom hanks and thought he was a fine actor..
marrying himself to obozo, by putting on this piece of propoganda to inform the public, his fans and the reason for his exorbant wealth… I can stomach it.
fortunately he has the money to retire from the public eye. because regardless the role he play anywhere else at this point. once you’ve seen someone on thier knees puffing up obozo… whatever else they are pretending to do or be just doesn’t fly…
but how dare he not play another gay man in a movie??? i felt he understood me, he was great in Philadephia!!! he inspired me to embrace my …..errrr, status
buh bye tom hanks… you were good once…
now let’s sing along…………………
The lesson learned last night is a bitter one……just like the taste of semen from my asian boyfriend after he ate a bad batch of overly seasoned alley cat on a hot summer day. Trust me, it was not pretty! XDDDD
sing along, i even attached the music to my new favorite song……
G..g..g.. gently grip Obama’s dick
and softly place it tween my lips
while lessons and semen goes down my throat
believe i swallow everything
til the bad taste is gone
and he thrust in my mouth hard
and so I stayed up all night
slept in all day, this is my sound
think of the dicks I sucked
preparing to get fucked
never let his dick go limp
while it’s in your fruity grip
two slurps from the finish line
after his nutt, he will be mine
my lips will always suck it out
as i close my eyes and use my mouth
and tell me that i’m his man
and so i stay up all night
sleep in all day, this is my sound
think of the dicks I sucked
preparing to get my ass fucked
get out your negro dialect translators again fruitcakes, you’re gonna need ‘em. xDDD
thanks to obozo’s feckless incompetence by manipulating gas prices to their highest ever at this time of year in an effort to force you to buy a gov’t motors volt, one of the consequences of that stupidity is… higher inflation…
that means the cost of everything has gone up, food prices are skyrocketing, peanut butter alone is up 36.6% over a year ago.. 36.6%!! in just one fucking year!! how is that helping out poor people? I suppose liberal politicians think its a 2fer because they are handling obozo’s wifes dillema on obesity at the same time… by making gas too expensive to buy, they make food to expensive to purchase healing the planet and conquering obesity at the same time???
some dumbasses think that a minimum wage should be a living wage? thats an oxymoron… everytime the minimum wage goes up the cost of everything goes up that much plus a bit more to implement it, making the need for another raise in the minimum wage to make up the difference causing the prices to go up again outpacing whatever they raise the minimum wage too.
ppl too stupid to see the cycle and how it can’t possibly work in reality, keep voting for the next guy that promises something they don’t have only to find out it isn’t enough and can never be enough. The only answer is to enhance your own skill set and earn more than the minimum wage that will out pace the next fruitcakes push to raise it.
In plain English this is called, chasing your tail. You keep running in circles doing the minimum expecting the maximum and never breaking even let alone getting ahead.
Enter one feckless, incompetent, in over his head, queer hugging negro, ass clown deluded by illusions of granduer and you have a recipe for disaster.
Spending more money than our GDP, while simultaneousely doing everything he can to lower our GDP puts in a position of fiscal collapse like Greece…
No amount of liberal wishful thinking, and/or drug induced daydreaming can change reality one bit. liberal tax and spend policies don’t work, have never worked anywhere they’ve ever been tried and simply can’t…
The sooner you dumbfucks stop sticking your hands out to gov’t to feed your dumbasses, and either put them to work or starve to death the better off all of us will be.
copied from my buddy Ed>>
AMERICAN “SHEEPLE” = A “CONFEDERACY/MULTITUDE OF FOOLS” – SO TRUE FOR HAVING ELECTED SUCH AN INCOMPETENT, UNQUALIFIED PERSON AS OBAMA, along with his radical-left, secular, socialist, America-hating regime! ****Some people have the vocabulary to sum up things in a way you can understand them. This quote came from the Czech Republic. Someone over there has it figured out. We have a lot of work to do.
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their President. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President.”
just who is obozo talking to with his class warfare horseshit???
Obama Fails to Stem Middle-Class Slide He Blamed on Bush
By Mike Dorning – Apr 30, 2012 5:30 PM PT .Facebook Share LinkedIn Google +1 127 Comments
Print QUEUEQ..Barack Obama campaigned four years ago assailing President George W. Bush for wage losses suffered by the middle class. More than three years into Obama’s own presidency, those declines have only deepened.
The rebound from the worst recession since the 1930s has generated relatively few of the moderately skilled jobs that once supported the middle class, tightening the financial squeeze on many Americans, even those who are employed.
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A job seeker during a job fair hosted by the State of New York on April 12, 2012 in Brooklyn, New York.
A job seeker during a job fair hosted by the State of New York on April 12, 2012 in Brooklyn, New York. Photographer: Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
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Obama Fails to Stem Middle Class Hollowing Out Mark Duncan/AP
Surviving members of the Doolittle Raiders and other attendees watch a flyover of B-25 bombers at the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, the birthplace of aviation.
Surviving members of the Doolittle Raiders and other attendees watch a flyover of B-25 bombers at the National Museum of the U.S. Air Force in Dayton, Ohio, the birthplace of aviation. Photographer: Mark Duncan/AP
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Obama Fails to Stem Middle-Class Hollowing Out Google Inc. via Bloomberg
A Google Inc. experimental self-driving car, seen here in this handout photo, is one of several developments in artificial intellingence technologies cited by Erik Brynjolfsson, director of the MIT Center for Digital Business and co-author of the book “Race Against the Machine”.
A Google Inc. experimental self-driving car, seen here in this handout photo, is one of several developments in artificial intellingence technologies cited by Erik Brynjolfsson, director of the MIT Center for Digital Business and co-author of the book “Race Against the Machine”. Source: Google Inc. via Bloomberg
.“It started long before Obama, but he hasn’t done anything,” said John Forsyth, 58, a railroad-car inspector and political independent from Lebanon, Ohio. “He kept pushing this change, change, change, and he hasn’t done anything.”
Underlying the erosion of the middle class, defined by some economists as the middle 60 percent of income earners, are trends that stretch back decades, including competition from lower-wage workers overseas and technological advances that allow factories and offices to produce more with less labor.
As a candidate in 2008, Obama blamed the reversals largely on the policies of Bush and other Republicans. He cited census figures showing that median income for working-age households — those headed by someone younger than 65 — had dropped more than $2,000 after inflation during the first seven years of Bush’s time in office.
Yet real median household income in March was down $4,300 since Obama took office in January 2009 and down $2,900 since the June 2009 start of the economic recovery, according to an analysis of census data by Sentier Research, an economic- consulting firm in Annapolis, Maryland.
1% Get 93%
A president who attacked Bush’s policies for favoring the rich has overseen a recovery in which the wealthiest 1 percent captured 93 percent of per-capita real income gains in 2010, according to an analysis of tax data by Emmanuel Saez, an economics professor at the University of California at Berkeley.
On average, families in the top 1 percent saw their inflation-adjusted incomes rise by $105,637 that year from 2009, according to Saez.
While there is no settled definition of middle class, the middle 60 percent of households nationwide in 2010 earned between $20,000 and $100,000, according to the U.S. Census.
In and around Dayton, Ohio, a region that has endured a wrenching shift from dependence on the auto industry to new sources of growth such as distribution warehouses and information technology, disappointment with Obama is often balanced by wariness of his Republican challenger, Mitt Romney.
“I don’t know if there’s anybody I’m going to vote for,” Forsyth said of the candidates.
Limited Opportunity
While the U.S. unemployment rate fell from a peak of 10 percent in October 2009 to 8.2 percent in March, the jobs data that dominate public discussion obscure a shift that has limited opportunity for workers such as Forsyth.
Ninety-five percent of the net job losses during the recession were in middle-skill occupations, such as office workers, bank tellers and machine operators, according to research by economists Nir Jaimovich of Duke University in Durham, North Carolina, and Henry Siu of the University of British Columbia in Vancouver.
The job growth since has been clustered in either high- skill fields inaccessible to workers without advanced education or low-paying industries, they found.
In March, 3.2 million fewer Americans held sales and office jobs than five years earlier, and 1.2 million fewer were employed in transportation and production fields, all areas that typically pay middle-income wages, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Dayton’s Dreams
By contrast, the number of better-paid managerial and professional employees grew by almost 2 million over that period and employment in lower-paying service jobs expanded by 1.5 million.
In Dayton — the birthplace of aviation and such inventions as the mechanical cash register, the self-starting car engine, the stepladder and cellophane tape — these trends have diminished incomes and curtailed dreams.
Mandy Copeland, a 34-year-old occupational therapy assistant, and her husband, a heating and ventilation technician, have given up hope of trading their three-bedroom ranch house for a home with a basement that they could turn into a recreation room for their three children.
Eighteen-year-old Alex Ray recently decided he would wait on attending a four-year college and instead spend his first year at a local community college. His father, Tom Ray, a 47- year-old information-technology project manager who only recently regained a wage cut his employer imposed during the recession, praised his son for a “very mature” choice that he estimated would save $20,000.
Falling Birthrate
Fewer children are being brought into the world; the birthrate in Montgomery County, where Dayton is located, has fallen every year since 2007, in keeping with a national trend. Even the rituals of death have changed.
To save money, families are increasingly choosing cremation over burial, said Anne Dunbar, co-owner of a funeral home in the Dayton suburb of Springfield. Others are forgoing memorial services for simple graveside ceremonies. Rather than flowers or donations to a charity, 15 to 20 families a year now ask that newspaper obituaries include a plea for contributions toward funeral expenses, she said.
‘The Real Majority’
The challenges facing residents in this Ohio city about 60 miles north of Cincinnati have been emblematic of the issues that have moved centrist swing voters ever since the 1970 publication of “The Real Majority,” a top-selling political analysis. Authors Richard Scammon and Ben Wattenberg created a mythical 47-year-old Dayton housewife to argue that her most pressing concerns had the potential to turn presidential elections.
Today, the most pressing concern for Lisa Meeks, 47, is making herself “more marketable” to potential employers. Meeks, who left her pre-school teaching position because her hours were reduced, now rides the bus to Sinclair Community College in the morning and then boards another bus to get to her new job, working the evening shift as a call-center manager.
“I’m still seeing people struggling,” said Meeks. “You hear people saying, ‘I’ve put in four job applications and I haven’t heard anything back. What am I doing wrong?’”
Though the scale is greater, the workplace shifts that Dayton and the rest of the country are seeing parallel the Bush- era job trends that Obama criticized four years ago, when he said that during President Bill Clinton’s administration “the average American family saw its income go up $7,500 instead of go down $2,000, like it has under George Bush.”
Stopping Downturn
Arriving in the White House during a financial crisis, Obama concentrated on stopping a downturn that many economists feared could turn into a depression. He pressed for an $831 billion stimulus package and an auto-industry bailout. He cut taxes for middle-class workers and backed a health-care overhaul that he said would help middle-income families by keeping medical costs down and easing access to insurance coverage.
To promote a skilled workforce, the Obama administration has stressed support for education, including aid to local schools to reduce teacher layoffs. It has emphasized infrastructure improvements to promote competitiveness and backed clean-energy technologies that could provide future jobs.
Romney says deficit spending to finance the stimulus, uncertainty generated by the health law, and tighter regulation of the financial industry have deterred businesses from hiring. He backs reductions in government spending and tax cuts, including for wealthy “job creators” to spur investment.
Nothing Obama has accomplished in office so far has stopped what Siu calls “the hollowing out of the middle.”
No Overnight Fix
Just 19 percent of registered voters believe the president’s policies favor the middle class, compared with 25 percent who say they benefit the rich, according to a CBS-New York Times poll conducted Feb. 8-13. Still, asked to choose which candidate would do a better job protecting the middle class, 49 percent say Obama and 39 percent Romney, according to an April 5-8 ABC News-Washington Post poll.
“The economic crisis, deep recession and wage stagnation weren’t created overnight and they won’t be solved overnight,” Amy Brundage, a White House spokeswoman, said in an e-mail. “While we are making progress and the economy is growing and creating jobs, too many middle class families are still struggling to recover from the worst financial crisis of our lifetimes caused by the reckless economic policies of the past.”
Fundamental Forces
Siu and other economists attribute the phenomenon to such fundamental forces as the movement of production offshore to lower-cost countries and technological gains that have made U.S. companies more efficient. Even with 5.2 million fewer Americans employed since January 2008, the U.S. is turning out more goods and services than before the recession, one reason corporate profits hit record levels and wealthy investors prospered.
Robots are replacing factory workers. Airport kiosks are taking the place of ticket agents. Intuit Inc. (INTU)’s TurboTax software performs the work of accountants.
“This is early days. We see the next 10 years as being more disruptive than the last 10,” said Erik Brynjolfsson, director of the MIT Center for Digital Business and co-author of the book “Race Against the Machine.” He cites developments in artificial-intelligence technologies such as those in Google Inc. (GOOG)’s experimental self-driving car, International Business Machine Corp. (IBM)’s Jeopardy-playing Watson computer, and Apple Inc. (AAPL)’s Siri voice-recognition software.
Plant Closing
That disruption is being felt in the Dayton area. Thousands of auto workers and employees at related parts manufacturers and machine-tool makers lost their jobs after General Motors Co. (GM) closed its plant in nearby Moraine two days before Christmas in 2008. Less than six months later, NCR Corp. (NCR), once called National Cash Register Co. and founded in Dayton in 1884, said it would move its headquarters to Duluth, Georgia, taking more than a thousand jobs with it.
Unemployment in the Dayton metropolitan region reached 12.4 percent in January 2010, though the jobless rate had come down to 8.7 percent in February.
Some of the lost manufacturing and office jobs have been replaced by growth in warehouse centers that take advantage of the area’s location near the intersection of two interstate highways, said Richard Stock, director of the Business Research Group at the University of Dayton.
Caterpillar Logistics, a unit of Peoria, Illinois-based Caterpillar Inc. (CAT), and Carter Logistics LLC opened distribution centers in the area. Employees at those and other warehouses are paid “above a living wage, but they’re definitely for the most part lower-middle-income jobs,” Stock said.
High Skills Needed
The other major sources of growth have been in information technology, exemplified by Teradata Corp. (TDC), headquartered in Dayton, and Reed Elsevier Plc (REL)’s Lexis Nexis unit, which has a facility in the area, Stock said
Aeronautics and advanced materials manufacturing have also expanded around Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, home of the Air Force Materiel Command and Air Force Research Laboratory, Stock said. GE Aviation, a unit of Fairfield, Connecticut-based General Electric Co. (GE), broke ground last year on a $51 million research center in Dayton.
“Those jobs are at the very high-skilled end, jobs that require quite a bit of education,” Stock said. “There are not too many jobs in the middle.”
As a result, pay has declined. Real average weekly earnings in the metropolitan area dropped to $800 last year from $817 in 2007, according to U.S. Labor Department data analyzed by Stock.
Sitting on a metal bleacher watching her 7-year-old son at an early evening baseball practice, Mandy Copeland reflected on the expectations she and her husband had six years ago when she finished the coursework that qualified her for her occupational therapy job.
“We had pretty high hopes,” she said. “Now we’re just happy we have jobs.”
To contact the reporter on this story: Mike Dorning in Washington at mdorning@bloomberg.net
I think this is horrible for someone with this much anger to be speaking on the PRESIDENT. Frankly this individual has a problem with living. He is the only oxymoron that takes up this much time on down grading people. It is people like him that carries out such acts as those of terrorists. I feel sorry for you man, woman or should I say coward, whatever you are.
obozocare set to be thrown out on Monday! Everybody ready to the Happy Dance??? xDDDD
how do you fruitcakes like obozocare now that you know it isn’t free??
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/304388/hollow-victory-obamacare-sen-mike-lee
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this is for you fruitcakes that like obozocare or want a single payer system…
The latest from our future healthcare system, which is currently residing in Canada. –
My dad traveled from Toronto to Buffalo today to get an MRI on his back and legs. He’s in severe pain and can’t wait the 3 months it would take to get one north of the border. The reason he’s in pain is because his surgeon, who was too busy, had another less-qualified doctor operate on him 7 years ago and that surgery rendered him unable to walk without a cane. Last week his own GP gave him percoset and valium, much to the horror of the doctor he saw in the emergency room. Apparently these are not drugs you give to an 81 year old.
My mother is almost blind this week because she had eye surgery 2 weeks ago and the doctor – who is incredibly busy – left a stitch in the eyeball, which essentially healed over and had to be scraped out. The other eye is still recovering from surgery last month, but now she’s seeing black in her periphery and none of the doctors know why. At first they thought it was a stroke, but they ruled that out after scaring the s**t out of her.
Just another day in the ongoing soap opera, “Canadian Medical Center” or, excuse me, Centre.
Canada isn’t exactly a standard for healthcare. I’ve never needed medical care there personally, but still.
Germany has a decent system that isn’t exactly “free” (and I am pretty sure is much more expensive than in the UK) but at least the rate is dependent on income and chronic illness actually lowers the amount you pay. The main downsides are that they’ve stopped paying for some procedures and that others require a ridiculous amount of paperwork.
The UK has a decent system. It’s okay for most things in England and very close to stellar in Scotland. The main problem there is that if you need to see a specialist, you’re way too likely to have to go to London, but that’d be the case at least sometimes even if doctors were paid more by the government.
Then… Pakistan, yeah. For some reason, as far as I’ve seen so far, the health care system here is the most affordable I’ve come across with decent service and even high-end clinics charge less than I’d pay with socialised healthcare elsewhere. For people who earn very little, there are still decent options, at least around here…
Where did you get your information from, clander? Why would ‘white’ people want free healthcare when they don’t need it because they are healthy? This is bogus.
What? I’d rather not pay ridiculous amounts for vaccines, dental care and new glasses. The first two do apply to everyone.
I REALLY REALLY LOVE OBAMACARE!!!!
see enigra is still up to his tricks again. i am pissed and highly disappointed that this feckless, incompetent, in over his head, queer hugging negro, ass clown failure is smarter than myself and my conservative ilk! How the hell did he pull this out of his ass….. if this tree hugging john roberts betrayed me, who can i trust now…………..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/28/john-roberts-conservatives-health-care-ruling_n_1634512.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D174223
now everybody has the opportunity to healthcare like me…. so now when i have my conservative hamster stuck up my ass i have to now wait in line before the doctor can remove it. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!
XDDDDDDD
this is for you fruitcakes that like obozocare or would like a single payer system…..my theme song!!!!!
now what are you pickle smooching, nutt hugging butt munchers going to do about it???
XDDD
RE-MIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now what are you pickle smooching, nutt hugging butt munchers going to do about it???
XDDD
I will be back later on tonight using another name to attempt to bury my theme song!!! But until then…….
read it!!
learn it!!!
feel it!!!!!
now picture me in my stained underoo’s with my homer simpson figure dancing with a budwieser in one hand and a donut in the other…..
SWEET DREAMS BITCHESS!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
I live in Toronto, and hope no one actually buys the comment above. My dad also needed an MRI and got one within a week or two. I’ve lived here for more than 15 years, and I have absolutely no complaints with regards to healthcare.
Canada has an amazing healthcare system, and it’s sad to see comments like those above.
I didn’t write this, but I wish I had.
I have never heard this said as simply or as well. Class warfare at its best.
The folks who are getting the free stuff don’t like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff.
…
And, the folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop.
And the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!
Now… the people who are forcing the people who pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.
So… the people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff and giving them the free stuff in the first place.
We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.
Now understand this. All Great Democracies have Committed Financial Suicide somewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The Reason?
The Voters figured out they could vote themselves Money from the Treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.
The United States officially became a Republic in 1776, 236 years ago.
The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff.
We have one chance to change that in 2012.
FAILURE TO CHANGE THAT SPELLS THE END OF THE UNITED STATES AS WE KNOW IT.
ELECTION 2012 IS COMING
A NATION OF SHEEP BREEDS A GOVERNMENT OF WOLVES!
For all our sake and the sake of our children and grandchildren PLEASE Take a Stand!!!
Obama: GONE!
Borders: CLOSED!
Language: ENGLISH Only
Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!
Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!
NO freebies to: Non-Citizens, Cut the Freebies to the Baby Making Machines and NO MORE ANCHOR LEECHES.
only medicare not enoff please help us to get more free no medicine
The reason we love the idea of ‘free’ healthcare is that no one should lose their house and go bankrupt for having cancer.
Your blog got way more right-wing towards the end. Did you start feeling rich or something?
Since obozo hasn’t laid out what his next 4 years would look like, here is a snapshot of a small part of his last 4 years….
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/
I’m just wondering what you obozo fluffing fruitcakes see in this douche??? Just what has he done that still make you wanna throw your vote and the country further into the toilet???
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-10-2012/122508-obama_supporters-0/
Hey Gregadumbass, Shut The Fuck Up!!!!!
I’m still here CRACKAS!!!!!!
4 mo muthafucking years!!!!!!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHA
If you thought I was a nigga before, just wait til I start my second term. Fried chicken and bbq in the front lawn every fucking weekend, that and I am going to put 36″ rims on the beast and the rest of my motorcade.
Call the next for years….. “Barack Gone Wild”!!!!
I’m Big Cock Barack, and I endorse this message.
🙂
What is a Liberal?
Written on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 by Rod Bedard Jr.
When I was a kid I was in Scouting. You may know the deal…Cub Scout to Webelos to Boy Scout. We had an oath to take and a code to live by. We were being given the roots of what we would later understand as CHARACTER.
The Scout Oath is: On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
The Scout Code is: A Scout is: Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent.
It was in Scouting that I began to learn how to be independent and to take on problems and find solutions. The first steak I ever cooked by myself was during winter camping in NH when I was a Webelo. (by the way it stands for “We’ll be loyal” Scouts). I cooked it over an open fire on a forked stick. I ate it very rare and with some dirt and pine needles on it cause it kept falling off the stick. The steak was not good but I learned something, and the feeling of doing for myself was empowering. I don’t think a Liberal would make a good Scout. A Liberal couldn’t handle the oath or the code.
What are most Liberals to me?
L = Lazy
I = Intolerant
B = Bitter
E = Elitist
R = Racist
A = Angry
L = Leech
When I ask someone what makes them a “Liberal”. I never get concrete answers except for perhaps they’re for Roe V. Wade and are fine with gay marriage. It gets muddy after that. In my opinion Liberals in general are:
LAZY: People like the ObamaPhone lady from Cleveland (her family must be so proud)
who just want free stuff paid for by someone else, the Union guy who never tried to be anything more than a dude who puts lug nuts on wheels at the auto plant and thinks he should get paid like a doctor, the uninformed moron voter who is too lazy to educate himself. Laziness is big with most Liberals. “Earning it” comes in way below “getting it from someone else”.
INTOLERENT: Is there a more intolerant group than Liberals? They are intolerant to the point of violence. It could be how they use their flawed understanding of “Separation of Church and State” to attempt to remove religious symbols from our lives. It could be the way they call love to call us racists when we don’t agree with them. A current example is the babes in NY who printed in their “newspaper” the addresses of registered gun owners (they don’t like guns or gun folk). It could be the violence we saw at Occupy WS, during the Wisconsin Gubernatorial Re-Election, and at a pro-union protest in Michigan just days ago. The Left loves to call the TEA Party racist. Can I get ONE example please? And where’s the violence at TEA Party events?
BITTER: I rarely find a Conservative that’s bitter about others or bitter about their own condition. Real Conservatives do not blame others for any woes they may have. True Conservatives just aren’t wired that way. They would be embarrassed within themselves at the thought of blaming their situation on others. They aren’t victims. Liberals tend to be bitter towards all kinds of people both individually and in groups. It’s the rich. Even uber-wealthy Libs hack on the wealthy. It’s white folks. It’s corporations. The oil companies. The coal industry. Gun owners. Hunters. Home schoolers. The Faithful. The self-reliant. The traditional. The opposition.
ELITIST: Barack Obama. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Michael Bloomberg, George Soros, Van Jones…..just to name six. The same types are all around us. The education system and Teacher’s Union are flooded with them. These self-styled know-it-alls live to stick their upturned noses into every aspect of other people’s lives. Their drug of choice is control. The high that results is power. These are the Agenda 21 folks. Just this morning I saw where somewhere in Colorado there’s a proposal to force dog owner’s to put their dog in a life jacket when near water. Where do these weirdos come from? Bloomberg with his bans on salt and big sodas, who does he think he is? Now he claims he’ll spend much of his billions to take away guns. Go away Mayor and leave people alone. These folks and their supporters want to run your life and mine.
Racist: I don’t know many black people. I used to when I lived in Florida years ago but not where I live now. I also don’t know a Conservative who is racist. Not one. Like me, the Conservatives I know love it when anyone makes good of themselves. We don’t dislike, hate, fear or begrudge black people a thing, period. We judge by character, like Martin Luther King Jr. believed it should be. I see racism all the time on the Left. They are always pulling the “race card”. I believe that those constantly accusing racism are racist themselves. They do “protest too much” by my account. Racism ties in well with the bitterness and intolerance of most Liberals. Call it what you want but for Liberals to stay in power they MUST have and maintain a lower class that they can pander to and buy votes from with taxpayer money through “freebies”. Too many in that class are minorities and don’t see how they are being kept down.
ANGRY: Being intolerant and bitter tends to make one an angry person. Watching guys like Ed Shrilltz, Chris “tingle leg” Matthews, Lawrence O’Dumbell and Piers Stephan O’Meara Pughe-Morgan…..it’s nutty how angry these guys are. Why are Liberals so angry all the time? Maybe they thrive on a good crisis. Maybe they NEED to feel victimized by every little thing and so they’re always mad at somebody. They have their left wingnut man in the White House. He’s willing to write law with his own pen and has done so. They have the mainstream media in their pocket. Their Union pals are out bustin’ heads. The dock workers are threatening a strike that would hurt an already sad economy. Life is good! Lighten up.
LEECH: America’s insane debt has a lot to do with the amount of stuff given to those who’ve no right to it. Spending on both sides has buried us on several fronts but “entitlements” is a biggie. I’m not talking Social Security or Medicare. It’s the other stuff. Free or subsidized rent, heat, food, transportation, health care, tuition, phones, etc. We’ve got a lot of leeches sucking off the system and we taxpayers foot the bill. The leeches who don’t try to work instead of taking handouts will be majority Liberal. A true conservative is ashamed to take a handout and will avoid it if at all possible. A Liberal brags about how much he gets.
Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/articles/what-is-a-liberal/#ixzz2I3uvWa5D
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Nah, that’s more of a liberal or being too broke to be able to afford to pay for your own healthcare type of thing.
They love everything that’s free. You know how much free healthcare cost the government each year?
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So you want there to be people who don’t have access to health care so your lines are shorter? That’s evil. Socialized health care is not “free”- we have to make the decision to share resources with other human beings, which is the right thing to do.
You make fun of white liberals a lot on this blog, but it’s blacks and other marginalized groups (like the disabled) who are hurt most by our insurance system. White liberals are the only ones, among white people, who even give a damn. Studies show that the reason we don’t have socialized health care is because whites don’t want to pay for the well-being of minorities, who they perceive as undeserving. But we all pay taxes and we all should have equal access to medical care. The USA is the only major country that doesn’t guarantee this freedom to citizens. If you can’t work, you might as well die…so how can we not be considered barbarians to the rest of the world?
Yup love the free health care, free scripts, my foodstamps help, amd i like my free phone, nice cuntry, thank you. Now some of you white type morons might put me down for getting free stuff, but hey look at your cell phone bill, who is the moron, look at your co-pays from your great insurance, free is better, learn from your Captain!